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Hobby Cheating 192 - Speed Painting Base Coats (No Airbrush) 

Vince Venturella
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In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through my method for laying down base coats that lets you speed paint with contrast without an airbrush. Hope you enjoy!
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@trollpainterandson399
@trollpainterandson399 5 лет назад
I have found many of your videos useful to date. But you have no idea how much just clicked for me with this one. Thanks.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That is awesome to hear and happy to help as always.
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 5 лет назад
Even if you paint something awesome by accident, you still painted something awesome. I actually set aside the anxiety today and painted bravely.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That's awesome to hear and I totally agree.
@CryinMo
@CryinMo 5 лет назад
“Geeeet outta here.” Lol, you’re the best, dude, always appreciate your candor and your kindness, man. Thank u for the hard work and effort you put into creating content for all us plebs. (We’re not all plebs, I know - only speaking for myself lol.)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you, no one is a pleb. Everyone is on their own place on the hobby journey, happy to help as always. :)
@nocturnowl_0100
@nocturnowl_0100 5 лет назад
A great video demo'ing just how fast a person can be and still get aspirational results, along with interesting commentary on the painting process vs what is considered the norm. Great timing on this upload as well, thanks vince!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
@Kukrapoth
@Kukrapoth 3 года назад
Really inspiring video, thank you ! I'm struggling to have proper contrast on my minis and I feel your tutorials are a goldmine of information.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Happy to help as always. :)
@DrDanco86
@DrDanco86 5 лет назад
can't tell you how much these, and other paint videos have helped me. I'm still learning and trying to get better, but they've helped me understand what i need to work on. Thank you.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That is awesome to hear, happy to help as always. :)
@jamesford7937
@jamesford7937 4 года назад
Hey man, thank you for providing this resource to use humble wargamers. You are a fantastic artist, and for you to make these and put on RU-vid is really amazing
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Thank you, that is deeply appreciated.
@Ciruk1001
@Ciruk1001 5 лет назад
Thank you Vince! bewteen this video and the PMP are helping me to learn a different way of painting other than the basecoat+washed+highlight , hopefully later this year I will be able to challenge myself to get more tools in the painting toolbox and get a different painted army under my belt. Very insightful and useful.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always.
@Wolfmast3r
@Wolfmast3r 5 лет назад
This would be more than enough to get my miniatures on table. I'll definitely give it a try. Thank you for this whole serie. :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Awesome, happy to help as always.
@SKAtholisch
@SKAtholisch 5 лет назад
Thank you for showing how to paint on zenithal priming!!! This is an eye opener for me!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Happy to help as always. I have so many more videos on Zenithals, as there are lots of places one can go. :)
@ingl0rius
@ingl0rius 3 года назад
Hey :) I’m a recent subscriber, I love your videos. This one in particular really spoke to me; I’m back into painting minis after about 15 years away from the hobby, but I have spend a lot of time with traditional 2d art, and this type of technique is right up my alley. You paint beautifully and your teaching style is superb; can’t wait to experiment with this style. Thank you!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Welcome aboard! Very happy to help. :)
@shankley_has_a_brush
@shankley_has_a_brush 2 года назад
Vince! This video is extremely liberating. Thanks for showing that I don't need to always be fussing about every little thing. I may give this a whirl with some black armor.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 года назад
Awesome!
@justinvaughan8231
@justinvaughan8231 3 года назад
This is excellent and fired me up. Cant wait to work on this method, thanks for sharing
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Excellent, always happy to help.
@AegisbrandStudios
@AegisbrandStudios 4 года назад
This video spoke to me on so many levels. I think your comments on confidence and fear of laying on the paint really hit a note. I am glad I was finally able to find the time to watch some of your videos
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
That is wonderful to hear. happy to help as always. :)
@jessehammil3897
@jessehammil3897 5 лет назад
Thank you for this! I have been trying to glaze a space marine I to a satin type armor. For days. This was the push I needed to stop worrying and have fun. I grabbed some warcolours marine 5 and 3 and did the shoulder pads. 10 minutes of work and it looks way better than what I had been doing. Most fun. I have had painting in awhile. Especially with warcolours. They have been a bit difficult to use. I went for it straight out of the bottle and it worked well. Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@ThomasGallinari
@ThomasGallinari 5 лет назад
Wow very impressive and most useful "beginner" tutorial I've watched in a while! Sometimes it pays off to re-learn basics in a different way and this is all this video is about, thanks for the great tip!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@Biologifilm
@Biologifilm 3 года назад
Great video and such an invogorating approach. Will definitely try to implement this more into my own painting
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 5 лет назад
This is a superb example of painting, "on the miniature" very inspirational stuff, thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you sir, happy to help as always.
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 4 года назад
@Craig X dick much?
@jamesvaldez9467
@jamesvaldez9467 5 лет назад
That was magic! You're a WIZARD Vince...
