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I'm not much of a videographer and this is my first attempt at movie making so please excuse the quality. This is a Miller Table I made out of a piece of melamine shelving, a Hobbico self healing mat and a couple of odds and ends I had laying around. Instead of the mat you can use chalkboard paint or truck bed liner spray paint and they will work almost as well. These tables work very well for separating gold from the black sands and other materials.
I wanted a smaller more compact table for processing cons that would take up very little room and could be used at home with a small fountain pump or out in the field with a battery powered bilge pump. This one is much larger than it needs to be but the mat was 12" x 18" and I decided to make it the same size as the mat so that I wouldn't have to cut it. This only needs about a 200 GPH pump to run and Harbor Freight sells 2 that work very well. A 200 GPH and a 264 GPH.
After I clean the cons out of my sluice I set this up and it will give me nice clean gold in a very short time and is much faster than the Blue Bowls and other similar machines. I have recovered -200 mesh and smaller with it.
UPDATE: Nov 25, 2015
I have just uploaded a new video for those who are interested in building one of these. It addresses a problem some of the folks have had with water leakage. You can find the new video here:
• BUILDING A MILLER TABLE
On the water bar, A "T" shaped water bar like is shown here gives the most even water flow across the table. Drill the holes 1/8" in diameter 1/2" apart. Point the holes so the water hits the back wall of the table just about where the floor and the back wall come together. Adjust the water smoothing board so there is about 1/16" gap underneath. I use a quarter to set the gap. This should give you a very smooth glass like flow.
To Run: Set the table to nearly level. Turn on the pump. Place a spoonful of material on the table and then adjust the nut on the elevation bolt till the light material just starts to move down the table. If you have black sand adjust the angle until it just starts to move down the table. This will be about the best angle to run this. You can put a valve on the water hose to help control the water flow as well. You can screen your cons to different mesh sizes and run each one separately and adjust the water flow and angle to work the best with each size. Use a brush to spread the material over the width of the table. When the gold comes in contact with the table it will stay where it makes contact. It can ride down the table on the lighter sand so it's important to spread the material out so the gold comes in contact with the table. I found that a basting brush with plastic bristles found in the cooking accessories part of your grocery store works best. The sand and gold won't stick to it.
You can also check out my other video where I show it in action.

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@johnwasham5947
@johnwasham5947 9 лет назад
Really nice build. Thanks for your help. John
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 9 лет назад
Thanks John, nice of you to stop by. Hope your table works well for you. You did a nice build on it. Hope it catches lots of the yellow stuff for you.
@patrickjobling8676
@patrickjobling8676 5 лет назад
A thing of beauty..😁
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 5 лет назад
Rick jobling Hi Rick, thank you and thanks for watching.
@nevyen149
@nevyen149 6 лет назад
My panning partner just spent around $225 on a 'store bought' version of one of these...against my suggestion otherwise. I hadn't even heard of Miller Tables in general, and he described the thing by the brand name anyway, but I kept telling him to let me have time to watch the link he sent me, and assured him we could most likely easily build something much cheaper. I just brought up the link, and about two down from that was this video, where...lo and behold...a great person from Utah shows us how to make one for what looks like, under $20, especially since I already have the spar varnish. My high-banker and sluice are built from half purpose built parts and half hardware store finds, and my mini-sluice is a total Home Depot project, so this way is much better for me. Thanks to the poster for doing all the trial and error and being generous enough to give the knowledge away.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Thank you Nevyen and thanks for watching. Yes, these homemade tables will work every bit as well as the commercial versions. These are by far the best inexpensive way to separate the gold from the black sands. A couple of tips since this was made. Brush on Chalkboard paint seems to work as well if not better than the Hobbico Mat. Also If you use the melamine shelf, be sure to paint the whole board with at least 4 coats of waterproof paint. The Chalkboard paint works great for this. There are thin joints on the edges where the plastic ends and water can slip in to the wood. Be sure the edges are well painted. This will work fine without a gold bottle vial and just using a snuffer bottle, but if you put in the gold vial hole be sure to waterproof it very well. This is where most peoples boards develop a problem. I now use Titebond III waterproof glue for this as is dries to a thin coating and water proofs very well. Also paint it with the Chalkboard paint. I have a new Video on making Cutting Board Miller Tables to get around the problems people have had with the melamine shelf. You can find it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BPJfg2MWcjA.html You may also want to try one of my easy build drop riffle sluices. They are had to beat for fine gold and easy to build. Here is part 1 of 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LJHBAAqrAbA.html I am about to release a new set of videos on a new Miller Table design that is a little more work to build but really works much better than the old design so you may want to stay tuned.
