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History Summarized: The Baghdad House of Wisdom 

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@oceanview5110
@oceanview5110 10 месяцев назад
“Here’s all the wisdom. In a house! The Baghdad house of wisdom!” - Bill Wurtz
@yougosquishnow
@yougosquishnow 10 месяцев назад
Hahahaha came to the comments to say the same thing.
@MultiDonald95
@MultiDonald95 10 месяцев назад
"Some of it is water. Fuck it, most of it is water"
@andrewwilliams8951
@andrewwilliams8951 10 месяцев назад
Gawd damnit, beat me to the punch.
@Mance1680
@Mance1680 10 месяцев назад
"Just in time for the ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE!"
@adelinaiftime3152
@adelinaiftime3152 10 месяцев назад
"and now there's business, money, writing, laws, power" ✨️ *SOCIETY* ✨️
@pridelander06
@pridelander06 10 месяцев назад
"Houses alone don't create wisdom, people do" OSP House of Wisdom always has great codas.
@RavenWolffe77
@RavenWolffe77 10 месяцев назад
"Give readings or get beatings" is also a good one from this episode.
@ryanpiotr1929
@ryanpiotr1929 10 месяцев назад
Al-Khwarizmi not only invented algebra, his book "Al-Khwarizmi on the Indian number system" was translated and transliterated as "Algoritmi de numero Indorum", introducing decimal numbers and the number zero to Europe and resulting in "algorithm" becoming a word. Yes, all algorithms are essentially named after him.
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
All algorithm leads back to Al-Khwarizmi.
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban 10 месяцев назад
That's got to be the crowning achievement of a scholar's career...but I'll bet it annoyed him that they kept spelling his name wrong.
@abdallahelsharkawy3701
@abdallahelsharkawy3701 10 месяцев назад
​@@Ami-jc2oothey're literally called Khwarizmat in arabic
@VivaLaDnDLogs
@VivaLaDnDLogs 10 месяцев назад
Holy shit....
@helix2331
@helix2331 10 месяцев назад
i would kill for my name or something i did to be THAT influential actually i need to pick my words better. it would have to be something good.
@nolanhokanson8203
@nolanhokanson8203 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes, from the legendary studio that brought you the Great Library of Alexandria comes the second lost library of ancient times. If you thought that the Great Library was great, then you'll love watching the House of Wisdom become just as cool, only to fall as well. Truly, you won't want to miss this new iteration in everyone's favorite genre: history repeating itself. The House of Wisdom, coming to ancient theaters near you.
@Gailim
@Gailim 10 месяцев назад
The second? *Sad Ashurbanipal noises*
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
The third then?
@idiot528
@idiot528 10 месяцев назад
@@Ami-jc2oo Sad my bookshelf getting sold off because we need money noises
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 10 месяцев назад
@@Ami-jc2oo Could be the Library of Congress.
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
@@Toonrick12 The should be forth? And third is the house of wisdom?
@Seagull_House
@Seagull_House 10 месяцев назад
as a native of the arabic speaking nation of egypt, i must again commend you for putting in the effort to ACTUALLY write the arabic script properly. you'd be surprised how often i'd find it written disjointed, backwards, or even both AT ONCE
@OverlySarcasticProductions
@OverlySarcasticProductions 10 месяцев назад
I've made that very mistake before. When I didn't know what I was looking at, I just hit copy and paste thinking it was fine, but everything was written disjointed and backwards. Since then I've learned to screenshot the text, so my Photoshop text processor doesn't have an opportunity to screw it up! -B
@Seagull_House
@Seagull_House 10 месяцев назад
@@OverlySarcasticProductions hell yes! i love when ppl learn from their mistakes, and i also love being able to actually read the arabic names written, thank you
@giladmachluf3663
@giladmachluf3663 10 месяцев назад
As a Hebrew speaker, I can say that I have seen a lot of Hebrew text just written backwards and it’s annoying. I imagine being used to how Arabic letters are connected would make it even more annoying to read.
@Seagull_House
@Seagull_House 10 месяцев назад
@@giladmachluf3663 yea, if the letters are disconnected, it's straight up just gibberish: i've heard hebrew also has distinct forms for letters in different parts of the word (disjointed, at the start of a word, middle of the word, and end of a word), and seeing a jumble of disjointed forms is also not helpful i've also seen some using the correct forms, but leaving an unconnected gap between each, which i also don't like very much
@hayatbasheer-ox8zf
@hayatbasheer-ox8zf 5 месяцев назад
WHAT
@YoussefDaanBenAmor
@YoussefDaanBenAmor 10 месяцев назад
How much Muslim scholars and dynasties contributed to modern art philosophy mathematics cartography is insane and fascinating! Unfortunately for much to be lost since the beginning of the early modern age.
@aziouss2863
@aziouss2863 10 месяцев назад
Islam is the last big thing holding the people of that region back. So much time and IQ wasted on that... I mean it had it's time when the world was much more savage. But the fact that i was indoctrinated into a cult in the 20th century is still mind-boggling.
@yaboy821
@yaboy821 10 месяцев назад
@@aziouss2863 you could say the same for Christianity
@Robb3636
@Robb3636 10 месяцев назад
@@yaboy821 They probably would, people often do!
@sytritewarum5720
@sytritewarum5720 10 месяцев назад
​@@Robb3636 Because it is not inaccurate...