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
I await my owl any day now. ;)
@alanrennox7340
@alanrennox7340 5 лет назад
You are a hell of a teacher Vince, I've said it before, I have been painting models on and off for 40 years and I have learned more in the last 18 months watching you than at any other time, many thanks and keep up the amazing work.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That is wonderful to hear and I am very happy to help as always. :)
@13Robzilla
@13Robzilla 5 лет назад
If there is a limit to how much one person can blow your mind, Vince exceeds it without fear or hesitation, thank you Vince!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@Xabierum
@Xabierum 4 года назад
A revolutionary video to me, as a painter trapped in the GW layer style. I wonder how to free myself from those chains. Great work.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@cyagen9782
@cyagen9782 3 года назад
Will have to try this....BTW this is one of our most Bob Rossian video "You are the master of the model!" "There is no pity in this dojo"....Loved it!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Thank you, this is one of my favorite ways to paint for sure. It's just so relaxing.
@chibizion
@chibizion 5 лет назад
I was hoping you'd get around to this eventually. I own an airbrush but since moving into an apartment that has walls thinner than tissue paper using it hasn't been an option, so having a method like this helps a lot!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@cazer3937
@cazer3937 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video vince! The amount of time you did this in😂.. Also loved the "you are the master of the model, it does not master you". Have to put that on a paper and pin it to my wall😂
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
It's words to live by. Happy to help. :)
@fabrice9890
@fabrice9890 5 лет назад
the most amazing thing about your video is that it actually works when you try it home :) I have been binge watching your quick tips and I can't thank you enough for your review of daler & rowney inks It ended a 25 years battle with white color
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That's awesome, I am glad it's helpful and always happy to assist. :)
@davidkilby1043
@davidkilby1043 5 лет назад
You are the master of the model..... outstanding attitude
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Absolutely, you just have to yell it out loud while painting. Reinforce it. ;)
@davidkilby1043
@davidkilby1043 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella i yell out loud when I am painting anyway! Lol
@ThePerplexedMind
@ThePerplexedMind 5 лет назад
I began using Zenithal as a guideline for my dark/light colors and only smooth the transitions. I only use shade paints for undersides and absolute shadows anymore. This seems like a more advanced methodology of mine. I'll try it out! cheers for your vids man.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you and happy to help as always. :)
@ededdie7333
@ededdie7333 3 года назад
Outstanding tutorial,you are great.many thanks
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Glad you liked it! :)
@crazyhippo99
@crazyhippo99 5 лет назад
great video Vince. you mention trying to get people to feel less fear about trying these techniques but from my experience the issue was and is that spending a good amount of money on a "hero" model that we want to look good causes fear in the possibility of ruining the model. I have found that my best looking painted models are the ones that i got cheap and often didnt particularly enjoy painting. i lost the fear simply because they were cheaper/didnt care much for the model. For me the other part of dont fear the painting is trusting ones own ability and accept that the outcome may not be "great" but to learn from it. The cost of the models for me personally is a big influence on this as if the model didnt cost much i dont feel i have "wasted" much in learning and improving. keep up the great work as they are fantastic.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Totally understandable, and I get it, but here is my response to all that (I talk about this in the Paint Bravely video) - What is the worst case outcome? Absolute darkest timeline where we all have goatees? The paint job is terrible and cannot be redeemed. Okay, strip it and try again.You aren't permanently changing the figure, it's still the figure. We aren't doing anything permanent here. :) The reality is though, the need to strip should be near non-existent. You try something and you fail? Okay, keep painting. I fail all the time, I try things and they don't work. I just paint over it and keep going. :)
@crazyhippo99
@crazyhippo99 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella very true , but when it comes to stripping minis there is again the fear that it will damage the figure as there is a lot of 'information' about stripping the paint off minis and everyone has certain sure fire methods, and that also leads to the fear of ruining the mini. I havent seen a video by you with regards to how you strip minis (not that you need to as your painting is and confidence is at a fantastic level) and i think that may help allay peoples fears.
@SLICK-GLN
@SLICK-GLN 5 лет назад
Great technique it conveys a lot to us experienced painters and new people.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you, happy to help as always.
@surfacetension4471
@surfacetension4471 5 лет назад
Great tutorial! I use oils a lot and this is pretty much how I put down my initial layers!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Awesome, yes, this is much closer to how traditional artists, especially 2-D oil artists would/do often work.Glad to hear I am in good company here with this technique with yourself. :)
@ClunytheScourge1
@ClunytheScourge1 3 года назад
The so-called 'base' painting you accomplish here, to me seems startlingly close to a fully layered paint scheme. A most impressive display!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
That's the idea. :) - Why do it one layer at a time when you can do it all at once. :)
@benrichardson5662
@benrichardson5662 Год назад
This kind of epitomizes why I prefer the base shade highlight method: it's consistent and fairly objective. Your method looks great, probably better than anything I'll ever do, but it's very subjective and arbitrary. As a painter (and as a person in general) I thrive on reliable, mechanistic methods. For instance I have a recipe for my Custodes I really like. It's like a mathematical function that I can feed whatever I want into and be confident I'll like the result. This sort of method causes me to suffer a short circuit.