@nevyen149
@nevyen149 6 лет назад
Was already going to jump to your latest designs, why ignore the work you've already done? And I had thought of cutting board before I saw your video about it. I have a great little sluice from corrugated drain tube, but I will take a look at all your devices, no offense, to steal your good ideas. Thanks again.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Hi Nevyen, by all means feel free to use any of the ideas I put up here. I build and extensively test a number of different pieces of equipment a year and some of the better ones I put up here to give other folks an idea on how to build them. If you check my channel out you may find other projects you would like to build. So feel free to use any you like and enjoy. Here is a link to my other videos. I hope this works. ru-vid.comvideos?view_as=subscriber
@nevyen149
@nevyen149 6 лет назад
Thanks!
@therrienmichael08
@therrienmichael08 10 лет назад
This is exactly what I wanted to see. Good Job.
@UTAvalanche
@UTAvalanche 10 лет назад
Thanks Mike. I have some more how to's like this if I can ever get this RU-vid thing figured out. I'm having a hard time trying to add more videos to this. This has been my first go around trying to post.
@mikeczemerys
@mikeczemerys 8 лет назад
Awesome,,Thank you very much for taking your time to show and build this for people.awesome job,,,to buy the $$ price is crazy.i had a blue bowl..used it once,hate it,these tables are awesome once again,thank you .
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 8 лет назад
+Mike Czemerys Hi Mike, thanks for taking the time to watch. I agree that these tables are great. I have made about 30 of them in the past few years experimenting with them. They will definitely beat the Blue Bowls in speed and they don't lose the gold that the Blue Bowls do. If you plan to build one you might want to check out the my latest build video located here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1EsOYqSWrk0.html This new video shows how to waterproof the melamine board a lot better, especially if you make one with the gold bottle hole.
@gettinrings
@gettinrings 9 лет назад
Very nice table!!!! Great how to video!!! I am going to start my own build this coming weekend... THANKS for showing me how!!! AAAAAAAA++++++++++ JOB!!!!!!!!
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 9 лет назад
Thanks for stopping by. I think you will really like how it works for you.
@enverboyaalici2923
@enverboyaalici2923 4 года назад
thank you
@johnburens3395
@johnburens3395 8 лет назад
I like to make my own stuff too. Nice job!
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 8 лет назад
+john burens Thank you John. Thanks for stopping by. Sometimes I think I get more fun out of building the equipment than I do finding the gold. :-)
@davidhaykus1568
@davidhaykus1568 3 года назад
Looks very easy to build, what is the spacing of the dam above the mat and what do you use to stick the mat to the shelf unit? thank you very much.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 3 года назад
Hi David and thanks for watching. I used 2 quarters stacked on top of each other for the spacing. I used rubber cement to glue the Hobbico mat to the base board. Yes this is quite easy to build and it does a great job separating the gold. I have a newer version that works much better and is very easy to build as well. You can find the build plans here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ktDZzlkm0H8.html I have an even newer version that I haven’t had a chance to do a video on yet. It’s my last video where I show my latest projects. It has a catch pad for runaway pieces at the bottom.
@geraldoferreira4715
@geraldoferreira4715 6 лет назад
Gostei, parabéns!
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Thank you for watching.
@garygrender6903
@garygrender6903 10 лет назад
Outstanding work with nice details. Well done! Do you prefer chalkboard paint to the mat, or the other way around? My table needs one or the other as I am not pleased with it's performance.
@UTAvalanche
@UTAvalanche 10 лет назад
Thanks Gary. I find that the Hobbico mat gives just a little edge over the paint. You can buy the mat on Amazon for about $15 -18.00. In my other video at the end I show a short clip of my Chalkboard paint table hanging on to the gold. Right now I'm in the process of making another table or two to try out the bed liner paint and some black rubber shelf liner, kind of like is on the black magic table. I find that the water flow and the angle have a great deal to do with how well the table holds the gold. These tables really work well when you get them dialed in. I think everyone should have one for their cons.
@oxstien123
@oxstien123 7 лет назад
Great project definitely have to build, what's the spacing of the dam piece and the working surface, haven't seen to many videos explain that part
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 7 лет назад
Hi Marven, the distance isn't critical and some folks eliminate the smoothing bar all together. I usually place it about 2-1/2 to 3 inches away from the back of the sluice. The purpose of it is to smooth the water flow and control the depth of the water on the table. If you have course gold then adjust it so there is about 1/8" or I stack 2 quarters on top of each other. If you are looking for nano gold then adjust the bar to 1 quarter high or 1/16". If you haven't already you might want to watch my video on how to waterproof the board better. You can find it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1EsOYqSWrk0.html Thanks for watching and best of luck with your build.