@ravengrey6874
@ravengrey6874 10 месяцев назад
@@aziouss2863 I don’t think that Islam itself is the issue. The turmoil currently afflicting the Middle East is an effect of decisions and events that occurred throughout the 20th century. Many of the “problems” people see in Islam have roots in policies set by the waning Ottoman Empire. Economic woes in the region stem from national economies based on a mix of agarian pastoralism and singular resource extraction, mainly hydrocarbons, rather than the broader manufacturing industrial base and trade economies developed in the west.
@lanagomisc.6005
@lanagomisc.6005 10 месяцев назад
The coolest part of this is the idea that information and knowledge was shared around instead of concentrated in one place like the Library of Alexandria. Having to travel to one place in the world to get a copy of a scroll you wanted is very impractical. Instead, having resources among the mosques and libraries in a city is the smarter move. It's like people saw what happened in Alexandria, and after they were done mourning the great loss, decided that should never happen again at that scale.
@thongdo9809
@thongdo9809 10 месяцев назад
People saw the library become irrelevant as more center of learning started to appear? Because the fires didn't really contribute much to the destruction of the library.
@miramosa7768
@miramosa7768 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, at a time of manual by-hand copying, most written knowledge just has to be centralized to some extent because of the immense manhours required to copy them, especially if translations were also needed. That being said, a network even across a single city is much more robust and much less prone to monopolization than a single building.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 10 месяцев назад
Guess what? What you're describing is exactly the modus operandi of the Great Library of Alexandria XD First, we're not even sure it was one building. It probably shifted through the centuries, but we know of several temples (yeah the Libary was a temple ˆˆ) that would have been refered to as the Great Library at the same time. Second, Alexandria was far from the only library of the greek-roman world, even if it was the biggest, and didn't aimed to preserve all the knowledge of the world without sharing them, in fact one of the main occupation of the librarians would have been to copy scrolls, to preserve them of course, but most importantly to export them. Remember when Caesar burned the Library? He was besieged in the harbour, why would the Library be there? Because he didn't burned the Library itself, he burned a storehouse containting hundreds of scrolls copied and reay to be exported to other center of knowledge ˆˆ Oh and people probably didn't mourned the Great Library of Alexandria. Because contrary to Bagdad who went with a catastrophic invasion, the most likely scenario for the end of the Great Library is simply that it had been so forgotten and mismanaged that everyone stopped using it. It just slowly fade out of memory, just as Alexandria itself, which was just a shadow of itself by the end of Antiquity....
@Agarwaen00
@Agarwaen00 10 месяцев назад
And we must add the contribution of the free movement of people around the large Muslim world, from what ius now Portugal to India scholars could move and share and debate their ideas. No wonder so many advancements were made in that era.
@razanyoussef8760
@razanyoussef8760 10 месяцев назад
As an arab the “Habibi, start building shelves!” Caught me off guard lmaooo. I appreciate the details that went into this vid!
@thatkidwiththehoodie
@thatkidwiththehoodie 10 месяцев назад
Ah man, I’ve been working on the same idea of “study as a form of worship” for a while now! Raised Catholic, so it felt right to me! I never understood why God would give us such a wide, wild, DENSE world to live in and not want us to explore it. What greater worship of the Big Guy Upstairs than dedicating one’s life to admiring His craft?
@Gilamath.
@Gilamath. 10 месяцев назад
There are a whole lot of Catholic priests who agree with you. I got to talk with some folks doing really fascinating astronomical research in Italy and Vatican City some years ago, and it's fascinating to see just how much emphasis there is on cross-cultural scientific study. Jesuits are lovers of knowledge
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 10 месяцев назад
The man who first discovered the Big Bang was a catholic priest, and I know that one jesuit priest often came up in french anthropology ˆˆ The vision of a Church being profundly anti-science is a modern one, people often point to Galileo, but his main patron was the Pope itself XD
@francesleones4973
@francesleones4973 10 месяцев назад
Well said!
@Ilikecatsismychannelname
@Ilikecatsismychannelname 10 месяцев назад
My Lutheran parents who are both retired pastors would agree with you. I am a hyper-curious, insatiable, mega bookworm for a reason thanks to them. I also learned far more from just parking by bum in a library and reading obsessively than I ever have in a classroom. Mostly because grew up in small towns with teachers who knew the bare minimum about the subject they taught at best. If I wanted to answer the eternally burning questions of 'Why, Where, When, and How' bursting from the core of my soul then I had only the library - usually the bit with the encyclopedias - to turn to for satisfaction. Because internet search engines were in their infancy back then and Google wasn't an option. On the one hand, learning new things is so much easier these days because all I need is a question, a search bar, and the patience to sort through the junk to find the gold. On the other, the aforementioned junk clutters up the results so much that misinformation has more of an influence than it did when I was growing up. So there are both pros and cons to how information sharing has progressed on the interwebs. Neither side is really significant enough for me to take a stance as to whether it is a good or bad thing, so I regarded merely as something that is. It exists. I can say no more about it because it defies classification much like many things in this universe. It cares not for humanity's love of convenient little boxes for things to be sorted into. Perhaps this is intentional and is meant to teach us a lesson. Perhaps it isn't. I don't know. I can't know. Puny mortal brain is mortal and cannot comprehend the infinite or the nature of the divine in its entirety. All I can do is poke things, observe what happens when I poke the thing, and try to draw conclusions based on that result as my ancestors did all the way back until the time that predates conscious cognition. Whenever that is.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 10 месяцев назад
​@@krankarvolund7771it was less thry were anti-science...its just that the science that agreed with them or if discovered something that DIDN'T keep it a tight tight secret. And the those were the minority too I am afraid. Most priests were dogmatic as hell.