@adamjohn3839
@adamjohn3839 5 лет назад
That was awesome. I’m a beginner painter and putting down the base layers is really hard as I mess it up and get paint on areas where it shouldn’t be. I will definitely be trying this. I did laugh when you said “I’m going a bit slower”. I don’t know how it would be possible to go any faster.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Well, when you do this enough, you get quite fast. :)
@kjiggy059
@kjiggy059 5 лет назад
You are the Bob Ross of minipainting, Vince!
@bentosan
@bentosan 5 лет назад
Bob Ross has nothing on Vince and his mastery of big massive buttcloths, it’s insane
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
That is a very high compliment, not deserved, but appreciated all the same.
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 5 лет назад
I like how you measure models in terms of their relative size to an orge. "This model is a 1.5 Larry. This model is a 2 Larry."
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Everything is multiples or fractions of Ogres, they are the universal measure to be sure.
@MySqueezingArm
@MySqueezingArm 3 года назад
As someone who is coming in from pumpkin carving/sculpting I can absolutely relate to this style of painting. Sounds weird, but with pumpkin sculpting you get all of the different shades by shaving down at different depths. If you make a mistake, go too deep, you can't really correct it. The best option is to roll with it and keep moving, blending that mistake into your piece. Your wet blending style definitely caters to this ideaology, and the results are great.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
That's awesome! I have no idea about that world, so this is awesome to learn.
@ryannelson5310
@ryannelson5310 5 лет назад
"Stop painting everything 4 times". I learned to wetblend on one of your vids some time ago. Great effect and fast. Through some force of habit I keep going back to basecoating and thin layers. Then a fig takes forever, and I get frustrated, AND it doesn't look as good as the wetblended fig. I know this is probably a repeat topic for you, but thanks for posting. Great reminder to 'paint without fear' and learn from the screwups.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yeah, I have tried to attack this from multiple angles to give people different ideas of how to integrate this into their own process. :)
@misterPloms
@misterPloms 5 лет назад
started not so long ago painting like this after watching a similar video with sam lenz and holy balls this was a game changer for me
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Awesome, yes, Sam is also a big proponent of this technique for sure. :)
@sandau44
@sandau44 5 лет назад
Great video, I really enjoyed it. I just tried this on a cloak, and to be honest, I screwed it up pretty bad haha. Some parts I wanted to be lighter stayed dark and some dark areas became much lighter than I intended. I'm a relatively new painter, so this is nothing new for me. I really like the concept of this style of painting though, and I will be able to do it well one day :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Awesome, that is the right attitude. Messing something up is the first step to being good at something. Glad it was helpful. Remember to keep your paint thick and spread it on the model, work quick and paint bravely. :)
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 5 лет назад
This looks much more fun than the old prime with airbrush, base coat with airbrush, apply the wash, tidy up after wash and then edge highlights and details which is the typical procedure with space marines painting. In fact it would be great to see someone do this style of painting on a space marine; if Bruce Lee did miniatures painting this is exactly the style of painting he would employ.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Exactly, this is such a fun process, you just get to slap paint around.:)
@jaretmoskal5558
@jaretmoskal5558 5 лет назад
I wish I had learned this sooner. It’s hard to unlearn things that have become habit
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
yes, but at the same time, it's never too late to try something new. ;)
@DamianHibbard
@DamianHibbard 5 лет назад
Thanks for this great video, this is exactly what I'm trying to learn and this helps a lot.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@fonkyjoe
@fonkyjoe 3 года назад
One thing I noticed that wasn’t verbalized (yet obvious) is having your paints on the pallet BEFORE starting. My analysis paralysis kicks in with “what should I use now” that slows me down. Embrace the Bob Ross spirit!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Yeah, you are dead on there.
@mevensen
@mevensen Год назад
That, and having a really good idea of the value sketching. I find myself slowed down by trying to figure out where the values need to change, so working this fast seems very daunting.
@peterlageri4177
@peterlageri4177 4 года назад
This is profound and I will try to see if I can find back to it: 24:00 - 24:13. Finding back to where one just paints and see what happens. Focus on the journey not the end. If every brush stroke must be perfect then one gets nowhere. Relax and enjoy the ride. I will try and take this with me.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Yep, so much of this is about finding your way as you are going. Often times the destination surprises us and that is perfectly okay. :)
@charleyedwards2121
@charleyedwards2121 2 года назад
HAAAA really "their arnt any contrast paints on the market, maybe when your watching" gd man did you ever nail that one!! ps this is the best way of painting ive ever seen, going to have to try this now
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 года назад
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
@SCA.Laurents
@SCA.Laurents 5 лет назад
This video is EXACTLY what I needed! Thanks Vince! I have one question: I finished up a Keeper of Secrets today and the large draping cloth was very difficult to paint without leaving brushstrokes. After adding additive, the paint would run even when I only added enough for the paint to level. Any tips?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thicker paint, more smoothing, less additives, bigger brush and use the side of it more. The more you "slice" the paint with a thin brush, the more likely you are to leave brush strokes. Hope that all helps.
