History Shows Blair Was 💯 Right On Brexit & Farage! 

Not only about the EU but also how international trade works! Not like Boris Johnson and the other crooks they only know every think about being corrupt by laying and cheating!

He's also a great politician who knows how power in general works.

Who likes Blair? Don't forget he's the man who lied to Parliament (misfeasance in public office) in order to gets its support for an illegal war of aggression (war crime) in order to effect regime change (war crime). And because he knows how the EU works, he is determined that you should not know that it is a giant, dangerous, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

@@theresenydahl9531Blair lied to Parliament (misfeasance in public office) in order to gets its support for an illegal war of aggression (war crime) in order to effect regime change (war crime). And because he knows how the EU works, he is determined that you should not know that it is a giant, dangerous, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

Not you as for normal. As I can remember when you and your EU loving crying babies told us that if we left the EU we could be going in to a big black hole but we are still here. Then if we don't take up the euro we will go into the big black hole but we are still here.

Let's just dissolve this utterly pathetic institution. We are friends and don't need Guy 'Brad Pitt' Verhofstadt to stop us holding hands.

i am happy to work with the neighbours but no shared sovereignty

And how does that work EU wil never be America get over it

@@jamesmaxwell3933 You have no idea what the EU is.

Frenchie here..... we'd love you back. 🇪🇺

They won't rejoin , oh dear & have our £ trillions taxed !Hope Scotland becomes independent in the E.U then they will take back oil production that "We are a grandmother ' privatised My village of Gaianes had a €2 milllion E.U grant to renovate its major road , in Summer holidays no cars in the village so the children play safely & paint the streets !! Ì

Good God, we don't want him. We've got an idiot of our own!

Leaving an union that does not work is a wise decision, , its combined GDP figures are pathetic and getting worse. 20 years ago it had 44 corporations in the top 100 list, now there are less than 15, the union does not have a single worth while tech company. Whilst the developing world is about Innovation, entrepreneurship and technology, the EU is fixated on migration, regulation and diversity. Britain needs worthy partners if it wants to progress, the old mindset has to change.

Brexit hasn't been a failure, though it will take time to reverse much of the hollowing out. Adopting Net Zero during the Blair and Brown government accelerated the deindustrialization of the UK, handing China virtually all our manufacturing. By 2012 it was all gone. Ironically it was the EIB that gave loans to UK based companies to relocate abroad, while member of the EU. By 2016 looking around at all the wastelands that were once factories, we had nothing to lose by leaving.

did you even watch the video?

Brexit has made immigration worse, our financial situation is worse. Brexit prevents our companies from accessing the largest market in the world& only benefits Nigel’s friends friend’s with supermarkets who did not want the tight food standards & employment controls. Old Turkeys voted for Christmas roast dinner…. Idiots The far right conservatives showed us their true colours greed 🥵🥵😣😣😤

@@robertcaldwell2994 or the bone lazy expats. In sunnier locations wanting to have their cake and eat it for ever

First and foremost, Brexit was about taking back our complete sovereignty for the sake of the integrity of the United Kingdom. The EU was, and indeed has become even more so, a semi-autocratic body where its members have partially allowed their sovereignty to be dictated to by a quasi-elected committee for the sake of money and wealth. We have thankfully been freed from that by leaving.

That was an anti Brexit government and an anti Brexit EU that created that problem, not Brexit in it self. When commerce can start negotiating without politics things will improve naturally.

@johnnydarmech619 like the trade agreement with the United States? You clearly miss the point. Politics plays a huge role in trade agreements. Why is the EU obligated to play by your terms? Why would they do that?

@@johnnydarmech619 Don't be silly: international commerce does not exist without politics. Not even a millennium ago was there some kind of "natural" state of international trade! That trade is based on politics and ALWAYS has been - either wise or foolish. Since Brexit, British politics has been foolish, and its trouble in international trade reflects that 1:1. I hope Labour can correct at least some of that, anyway.

Your comment shows exactly the problem with Europeans... they are very casual about their sovereignty. The EU took control of each countries trade and used this to make each EU country obey rules that unelected officials created... crazy. Had each country kept control of their own trade they would be much better off. It is amazing how the Europeans have lost control of their destiny and they have hardly noticed. The EU is a globalist agenda in which selected officialdom dictate. The UK has restored its sovereignty but the Europeans have lost theirs and not even noticed.

I know what you meant, even though you phrased it badly. Quote: ‘Leaving Brexit was foolish’. You meant: Doing Brexit, leaving the EU was foolish.

"Leaving the EU" is the political error.

The illogic behind Brexit is based in hubris, as is the American right’s pursuit of trade wars and American exceptionalism.

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What does 100 mean?

wake you pal you're dribbling.

