Honest Testing of the 4th Gen Tacoma - Pros & Cons 

Since we both own a 3rd gen and 4th gen. I agree on everything you said. Don’t knock until you drive the 4th gen. I did get the taco sport loaded 50k out the door. Paid no mark up and even got them to remove that $1200 gap insurance.. night and day diff. Soooooo many trolls just running their mouth without even owning either one. And the worst ones are the 3rd gen 2022-2023 owner because their butt hurt trying to justify that their newly taco is now an old dinosaur.. it’s just facts. These new taco is the shisnits.. lol

@@noxnyc23 it definitely looks promising! I'd consider the 3rd gen a dinosaur in a good way. I do enjoy it's simplicity. I don't particularly want a turbo but I understand why it's there. Looking forward to mine!

enjoy that nice rig

That motor was horrible. I'm glad they changed to the turbo

@@driftx2 The 6? The inline 4 was reliable until they added turbo.

Imagine the 2nd Gen v6 or the 5th Gen runners v6 even 👀. I don’t want a turbo… but it is the inevitable future thanks to big gov

that is the only way the 2024 would be worth buying. maybe when the rotten potato is gone, sanity will return to the EPA. until then, this is what we are stuck with.

Apparently the 4th gen transmissions are hanging overheating issues so maybe not

@@Jordan-nc3zy source? Would love to know more

@@Jordan-nc3zy oof

Excited for mine! What color you go with!

Ice Cap, looks great with the dark tint I put on. Enjoy your new ride!

Solid point for sure. My 3rd gen is garaged in New York while I finish packing my Colorado house before the final move. You can bet your britches I have several mint packs under the hood and in the cabin and numerous rat posions in that garage. Visiting my 3rd gen will be their last stop on their little rat pilgrimage.

🤔 great point!

Let’s gooo! What color you pick? If you check the channel shop I’ve already got us our maintenance trackers as well 😎

@@teamoildrop Celestial Silver with Predator drop steps and Blackout package. Will do!

@@ChubbyJontheBartender I was so close to getting silver… GREAT choice. Timeless, clean, perfect

@@ChubbyJontheBartender what do we think?

@@teamoildrop So far so good! The app has given some issues with remote start, but I really dont care about that.

Niceeee. I’ll have us all the DIY videos soon

Ya know I’m definitely warming up to it

I’ve been seeing the internet slowly accept the 4th gen more and more. I’m enjoying the early reports I trust. I believe we have a good gen ahead of us. Of course, only true time will tell.

If you are okay with the range you had in the third gen, you will have the same range in the 4th. I came from a ‘22, and not only does the new one easily meet or exceed the range of the previous truck, it’s cheaper to fill up too 😂. I’m convinced that all the haters of this truck are either just plain haters or they haven’t tried it for themselves. I liked my ‘22 a lot, but the new one is a better truck in every way. And for those complaining about the price… don’t get one that’s fully loaded! For comparison, I had a fully loaded trd OR premium with MT 3rd gen taco, the truck was just under $50K. The new one is a fairly base model trd OR with MT that was right around $44K. I wish it had the leather seats, but you don’t need em! The cloth seats are plenty comfortable. You don’t need a power tailgate! The new tailgate is light as a feather. You don’t need a tiny rear sliding window! Mine does have the 14” screen, and I’d argue whether you need that too, but it is nice 😂. Things you can get that I kind wish mine had… trail cameras (would be nice with the big screen too), front sway bar disconnect, power aux switches… that’s it! Oh, and definitely don’t get all the add on crap like side steps, spray on bed liner, and other stuff you don’t need. The truck is priced the exact same way as the previous generations accounting for inflation. Interest rates are high, so save up!

@@kevinbradley8613 I am not happy with the range in either. I usually refuel at 350 miles in my 2024 and it is already in the reserve by then. Luckily it has over 2 gallons in reserve so I can get to Costco.

BO is best color. Reminds me of the coveted spruce mice 2nd gen I had. To find a TRDOR long bed in BO… I had to hunt for months and finally found one in Wyoming. They were all pre sold. And now mine is. 4th gen videos you will get!

@@teamoildrop Tiz a very nice color. Artist approved. ;)

@@tim3308 isn’t it though? In a long bed OR trim it’s just a different truck. Dangerously sharp.

@@teamoildrop Long. The Lama is long. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NNhq7DdBAfU.html

I bet it looks great. Does the sport premium come with the black wheels or is that an extra option?

