Factor in the price differential between petrol and diesel and the diesel makes all the more sense. Also point to note, the Virtus has 5 extra litres of fuel tank capacity.
I guess if it was CVT it will be even more Efficient then the manual. also Yeah Manual Transmission and Cruise Control Makes a Huge Impact , I own a 2019 Amaze I - DTEC Manual i was able to get A tank to tank Mileage of above 30kmpl with almost 2 to 3 ltrs of fuel left in tank with 963 Kms on Trip Meter and the range was 63kms at that time . My Average Driving was 75 kms a day with almost 10 to 15 kms in normal city traffic and AC On for almost 300 to 400 kms , avg Speed Varies between 70 kmph to 90kmph at that time
I have a City eHev. My driving style has changed because of it.. especially the 250 NM torque it gives. Used to drive sedately and now have lots more fun. Yes it isn't as efficient as a diesel at highway cruising, never will be. Most of its efficiency comes from them braking. And if there's no braking, there's no energy recovered, it's only as good as any another efficient petrol. What's amazing is you can drive it with a heavy foot, having loads of fun and still get 17-18 on the highway. And in the city, it's just brilliant. Easily does 18-22 kmpl in very heavy traffic. Fun fact, in the recent Bangalore rains, i got stuck in traffic taking 3 hours to travel 6 kms. Reset the trip meter to see what it says after about a km of this. So it does 24 kmpl over a 5 km distance that took nearly 3 hours, and the AC was on full time. Because the engine was off most of the time coming on just once in a while to top up juice lost by running the AC.
Few things missed and would have added a great value to the video. 1. Refueled and manual calculation would have defined the correct mileage. 2. Are all the vehicle tank capacities the same? If not, then point 1 would have come in handy.
Agreed with point 1, but point 2 won't make sense buddy because all 3 cars have different fuel types. To say, City's capacity is 40L and Virtus' capacity is 45L, but it is obvious that Diesel is definitely more efficient than the Petrol (in this case it's a Turbo Petrol which eats fuel like anything) and the EHEV with it's hybrid technology is also really efficient. So considering the fuel tank capacity won't make much sense
Agreed. Considering all the variables, a final ₹ per kilometre calculation would have helped. Also, mention the prices of fuels used, so one can make their own calculations in the future as the prices fluctuate.
By far the best video on Zigwheels i would say. It was an absolute bliss to watch this video as a Diesel Head ❤️😍 Pretty Straight Forward tech! Thanks a lot Zigwheels team !
@@Eren-da-Jaeger Do you do that with ur car when checking efficiency? Just kidding. Honestly you shouldn't really run cars till they stutter and stop as you run the chance of damaging the fuel pump. You will also get air in your fuel lines and then will take a while for the cars to start-up again. Diesels have even more problems as they usually run higher pressure in their fuel lines.
Love the turbo diesels...Am on my 3rd turbo diesel now. Started with the 1.3ddis Swift, the 1.5 renault and now the beastly 2.0 multijet 2 on the compass. Each of these engines are gems in their own right. Creamy power delivery , lots of torque , massive cruise ability.
Well made and thought out video, the topic itself makes a lot of sense and ofcourse the diesel too. You are paying 4-5 lacs extra for a hybrid city and also compromising on boot space.!! Thanks guys, great video!! 🤘😊
I own city hybrid. And I agree with the observation regarding highway drive. If you drive with a heavy right-foot then efficiency begins to drop. But at the same time - the hybrid makes up for that with its Adas features … my fav one being it’s adaptive cruise control.
Tushar is right. Diesel makes sense even today. Diesel Cars are the OG one beast one. No hybrid or turbo petrol can beat them in terms of torque and mileage. 😤💪🏻
In this day and age, diesel is not practical for people who want to hold on to their cars for a long time. There could be leeway for petrol cars in some cities but there is no way for diesel cars.
Loved the video. Thank you. I am again happy to own a diesel Scross which gives me 26 kmpl on highways even after 52000 kms on the odo. A properly maintained diesel is actually not as polluting as it is projected to be. It's almost 19/20 between a normal petrol and diesel when it comes to CO2 emissions and other pollutants. Sad that we are being forced to let go the beauty of an engine and settle for hybrids and EVs. So if I have to let go my Scross in the near future, I will go for the Virtus. 700+ kms on a semi-performance car is hugely commendable. Fun to drive and frugal at the same time, like you guys mentioned
I truly want Indian car manufacturers to bring hybrid down to 7-8 lakh rupee price range. It'll be far better than pushing gimmicky features like auto headlamps, auto wipers, push start stop, etc.