The union itself will collapse soon, its combined GDP figures are pathetic and getting worse. 20 years ago it had 44 corporations in the top 100 list, now there are less than 15, the union does not have a single worthwhile tech company. Whilst the developing world is about Innovation, entrepreneurship and technology, the EU is fixated on migration, regulation and diversity. Britain needs worthy partners if it wants to progress, the old mindset has to change.

It was a delusional mind that brought forth Brexit. Utter delusion

You are correct in what you say about this sadly things are going to get massively worse due to the tories government now actively trying to destroy the Irish state by moving tens of thousands of migrants into the south of Ireland via the north, the British government has decided to wipe out the the only nation on earth that the UK trades with which is hugely profitable to the people of the UK. Hollywood film writers could not make this up. Where is the British insanity going to end.

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Totally agree!

I can't believe Cameron is back.. the smell of fartz hits the room again

Oh not to mention that Brown left this country nearly bankrupt and sold off most of the gold reserves!!

Blair fked up on a LOT of issues and ended up giving advice to Eastern European dictators on how to cover up murders of their own striking citizens.

You have a vivid imagination. There was no requirement to get an EU passport - what for... Brexiteers did not want to live in the EU and travelling there is not restricted in any way.

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@@frze5645 You are factually incorrect. British passport holders now require work visas and tourist visas are restricted to 90 days in a 180 day period. That doesnt suit those that like to winter in warmer EU climates. 10% of Irish passports issued in 2022 were 1st time British applicants.

@@frze5645 the amount of applications for Irish passports increased the day after the referendum and huge Brexit supporters encouraged people to get them if they had criteria too. Including hardline Unionists like Ian Paisley Jnr (that noise you hear is his dad rolling in his grave). Farage, Johnson and Johnson Snr also applied for European passports. They may not be wanting to live abroad but they do like freedom of movement for them. Not for you though, chump.

You don't know what you are talking about bud , go and do some research

It's funny that people even listened to him in the first place.

But when people are asked to vote on "feelings " rather than intellectually, then here we are, a sad little island that is destroyed from within.

Oh suck it up and get on with your life rather than whinging, in fact just get off these shores if you don’t like it.

WOMD eh

If Parliament had not been full of traitors we would be well ahead now, you would be in prison not globetrotting filling y our pockets. You certainly do not represent the decent people of the U. Do shut up

I have paid tributes to Heseltine, John Major and David Lammy with similar videos. Today is Tony’s turn. Here’s heseltine’s History Shows Heseltine Has Been Consistent On Boris & #Brexit ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V8Llw8vJz0A.html

None of those ppl you mentioned listed a finger to stop ot happening, and arguably laid the paving blocks of brexit in the years leading toward it.

​@@DJWESG1huh? They were all warning. Were you not listening?

@@lizwebstersbf "Tony"? You're hilarious!

Michael Heseltine: "They are not going to allow us, by our own doing, to endanger their overall vision of a united Europe". Ken Clarke: "I look forward to the day when the Westminster Parliament is just a council chamber in Europe". Any more traitors you care to mention?

Agreed. And of course, that is prison bars, as opposed to the kind of bars that he already spends most of his time propping up.

Just like Bozo should.

What Lies exactly..! That we were giving some idiots in Brussells' £39 Billion a year' to go out and have nice Champagne Dinners on.!

All who believed what Nigel told them should wear a dunce cap.

Blinkers ?

Have you ever heard the story of the frog and the scorpion? Tories are the scorpion and it is in the nature of Tories to act as Tories.

@@michael1345 What a bigoted comment.

@@michael1345 bit like leopards then

David Cameron was his only rival, when Blair left the stage, Brown was never in the same league as Cameron. Cameron political mistake was to hold the referendum for Brexit and when the results wasnt a major clear cut divide for leave, he bailed this just turned into a self interest power struggle. One Tory clown after another Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak. Sunak made the mistake in hosting the general election early thinking the nation loves him.

Good then go and live inThe Eu

It was always about the European Tax Directive. Far too many sweetheart "non-dom" tax deals enjoyed by Newspaper barons in England.

The "Leave" campaign gained traction because unrestricted immigration from eastern Europe was undermining the workman's collective bargaining position and the tradesman's pricing power. Those adversely affected complained to the government and asked for protection. The government replied that it could do nothing, because the EU wouldn't let it. So the people being impoverished by immigration demanded that the government get Brussels to change its rules. David Cameron went to Brussels to ask the EU to change its rules on free movement of labour. He was told to go forth and multiply. This left those who care about the living standards of ordinary Britons no alternative, if the EU wouldn't change, then the UK would have to leave. Those who support the UK's membership of the EU are the people who don't care about anyone other than themselves. They don't give a damn if workmen are being impoverished, they are completely self centred.

@@sauermaischeyahoo7834 how has that worked out for farmers and fisherman?