Glad it was helpful! Greg

Thanks! I do partially agree... the price increase is definitely abrupt. I take into consideration everything else in this world got more expensive in the last 4 years including the cost of manufacturing, materials, and labor. Heck, I tried to get some leaf removal for a house I am not living at yet and TWO companies without visiting my 1 acre lot quoted me off the cuff $1-1.5k... On that note, a 2022 TRD OR will still pull $38-45k with low miles EASILY according to carvana, carmax, and local ads. With a base price of a 2024 TRDOR being 43k... well, the decision is yours to make. I got everything I wanted (pretty much everything but leather for a hair under $48k when you don't count documentation and transport fees.

What do you mean they didn't fix anything on the 4th Gen ? They literally fixed -chassis rust issue and rigidity -fixed suspension comfort -added sway bar disconnect -added cameras everywhere for offroading - made the truck modular so you can customize easier -made the wheel wells easier to add bigger tires stock without mods -They improved interior comfort and modernized the Interior. -fixed the 6 speed transmission with a 10speed that doesn't search gears. -they made a 4cylinder with a commercial turbo with extra cooling added kick the crap out of the old v6. Seen a vid of a 2023 or tacoma getting destroyed by the non hybrid 4cylinder tacoma sport - they fixed so many things so please don't lie because you're biased. Be honest the only thing we don't know is the reliability of everything they've "fixed" improved on the 24 tacoma. They also made the 24 taco pro dessert racing moab ready off the dealership. They added performance air Intake and performance exhaust stock they've changed alot from last year and have alot of justification to raise prices for what they've added and the costs of covid and inflation etc. All the trucks have their negatives and positives but you cannot say the 4th gen tacoma did not fix anything from 3rd gen tacoma. Transmission alone was fixed and like I said above so much more and more that I missed. With time we will see if the fixes and changes were worth it though. I'm still nervous and wondering if I should wait until 2026.

@@canadaspy007 they still have the a/c dripping on the frame, The frame is still going to rust but now you won't see it. Let's put offset on the wheels and fender flairs on and say it's 2" wider. Weld the hitch to the frame so it drags. Say its ground clearance is more by putting spacer and larger tires on. Take two cylinders away and get the same gas mileage. The Tacoma was good looking but we have no talent like Hollywood so we'll just make a smaller version of the Tundra. Suspension was fine Seat Jackers took care of seat angle. OTT took care of the Trans. Both still suck that you can't use the rear locker in HIGH. I can with Anytime Locker. Do you know if they fixed going into 4 LOW? Why didn't they put in 4 high auto or front locker.

@@cbayless4294 Id have to disgree with this. The 4thgen wont be perfect but it damn near fixed most of the older gen issues. Almost all the major ones. Rear seating and range are still lacking but thats more a midsize truck thing. i have a 2019, which i love. Ive driven a 4th gen 3 times now. If money was no issue id trade up for for a 2025 with little fuss. Its a much nicer and more capable truck. Beefier frame, disc brakes, more payload, way more down low torque, bigger bed, more comfortable driving position. This will have way more tuning potential. With a software tune you could easily get over 300 HP/350 TQ on this engine. How is this not an improvement over the last gen? Its a complete redesign from the ground up, its going to come at a cost

@@YerBoyTroy But like you said it's not worth the extra money that 19 of yours should still make a good dent in the loan. It's a truck not a Cadillac just keep it simple. You can't reach in the bed with a 3rd gen so lets make the side higher and say it's got more cargo area. Payload is sh** compared to ford or chevy! and what maybe 2-3 hundred more over 3rd Gen. I don't have any complaints about the third gen. Has done everything I needed it to do. Stops just fine with drum brakes. If I wanted a The Tundra look I would have spent the extra 10k. Would have but didn't like the look or V6. Thank God that thing is ugly or in 22 I might have got it instead.

Wait till you see what the sued market for the late model 3rd gens are.... yikes. Often asking higher than the MSRP of a base TRDOR 2024! Enjoy that 2nd gen and thanks for the words!

@@teamoildrop That insanity has been going on since I got my '21. Like your wife my wife is not game to touch wrench on cars but she's she' considers car shopping her forte. She has taken an airplane to buy 3 or 4 cars in the family. So.... in abut in 2 days when I said, "Damn it, I'm done w/ my Frontier (her pick), I want o go back to Tacoma, she said, "Those used prices are NUTS were buying new ('21 OR Premium)" So currently I was not aware what "used" has done, that's depressing to see. All I had to do was make consistent comments while in her Subaru Outback Touring XT (Turbo 2.4 L engine - sound familar? - but it's not in amid size truck) "This damn thing has no room upfront to put anything while driving, no space for sunglasses, wallet, forget the damn iPhone." It truly does not, it's so damn unergonomic., up front. Plus giant menu screen - all touch - again, non intuitive. Now she's using this to get rid of it, dropping subtle hints. I've been pointing out nice Rav 4's "Too small, I want bigger" "For what? We are empty nesters, now" "You said there's no place to put anything" "I meant up front, not the whole damn car!" oh boy😒