Bhai aag laga di yaar👍 This is called Quality content👌 I give full marks to you guys 👌be it your presentation, effort, analysis, humor. All boxes checked 👍 Keep up such Excellent work 👌👌👌❤️
Biggest correction that needs to be made here is that honda has 40L fuel tank and Virtus has 45L fuel tank. Putting it this way, 15kmpl also adds upto more distance of 75kms for Virtus which doesn't make it a very good fuel efficient car as shown in the video
Cost of ownership is also important. We are not sure how these battery pack replacement cost will be in hybrid cars , because it will definitely need replacement after 6-8 years and all money saved in mileage will be taken out one time from our pockets. Need some more insight on this.
Great idea & comparison.... Really loved it... I'm with Tushar, I love turbo diesels, economy and you can have fun on highways without the guilt. But I'm not happy about diesels being eliminated one by one from market. Even at Honda it's hard to get a Diesel Amaze and even city. Plz save the diesel cars along with Tiger.
I decided to buy creta manual diesel because I drive a lot but wanted to test other cars in the 18lakhs budget. I liked City diesel a lot until I test drive salvia. Slavia was a killer man. Keeping in mind, efficiency matter most for me. I had to choose the diesels so I gave up slavia and gave up city because of some cool features in Creta and being an SUV which makes more sense to for our great Indian roads. Creta manual diesel was an overall package. I recently drove a 400 kms highway trip with an average of 23.6kmpl.
Loved this video. Nice content. Really appreciate your work. Watched entire video without fast forward. Would like to watch same among all hybrids which are there in the market.
Haahaaa ZigWheels!! Absolutely loved this video concept, keep on making videos like these, something fun and different than what other channels do.👍😊 Virtus GT is the best of both worlds, it offers amazing performance and a good mileage!
How will you compair range of these car . Because Volkswagen Virtus fuel tank is 45 litter but the Honda's have 40 litter. 5 litter less. According to your test the average millage is Honda City diesel= 20.78 City petrol = 20.65 Volkswagen Virtus = 16.33 respectively....
Bro, City's a diesel, it's obvious that Diesels are much efficient than Petrol. In this case, it is a Turbo Petrol which is a fuel-guzzler, so an extra 5L of fuel won't give the Virtus any unfair advantage! And moreover, City Ehev is a strong Hybrid. Considering the fuel tank capacity of these car's won't make any sense.
It would have been great if you filled up tank in the end and posted the real mileage figures. Exactly the power wrt to mileage the diesel is the best. In petrol/turbo petrol when we drive a little bit enthusiastically the mileage reduces a lot compared to turbo diesel/diesel. Also the diesel is 8-10rs cheaper on avg. In city traffic condition, driving diesel manual is bit easier than petrol manual. But sadly manufactures are phasing out diesel engines.
Govt is a huge issue in India. They MUST have the courage to tint diesel. Ie for commercial vehicles. Diesels should be cheaper and for PVs diesel as pricey as petrols. As of now all who buy petrols are fools. Cuz they r spending way more than sometimes the value of car after 1L kms. I can't believe how bad our Gov is in controlling fuel and its prices.
@@hirakmohanray667 I d say our governments.. We cannot pin point 1 government, almost all are equally good n squeezing taxes and using our resources to build thier private empires
Diesel is being phased out world wide in cars due to pollution and to meet new standards, amount of engineering along with cost it takes to have emissions under control is making it tough.
Great comparison with conventional fuel VS Hybrid system. Your route of travel is from Mumbai to Gujrat highway is great way of explanation testing fuel efficiency in real condition.
Its been a while That Ive been watching car review videos and this is the first time after a long time, a comparo has excited me that much. A lot of hard work and brilliant twist at the end made this one a hit!
Honda city have fuel tank capacity of 40 litres where as volkswagen virtus has 45 litres. So extra 5 litres would have definitely increased the range by 100 kms.
you guys should have done pune to Bangalore road. but loved the diesel even in that bad traffic of Mumbai. fan of diesel, still proves to beat all master of technology.
Again guys you did an amazing job love to watch video like this and that too with indian tadka. Watching same test on top gear was fun but in reality with day to day cars is much more informative. Great job!!!!
Good one! But still few information regarding the standards that needs to be followed during the tests are not given. Example: The A/c temperature set, revving limit or max speed limit, capacity of fuel tanks of each cars tested, fairly loaded weights in all the cars etc., next time dont miss these infos. kuddos.