@@sauermaischeyahoo7834your point is valid. And the only reason I would have voted leave is the control immigration. But alas to get a free trade deal with India, we have to give up a load of Visas for Indians want to work the Uk. This is what’s happened and immigration is higher than ever.

Your comment interests me. Being half French and half British must have torn you quite badly. I actually campaigned for Brexit. I would describe my political leanings as a Christian Democrat. I was a newspaper boy on the day Edward Heath took us into the EEC on 1st January 1973, and I vividly remember reading the front pages. I worked in Africa and Australia, returning to the UK in 1993 after my father died. I was shocked at the changes with our traditional trading partners, and shocked that the European Union Commissioners are not subject to the ballot box. That smacked to me of autocracy, benign it might be. They had powers to promulgate extension of the Acquis Communautaire. I did an A level in Government and Politics to gain greater clarity of our relationship with the European Union - as it was now called. I was pretty annoyed with the Money Creation and Society Debate which can be viewed on You Tube. Precisely half way of the 2 hours 30 minutes debate, where it describes how money is created. A bank official depresses a computer keyboard and a loan is created out of "thin air". My response to all of this is in a paper I wrote dubbed the "Table Mountain Housing Finance Model". It is available on line. go well!

People love skillful demagogues.

Because they are big dummies they believed him because they told them to

And even now they still choose to believe Farage, it is agonising to me. Are these people actually incapable of learning?

economics, trade, borders are all complicated things. Saying that it's the EU's fault or the immigrants is much easier so they believe the easy thing. People like Farage know this and they use it.

GOVE ALONE IS & WAS NOT A DIRTY ROTTEN SCROUNDREL !

Please allow me to tell you what has actually been going on. The EU drafted the European Constitution, blueprint for the federal European state (aka political union, one big country, aka "the United States of Europe"). It would change the whole nature of Europe, and as such, constitutional changes required a referendum and the agreement of the people. Blair chickened out of a referendum, but France and the Netherlands went ahead with one each and both electorates voted against the European Constitution. At that point it should have been in the shredder. Instead, and by their own admission, the EU simply rewrote it as the Lisbon Treaty and got all Prime Ministers, including Gordon Brown, to sign it on behalf of their people. It was deliberately reworded to avoid referendums! But it was still the blueprint for the federal state (including economic union, unification of the EU's armed forces etc.) and constitutional experts on the Tory back-benches cried 'Foul', because it still required a referendum. To shut them up (and under pressure from UKIP) Cameron called the referendum in January 2013, but only during the course of the next Parliament, and only should he secure an overall majority, in the hope that he might not have to go through with it. He won the overall majority, was forced to hold it, campaigned for Remain and lost. The EU meanwhile continues to push towards the creation of one big country. This should have been explained to the British electorate in 2016, but it was not explained, proving beyond doubt that the EU is a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

@@SJG-nr8uj You would fit invery well with the MAGA crowd in USA. They are also deluded beyond hope and actually believe the crap they hear and what they spew out in congress and social media platforms.

You are so wrong.

@@fortuner123 "You are so wrong." Oh really? Given that the damage that it has done to our economy is now readily and obviously apparent, please explain how you expect us to benefit from putting trade barriers in between ourselves and our biggest customers?

But the brexiters had had enough of experts .....

Tony Blair led the UK into national bankrupcy. A lot of people voted Brexit just because the leadership types didn't want them to.

yeah right you mean like Iraq

​@@tonyb9735yeah because we should always do what experts tell us without question😂 because they always get it right don't they

He's a war criminal.

Obviously I speak Spanish & my friends are appalled at what is happening there now , we care for each other here ,wonderful free health system .All polite & helpful !

In Spain now & with 17 million Britons living abroad were denied our rightful vote re Brexit ,tied via gov email gives me request denied !

Little did you know you'd elect a war criminal.

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Oh come on. Gordon Brown was literally the worst chancellor this country's ever had. Blair was the one who threw open the doors of mass migration and set the stage for this entire mess. Both parties are absolutely useless.

He cares solely about the money going into his pockets for his collusion nobody else.

Like free internet?????

@@damianbutterworth2434 exactly. A kind of voodoo fiscal WiFi on a red bus.

@@genghisthegreat2034 Labour will import more voodoo. Might ship them in from Haiti. :)

FARAGE IS YET ANOTHER RAGING NARCISSIST- GADFLY- BARFLY-TALL TALE TELLER CONVINCING ONLY THE UNEDUCATED- GULLIBLE-STUPID....🎉