@heikoabeyer
@heikoabeyer 4 года назад
I love You(-r approach)!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Well, thank you for both. :)
@Overdrive-19
@Overdrive-19 Год назад
This should be in the beginners playlist
@WunderBertrand
@WunderBertrand 5 лет назад
tried it yesterday on a small model and holy fuck, this changed everything o.0 thank you so much
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
@Theehtlam66
@Theehtlam66 5 лет назад
This is so cool! absolutely gonna try this out with the night haunt im working on atm. would you use a similar technique for nmm?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
You bet, in fact, stay tuned for next week and you may just see such a thing in practice. :)
@zakhoskins6404
@zakhoskins6404 5 лет назад
"Here, in the studio, in competitions, if a paint job can master you, then it is the enemy. An enemy deserves no mercy. FINISH IT!"
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Sweep the leg.
@ruberiusgadget795
@ruberiusgadget795 5 лет назад
Moin! An awesome Video, thanks for that. But this is an hard and difficult Video. Most off the showing techniques, i didnt learned at all. I think i will use the "traditionel way" to paint my miniatures. And in a few years, maybe, i can try this ;). Grettings Ruberius
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Glad it was interesting, I hope it gave you some food for thought and thanks for watching. :)
@ruberiusgadget795
@ruberiusgadget795 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella Yep, it is an inspiration and it gives me an impulse to learn more about painting and motivation for more practice :D
@manga3040
@manga3040 5 лет назад
This is awesome and just what I needed! I started the hobby when AOS first launched but have barely painted because psyched myself out too much. I finally got an airbrush and am having fun with it and have the painting bug. Helps kill every stroke has to be so perfect and right approach. Thanks for this! Also what is the color/brand of blue you used on the loin cloth part of the leg fabric?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Huldra Blue and Adriatic Blue from Scale 75, then some white and payne's grey. Glad it was helpful.:)
@manga3040
@manga3040 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella Gotcha thanks! Edit: I got off Facebook a few years ago and never looked back. Is that the only way to be a part of the PMP community? Got the painting bug now and that would be great to keep it going.
@ElderTauren
@ElderTauren 2 года назад
I'm an inexperienced painter (of any medium), but got out the paints to get a couple minis ready for a board game. I tend to watch too many videos and psych myself out before painting. I stumbled across this video and figured I'd give it a shot. I'm only 30 min into my mini, but I'm very pleased with the results. And it was the most fun I've had painting because it felt so much more relaxed with quicker results. Thank for a great video. Question: Could you use this style for painting metallic/sci-fi armor? Would you change anything up for more organic or softer materials (flesh, cloth, wood, etc) versus like colder, harder materials like metal? I hope that makes sense.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 года назад
You certainly could, you would want to glaze to smooth it out after, but it would otherwise work fine. :)
@seanfinley2069
@seanfinley2069 3 года назад
This tutorial boggles my mind. It's a lesson you'd give to someone starting from zero. But it involves a mix of feathering, wet blending, and other tricky techniques applied in rapid succession based on snap judgment. I've been painting for a few months, am not great at blending, and this looks like magic to me. Is this like watching a kid carry a conversation in French? Would I be a master blender if I'd started off just pulling colors into each others without much regard for how to put them together?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful! The key is really just getting the sense of the colors and placement over time. Once you have an idea of highlights and shadows, it's really just laying them in quickly. :) (And basically, yes, it's a great way to practice blending.)
@peterlageri4177
@peterlageri4177 3 года назад
If I were to do this with Vallejo Model Color would it be adviseable to add a drop of Vallejo Model Color Dryretarder to each drop of paint? VMC dries quite fast on me but I'd rather not have to go on out and buy a new paint range as I already have a lot of VMC.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Yep, that can make things much easier for sure.
@louislaforest7717
@louislaforest7717 5 лет назад
Great video. Very informative. Need to ask though, it almost sounds like you are reshaping the tip with your mouth, is that correct? If so are you worried about paint residue? If not, without wetting the brush, how do you keep a sharp point?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yes I was, I generally wipe the tip first on the paper towel or my thumb as you saw. You can roll the tip on wet paper towel if you don't want to eat paint, but I just eat some paint. :)
@nickwilson2097
@nickwilson2097 4 года назад
Hi Vince, any follow ups planned to this video? Like next steps after the wet blend basecoat? I discovered I really love wetblending and these paints and recently picked up the entire pro acryl line. So far I've been pretty happy with what I've done so far, but am curious what your preferred method of finishing this style of model is
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
In general, I then just refine, so place some highlights, strengthen them and then glazing shadows. So the how to Glaze video would be a good follow-up, but I do also have a follow-up planned on smoothing out and adding with the airbrush.