@DomyTheMad420
@DomyTheMad420 10 месяцев назад
i love every single time a historian goes "You know about the lost library already but WHAT IF I TOLD YOU there was another library that may have been even better?!" and i'm ALL for it. every single time. GIVE ME MORE AWESOME HISTORICAL LIBRARIES they're usually shining beacons of positivity throughout history and i love every single one of them
@ALittleWren
@ALittleWren 10 месяцев назад
Abbasids: If you don't want us to kill you, you must give- Byzantines: Yeah yeah, we get it. Here's our gold. Abbasids: What- No! we want your books, why would we want your gold?
@marynoble9464
@marynoble9464 10 месяцев назад
"put that shit away, I want you to tell me your thoughts on naturalist philosophy"
@Jhaldmer
@Jhaldmer 10 месяцев назад
And the fact that caliphate was richer than the greeks at that time probably played a role. Like: If you don’t have money to pay you pay with your books.(Laughs villainishly) 😂
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
​@@marynoble9464"I'll take your entire stock."
@francesleones4973
@francesleones4973 10 месяцев назад
Knowledge is power. Worth more than gold.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 10 месяцев назад
"Why not both?"
@VivaLaDnDLogs
@VivaLaDnDLogs 10 месяцев назад
Blue has such infectious energy, you can't help but get sucked into whatever topic he covers. I've never even heard of the House of Wisdom, and yet now I'm *_fascinated_* by it.
@pagenotfound7248
@pagenotfound7248 10 месяцев назад
Its always fasinating to see how humans of history recorded their knowledge and carried it through generations
@chowyee5049
@chowyee5049 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad you gave Hunayn ibn Ishaq a mention. I really wish more people were aware of the Church of the East's accomplishments. Most people don't even know they existed! Their missionaries planted seeds of Christianity as far as China and invented alphabets for translating the Bible centuries before Catholic and Protestant missionaries would do the same in Asia and Africa. It's sad to see how far they have fallen.
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 10 месяцев назад
Can you elaborate on the "fallen" part?
@aletheuo475
@aletheuo475 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, that's really interesting. I've been doing a lot of research into specifically the Chinese mission, or the Luminous Religion and it's absolutely fascinating to see how these Persian missionaries tried to translate Christian concepts into Tang Dynasty Chinese using concepts from Buddhism and Taoism to make them comprehensible. It's just a pity (from the point of view of a believer) that it got so Buddhist/Taoist it sort of lost its Christian-ness. Still, to see a cross on an 8th Century Chinese monument, or to hear a Trinitarian sutra in a Buddhist style is mind bending. I must try and find out about the Indian Church; that looks equally enthralling.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 10 месяцев назад
According to certain estimations, the Eastern church was a bigger church than the Catholic one in the middle-ages. That means that during that time, there were more christians in the Mddle-East and Asia than in Europe ˆˆ'
@chowyee5049
@chowyee5049 10 месяцев назад
@@kingofcards9516 They were decimated by Tamerlane and reduced back to the Middle East and India. Those communities were then split by Catholic infiltration.
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 10 месяцев назад
@@chowyee5049 seems like they were simply replaced by other churches.
@zatderpscout6017
@zatderpscout6017 10 месяцев назад
The thing I liked most about AC Mirage is how it brought so much back to light that was lost, seeing everything about the lost portions of Baghdad astounded me. Seeing the library was excellent, loved going through it
@tibakhalid5328
@tibakhalid5328 10 месяцев назад
I am a baghdadi and i got so so happy when i saw my fav channel on youtube posting about baghdad and its culture and history. my parents always talk about the old glory days of how baghdad was the "new york city" or "london" of the world and, even now, with everything, it still has traces of that incredibly rich heritage. i have a love hate rlshp w that city, but there is no denying it was a treasure of the old world. thank you so much for sharing that
@dragonmaster3207
@dragonmaster3207 3 месяца назад
I’m also Iraqi and Inshallah we can make a better house of knowledge soon.
@abthedragon4921
@abthedragon4921 10 месяцев назад
6:55 "Mongol smackdown of unexistification" is one of my new favorite OSP terms XD
@shademonki13
@shademonki13 10 месяцев назад
thanks for uploading this immediately as I finish an article on Islamic architecture for a history class, immaculate timing
@ravenpotter3
@ravenpotter3 10 месяцев назад
I just learned about this last week in my early medieval art History class! And I was wanting to learn more
@AnaxErik4ever
@AnaxErik4ever 10 месяцев назад
Being a librarian, and having to take a course on the history and practice of librarianship during grad school, one of the most important phrases I try to impress on people (regarding any fandom or subject they choose to study) is "Know thy history. It prevents you from repeating mistakes and enables you to make smart decisions for the future."
@Wrenzy
@Wrenzy 10 месяцев назад
"Habibi, start building shelves!" tickled me. Awesome video. Would honestly love to hear more about Baghdad and aspects of other Islamic cities that were inspired by it or helped inspire aspects of it in turn.