@johngillen3331
@johngillen3331 6 лет назад
Awesome. I noticed the dam and sump design are a little different than the table you used with the grandson. Is there any specific reason you changed it? I liked the enclosed dam better but do they work the same too?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Hi John, thanks for watching. Yes they are similar but different. The table here and in my cutting board video has the water shooting down onto the table from the water bar above the table and needs the dam board, and some folks use scrubber pads to help reduce the turbulence. With the one in the Urban prospecting, the water bar is down in a well. When the well fills up the weight of the water reduces the turbulence in the water to almost zero and gives a flow that's smooth as glass which is very important if you are working with gold in the 80 - 200 mesh bracket. That is the range I am trying to catch. It also makes it easier to make fine adjustments to the water flow. But the table is a little more work to build but I think worth it. I have the build video on it finished and now working on an introduction video so I can explain how it works and then the video on how to build it for those who are interested. So stay tuned if it sounds of interest. Yep, I know, another project. :-) I also have some better waterproofing techniques for wood with this one as well.
@greenerlumber
@greenerlumber 10 лет назад
Great Video! I really like the design and plan to build a couple for me and my prospecting buddy. Could you tell me if you glued the Hobbico mat to the table base and what kind of adhesive you used? Melamine can be tricky for adhesive so that is why I ask. Again, really nice job! Rich.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 10 лет назад
Thank you Rich. So far everyone I know who has built these really like them and I think you will too. Since this one I have built 6 others using different materials for the surface and I like the Hobbico Mat the best followed by the Chalkboard Paint. One thing that has come up over time is that some melamine is not well sealed and may have some small areas that water can seep in through. I now recommend giving the Melamine board a couple of good coats of exterior paint just to be on the safe side. I like Helmsman Spar Varnish for the sides and I now use it on the Melamine as well. This also helps solve the glue to melamine problem which I ran into as well. Yes, I recommend gluing it down to the melamine. That helps keep the mat as flat as possible. I had problems with my mat buckling slightly with temperature changes and so I glued it down with some spray adhesive I had. It later came unglued. I now use Titebond III waterproof glue for anything that will be getting wet and that has worked well for me. Good luck with your build and I hope you enjoy it as well as I have mine.
@rubyduma6238
@rubyduma6238 9 лет назад
So you didn't have to caulk the sides to the bottom board, you just waterproofed the cedar parts? Also, do you think the chalk paint works better than the hobbico mat?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 9 лет назад
+Prospector Ruby Hi Ruby, Sorry I missed this one. Yes, I use silicone to seal the crack between the sides and the bottom board. I also use Helmsman Spar Varnish to seal the cedar sides. I think the Hobbico mat is still better than the chalkboard paint but the chalkboard paint is very close but needs to be given a new coat periodically. I have recently found a new paint for sealing the Melamine board which is better than anything I have tried before. I hope to have a new video out on it soon.
@marioslianos8806
@marioslianos8806 9 лет назад
hi.im from greece i buy from greece 60x40 (blue color) cut mat.is for hoby airplanes and other.is healing self mat.is same in this hobbico?i dont know what mean hobbico.:D....i try to buy from america but i cant .here in greece have capital control fron banc and blocket this (paysafe for this mat).nice vedeo.please mr if you want answer me.soz for my english
@fetymann
@fetymann 8 лет назад
I know this was filmed a while ago, but at the time did you realize your vial was cracked?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 8 лет назад
+fetymann Thanks for watching. Thank you, yes I knew it was broken but it was the only one I had at the time and I didn't want to put off posting my video until my next shipment of them came in. Yep it eventually broke on me and was replaced.
@es47
@es47 6 лет назад
Nice where did you get the mat cant find them
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
shaun schollaert Hi Shaun and thanks for watching. You can find the mats at most office supply stores or on EBay. It is a self healing cutting mat. If you watched any of my other Miller Table videos, I have since found that Rustoleum Chalkboard paint actually works better and is about the same price or cheaper. You can buy it at Home Depot, Lowe's or most paint stores. Also instead of the shelf for the base, I found you can use just a piece of pine or other wood. Just sand it well and give it at least 5 Coates of paint. The Chalkboard paint works well for this.