@chucklamb3496
@chucklamb3496 4 года назад
Vince, I enjoyed as usual. I have some advice and I want to ask you for a favor. First the advise: do you have any idea of the time, engineering, and money was used in the design of a beer bottle. How comfortable it feels to hold in your hand is no accident. I epoxy the top back on the bottle and attach models with a drop of ca glue. A blade tip pops it of when done painting. The favor: could you please do a video on painting glowing coals and fire/flames? Thank you!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
1) That's an amazingly wonderful insight. I love everything about this. 2) I have done a video on fire, but glowing coals seems like a fun one, I will add that to the list. :)
@Neighter
@Neighter 5 лет назад
Im very interested in such technique of painting, but is it possible to achive such effect with gw or vallejo paints? I remember that they dry kinda diffetently and afraid to pull coat of unfinished paint with new strokes of brush in attemts to achive blends.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
You can, but they should be thicker. Something like the Base from GW or the Model Color from Vallejo will work fine. Thinner paints are actually a bit a challenge with this.
@Erikjust
@Erikjust 5 лет назад
Question i have previously seen your snow tutorial. But i wanted to know lets say you wanted to make a diorama where maybe either a caravan or a line of people where walking through deep snow the kind that´s halfway up your shin to close to your knees, in the middle of winter. How would you create the effect of deep snow, i am especially thinking of the waves and ripples we usually see in deep snow. And what of the trench, holes? the part of the snow where the people have already walked? I could imagine it might be using some foam and either cut some holes in it or a squire trench and then apply the snowmixture with an old brush? But i don´t know.. Also since we are dealing with a lot of white here would it make the diorama more interesting to maybe add some black...ish rocks or something like that is to simulate a large rock or something poking through the snow?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
So a few thoughts. 1) I would build the base solid except where you need to place the feet (i.e I wouldn't try to build it all up with snow.) I would build up with cork or something everything up to the shins. Then I would place the snow and effects to simulate the layers. 2) Yes, the more you have breaking up the snow, in general, the better.
@thorstenrumpf1312
@thorstenrumpf1312 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I try to transition from the gw method. When youbuse shades?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Rarely, but mostly as glazes instead of washes, or with bases or when I need a very specific effect with microdetail.
@mitchcowan1446
@mitchcowan1446 5 лет назад
Ok, if there was a religious experience tied to a painting revelation, this was as close as it comes for me :) I love your ongoing series. The single biggest factor in improving my meager painting skills. Quick Q; What are you using for the wet pallet?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Redgrass wet palette. They are expensive, but worth every penny. I love it.
@gronnelg
@gronnelg 3 года назад
Hey Vince! I just wanted to let you know that of all you're videos this one has had the greatest impact on me. I would love if you could make a new video that reiterates the themes of this video.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Good call, I will think about how to update it. :)
@Goza80
@Goza80 5 лет назад
Hi Vince, I've been considering Proacryl but already own scale 75 paints, is there enough difference to make it worth trying them? I live in UK and have been reluctant to ship from US.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
They are different, I use them both interchangeably. I think that they have stock in the UK now, so you don't have to ship from the US.
@Goza80
@Goza80 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella Ok thanks for the info I'll see if I can find their stockist.
@processseer6693
@processseer6693 5 лет назад
The mechanics of this method are fast and easy I agree but the knowledge level is high. You must know about shadows, highlights, gradients and you must have experience in painting to know how to blend it together from a color theory standpoint. You did put black in the right spots of the skin to simulate the shadows of his muscles and lighter tones at the right positions where an above light source would reflect from. You know where the colors need to have hard edges separating them and where a smooth transition is right. How on earth would you know that if you were just starting out painting models? You either need talent, a good instructor or experience. Without any of those this method will fail a new painter horrendously.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
It's a fair question, and it does require a little more knowledge. My answer would be a zenithal prime will give you a sketch and if you just follow that, you will be pretty well off. Even if they just experimented, it would all be good learning (as they are looking at models and art, there are endless examples). That being said, you are correct, it's a higher learning curve, no doubt at all. It would be tougher, but I think it would be worth it. :)
@metalneanderthal
@metalneanderthal 5 лет назад
Process Seer as someone who studied art in college, you are correct sir. Someone who never has painted anything or even taken a basic drawing class would be lost in this demo. You still need to understand light and shadow, etc. just knowing how to shade in 2D with graphite would help a lot following along to this demo.