@NathanSimonGottemer
@NathanSimonGottemer 10 месяцев назад
Fun fact: the word “algorithm” comes from “algoritmi” which was what (either the Italians, Spanish, or Portuguese, I forget) called Al-Khawrizmi
@peggyliepmann5248
@peggyliepmann5248 10 месяцев назад
As someone whose local library is under renovation for structural integrity reasons, hearing about this super cool ancient library is especially fun.
@Heartless-Sage
@Heartless-Sage 10 месяцев назад
I was really looking forward to this one. To say the importance of the Islamic world in our modern age is downplayed if not outright ignored is something of an understatement. So to highlight the scholars, historians, scientists etc without whom we would lack much of our modern concepts of maths, algebray, astrology, and whom preserved the works of the Ancient Greek Philosophers we so adore... Okay I am rambling, thats for the vid Blue, fascinating that its possibly not one specific place but a metaphour for the collective wisdom of an entire people.
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
The Abbasid Cailaphate is the guy who reminds the teacher there's homework, the teacher's pet, and the guy who loves/gets excited over tests and exams.
@Rukdug
@Rukdug 10 месяцев назад
Does that make the Seljuks the bully who makes the Abbasids do his homework for him?
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
Probably. :(
@nathanielmartins5930
@nathanielmartins5930 10 месяцев назад
It is also the one who holds get together study groups and helps everyone else ace the test.
@112steinway
@112steinway 10 месяцев назад
I've heard that when the Mongolians sacked Baghdad they threw all the books and scrolls into the Tigris, which caused the river to turn black with the ink.
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 10 месяцев назад
I heard that same story.
@blacksage2375
@blacksage2375 10 месяцев назад
There are a lot of stories like this about the Mongols, most need to be taken well salted. Like there are stories of them killing a million people in one day yet given the likely forces available this requires like several hundred kills per Mongol.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 10 месяцев назад
Me too. If even has a fraction of truth in this...its such a sad story.
@thenablade858
@thenablade858 8 месяцев назад
The Mongolians were the ultimate jocks. They hated reading SO much.
@thatweirdguywithamask264
@thatweirdguywithamask264 8 месяцев назад
​@@thenablade858 They hated every single part of you if you didn't want to surrender. Except your religion, Genghis was a very progressive man for the 1300s apparently.
@liruenth
@liruenth 10 месяцев назад
4:38 I love hearing about how other religions believe that studying the world does not and should not detract from religion. After all it's really hard to properly worship and follow someone/something you don't understand.
@abdallahelsharkawy3701
@abdallahelsharkawy3701 10 месяцев назад
That's the neat part in Islam, we are obliged to seek out most sorts of knowledge ("most" because of course becoming an expert in black magic isn't the most Islamic thing ever) And you're right. I learned how some electrical measurements devices work on a physical level (eng school) and just looking at some of them makes me smile nowadays. They're just pieces of art where the brush is literally the physics of the universe. Absolutely blows my mind every time
@wes00chin
@wes00chin 10 месяцев назад
Studying science as a form of studying God and his creation is very much a Christian idea too. The idea that science and religion are opposing was an enlightenment era invention
@zaxxo2808
@zaxxo2808 10 месяцев назад
​@@wes00chin That's rough buddy 😢
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 9 месяцев назад
Scholastic theology was a major part of Catholicism and later passed down to the Protestant Denomination via the Early Reformation. The Orthodox Church was not scholastic but that was more that the East was more educated and was largely untouched by social and Technological decline after the Fall of the Western Empire and Orthodox Theologians being ahead of the Latin West during the golden ages of ERE even during the Times Eastern Europe and the Balkans were having a multiple civil war or being invaded by nomadic horse Archers. The Enlightenment is generally scarred with propaganda and attained many insecurities against "Eastern" Culture and the Achievements of past Eras and the Church.
@timelordomega5914
@timelordomega5914 10 месяцев назад
There’s an alternate timeline where the Hagia Sofia became the New House of Wisdom after it was taken by the Ottoman Empire, and I’m only a little sad that it wasn’t our timeline.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 10 месяцев назад
To be fair Mehmet the Conqueror was a rabid scholar and both invited many scholars from around the world and built a LOT of libraries in Istanbul...its just that he was the only scholarly Padişah....yeahhh
@phoenixperson8296
@phoenixperson8296 10 месяцев назад
I love that they saw studying science as a form for worship, more religious people today could benefit from a worldview like that.
@nicholasmaddocks7545
@nicholasmaddocks7545 10 месяцев назад
I love this topic I love this part of Arabic history This was my favorite paper to write about in the university. The Baghdad house of wisdom was one of the most unique libraries in our world history and it's a shame that not many people know about it. I had to compare it with the library of Alexandria and I found that I liked the house of wisdom more.
@herohades2230
@herohades2230 10 месяцев назад
That wonderful moment when an OSP video perfectly lines up not only with a relevent assassin's creed release but also a ck3 dlc release. Nothing quite like watching one of these videos and then being able to go "Okay, Imma do that now too"
@herohades2230
@herohades2230 10 месяцев назад
Also with a jack rackam video, which in all fairness was produced due to the ck release.
@orange6259
@orange6259 10 месяцев назад
BAGHDAD MY ONE TRUE LOVE. Sorry lost my composure for a bit, I'm glad you're making a video on it this is one of my favorite places.