Please allow me to tell you what has actually been going on. The EU drafted the European Constitution, blueprint for the federal European state (aka political union, one big country, aka "the United States of Europe"). It would change the whole nature of Europe, and as such, constitutional changes required a referendum and the agreement of the people. Blair chickened out of a referendum, but France and the Netherlands went ahead with one each and both electorates voted against the European Constitution. At that point it should have been in the shredder. Instead, and by their own admission, the EU simply rewrote it as the Lisbon Treaty and got all Prime Ministers, including Gordon Brown, to sign it on behalf of their people. It was deliberately reworded to avoid referendums! But it was still the blueprint for the federal state (including economic union, unification of the EU's armed forces etc.) and constitutional experts on the Tory back-benches cried 'Foul', because it still required a referendum. To shut them up (and under pressure from UKIP) Cameron called the referendum in January 2013, but only during the course of the next Parliament, and only should he secure an overall majority, in the hope that he might not have to go through with it. He won the overall majority, was forced to hold it, campaigned for Remain and lost. The EU meanwhile continues to push towards the creation of one big country. This should have been explained to the British electorate in 2016, but it was not explained, proving beyond doubt that the EU is a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

@@SJG-nr8uj😂 oh dear.

@@serinadelmar60121. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.

@@SJG-nr8uj Yes, it’s a scam that stopped wars in Europe and idiotic border disputes. And watch, the European countries that aren’t in EU or not associated with EU are Putin’s pets (while Putin is making his own country a colony of China). And yes, U.K. is now priestly a bantustan at the North Sea. Nothing to reconcile with.

@@SJG-nr8uj what a lod of bullocks.

Are the Tories Brittain's version of Republicans?

@@geraldbroadnax2992 Yes

Blair created Brexit because when all the Factorys and economy of local towns was destroyed it was after 1997 more rapidly than ever and in the worst way, Shapland & Petter architectural doorset manufacturers gone in 1999 they had at one point 800 people working for them, Clarks shoe factory gone in 2003 over 500 people worked there and Brannam Pottery gone in 2004 that had afew hundred working there, Sussmans and Baidware all these Textiles factorys left and this was in my town, then Tescos and ASDA replaced some low level jobs, this is why we never recovered after 2008, Blair should of done his job and acted but as Textile and manufacturing left my town this was when Labour was in power, of course much of this happened before but Blair could of turned this around putting in place more high tech manufacturing industries to create wealth, as the local economy was destroyed nothing much replaced it, anyone who blames Brexit is a low IQ moron who knows nothing about the UK and how Labour created a poor country, not understanding that London and services industry with people shopping are not how the country should be run base on GDP if the shops are selling things more than the last quarter

TOTALLY INTO BEING DIRTY ROTTEN SCROUNDELS - TOTAL AIM : TO DRIVE UP THEIR SHARE OF THE NATIONAL PIE . HUGE SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT ARISIG FROM THE ENTITLEMENT ELITISM CULTURE OF MOST FEE PAYING SCHOOLS.

So which part of our 47 years in the EU do you blame for any of your examples? The truth is, Britain would have been much better had it never joined the EU.... prior to us joining we were a prosperous nation - then the investment funds were switched off to deliberately create the circumstance to justify us joining... it was a trap create and driven by MP's who were paid to talk Britain down and talk the EU up.

The problem is that Labour is not much better at the moment, only a similar alternative. Bring Blair back if you want change.

@@theresenydahl9531 I have to agree. I think Labour are sadly portrayed as the saviours that will rescue the UK. Well I'd prefer to live under them than the Tories but Labour are clearly not actively promoting undoing brexit.

Bu Starmer is a wee timorous beastie and is afraid of scaring the voters. People are so fed up with the tories that they would go with a more radical agenda, but he is...a wee timorous beastie.

​​@@NickAskew I think they are scared that if they start talking about undoing brexit, rejoining the EU they will lose votes. And if the Labour Party doesn't win the election outright they can't do anything. Sadly I still hear a lot of people blaming our problems on immigration, too many people coming to the UK. The state of the NHS and roads etc is apparently down to immigration not brexit & the tories policies since 2010 🙄

@@NickAskew It cannot be undone. UK is a third country in the eyes of EU. It has left the union in 2020. If you by "undoing brexit " mean some closer relations with EU UK already has the TCA wich is as good a trade deal a third counry can get. There is no more room to wiggle in any concessions from EU in that nor is there any will in EU to create any precedents for other third countries. In 2025 brexit will more or less be done from the perspective of EU, when the Euroclearing leaves London for good.

Cheers. You won as a 2016 Brexit voter. And we are all the much poorer for it. But I'm open minded that it may all come good, in about 50 years

@@FixUp.LookSharp And here's what you would have won. 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.

oh dear tell that to the people who lost loved ones in Iraq over a lie

@@FixUp.LookSharp The EU is heading straight for its own self-destruction. The only reason you don't know this is because you have never paid attention. There are four possible ways in which the European Union could collapse, all of which the EU is heading straight for, due to its own arrogance and megalomaniac stupidity: 1. Revolt by its member states' politicians, for example against fixed migrant quotas. Poland, Hungary and the Netherlands have already told the EU to get stuffed on this issue. 2. Revolt by its member states' peoples, against the imposition of a federal government they can never vote into or out of office. There is absolutely no democratic mandate for this, but the EU wants economic union, the final stepping stone before political union, complete by 2027. This could lead to rioting, violence and wars of independence. 3. War with Russia. Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military defence of a member state under attack. And the EU wants Ukraine in by 2030. 4. The Islamification of Europe, orchestrated by the European Union (per the Euro-Mediterranean Project, in effect since 2010). These are all coming straight down the track, and one or more of these will cause the demise of the EU within the next few years. The EU is a dead man walking.