@processseer6693
@processseer6693 5 лет назад
Vince Venturella Just to be clear. I agree with you on the point that if you are to teach someone painting (as in tutoring) this would be a good way to go and in the end much more interesting to learn. Unfortunately 99.9% of all miniature painters learn by themselves based on some online tutorials or video guides. While this is leaps and bounds better than what you had 20 years ago I remain sceptical about the prospect of learning this technique here all by yourself. I think chances would be high to get frustrated. With my friends I have seen more success teaching them very simple techniques that get them fast initial results to spark their interest in learning more. And if someone wants to know more I lean back and simply send them the link to your channel. 😋
@tibo16ia
@tibo16ia 5 лет назад
Hi there, you are right. However, I never studied art, I am painting for several years according to the GW general light school of "thoughts" (base, shade, highlight, edge highlight) and I greatly enjoyed myself this way. I wanted to try to increase contrast and create atmosphere, and zenithal light or angled light it very helpful in that end. I tried to understand light, but I have to admit I am a poor observer and frankly I sucked at it. Then, as a final attempt, I tried zenithal under shading (white spray at an angle over dark primer) and it changed everything for me. Let's be honest, I still do not understand light, but I know where to highlight even through base colors. It is freeing, a bit exhilarating, quicker and fun. Let me know how it works for you. Cheers
@johnc.4871
@johnc.4871 5 лет назад
@@tibo16ia a person could paint like norman rockwell did, photograph the sceen and paint from a b&w print. some day I want to try it, but for now i try to observe the light and paint it. I think study of photography is very helpful to painting.
@eatem1978
@eatem1978 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video. Will try this out but it seems quite hard. Practice makes perfect I guess :) Is this a method you would use if you where speed painting a unit of say 12 models at the same time? Or would you just paint them one by one?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yes, this definitely requires some time and practice. That being said, it's worth it. When I am painting several models, I do this quite often, sometimes intermingled with the airbrush to set down the base coats.
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 4 года назад
This is really great, thanks for the tutorial, I have a question though and I have searched through a million comments below and not found the answer but what is this model? I'm new to wargaming.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
No issue, this would be the Demon Prince Syll'Esske (specifically it's the Syll part as they are two demons in a pair-bond relationship). You can find the figure in the Slaanesh rage from Games Workshop. :)
@MrAshutts
@MrAshutts 4 года назад
Hey Vince, I'm a little late to the party but as a fairly-new painter this video was basically a painting epiphany for me. What you did was basecoat a model 3x larger than any of my models in 20 minutes and it looks better with nicer contrast than any of my finished models that take me several hours. Consider my mind blown. Thank you for doing this video (and all your others). I do have a few quick questions about the rest of your painting process though. Since your base coat basically took you 20 minutes, how much more time would you generally spend during the refining phase? This was a character model, so I imagine much longer than normal. How about if it were just tabletop quality, or just a generic guardsman etc.? Your completed basecoat already looked great to me so what are you spending most of your time refining (beyond smoothing out blends with glazes)? It's just hard for me to visualize since your completed basecoat already looks nicer than my finished models. Thank you again. I'm watching the video again so it will really sink in.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful! :) - So from here, it's just reinforcing and refining. Adding careful contrast, cleaning up if someting isn't placed right and glazes to smooth transitions. REfine, refine, refine is basically the key.
@gamelover260
@gamelover260 3 года назад
So after that you would do like, glazes to smooth out transtiitons and such?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Exactly correct.
@await-rescue
@await-rescue 5 лет назад
Hey Vince. I tried this approach - very fun! I found it tricky to make the lightest colours look smooth - "gaps" started appearing in the paint, and after I could see a sort of texture in the paint from brush strokes. Any tips? Cheers. I was mainly using F&G colours, highlight was Moonray flesh over Cokum Copper.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
It can be a little tricky sometimes if you stretch the paint too thin. here is my best advice, you a bigger brush., You saw me using like a size 6-8 in this video, by using a bigger brush and rocking it to the side, you will have a better experience as you aren't "cutting" the paint so much. Other thought is use thicker paint, F&G is a little thinner than S75 normal paint, something like the Pro Acryl here or regular S75 will probably work better. Hope that helps.
@await-rescue
@await-rescue 5 лет назад
Vince Venturella thanks! I was using a big brush (6 I think) but I think you might be right about the paint, I wasn’t using huge amounts and it’s pretty thin, will try using regular S75
@Rosarosa106
@Rosarosa106 5 лет назад
Hey Vince! A bit of a silly question ; but is there any occasion in which you don’t zenithal prime your minis?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
When they are going to be complete and total metal (like a Knight Titan skeleton).
@2DNoodles
@2DNoodles 5 лет назад
again vince knocks it out of the park with a fanstastic video. One question tho, is there a way to get such a good zenithal prime without an airbrush? :/ ive tried the drybrush method but its not great.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Not really, but for this method, you don't need perfect, as it's not as transparent as the Glaze method. A rattlecan can do it as well (spraying white from above). That being said, there is no real replacement for the airbrush.