@مخلد-ث5ض
@مخلد-ث5ض 10 месяцев назад
Where are you from
@crown4212
@crown4212 10 месяцев назад
As a history nerd who loves to learn more about different cultures, i love this (also I'm a genshin player, who is a history and mythology nerd and i always like learning more about what inspired things in the game)
@elizaripper
@elizaripper 10 месяцев назад
Okay so we know Blue stole the Library of Alexandria. Are we just going to pretend Blue didn’t pull the same heist with House of Wisdom?😏
@melonsaway3929
@melonsaway3929 10 месяцев назад
No, this was clearly Red. Red sank Atlantis, blue stole the Library of Alexandria braniac style, so Red stole the House of Wisdom
@isapu1948
@isapu1948 10 месяцев назад
Are we sure it's one of them? Couldn't it be Yellow or one of the Greens?
@francesleones4973
@francesleones4973 10 месяцев назад
Or maybe Cyan?
@RussanoGreenstripe
@RussanoGreenstripe 10 месяцев назад
@@francesleones4973 Cyan is my bet as well. She figured it would make a good anniversary present for Blue.
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 9 месяцев назад
and your gonna tell me that he caused the Sack of Constantinople and disguised himself as a venetian merchants to "preserve" those books? Or He conspired with the Holy roman Emperor to invade Italy and to simply Redecorate the Vatican?
@luigiboi4244
@luigiboi4244 10 месяцев назад
Can we go without losing an important Library... for 1 CENTURY??!!!
@yahyamohamad2583
@yahyamohamad2583 10 месяцев назад
Sadly we can't
@thenablade858
@thenablade858 8 месяцев назад
I have been deceived.
@ahmedbenchikha9737
@ahmedbenchikha9737 10 месяцев назад
As a proud Tunisian with roots deeply embedded in Kairouan, the joy I feel is immeasurable. There's a profound resonance when history, once learned as a child, is eloquently echoed by someone from a distant land. It adds a layer of significance that words can scarcely capture
@hanna-liminal
@hanna-liminal 10 месяцев назад
To get properly into the Arabic connections between governance and wisdom - the word "Hikma" (حكمة) that is used in the 'Bait Al-Hikma' name has the same root (h-k-m / حكم) as the word for leader/ruler, 'Haakim' (حاكم). The versatility of the Arabic language is almost definitely our proudest accomplishment ❤ Amazing video as usual!!
@jinxcat90
@jinxcat90 10 месяцев назад
I can't get over studying history, science, philosophy, and more was thought of as a form of worship! I'd live in this Golden Age in a heartbeat!! ❤❤❤
@isapu1948
@isapu1948 10 месяцев назад
This is how I was told Islam worked when I was a little kid in school We're all so proud if that period of history, even if we don't fully know it Which is why it breaks my heart when I see the way modern Muslims act towards science theses day "We're aaaall for it. We have a surrat in the quoran named after it" Right until science says something they don't agree with, suddenly they start acting like they work in a Catholic school
@Gilamath.
@Gilamath. 10 месяцев назад
I feel the exact same way. And it's also heartbreaking to see Catholics in some cases so resistant to scientific consensus. Like, these religious traditions laid down the structure that built the base for current scientific achievement! You should be willing to trust that you can accept the results of that achievement and that it will further your religious understanding, not detract from it
@acady4460
@acady4460 10 месяцев назад
My grandad thought we were descendants of the Umayyads and he made up our last name to sound like it My dad likes to make tshirts and drinking glasses and other stuff with our last name printed on them. He is really proud of his dad and his name and I think its really cute Idk if we really do descend from the Umayyads but my grandad was Pakistani
@nestorjuansavinonportorreal
@nestorjuansavinonportorreal 10 месяцев назад
After the fallout of the omeyans, many princes of that household fled to different points of the Umma. So, perhaps your relatives are right.
@merothehero6359
@merothehero6359 10 месяцев назад
Doubtful. I think the best way would be to take a DNA test. The Umayyads were mass slaughtered by the Abbasids when they took over. The only remaining member was the Hawk of Quraysh who fled to Iberia. Seeing as they are from the opposite end of the globe, I don’t think Umayyad progeny would be in Pakistan
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273
@ibrahimmohammedibrahim9273 6 месяцев назад
They are descended of Umayyed in spain and south America
@Big007Boss
@Big007Boss 9 месяцев назад
I applaud the people who worked on this videos Arabic translations, all accurate, and good pronunciation. Fun fact: the Abbasids made it a rule to collect books from other nations or traders as a tax, then to be translated, ten copies made, then sent a copy to the next house of wisdom, madrasah or minaret, each in turn had to make ten copies to be distributed to the next faculty.
@thaddeushamlet
@thaddeushamlet 10 месяцев назад
Imagine our world today if more religions were/stayed as scholarly as this.
@a.h.s.3006
@a.h.s.3006 9 месяцев назад
3:49 "Thank you Habibi" You just couldn't help yourself couldn't you?
@raiden8919
@raiden8919 10 месяцев назад
I'm not normally one for history, but Blue's die-hard enthusiasum for the topic always makes it entertaining to watch.
@cometmoon4485
@cometmoon4485 10 месяцев назад
The Abassid Golden Age has got to be my favourite era or history! Amazing video.
@jetstreamsnake5466
@jetstreamsnake5466 10 месяцев назад
You wrote it perfectly in Arabic Thank you
@isapu1948
@isapu1948 10 месяцев назад
He learned from last time! God, computers cannot be fully trusted with our language 😅
@themannerchannel784
@themannerchannel784 10 месяцев назад
Just started playing AC Mirage yesterday. I’m currently on an Abbasid history kick. Couldn’t have come at a better time, Blue!