Seeya brother! 👋

Thanks for watching! Greg

im curious, why does this have to be the case? Civics have been using 4 cyclinder turbos for over 10 years now, still one of the top low maintenance cars. Its a pretty slow engine (t24a in the tacoma), most of the work will be done by the gearing. How exactly is this going to be an over stressed engine? Ill argue on the price for sure, new taco is just too expensive for what it is, but from a reliability angle this doesnt seem to be a crazy complicated engine

@@YerBoyTroy some of the turbos on civics go out around 30k ,i mean if you spending 50k on a truck you shouldn't have problems except fluid changes for at least 150k

Turbo 2.0L is super common race motor, and very common in production cars. Turbos are in everything

Because of government mandates that’s why manufacturers have to add turbos on the smaller engines even if they don’t want too.

The salesman is rather incorrect. While Im not a fan of the 4cyl turbo, this engine was designed from its inception as a turbo engine. Most in the past were turbo after thoughts. Greg

Thanks brother! You’ve got a beautiful truck in army green. I will say, finding my combo was near impossible. At any given time there were no more than 3 in the nation per allocation charts… 😣

And they were always presold!

@@teamoildrop Yeah, also a bit hesitant because I still love Army Green over any '24 colors. Best of luck getting yours. We love the content of course, but if you've gotta wait for a bit to get what you want, do that all day.

@@GtfoEdaters she won’t show up until August so plenty of time 😎 coming soon, ultimate rust prevention on our trucks

I bought the 24 because I am impatient and want it for the channel. If I were you I would wait for the 25...

Don't I know it.... gonna be COLD and I will be READY

🍻 we always try

I hope so too. I am happily volunteering as a guinea pig.

@@teamoildrop Informative video (link). He interviews a gentleman who designs and test these new turbo engines. The clip in the interview on how they stress these turbo engines in testing (then even tilt engine back and forth for "oil slosh" while running the hell out of it) is a real "yikes", I would assume Toyota is doing the same: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jSheFdCs-lc.html

I have faith in toyota here. The engine is far from a brand new design nor is the 8 speed trans.

To the top 💪

The sport suspension felt similar to my 5100 setup which felt quite nice. I was also pleasantly surprised by the good noise from the engine... while it barely bled into the cabin, when you hit that ags you could hear it and it didn't sound like a whimp surprisingly

I have the mild/medium settings and always forget I have medium. Mild is great 😎

We try 🍻 I ain’t here to sell nothin but info and good times

Great question. It’s got the trademark tick sound the 3rd gen has, but it’s overall a bit quieter under the hood for me. It’s a terrible day to explain with all that wind and the camera doesn’t really capture it correctly.::

We try! Thanks Sean

And the extra protection is nie Greg

Great question. I always want to be objectively honest. I truly was not even noticing the gears shift. However, keep in mind the fastest I took it was ballpark of 55mph. No felt hesitation and it took off with ease even with my feather foot.

@@teamoildrop Dear Gawd... we all knew there were certain things Toyota was not going to go deaf ears on w/ feedback on 3rd Gen - Gear hunting and dog slow acceleration. This carries from every RU-vid reviewer. Issues/questions are 1. engine reliability (this is Toyota hallmark - lot off clicks out there that this is sliding?) - see Tundra recall - metal in engine from factory - its' a BS cover up by Toyota - Toyota mechanic on RU-vid explained it was engine getting hot , etc something like that and stuff coming loose - not good. Tundra is Toyota's guinea pig somewhat for Tacoma , and psst they use Lexus too as that - owners pay big money and don't hang on to them as long - Toyota obviously knows this. Then they pass what they learned on to Tacoma. 2. Price.. but market forces and fierce competition that 3rd gen didn't have as much, looks like that will be trending down..? Toyota still started off too high IMO (did not pass Mexico savings on to Joe consumer aka Tyler aka "no wimp"). It was off putting to many in cheese grits brains regime economy. If Trump actually wins to over come the mail in fraud that is coming (or trying to jail him 24/7 for mattress tag removing - wow, what happen to this country), will he quickly slap tariffs on the Mexican Tacos (I would, and he has in the past)? Tyler, how did the "sport" mode feel from "normal" - notice much? Fun,good video as always. Your dad is in fighting shape! I like how the camera didn't bother him. I also liked his "Dwight Schrute" grabbing, tapping, pulling on things ;)

@@tim3308 ya know, if you look at a 22 or 23 TRDOR on carvana, or local ads they push well past 45k even with low miles. The 3rd gen prices have raised to reflect the 4th gen base price. I don't expect the 2025 to be cheaper, but only raise maybe $100 per trim to save face. And yah, dad is in quite good shape for near 70! Hes a good sport at these things.