@chestnut493
@chestnut493 5 лет назад
Are vallejo model colour paints of suitable thickness to use this technique? You say it needs to be thicker than usual but I dont know what usual is. I understand its difficult to describe paint consistency, but do you have a picture of perhaps, some painted lines over a piece of paper with black text so we can see the translucency and "runny-ness" of the paint? Thanks Vince. Eager to give this a try, probably over a wolf or a bear first.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yep, I use this same technique with them all the time. They don't have the thickness, but the increased opacity of metal paints makes it doable.If you look back in the series a few videos, I have a TMM revisited video that uses very similar techniques.
@TheTomahawkJam
@TheTomahawkJam 4 года назад
Great video as always! Do you think you could do this on a vehicle with large flat surfaces, like a tank?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
You could, but you would want a really large brush to smooth everything out evenly.
@TheTomahawkJam
@TheTomahawkJam 4 года назад
Vince Venturella Cool, ill have to give it a try. Thank you very much for the response!
@NikoTeaJay
@NikoTeaJay 5 лет назад
Did I hear more sass than usual? :p I've been sorta bumbling towards this lately. Good to have some helpful reference material as I stumble onwards.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
There may have been a little sass, not intentionally mean, all good natured sass. :)
@NikoTeaJay
@NikoTeaJay 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella Best kind of sass
@tibo16ia
@tibo16ia 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing. It bears similarities with the style of Jeremie Bonament Teboul. If you have seen his DVD tutorials, what did you think if them? Keep fighting the grey, you are very inspirational.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
I haven't seen them, but it makes sense if he is always drawing from more traditional 2-D art styles. I will have to look into those videos. :)
@tibo16ia
@tibo16ia 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella I am biased when it comes to Jérémie BT. But I believe there is value in watching him paint. You're comment on connecting to your inner child, having fun, and not fearing a messy wet blending reminded me of his commentary. Painting as a hobby is so gripping that you might find yourself seeking perfection through recipes and methods as proxy for hours of practice. But trial and errors is so rewarding those little few time you break your walls. It is one of the many reasons I like your channel, you often try and change approaches and are kind enough to take us on your journey. It appears to be a genuine attempt to enjoy yourself and it never comes across as a lack of consistency. Thx again.
@djjc76
@djjc76 5 лет назад
I'm a beginner. Do you have the initial steps on how you primered it? It looks like you did a cool shadow effect before you began this video with basecoating. Great work, very impressive!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Sure, so that is zenithal highlighting, I have many videos on the subject, but you can find one here. - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J-dQU-dSNa8.html
@Sommeill
@Sommeill 5 лет назад
Wtf I love this style of painting flesh
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Thank you, hope this was helpful. :)
@awesomepossomable
@awesomepossomable 4 года назад
What did you use for the deeper blue on the cloak? It seemed like an ink almost
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Huldra Blue from Scale 75 and Payne's Grey. The Payne's Grey is a Daler Rowney FW ink
@Geist1
@Geist1 2 года назад
Amazing work! But where did you get that devil mini?! Love the design.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 года назад
It's Syll'Esske from Games Workshop.
@scArisen
@scArisen 5 лет назад
Is the idea behind wiping the brush on the towel to make sure the paint doesn't get thin by cleaning the brush with water? How fast will this wear out your brush?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yep, that is exactly the case and it will tear your brush up fast, hence why I use synthetic brushes for this (if you use your nice brush, just be nicer and gentle with your wiping).
@thebag1981
@thebag1981 5 лет назад
If we are not licking the brush should we be cleaning it at those points?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
As Leman says, another really good trick is to just keep your paper towel or wipey very wet. Then just wipe your brush on the wet paper towel. It's a great alternative to brush licking.
@edin6128
@edin6128 3 года назад
Which paint brand do you recommend taste-wise? Love your videos!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 года назад
Tough to say what is the best, but I know GW Shades are the worst. ;)
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 5 лет назад
Hey Vince, IIRC you've mentioned in your Product Reviews earlier that you would recommend new painters to start with something like Vallejo or Army Painter over something like Warcolors or Scale 75, which are a bit more difficult to use. Did you change your opinion?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Not broadly, but I also want to provide people an alternative. My basic recommendation would be like this. If you want to follow a more traditional route (the sort of base coat, wash, layer/highlight) most of us started with, then something like Vallejo is the way to go. If you are willing to give a more unusual method a try (in the wet blending style base coats here, then I would recommend something like Pro Acryl or Scale 75.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella Hm, I got your point. Earlier I thought that the GW way is simpler, but I have trouble figuring out where to put edge highlights and how intense they should be given that the rest of the undercoat is mostly flat colored, but your way establishes contrast all across the miniature in a much more intuitive way, so I was a bit puzzled as to which line of paints I should start with. Do these paints also work with drybrushing and artistic acrylics, by the way?