@paulm.8660
@paulm.8660 10 месяцев назад
Assassin's Creed doing the Lord's work again 😂
@mattturner6017
@mattturner6017 10 месяцев назад
Host: "'It was revealed to me in a dream' is *not* the way we conduct our scholarship around here." Dmitri Mendeleev: *Looks around nervously*
@lindafreeman7030
@lindafreeman7030 10 месяцев назад
"Habibi, start building shelves!" is my love language.
@Alterios14
@Alterios14 10 месяцев назад
"Habibi start building shelves "😂😂😂😂
@abdoaboueid8151
@abdoaboueid8151 10 месяцев назад
Didn't expect a habibi in an OSP video but you won't see me complain. Feels right at home
@eddthehead123
@eddthehead123 10 месяцев назад
Habibi is older than any of us realized...serving great minds since whenever
@brittanywetherill472
@brittanywetherill472 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for talking about this 🙏 I had heard the name in passing, and knew prosper talked about it in the same breath as The Library of Alexandria, but I was shaky on the details. This was a wonderful sum up! 📚😁
@josephperez2004
@josephperez2004 10 месяцев назад
"Give readings, or get beatings," is all the more threatening just by how comical it sounds at first.
@qahari4307
@qahari4307 10 месяцев назад
It’s amazing looking at this from a slightly different lense. As a muslim, I’ve gone through all of this for religious regions, but going over it again from this side is nice. Alhamdulillah, I was brought up with study of all kind still being a part of piety. (Surah Fussilat, Verse 53: “We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth”)
@99goosebumps16
@99goosebumps16 10 месяцев назад
I'd love to see videos continuing about the intellectual traditions of medieval religous traditions. You have a video on Maimonodes. I hope you'll make videos on Averroes and Thomas Aquinas.
@theradioactiveplayer3461
@theradioactiveplayer3461 10 месяцев назад
4:50 _Well,_ actually, there was some pretty sick beef between the Greek Philosophy-leaning 'Falsafa'-ists (Neoplatonic philosophers of the Islamic world) and the more orthodox Islamic theologians (Mutakallimun) - of particular note was the somewhat hilarious treatise exchange between Abu Ali Ibn Sina (known to the West as Avicenna) and a guy called Al-Ghazali (his real name is very long and I'll put it at the bottom). Ibn Sina was strongly influenced by Neoplatonic ideas about a thing called "the One"; now, I'm not gonna up and explain 800 years of philosophical convention, so I'm just gonna say: if you've seen FMAB, you've got a reasonable idea of what it is. For the rest of you, it's basically a Spiritual person's conception of divinity. So, Sina applied these ideas to the Abrahamic Creator, also describing the idea of "cogito ergo sum" a good 1000 years before Descartes learned how to write. Then, al-Ghazali wrote the equivalent of a diss-track, in "The Incoherence of the Philosophers", where he basically just cracked down on every point Ibn Sina made and showed how it didn't fit in with Qur'anic teachings
@CrustyCheapster
@CrustyCheapster 10 месяцев назад
Literally just came back from a lecture about this stuff in a West and the World Course. OSP is psychic.
@goodnewsgeek42
@goodnewsgeek42 10 месяцев назад
The real House of Wisdom was the scholars we made along the way
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 10 месяцев назад
Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@studogable
@studogable 10 месяцев назад
Great little video! I loved the emphasis on the Mongol impact. Too easy for North Atlantic folk to forget. Humble suggestion: you would really enjoy looking into the culture of "medieval" Timbuktu. That would make one hell of a video.
@azizaallani3419
@azizaallani3419 7 месяцев назад
On the mention of Kairouan and how similar it must've looked like to Baghdad, you're absolutely right about it! And sincerely thank you for making that observation Blue! For the anecdote, Kairouan was under the Ummeyyads however showed some sort of resistance, by resisting, Kairouan offered refuge to the orphaned Abu Jaafar Al Mansur, the soon-to-be founding father of Baghdad during his younger years, and as he lived there, he met his wife, Arwa Al Himyari a daughter of a rich Kairouanese merchant who hosted Abu Jaafar Al Mansur in his home, as they lived together, he wanted to get married to her and she accepted to the condition of getting married according to kairouanese customs and the Kairouanese Sadak, which is a type of prenup that granted women a whole set of rights and autonomy, Abu Jaafar accepted the deal after some convincing (it's actually a really good love story and could be featured in your upcoming Valentine's Day video ;)))) and eventually got married. Abu Jaafar and Arwa left Kairouan together and actually build Baghdad together, Abou Jaafar was heavily inspired by his host city while building Baghdad, and even ordered the city of Kairouan to be protected by a massive wall (that you can still visit today btw). Anyways, back to Arwa, she gave birth to Al Mahdi who will eventually finish building Baghdad to his father's vision, and have a kid named Haroun Al Rashid. Now who might his kid turn out to be you may ask? He's none other than the man who ordered building the Baghdad House Of Wisdom (which was inspired by Abu Jaafar and Arwa's own private library in the earliest days of the Abbasid Caliphate) and thus boosting the Islamic Golden Age! I hope this piece of info reaches you :) and I absolutely loved the video, great work!