@@tim3308 Hope all is well!

I just bought a '22 TRD Sport premium with 25k miles that's basically in brand new condition for 36k and it came with a lifetime powertrain warranty. I'm pretty happy with the deal I got ​@@teamoildrop

Nothings making me part with my 2016 DCLB 😎

A neat feature for sure

Thanks! Yah this was impromptu

Your taco will always be king brother 👑 I love that ride

Welcome to the team brother and nice truck. What was a couple of your biggest complaints of the 3rd gen? Mine was it's outright gutless (pre-tune) behavior.

It’s the need to meet EPA standards. Getting more strict year after year.

@@3GFinn Technically, they can do what they want - it's the "bribe" checks aka incentives for them to comply. Obviously Nissan bet different. V6, no turbo.

@@tim3308 oh well. I’m happy with my 3rd gen haha.

Mmhmm, I corrected that below in the video. Most sports and ORs I’ve seen on allocation seem to be coming with it by default

🍻 😌

Theyve done a lot of good things for sure... price is high but the used market for 3rd gens is TERRIBLE for buyers....

you know my thoughts lol! I will drive that 4th gen POS like the guinea pig I am!

They run trial balloons on the Tundra first, then they move to Tacoma. But Tundra, 4Runner, and Tacoma now all look like very close family - for good or bad - as usual, the bulkier Tundra is now the uglier brother. - grille is semi-awful - dear Lord especially the all chrome ones - like a smiling 8th grader w/ braces on every tooth.

@@tim3308 I cannot unsee it

2016 and a few miles short of 100k. Never a hiccup 😎

A fair point, certainly a valid one Greg

Genius 🧠

You are not kidding.. it was odd at first... but not gonna lie.. I kinda like it now

I just find it rough having all that light in my face even on low brightness driving at night

@@macabo I coulda see that. Prob one quick button turns the screen off. Or maybe you opt for the 8”?

Look at y’all changing my mind 😆

Which part??

Excited for mine

Are you crazy?

If you are asking about earlier Tacoma wheels, they won't fit. The bolt pattern is different. Greg

Thanks brother 🍻

You’re talkin to the owner of flawless 2016 brother! I’m y’all’s guinea pig 😎

You're a lucky one. not the norm.

@@teamoildrop I'm reminded of the Kia Telluride. Everyone and their mother wanted one of those when they first appeared and now they are recalling close to half a million and advising people not to park it in an enclosed space due to fire concerns.

@@vario2664 Guinea pig 🙋‍♂️

Facts. Would love this too.

If all the early reports are honest, not much. I’d rather them be made in the US of course but I understand why.

Yah it’s definitely big and will take some getting used to that’s for sure!

Man the screen doesn’t bother me at all while driving and it’s actually so nice to have it there. Helps so much with google maps. Besides that, the girls on next seat love it too…😀

@@jpg1789 🌮 get 🐥 with 📺

@@teamoildrop exactly!!😂 man I had a gen 3 and just can’t compare how much better is to drive the 4th. May the 4th be with us.

@@jpg1789 I hear mostly good! Can’t wait for mine 😎

Thise sparks are RIGHT THERE... I love it! Yes, definitely no reason to jump ship with a nice truck like that 2018.

We are babies, duh 👶 👋

Which part??

They are nice to have. crack the top and get some fresh air in without having the windows cracked down. If doing a lot of rock crawling or real off-roading then your right. If your worried about the crash testing in vehicles you might want to start thinking about taking the bus or light rail.

This just isn't the case. The roof has a great deal more structure. It isn't just a hole cut and the moonroof installed. Just like convertible model cars, the bodies are stiffer due to the added reinforcements. Greg

We’ve heard!

TRDOR starts at 43. I got everything I wanted but leather for a hair under 49. But you can definitely build them to be pricier if you try.

You fooled yourself by skipping around. Watch that scene again starting with how I situate the front seat for myself first 🤦‍♂️

I’ll help you out 7:30

It's quiet as compared to the 3rd Gen 3.5L Greg

😆 well I dont know about that but the design definitely grew on me. Look up a TRDOR long bed in bronze oxide 👀

Solid input brother 😎

Many have stated to avoid buying the 1st year of a model redesign. Greg

“Throwaway vehicle” 😆 that’s a good one! I’ll be keeping my first year 3rd gen as well