@@MrPatch25 yes indeed. A very small % compared to the poverty and mental health deaths due to Tory/thief policies of the past 14 years. But every wrongful death is wrong

And the Con Pms since Blair.

Blair has no arguments in favour of the EU that are worth listening to. Nobody has.

The more I've listened to farage the less I'm impressed with him.

​@@SJG-nr8ujThe thing is Sj , that most people just see Brexit as a massive disappointment.

​@@SJG-nr8ujyou are Russian troll

Farage is a giant of British, European and global politics. Blair is a war criminal and a liar who sold his country out.

The UK paid approx. 11BN a year on membership of the EU.

​​@@marinusvoscloser to 8bn after rebates etc. about 150m per week.

From the Treasury's own figures, the UK paid in £137 million per week, and what we got out was worth £2,600 per week.

@@davesy6969 but the UK doesn't now have to follow those pesky EU regulations..... Ohhhh wait, it does 🤦‍♂️

With rebates the amount the UK paid in per year was around 10 billion and that gave so much and most of all it it meant seamless borderless full free trade in in both goods and services in the worlds largest single market. Even with a full fit for purpose comprehensive FTA the best that a third party nation can have with the EU is as smooth as possible trade in goods only (not services) but that trade in goods is not seamless and borderless as that’s only for members. The EU-UK TCA is not even close to a comprehensive FTA.

Maybe feeling the steel while watching the EU prosper will change the UK.

The UK has proven itself to be a failed project controlled by aristocratic incompetents. The best future for people on the British Isles would be to put the imperial gremlin to bed and have separate states - a United Republic of Ireland, Republic of Scotland, Republic of Wales and Republic of England, all constituent members in a democratic and strong European Federation with a single market, guaranteed rights for all citizens, and full free movement within, plus a federal military force and independent nuclear umbrella covering every member state. Then, we would never be pushed around by large nations economically, nor threatened with invasion from Russia. Plus we would never have to rely on an unreliable USA.

Too late for me unfortunately

How long will it take these under 35's to get their hands on the levers of power? What makes you think in 20/30 years time the EU will want a bitter weak sad old UK back in?

Not all older people. I’m glad to see things as the young do.

The reason is simple. Farage knows that the EU is a giant, dangerous, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam. Increasingly, so does the British electorate too, proving that Farage was right all along.

People do not have the headspace to fact check or reflect. They like simple solutions that they are able to understand...even if they make no sense. I seem to contradcit myself so I will explain: people are able to understand the concept of low pay. People have economic problems. There are immigrants. The UK used to be rich and have an empire. All these things are familiar. Linking them makes no sense, but it does not matter: it is all part of a familiar universe so a lot of people go with it.

Because just like his sidekick Donald Trump, he is a bull-shitter isn't he!.

Yeah you are right we should have been ruled by Brussels because they would rule better than English politicians

@@sarahneedle8308we were never ruled by Brussels, that was just another one of the many lies.

I'm so sorry.

Yes as a Brit seeing him and Widdicombe waving those little Union Jacks at the end was the height of embarrassment.

Only a tiny group of people in the UK would disagree.

​@@thetruth9210 Half! Are you using 2016 numbers?

@@jackkruese4258 not half as embarrassing as being part of that pile of shit EU, that's for sure.

@@SlamSector it doesn't matter if it's half, or the whole fucking lot, we're out thank fuck, never to return hopefully,

You flatter yourself.

@@fortuner123 Perhaps; then again I am a physicist who worked on various EU research projects, including as Lead Coordinator on one, so perhaps not. Blair is right, Brexit was an act of stupidity.

Ok Imagine that you weren’t so intelligent. Imagine that you were a manual worker. Your wages have been held back for a decade because of cheap imported labour. These people haven’t voted remain to suit the likes of you. They voted for their own priorities. Personally I voted leave because I did not want to be a member of the United States of Europe. Ever greater union chills me to the bone.