@thetalamhclisteach1848
@thetalamhclisteach1848 10 месяцев назад
Always a fan of further interest in the Islamic Golden Age
@ravenpotter3
@ravenpotter3 10 месяцев назад
I just learned about that in my early medieval art history class last week! Also your Byzantine video before just came in time for a exam on that
@16tonw8
@16tonw8 10 месяцев назад
Hey Blue, there's a typo in your arabic for "al-Ma'mun" at 5:18. It should be "المأمون". You typed "aaamun" (or maybe "al-amun" with the connecting line between the first two letters missing)
@annjowolfe1561
@annjowolfe1561 9 месяцев назад
Actually, the little tail on the right of the letter lam is the letter mim ('m'), it's just a different way of writing it
@seanpoore2428
@seanpoore2428 10 месяцев назад
"Habibi! Start building shelves!!"
@mirjanbouma
@mirjanbouma 10 месяцев назад
I especially love qhen Blue covers stuff i have never heard of before ❤
@benbayne-davies2397
@benbayne-davies2397 10 месяцев назад
Wow, this is seriously amazing. Just incredible.
@a.cunningham4974
@a.cunningham4974 10 месяцев назад
The river was said not to run red with blood, but black with ink.
@hak12288
@hak12288 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for making this video dude. I absolutely love your content
@Figue-
@Figue- 10 месяцев назад
I was waiting for a video on medieval mesopotamia for such a long time !
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 10 месяцев назад
8:16 Pope Sylvester II (before becoming pontiff known as Gerbert of Aurillac) is my favorite Medieval pope. Absolutely fascinating guy. You could make a video about him, or make a video about the "Ottonian Renaissance" and include Sylvester in it, alongside other interesting people, like Emperor Otto II.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 10 месяцев назад
Slaps on roof "This baby can fit so much wisdom!"
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573 10 месяцев назад
Finally you write Arabic in the right way thank you very much
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry 10 месяцев назад
'Give Readings or Get Beatings'. - Al-Mamun, 813.
@adisura9904
@adisura9904 10 месяцев назад
Now that you've made a video on Alexandria and Baghdad, I'm hoping to see one on Taxila or Nalanda
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
Or that Assyrian library?
@tk-zay5073
@tk-zay5073 10 месяцев назад
Blue your posts help keep my love of history as strong as it is! Soooo cool
@ToroHarfang
@ToroHarfang 10 месяцев назад
This is the nerdiest I've heard Blue be in a while. 💜
@jordinagel1184
@jordinagel1184 10 месяцев назад
“The almighty Mongol smackdown of unexistification” needs to be put on a shirt
@willhibbard6903
@willhibbard6903 10 месяцев назад
Videos like this make me wish there was a multi-like button just to clap for the quality on display here
@alitem3364
@alitem3364 10 месяцев назад
Citizen from the eastern side of Baghdad here to represent 🙏
@jannecoolen2816
@jannecoolen2816 7 месяцев назад
5:24 "give readings or get beatings" made me laugh out loud
@nicoletaylor933
@nicoletaylor933 10 месяцев назад
This was awesome! I love language related content. It is so fun.
@LibertyMonk
@LibertyMonk 10 месяцев назад
2:40 Persian "round cities." excuse me, what? You're telling me they're not only where Assassins come from (on the opposite side of the region), but also where the circle city concept comes from? What next, it's also where {insert just about any other wildly foundational part of western mythology} comes from? Yeah, probably.
@onebrownmeece
@onebrownmeece 10 месяцев назад
Fantastic episode. Minor fact check, though. Al Qarawayyin is the world's oldest university in continuous operation, but the *first* university (defined as a multi-disciplinary learning institution) is arguably Taxila (Takshashila) in the Indian subcontinent, dating back to around 300-500 BCE.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 10 месяцев назад
I'm a muslim from pakistan and i agree with you
@_jpg
@_jpg 9 месяцев назад
Hate to disappoint, because while today's University of al-Qarawiyyin is indeed the oldest continually operating higher learning institution in the world, it was considered a madrasa until 1957, when it actually adapted to be called a university. That last point is also why the University of Bologna is generally named as the first of it's kind, since it uses the Latin term "universitas", making it effectively a distinct European concept and also part of the definition.
@thenablade858
@thenablade858 8 месяцев назад
@@_jpgThis is why it should be called the oldest continuous higher education institution, rather than simply a university. While universities were influenced by madrasas, they differ in a few ways.
@onebrownmeece
@onebrownmeece 6 месяцев назад
​@@_jpg sure, but Bologna is still younger than Taxila? I'm not sure what you believe my disappointment here is, but I'm simply pointing out that multi-disciplinary "higher" - what an odd term, I hope you can see - education didn't have it's first start in Europe. This doesn't take away from the accomplishments of Bologna! It doesn't confer secularity on al -Qarawayyin! But if you think there's some sort of adversarial conversation to be had here that's all you, mate.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 10 месяцев назад
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 10 месяцев назад
Heh... this is useful information for one of my D&D characters, who ended up in the greater multiverse thanks to hiding in the House Of Wisdom... and accidentally winding up in L-Space, Discworld's dimension of absolute knowledge.
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo 10 месяцев назад
Tell me what happened okay? Please!!
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 10 месяцев назад
@@Ami-jc2oo Whattaya want to know?
@tippydippy6529
@tippydippy6529 10 месяцев назад
This is such a great history video, I enjoy every one
@thanetothefalseking332
@thanetothefalseking332 10 месяцев назад
Just engagin’ with the content here, Barnes.