@sirbobulous
@sirbobulous 5 лет назад
Assuming I have only painted the 'traditional' way, can you think of a good model to practice this style of painting on? Also, what does 'pulling up' the paint mean?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Bones minis or the D&D minis where you can get multiple minis quite cheap are great practice minis. Pulling up the paint is when it stops blending because it's partially dried and when you move paint around, you start pulling the previous layer up completely instead of blending it.
@sirbobulous
@sirbobulous 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella I'll hunt down a few and see what I can do, thanks!
@christopherpeery7436
@christopherpeery7436 5 лет назад
Finally figured it out. You sound like Hiccup from how to train your dragon
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Wow, I have to go watch that again and see. I get Steve Buscemi a lot. :)
@goyasolidar
@goyasolidar 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella I hear Bill Hader in my head.
@Djkangaroe
@Djkangaroe 4 года назад
How much are your paints thinned in this video? If they are even thinned at all, I see lots of people use the drops straight from the pot. But then I question whether they pre-thinned them in the pot.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Nope, other than what they are getting from the wet palette, they are not thinned at all. Mainly because I want a thicker paint that I can then spread around and thin on the miniature itself.
@Boljarin
@Boljarin 4 года назад
So don't thin the paints at all? Or is it brand dependent?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
In general, you don't thin the paints at all, other than the moisture in your brush.
@jasonrhome710
@jasonrhome710 5 лет назад
The more I watch these, the more I realize my next supply run will involve shopping around for better brushes.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Well, as you saw here, I was using a pretty crappy brush, it's really more about the right brush for the right job, in this case, the larger synthetic brush. But also having nicer brushes for when you need those.
@chrisragnar1
@chrisragnar1 4 года назад
Welp that seem intimidating. Might try it on the sigmar banshes with all that cloth.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
Yep, something with a bunch of foldy cloth is really the way the go.
@PatRick-ru7qe
@PatRick-ru7qe 4 года назад
For now I've only been using citadel colours and even with retarder they dry way too fast on the miniature. Guess the dry air in a heated room in winter doesn't help either.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 4 года назад
So one thing to say here is that their base paints will do better at this than their layer paints. The layers are already naturally quite thin and dry faster.
@davidbenson1870
@davidbenson1870 5 лет назад
This one is a real eye opener...
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Glad to hear and happy to help as always. :)
@gabrielparke5087
@gabrielparke5087 5 лет назад
Do you use this technique on your smaller models as well?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yep, it's great on smaller models.
@skynetpuma
@skynetpuma 5 лет назад
Amazing video Vince!! I believe this one is my favorite so far, keep posting more about this technique please!! i remember a dvd i saw long time ago from Jeremie Bonamant , he wetblended in a similar way than you did, did you by chance learned this technique in one of his workshops? i ask because i never learned it completely from his dvd, and your video is more detailed. Please keep posting more :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Someone else mentioned that name, I honestly am not familiar. If you watch James Wappel, he also has a similar technique and is someone who inspired me (along with Bob Ross to be honest and just oil painting in general). I will certainly keep posting more as well as next steps after this.
@justinvaughan8231
@justinvaughan8231 3 года назад
@@VinceVenturella I did some mini painting with oils decades ago and I always like thick paint. You just thought me how to do it in another way. Wappel is amazing but I never his watercolour background realted to me.
@schmodizzle4465
@schmodizzle4465 5 лет назад
Cracking content as usual vince. Also , where did the pmp community go ?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
It went to Facebook, the link is in the end of month reviews.
@mdyeah3675
@mdyeah3675 5 лет назад
Would you use this technique for comp? It looks great for busting out troops.
@SquidmarMiniatures
@SquidmarMiniatures 5 лет назад
This technique is commonly used in competition pieces. The spanish painting scene use this allot. Sergio Calvo Rubio, Antonio Pena and Alfonso Giraldes to mention a few. all of these have multiple golden demons, slayer swords and/or crystal brushes :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Yep, what Squid said. I should state that each of those folks has some different takes on this technique, it's not exactly the same (and there are notable differences between them in their painting styles, but they all use something in the neighborhood of this). Competition is rarely a question of a technique, it's a question of finish and taking a miniature far enough (in addition to the artistic considerations of course).
@SquidmarMiniatures
@SquidmarMiniatures 5 лет назад
@@VinceVenturella totally agree, everyone have different brush techniques, but the whole "slabbing of colors" remains constant. I love it For my competition minis as well.
@seancook49
@seancook49 5 лет назад
How does this style of painting apply to a space marine and armor.
@kensaiix
@kensaiix 5 лет назад
you use blue tones
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 5 лет назад
Sure, you could do the exact same things I do here around the contours of the marine, in fact, it's a simpler process as it acts more like the cloth you saw here. :)
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