@@lesleywillis6177 I appreciate this thoughtful reply; though it won't surprise you to be told I disagree. Looking at information online concerning the UK economy, I gather that significant damage to our country has resulted, and no advantage has accrued to manual workers, while a bunch of back-benchers has been able to form a government, bankers have had their bonuses uncapped and the rich, who I suspect viewed proposed EU action on tax avoidance with consternation, can relax. Does there seem to be a connection between these groups and those who campaigned for brexit. Many small to medium sized businesses now have problems trading with Europe. Could there have been a different brexit? Perhaps. Oh and of course, EU support for research, and the UK's lack of it, might colour my views - the R&D laboratory where I worked (I retired over ten years ago) is now gone. My experience of working on EU projects was such that I was deeply impressed by my European colleagues and the system of research projects, and by the EU policy of support for poor areas. We have seen that the government we have talks of "levelling up" but it is just empty promises. I would love the UK to be part of a United States of Europe.

@@lesleywillis6177 in regards to you his point still applies, the young and inteligent voted remain.

And some of the old. I was 80 at the time and many of my friends of a similar age were equally appalled by the result. Don’t run downall us oldies

Well that's the EU for you! Making the bad worse.

"When Tony Blair was in power" He ALSO eviscerated a constitution it had taken centuries to create, lied to Parliament (for which he should have resigned) over WMD (but who cares about maimed Iraqi kids, eh?), opened the floodgates to a tidal wave of Third World riff-raff (WHAT a benefit to the property market and an already-overstretched NHS!), and fractured the unity of the United Kingdom. Some 'statesman'. As for: " London being effectively the financial capital of the World" It still is! "member of a strong NATO" Now a member of an even stronger NATO. Your point here? "sat in the G8" So what? Just another globalist talking-shop, and about as much use as all the others (WHO, UNO, World Bank, IMF, IPCC etc etc etc). God, but you're naïve: do you know ANYTHING about the REAL world of Geopolitics (as opposed to the PR version fed to you via the MSM)? "collapsing public services" What - if true - has THAT to do with the EU or Brexit? "the Commonwealth is no longer relevant" Really? Then it's high time we mended fences - having kicked the Old Commonwealth in the teeth when, at the behest of crypto-Globalist (and toilet-trader) Heath, we were deceived into joining this wonderful new Free Trade area called the _Common Market_ . The fact that it was about eventual POLITICAL union was essentially hidden from the British Public. "No essential loss of sovereignty', Heath assured us - and over thirty years later, over 80% of OUR laws were being made for us by the Commission (and rubber-stamped by the phony, fig-leaf (LMFAO) 'European Parliament'). If you really want to get some idea of the colossal mendacity of the European Project, you should get yourself a copy of the late Christopher Booker's (and Richard North's) _Castle of Lies_ . You should but you won't, of course. "a ‘special relationship’ with the USA." As far as the American PEOPLE are concerned, that's still the case. And America needs US as much as we need it. Biden's coldness towards us (not shared by Trump) derives from both his misplaced Fenian angst, and his Globalist puppet-masters within the Democratic Party: remember when Big Ears Obama presumed to tell US how to vote? Now why do you think that was? Answer: because it upset the plans of his Globalist Masters. The European Project WAS a CIA-funded, ACUE-backed project of Anglo-American Establishment, after all; it was THEIR baby. But you already knew that - didn't you? "The UK decline in just 20 years is astounding" Well, since Brexit only _effectively_ happened a mere SIX years ago - why so impatient? Some short-term turbulence was expected (even without the spiteful manoeuvrings of the EU, the absurd Theresa May, and our Quisling civil service). As to your twenty-year perspective, you must therefore have been an ardent admirer of Margaret Thatcher's - the lady who saved our nation from the permanent ruination threatened by the maniacal state socialism of the Labour party? Assuming you were old enough to vote in 1979, that is! Sadly, even she only saw through the European Project when it was too late. Plainly, you haven't yet reached _that_ level of Euro-Enlightenment. Sweet dreams!

5 words and 2 things sunk New Labour 2008 Financial Crash, Iraq War. Also in the end Labours refusal to reform Thatchers consensus on economic policy cost us more in the long in the end. We were very exposed to the crash and it damaged us and showed us our eonomic model was toast. Then austerity came along and stopped any recovery.

Not to mention Gordon Brown sold of most of the gold which made Britain more vulnerable after the crash.

Man was right about a lot in his political career, got Iraq wrong obviously but been the smartest British politician in over 30 years!

although it ended in disaster in many ways, i entirely sympathise with his decision to join the americans in liberating iraq from the most monstrous dictatorship. the idea that it was this mendacious illegal attack is grossly simplistic.millions of Iraqis are grateful for the intervention, and millions more who despise it.

@@CG-or1re People also keep overlooking that Iraq annexed Kuwait, and the US and UK liberated that country, not to mention creating conditions where the Kurds could have some slice of full autonomy, relatively free from Saddan's constant atrocities.

He probably did that to maintain the UK's alliance with the United States. It was in British interests. Sucks for Iraq though.

He or any British Prime Minister has to obey United States's directions. And United States has to obey to Isreal's directions. UK can't say to US or Isreal that they will not join in their abhorrent wars!!