@leonriley6396
@leonriley6396 10 месяцев назад
The last time i was this early Rome still had a single emperor
@adityaprabhash5927
@adityaprabhash5927 10 месяцев назад
Loved the video!! Although at 8:12 you mentioned The University of al Qarawiyyin as the world's first university? Wasn't the university of Nalanda established centuries before this one?
@sascha1493
@sascha1493 10 месяцев назад
nalanda as we know it today is an emulated version of the ancient one, and that one stopped existing in the 12th or 13th century. al quarawiyyin is considered the oldest university that still exists today.
@adityaprabhash5927
@adityaprabhash5927 10 месяцев назад
​@@sascha1493I see, so he meant oldest university that's still around. Thanks!
@xxPECT0
@xxPECT0 5 месяцев назад
Major props to Blue for pronouncing the "H" in hikmah properly.
@nourriadh6976
@nourriadh6976 10 месяцев назад
My beautiful city 🤍 As much as i hate the Abbasid caliphs for religious reasons, but the way Baghdad flourished in every sense of the word at their time is truly awe-inspiring.
@zero95lucky
@zero95lucky 10 месяцев назад
How are things in your city? All we hear about are the bombings, & the protests, & fires, & drone-strikes. Someone below even said, is a h'hole. But for the average people, living everyday life. Are things normal? That may be insensitive. Are things okay?
@مخلد-ث5ض
@مخلد-ث5ض 10 месяцев назад
​@@zero95lucky Where did you get this from? Oh, I forgot. You listen to the Western media 😂 It’s normal, brother. We live like you live in your country
@bookfanatic8329
@bookfanatic8329 10 месяцев назад
Yes, yes, more history videos!
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 10 месяцев назад
Yeah there was a very large influential library at Timbuktu.
@SXAbridged
@SXAbridged 10 месяцев назад
4:49 - I mean, it was the same for Christianity too; lead to the Renaissance. It’s a shame when religious institutions turn on scientific pursuits instead of embracing them.
@povertymidas
@povertymidas 10 месяцев назад
I was only slightly disappointed when you didn't shout "arches" but I guess a quality video teaching me something fascinating is ok too. I can't be mad at Blue.
@pirateraider1708
@pirateraider1708 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like the House of Wisdom could've been the name for a huge literary organization, with public and private installations located all over. But like modern organizations & businesses, they went under.
@EthanKironus8067
@EthanKironus8067 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for covering Islamic history on its own terms! Things aren't as bad as they used to be with regard to Western respect for Islamic contributions to science, etc., but the fact that you're so enthusiastic about it still feels special. ...yeah, I'm probably making it obvious how infuriating I find all that "Europeans invented everything" crap. EDIT - I wrote that a minute into the video, and I shouldn't be so overjoyed by you doing a basic action like citing the Hijri calendar in addition to the Gregorian or whichever it is, but considering that you were under no formal obligation (other than honesty, responsible historiography, and general historical fidelity), I must salute you. EDIT 2 - 4:37 - YES THANK YOU FINALLY A NON-MUSLIM GETS IT!
@Busy_Mason
@Busy_Mason 10 месяцев назад
A board game called Scholars of the South Tigris has recently come out about this, and features managing chains of translators to get scrolls from any language into Arabic 😁
@disillusioned.hermit
@disillusioned.hermit 10 месяцев назад
Would love to see Blue cover the history of Palestine, just like he did with Hong-Kong & Ukraine. I always love learning about more about the history of the Middle East since it tends to be barely mentioned in western history books (so dumb) & it’s more relevant than ever right now. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@opheliapurple
@opheliapurple 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely this
@NoOne-gg5mc
@NoOne-gg5mc 10 месяцев назад
I'd love to see that too. However, knowing how recent events have made the discourse surrounding Palestine very tense, it might be for the best to wait a while and let the intensity die down before tackling the subject. I wouldn't want them to be a target for mass harassment by Zionists.
@Justic_
@Justic_ 10 месяцев назад
As much as I'd like to see them to that, since Ifeel like the history of that region after the Crusades up until the modern times isn't something people generally know or have cared about, but considering how much more grey (or black-on-black rather than black and white) the current conflict is, it's probably a better idea to steer around that for at least a bit, with a video that doesn't directly take a side.
@disillusioned.hermit
@disillusioned.hermit 10 месяцев назад
I hear you, but I think the zionists & their propaganda that’s everywhere is all the more reason to speak up about Palestine especially when there is an active genocide happening to Palestinians. Gaza is essentially a concentration camp right now. Also the “conflict” has always been pretty simple, it’s just that Israel’s propaganda has been working until the last decade where social media has allowed people to actually see what’s going on. The “conflict” is literally that the Palestinians are native to their land & Israel has been trying to exterminate them since its inception so they could have that land (look up Plan Dalet). With the platform that OSP has it would be amazing to see them talk about it. Obviously we can’t force them, but it would be nice to see them do the right thing just as they did with Hong-Kong & Ukraine.
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 10 месяцев назад
@@NoOne-gg5mc are the Zionists in the room with us now Goebbels?
@zenkomenhi
@zenkomenhi 10 месяцев назад
YES, FINALLY, LOVE THE BAGHDAD HOUSE OF WISDOM
@TheProtagonizer
@TheProtagonizer 10 месяцев назад
I thought the same 🎉🎉🎉
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