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HOI4: What's The Point of The Fifth Portuguese Empire? 

Bubbles Zest
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Today in Portugal the Fifth Portuguese Empire shall be proclaimed, the New State will be dismantled so that the whole nation shall be reshaped ready for the coming global conflict so that Portugal can assume it's place as a Great Power once more.
Along the way we will try to find the point to the Fifth Empire, looking at it's upsides and downsides all while we attempt to bend the world to our will, by force of arms.
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Комментарии : 62   
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest 2 года назад
The Fifth Portuguese Empire has gotten quite a lot of requests in the past. It seems to be quite popular, hence it gets a longer video so it could be explored thoroughly. Also it's nice to have a good portion devoted to being the Empire instead of mostly buildup. Schedule for future videos: May 11: I'm looking for Challenges, Guides and maybe Formable Nations to do next, so anything that fits this bill will be welcome.
@dystop_
@dystop_ 2 года назад
You should totally form the idel-ural state :) It’s an extremely fun game and very exciting, trust me :)
@aomsinzana
@aomsinzana 2 года назад
Adalusia, for maximum madness
@cudorexold
@cudorexold 2 года назад
Try and form Persia if you feel like suffering
@gabrieljoseozanan6989
@gabrieljoseozanan6989 Год назад
Hey Bubbles! You should mention how Portugal has just enough range that you can snipe the Netherlands as soon as you turn fascist, rather than going for Spain right away! Taking down the netherlands lets you take the East Indies, which are extremelly valuable, and gives you quite a nice place from where you can invade the UK, attack Germany or do a double invasion into France after taking down Belgium, depending on your plans.
@SethBennion
@SethBennion 10 месяцев назад
I have a challenge, despite being a year late. Try to form Al-Andalus... AND Arabia... in the same game! The only nation that can do this is Libya, so you'd have to set the decolonized Africa and Asia game rules, and use console commands to switch to Libya, but it would be really cool to see someone do that.
@Sir.suspicious
@Sir.suspicious 2 года назад
The fifth empire is a concept that's very present in our popular culture, its the great comeback of Portugal, not really in terms of a physical empire, but a spiritual and philosophical empire, of culture
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc 2 года назад
It isn't that much present today at all... I myself, a portuguese and someone interested in history, didn't know about this concept before I saw it in hoi4. It is a quite interesting concept. It is like taking the idea of Portugal being a catholic kingdom with the sacred mission of destroying the Muslims (os mourso, os hereges...), but taking it to the next level, saying that Portugal has the divine duty of conquering the entire world, turning it all catholic, so that Jesus can comeback or something like that (that specific religious and spiritual specific things, I don't know that well, since I am not that much into catholic and Christian theology) But yeah, it is basically this.
@miguelpadeiro762
@miguelpadeiro762 2 года назад
@@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc It's taught in school when discussing Fernando Pessoa, it's not a physical empire at all like the game points it to be, it's an idea of a spiritual empire where the world would be united by Portuguese culture peacefully. How this would happen is beyond me
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc 2 года назад
@@miguelpadeiro762 eu não me lembro de dar isso na escola. Mas talvez seja mesmo eu que apenas não me lembre, não sei
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 2 года назад
Actually, before Pessoa, the idea was popularized by Padre António Vieira and was in fact based on the military and cultural hegemony of the Portuguese empire which at his time seemed like a quite likely prospect.
@miguelpadeiro762
@miguelpadeiro762 2 года назад
@@realhawaii5o That is true, but given the game takes place in the 1930s and 1940s, I'd say Pessoa's fifth empire would overshadow that of António Vieira, which (Pessoa's) was developed after the centuries of humiliation and degradation of the Portuguese empire, which was deemed a "corpse" by the 18th century, hence the more spiritual and "peaceful" take on the fifth empire idea, last time Portufal had gone to war in 1936 was WW1, where the Portuguese operations were a stark failure in the front they fought, the western front, and the Germans also had a field trip in Mozambique But whatever, it's paradox, not graduates of Portuguese literature, regardless it's a fun idea they implemented
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 2 года назад
The fifth empire is not the fifth because it's the fifth portugal has had. The fifth empire is a concept popularized by Portuguese priest snd influential writer, Father António Vieira and popularized by the 20th century poet Fernando Pessoa. The first Empire is the Assyro-Caledonian; The second, the Persian; The third, the Greek. The fourth is the Roman. The fifth, according to Father Vieira, is the Portuguese.
@jaceritchie7948
@jaceritchie7948 Год назад
The fifth, Portuguese, Empire
@marvsky4845
@marvsky4845 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes the greek empire
@johnnyboy95101
@johnnyboy95101 2 года назад
I would have swore it was in the patch notes a long time ago that Spain would gain cores on all its stuff if it ended up puppeted in a peace deal, I could be wrong though.
@juanon_industries7256
@juanon_industries7256 Год назад
Just annex and then release as puppet
@ghostlyowl2302
@ghostlyowl2302 2 года назад
Its a niche little path, but I really like it, a country that during ww2 wasn't as big a player in the world, gets a path that's pretty much trying to conquer the world, really nice
@Elyseon
@Elyseon Год назад
Luso-Tropicalism being barred to the Fifth Empire path is dumb because the concept is culturally based, not racially, and anyone embarking on it would see those colonies and all their inhabitants as integral part of the nation.