He tried to become German with the help of his brother-in-law 4 years ago, all quietly of course but he was found out by a German journalist.

He tried to get a german residence permit, but was refused. Obviously, he doesnt reside in Germany.

There brains must have come from their mother!

@@paulbird3235God knows where your spelling came from.

Everyone of us born here in the UK is European.

Gordon Brown forced our departure from the European Union, because neither he nor Blair were man enough to stand up to the EU on the European Constitution/Lisbon Treaty.

It wasn’t the Tories that gave us Brexit it was the people.

​@@davidtaylor4815the Shitties, oops sorry the Tories, gave a large bunch of semi illiterate xenophobes an opportunity to f*** the whole country over cos they didn't (and still don't) like furriners ....and surprise suprise, they took it in both hands, lied like legends and got their way.

Are you starving pal? Do you know anyone who is? This country ruled itself quite well for 1000 years without being told what to do by people we either can't elect or de-select. My Father went up the D Day beaches to uphold that principle!

War monger, mass murderer is not a desirable trait

Even if he does there is no way that the EU would agree to it. The UK will serve as an example what happens to a country if it decides to leave the EU.

What does that tell you then about the EU. Who wants to be ruled by non elected dictators . What's wrong with you folk !! listening to Bliar.

Because he is a puppet to brexiters. We all know that deep down he prefers us to be in the single market - he campaigned for a second referendum as Labour Party chancer, anyway. He's just playing politics and being weak. Not to mention he is wishy washy.

Because if he reserves it, there are obligations this time, including ditching the £ pound and starting using €euro. Chnage immigration system and enter the schengen zone and visa etc etc

@@bonnieyingliu because Starmer is a puppet

Please allow me to tell you what has actually been going on. The EU drafted the European Constitution, blueprint for the federal European state (aka political union, one big country, aka "the United States of Europe"). It would change the whole nature of Europe, and as such, constitutional changes required a referendum and the agreement of the people. Blair chickened out of a referendum, but France and the Netherlands went ahead with one each and both electorates voted against the European Constitution. At that point it should have been in the shredder. Instead, and by their own admission, the EU simply rewrote it as the Lisbon Treaty and got all Prime Ministers, including Gordon Brown, to sign it on behalf of their people. It was deliberately reworded to avoid referendums! But it was still the blueprint for the federal state (including economic union, unification of the EU's armed forces etc.) and constitutional experts on the Tory back-benches cried 'Foul', because it still required a referendum. To shut them up (and under pressure from UKIP) Cameron called the referendum in January 2013, but only during the course of the next Parliament, and only should he secure an overall majority, in the hope that he might not have to go through with it. He won the overall majority, was forced to hold it, campaigned for Remain and lost. The EU meanwhile continues to push towards the creation of one big country. This should have been explained to the British electorate in 2016, but it was not explained, proving beyond doubt that the EU is a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

​@@SJG-nr8ujPlease allow me to tell you that you are completely wrong and don't know what you are talking about. When did you become such an expert on the EU and what do the European people think? The Swedes, Finn's, Dane's are proud of their identities, languages and heritages and would never allow themselves to be erased. They are happy to be a part of the EU and be working together side by side with the rest of Europe.

@@jjnen3118 Please allow the European Union to tell you what you should already know. 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.

@@SJG-nr8uj i‘m really sorry for your complete misunderstanding of the EU/Europe Situation. Your are a victim of tory and brexiteer propaganda. We are better off now than ever …. I‘m a severly handicapped pensionier but i don’t have to fear for the Future auf my Kids👍🎉🤓

@@Sat-Man-Alpha You people are hilarious! Will you please stop lying through your teeth, because we've had enough of it. You did enough of that in 2016 - we've seen through it now. I report on the EU's treaties, documents and declarations, as follows: 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). Generally speaking, you Germans are not surprised by the thought of a federal European state and are actually looking forward to it. Why? Because, according to Helmut Kohl: "The future will belong to the Germans when we build the house of Europe." So stop the ridiculous lying.

Absolutely correct, the suppression of semi and skilled labour rates was the reason so many Labour voters went for Brexit. Wonder if Blair and Brown have any regrets in that regard?

Great point.

Absolutely. My own parents were not extremists of any kind - sceptical Labour voters, with a deep distrust of both Tories and trade unions. And yet, their English exceptionalism was blindingly obvious, even to me as a child. That attitude doesn't die with one generation.

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So the UK wants to trade with the rest of the world and wants equal immigration from the rest of the world, while the EU refers to any country outside its borders as a third country and tarrifs them blind, and the English has the toxic view of the rest of the world? Wow.

So the UK wants more world trade and even immigration from around the world, while the EU calls anyone outside its border a third country and tarrifs them into oblivion, and were the ones with a toxic view of the rest of the world? Wow.