At the end you could have topped up all the cars to the brim again and do the mileage calculations, would have been a more complete video that way. But nonetheless, it was an amazing video, enjoyed every bit of it
brilliant video; can you guys please do a rerun with the Virtus 1 liter instead of the 1.5 GT? the GT is the most powerful engine among the lot which is good for performance but not for efficiency & range. the 1 liter will be comparable with both Hondas. keep it up. one good no nonsense video
Virtus fuel tank capacity : 45 L While both honda cars : 40L They should have filled in the same number of litres for each car instead of topping them up considering VW has a bigger tank So VW : 16.1 kmpl City Hev : 20.65 kmpl City diesel : 20.75 kmpl
I bought the Vw Virtus on 23rd july 2022, completed 1700 kms till 2nd august and reported a problem to service centre when i went in for swagat check up that the car is pulling to the left. They tried to solve the problem by exchanging front tyres, got back the car, problem was not solved, reported it back on 6th august. They confessed that the car is new and they don’t have any data for wheel alignment. I was called back on 11th august, i dropped my car and back to back 3 wheel alignments were done with trials, problem was not solved i tried showing the car 3rd party wheel alignment centres and they did not have the data for the car too, until now i had completed 3400 kms, now i had a indistrial vist to ahmedabad, mumbai, pune for which i travelled 2400 kms in my car and i face severe left shoulder pain in my trip for those 10 days, now i dropped my car again and 2 wheel alignments have been done again but the problem has not been solved as i went for the trial, service centre has opened up the disk of the car( which is a technical term of vw service centre to solve the issue via company ) service centre has acknowledged the issue now, but none of have the solution for this. Now as a part of doubt i went and took a test drive of both manual and automatic 1.0 demo cars and both of them were pulling to the left, which was shocking. As a part of doubt now i went to check skoda slavia and noticed that the car has same problem, till now i drove 4 cars and reported the same problem. See i have experience of around 2 lakh kms of driving in last 10 years in which i have driven 80kms on my VW Polo, so i have not faced an issue like this before. One suggestion came in as the road bankings are made on the left side so the car pulls on the left side but them someone suggest to drive the car wrong side on the same road and if car is pulling towards the divider, opposite to the banking, then the issue is serious, i did it. This is a serious issue and i have a tremendous shoulder pain. Writing this to big car channel, so that Vw should recognise this issue. Thank you🙏🏼
@@AkashSinghGreat probem still exist. But overall the car is good, actually its a design problem, you drive any car, slavia or virtus automatic or manual they will go to the left. Leave the steering wheel and see the magic but i have found another problem after driving 65k, the seats, the arched it till the top. Which cause shoulder pain, width of seats is not enough to give side support.
@@jai9952 i am saying that this car has faulty seats, which causes shoulder pain in the long run, they have arched the seats which causes shoulder pain.
I too drive a virtus. Seats are not so great, not so bad either. But I have never felt any pulling to right or left. Initially there was a tremor over steering wheel when I drive above 70kmph, but later found that the culprit was over inflated tyres. Set it to correct pressure and all problems gone.
Absolutely loved Honda City Hybrid, Perfect Car for City Drives for daily office commutes in a crazy traffic of peak hours in and relaxing higway drives on Weekends (though highways are also crowded these days).
Loved the content... Just wish you had added the Fuel Price too in the test. . Like how cheap/costlier is to run hybrid against diesel. . Its India guys, every detail about money matters!
The mileage achieved on these cars is great.. however I doubt older cars could have achieved this kind of mileage without tall gearing and a turbo engine.. for eg even the 1.3 multijet wouldn't get you this kind of efficiency above 80 since it was never offered with a 6speed gear box. So a diesel without tall ratios would be less efficient than a hybrid.. something to think about while making the purchase decision
Now something these guys missed here. To really come to think of it, are we ever going to do this much highway driving in our day to day life? We all have to admit that most of our travel with the City, is going to be in, you guessed it right, “The City”. Be it going to work from Noida, Gurgoan or New Delhi or Bombay itself, the Hybrid makes sense any day. Bumper to Bumper traffic is what we shall encounter everyday and that’s where the Hybrid can do almost 30 Kmpl (yes more than the claimed mileage). And for those random trips you’d take once in a blue moon, a simple gap of 10kms between the diesel and Hybrid will definitely not burn your pocket.
I have 4th gen Honda City Diesel and I am not that much of a adrenaline junkie , I prefer to drive on a light foot . On long drives my car has given 27 kmpl mileage .
Guys, you missed to mention one thing. Each car has different Tank sizes, I supposed VW has largest tank compared to Hondas.. It would be good if you have given that insight as well. But nice video.. Appreciate you guys on doing this.
The review does not mention the main point. What is the fuel tank capacity in each case (full tank is a stupid measure)? What is the kmpl achieved? What is the km per rupee? What is the cost difference, and additional km needed to cover the cost?