@Syrath101
@Syrath101 2 года назад
I have been waiting to see someone make this video for a very, very, long time.
@TheSilverExperience
@TheSilverExperience 2 года назад
Can you try to get all possible cores for the imperial federation? Like New Zealand forming the Polynesian Union, South Africa forming mutapa.
@milkmessiah5192
@milkmessiah5192 2 года назад
Puppets/subjects can't form nations.
@wititorac
@wititorac 2 года назад
France gets cores from Colonies via the referendum and then gets annexed to UK vía Franco-Brittish Union.
@noahgrove3222
@noahgrove3222 Год назад
From what I've done in one game, It seems like the cores you get are the original cores the colonies have
@FishwicksREAL
@FishwicksREAL Год назад
@@noahgrove3222 which is why the formables would be necessary
@michadomeracki5910
@michadomeracki5910 2 года назад
Great video. I don't even play HOI4 (I play EU4) but watching you counquering all these countries was so cool.
@muovi2463
@muovi2463 2 года назад
You should make your indian territory a collab government and then feed it the British Raj. This way you have an India without any negative modifiers to manpower etc. that the Raj has if you just puppet it normally. You can do the same with China of course.
@AlexanderStrato
@AlexanderStrato 2 года назад
Keep on keeping on bubbles, great vid!
@BaiKaiLu
@BaiKaiLu 2 года назад
Any chance you can start uploading in 1080p please? Enjoying your content a lot, but 720p just doesn't work for my big screen :( Thanks!
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest 2 года назад
No. File Size from recordings, how long it can take to export videos and potential thereof for damage to my PC is why I chose 720p.
@MsDreamingme
@MsDreamingme 6 месяцев назад
I went for the fifth empire path for doing the Macau my day achievement
@aodhanfitzgerald1491
@aodhanfitzgerald1491 2 года назад
would it be possible to get all the cores from the franco British union and the imperial federation
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest 2 года назад
The Union is just a roll of the dice, reloading a save time and time again would suck and I don't know how good of a video it'd be.
@aodhanfitzgerald1491
@aodhanfitzgerald1491 2 года назад
@@BubblesZest I thought if you puppet France before Germany takes them it was guaranteed i could be wrong though
@yaroslavkurakov5026
@yaroslavkurakov5026 2 года назад
@@aodhanfitzgerald1491 You lose cores on France once you're at peace anyway, doesn't seem very appealing to me
@aodhanfitzgerald1491
@aodhanfitzgerald1491 2 года назад
@@yaroslavkurakov5026 oh really that’s shit
@camdencheshire7596
@camdencheshire7596 2 года назад
Can u do what is the point of making Pavel king of Poland and becoming a German puppet
@Daggz90
@Daggz90 9 месяцев назад
I'm playing this with a friend who's playing as Sweden but I think I messed it up.. I never did anything in the East and had to let go of Angola and Mozambique, but am conquering South America very slowly. Can't get my Stability back up though, no matter what I do. It's stuck at 0-1% :/
@ziomeke5580
@ziomeke5580 2 года назад
Challenge: as Falangist Spain - reclaim American colonies
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest 2 года назад
No. It would practically be a clone of this video
@ziomeke5580
@ziomeke5580 2 года назад
@@BubblesZest Ah, ok. Maybe in a few months then :)
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest 2 года назад
It''s not for me I'm afraid, you could watch Dark Buddhist's run of the Falange if you want to see it in action.
@JamesSmith-cd6rf
@JamesSmith-cd6rf 2 года назад
@@BubblesZest but how about the Spanish commune? They seem to be the least looked at of all republican branches.
@Elyseon
@Elyseon Год назад
​@@JamesSmith-cd6rfStalin's simps? Where's the fun in that?
@revan_ftw7432
@revan_ftw7432 7 месяцев назад
If I'm not mistaken it would be wise to get colonial army before you finish integrating your colonies, because the spirit gets positively modified this way
@TheVirtuosoe
@TheVirtuosoe 2 года назад
Do turan! Their compliance gain advisor makes them the best country to unify the world with
@azh698
@azh698 2 года назад
There are other countries that get compliance advisors, Turkey is a cool example.
@TheVirtuosoe
@TheVirtuosoe 2 года назад
@@azh698 I only know of bulgaria, enlighten me please, i thought turkey had the best one
@azh698
@azh698 2 года назад
@@TheVirtuosoe Bulgaria has the patriarchate which helps a lot. I think even Russia can get compliance gain through an ahistorical path, can't remember which one though.
@TheVirtuosoe
@TheVirtuosoe 2 года назад
@@azh698 you may be right about russia, couldn’t play it recently unfortunately. I think though that bulgaria is way harder to start out with. Turkey has very little internal problems at the start, decent army and navy and even some planes alongside a pretty overpowered focus tree. I can get everyone in the balkans excluding romania and albania alongside the middle east and afghanistan in 1941 and even become a part of the china war while waiting for the germans to start barbarossa. I think their potential is unmatched in singleplayer, avoiding the allies with the uk guarantee entirely. One of if not the strongest minor powers in the world easily through so much opportunity, it is very easy to become a powerhouse.
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc
@GuilhermePereira-vi6vc 2 года назад
@@azh698 I think it is supposed you create Turan with Turkey...
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 месяца назад
Isn't it obvious? It's so that Monarchist Portugal can never exist in the game 😂
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