Trade deals are much easier with countries you are geographically close to.

@@cainneachdaugherty7172 How come our homes are full of Chinese stuff then? Its the other side of the world. Not geographically close at all. Its not like China and us have a common language either. The US has stabbed its most loyal vassal state in the back

I agree. Corbyn was the handmaiden of Brexit.

As a left-leaning elderlyBriton I feel exactly the same and desperately unhappy for my country

"almost" ... but not actually.

And now he is out of the party. He helped BoJo win the last election.

not a chance.

I think I will be right, everyone makes mistakes, it’s just a small pill to swallow.

Join labour for europe

Britain should not be allowed to rejoin!!!!!!!

Why another vote? Brexit happened, nothing can be done to change that.

​@@ab-ym3bf what might make sense eventually (not now) is a vote to commit to a programme of change that would eventually make the UK eligible.

Starmer is a brexiteer

That's not going to change

The key thing missing and which prevents the UK from "rejoining the Single Market" is a little thing called "legality". A third country cannot unilaterally subject itself to the court which administers that market (first country) or to a court sharing jurisprudence with that court (second country). You are now, from a legal perspective as viewed from within the bloc, a third country and there is no legal mechanism beyond the EU obligingly scrapping the Rome, Maastricht and Lisbon treaties in favour of one that allows completely unaccountable outsiders to participate within its own institutions which can ever allow you to "rejoin" as long as you remain a third country. The sooner people in the UK finally get to understand international law, why it exists, how it applies to them and therefore what reality actually looks like, the sooner that effort there can properly be employed in pursuing realistic goals, and not just chasing more of the self-serving fantastical delusions that got you all into this mess in the first place.

When tptb stop showing old ww2 films on telly cos the target audience are DEAD.......then we will be ready to apply.

@@iandennis7836 whatever sick minds you include in the first person plural here, count all decent people out

​@@SonOfVikingonly Remainistas dont get it

How about taking the UK into a war with his american buddie.

Really REALLY don't hold your breath......when, and only when those old farting xenophobes are dead will we see change.

Didn't he say something about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!?😂

Are you insane, or merely evil?

@@edthompson9337 in this video clip..re.brexit

You are so wrong.

@@fortuner123 you are wrong, not me...one day people as you will understand

Leave the European Union*. We are still very much part of Europe.

Well you are wrong because Europe is a geographical entity. EU is a union of European countries and UK, as an European country, was once a member of EU.

What! You want another War that will kill a MILLION people......That's SICK!

Blair's only mistake was being a lapdog to the US & unfortunately we haven't yet learnt from that mistake & are continuing to do whatever is in the US interests instead of our own.

Well, he is the ONLY British leader whose actions cost the lives of 100,000 innocent Iraqis, so after taking that into consideration where would you put him?

@@user-ol6rd7pl5t Bush was Blair's lapdog just as much as the other way round. The Americans were eternally grateful for Blair's phoney dossiers, used to hoodwink the public, the press, Parliament and the world.

Iraq was awesome fun. The only tragedy is that we left!

@@robertbones326 Not that fun for the more than 300 UK soldiers that died and the more than 3500 UK soldiers that were wounded.

I refuse to become a British citizen because having a British passport would not help me. I can do everything I need with an American passport and a residency permit. Before Brexit I would have considered citizenship because I want to travel in the EU. I wish you and your children happiness wherever you live.

Good riddance.

Do they owe nothing to U.K.? Why then one would write here? 🤔

You are welcome to Ireland and the EU, sadly the British government is now trying to destroy the island of Ireland by moving tens of thousands of migrants into the south of Ireland from the north, the tories have pinned all on the collapse of Ireland in order to prove that the EU is finished. Ireland may well be destroyed by the British government but the EU will take its revenge on the UK for this. A very bad era in European politics has begun, caused by the British government, they have sowed the seeds of the destruction of the the British Isles. Sunack will have done the damage before the people of the UK can get rid of him.

Good riddance.

So you voted leave then did you?

Farage creamed him.

You neglect to mention the number one clown and liar that became pm

Farage hasn't taken us into a totally un-ethical war where 100s of thousands of people have died!!!! First and foremost, Brexit was about taking back our complete sovereignty for the sake of the integrity of the United Kingdom. The EU was, and indeed has become even more so, a semi-autocratic body where its members have partially allowed their sovereignty to be dictated to by a quasi-elected committee for the sake of money and wealth. We have thankfully been freed from that by leaving.

I agree - Farage talks truth to power... Blair told lies on behalf of power - he took the money to do their bidding.

​@@frze5645Blair had an excellent understanding of how to run a country as complex as the U K. Farage has little knowledge but a giant ego.

I cannot stand listening to liebour hype..from him ... Farage is far superior.

The problem with the UK is empire mentality. They don't understand that the world has moved on.

You certainly are.