@flamemagby
@flamemagby 8 лет назад
where did you get the threaded washers to level your table?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 8 лет назад
+Flame Hi and thanks for watching. You can go to Ebay and do a search on: 1/4" Mount Adapter for Tripod Screw To Flash Hot Shoe. You can also buy these on Amazon although they are more expensive. I use these on the elevation bolt as well as the leveling bar at the front of the sluice. You can use just a regular bolt as well but these make it a lot easier to adjust the levels and elevation.
@jdsracing2003
@jdsracing2003 8 лет назад
glue the washer to the nut
@AlecL
@AlecL 9 лет назад
What size is the pipe?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 9 лет назад
Alec L Hi Alec, thanks for watching. You can use either 1/2" or 3/4" PVC for the water bar. I usually use the 1/2" because you don't need a lot of water to run the table. I make a lot of these tables for testing different ways to make them and try different materials. I have tried both sizes of pipe but I can't see much difference between the two sizes. If you saw my video on my mini sluice, I now have that and a larger one on a small portable 3 gallon recirculating set up so I can swap out the 2 sluices and a miller table. I will use the 3/4" pipe on all of those so the hose will fit on all of them I drill 1/8" holes 1/2" apart the full length of the water bar. Then angle them so they point toward the bottom back corner where the bottom of the table and the end of it comes together. This allows the water from the different streams to mix together into a larger smoother flow. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
@blackhawk3079
@blackhawk3079 6 лет назад
Im sure 1/2
@enverboyaalici2923
@enverboyaalici2923 4 года назад
8X 12 İNÇ ?
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 4 года назад
Enver Boyaalici Hi Enver and thank you for watching. It is 11-1/2 x 17 - 1/2 Inches.
@johnnyllooddte3415
@johnnyllooddte3415 6 лет назад
do you sell kits
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
johnny llooddte Sorry no, I just put these videos up to try to help those who would like to try making one.
@urbangoldprospector690
@urbangoldprospector690 5 лет назад
I appreciate your videos I made a miller table yesterday from your inspirational video. Your grandson inspired me to prospect. Would you email me so I can pick your brain my email is garthone@yahoo.com thanks
@interstellarsurfer
@interstellarsurfer 5 лет назад
Needs more mouth breathing! ^_^ Seriously, excellent, practical craftsmanship. Thank you for aharing your work.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 5 лет назад
Interstellarsurfer Thank you for watching.
@thomasl7917
@thomasl7917 6 лет назад
stop smoking
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching. I don't smoke.
@MrDemolitionmission
@MrDemolitionmission 6 лет назад
I really like your description to ease the build of your Miller Table . How did you adhere the mat to the table ? I am going to try gorilla glue . It worked great to fix my beat up gold cube . Great collection of informative videos !
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Russ Fleetwood Hi Russ, thanks for watching. I'm afraid Gorilla glue is a bad choice for this job as it foams up and creates bumps we don't want in the mat. Counter top contact cement is the best glue for this. If you haven't bought the mat yet, I'm finding that brush on chalkboard paint works just as well. I found that it's hard to waterproof that board as well, so be sure to give every inch of it at least 6 coats of chalkboard paint. Most people have problems getting the vial hole sealed to where the water won't seep through and cause swelling. My newer cutting board table gets around many of the problems. You might want to check that one out. I am right now working on a new table that is a little more work but is the best table I have ever worked on and is a totally new design. See my Urban Prospecting video for a preview. Hope to have the video out soon.
@MrDemolitionmission
@MrDemolitionmission 6 лет назад
Thank you so much . I have a couple mats now so I will get some counter top cement . I am also adding an extra bottle to capture gold on either side of the table . I am going to use the good gray automotive silicone to seal the vial cap in to the table .
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Russ Fleetwood Hi Russ. The weldwood original contact cement is the best. You can buy it at Home Depot or Lowe's in a quart can. Brush it on both surfaces you are going to glue to and let them dry. You can suspend the mat above the table on about 3 or 4 1/4" wood dowels and then starting at one end, remove a dowel and let the mat touch. Then carefully work on down the table. Once the 2 surfaces touch even slightly they will be permanently glued. So be sure everything is lined up perfectly before they touch. You may want to find a couple of RU-vid vids on laying countertops to get the idea. It's tricky glue but one of the few that is waterproof. Good luck.
@utahavalanch
@utahavalanch 6 лет назад
Russ, I just found another glue that might be easier to use. It is supposed to glue different materials together including plastics to wood. It is: Titebond Polyurethane Glue. You can get it at Walmart. It has a 30 minute set up time which would allow plenty of time to align everything and it is water proof. Hope this helps.
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