I've booked a City Hybrid... Delivery estimated Jan 2023. (Booked it about a month and half ago). I do have a special love for diesels...have been driving various Ford diesels for the last 15yrs... But have reached a point in life where I can't handle the city traffic and the clutch is getting way to heavy for it. I do drive on highways and am usually not a very aggressive driver so in all wanted the comfort of an automatic and the efficiency of a diesel and the hybrid seems to best for the bill... However quite an expensive vehicle though
Diesel rocks all time! Please pass this video till it reaches Nitin Gadkari. Diesel is the future, I travel for 1000kms in a single stretch non stop, no electric car has that range and petrol is literally joke in terms of power and torque and mileage (combined). BS 6 Diesel engines have the same emission as Petrol engines, so that's the best step. Buy Diesel cars, save fuel, for 100km travelled Diesel cars consume around 5 liters whereas Petrol cars consume around 7+ liters. People wondering about the maintenance cost, please note its the same and the sales people hype that to sell more Petrol cars because profit margin on Petrol cars for a company is maximum due to low manufacturing cost of Petrol engine.
Excellent. Though I personally don’t like diesel, but the honesty and proficiency this video was done is commendable. These are the True automobile experts. Thank you. Thinking of taking hyryder….
Hi friends, it is really interesting comparison. Really enjoyed every discussion you people had on the way. It was superb and looking forward such videos of comparison. Thanks all of you….
my Kia Sonet diesel Manual always does 950 kms range on a tank with 100 kms range left. Despite filling the boot full of luggage and 3-4 passengers seated and steadly maintaining 100-110 kmh. I get the above range and ac on and off at times. Diesel is always frugal and meant to be on highways without burning a hole in the pocket.
This Video shows the real world out there, as they mentioned Hybrid is super cool with a long-range but we humans tend to do things our way so clearly only an Army veteran can do what it requires for 30+ KMPL or if City Hybrid is kept only for City driving hands down the best But VW group has undoubtedly given us something Honda has never dared to touch in the Indian market. I am curious to know how the upcoming Toyota Hydrider performs against these. "The Next Video"
You should have added City petrol Automatic. It’s not less than Hybrid and Diesel. Had driven from Faridabad to Indore with just one tank. Averaging around 24
Good one guys 👍👍 Very Informative and love to hear more especially on hybrid engines in coming days ✌️✌️crossed fingers and waiting to see the performance of Vitara and Hyrider performance 😊😊
I do agree with you about the diesel part but I would definitely pick petrol hybrid over a diesel if I think about it with my conscious mind! Diesel is not good for the environment.
Wow !! Amazing contest!! Love to see three hybrids contest next CITY HYBRID vs TOYOTA HYRYDER vs GRAND VITARA all strong Hybrids. Help us choose easy and better. Do love to here about performance and ride comfort inbetween too. 👍🏻
Very interesting driving experiments. 2 things Fuel tack Capacity Not declared. Fill volume of each tank during experiment. Another valuable input . Hybrid should be tested 50 % in city and 50 % highway for proof of concept
Good Work Guys..... Very thoughtful to make video on the above subject.... Was City Diesel was the winner because it was a manual variant... While the figures were very close of City Hybrid and City Diesel..... Keep it up guys.... Looking forward for more such videos...
My car runs nearly 30kms after it shows empty, it is a 3 year old i20. So instead of tapping out when it shows 0 on the dash, I suggest run it till it actually coughs as that will truly be the actual mileage of these cars ( for further guidance I suggest watching the Top Gear UK's economy run in ukraine and the black pool race ) Good Video though.
I don't know if Diesel Hybrids are possible anytime soon but after watching this video, I am going to keep my 2015 Honda City Diesel for few more years.
Virtus can do a 830km on a single tank if only the throttle is moderated. The two cyclinder mode activates on less engine load. Once activated if we engage cruise control, there will be mileage feast. I wonder if the guy on the virtus was aware of this
Even the City Diesel would give 950+ on cruise control ... Virtus is a performance oriented car, please don't suggest anyone to drive it like that.... Keep it very straightforward... If you wan't excellent efficiency alongwith power, go for diesel... For best city traffic efficiency, hybrid is the one... And performance is another name for a Slavia 1.5 manual but if you wan't comfort on a little loss of performance, 1.5 DSG Virtus/Slavia is the choice..... If you'd test efficiency of these cars at 120 kmph, diesel would be twice as efficient as the others 😂... People need to understand these things and then get a car accordingly
@@adityaroy7720 Ofcourse there is no replacement for a Diesel. All I meant was that you can get more mileage out of that Virtus purely because of the ACT tech.
