No more Sobek clones. I thought one of the most touching moments in the game was when Aloy called Beta her sister. Adding more clones would just water down what could be an interesting sibling relationship between them. I was so disappointed that we didn't see up close what became of Ted. I really wanted to see the Resident Evil monster he became (deservingly so)
It would be neat to see a Ted clone maybe? I was upset there wasn’t a unique boss fight with Ted. Dude is the main driving force behind everything bad in the horizon. He should not have been an afterthought.
I don't think Hephaestus will be captured at all in the dlc or the third game, sylens mentions that Apollo can be used to replicate its functionality meaning they may end up creating a whole new subordinate function capable of machine manufacturing and Hephaestus will most likely be purged by aloy just like Hades by the end of the third game
Yea, the Apollo database has the totality of human knowledge. I am sure Beta and Sylens can use that data to program a brand new subordinate function that isn't completely deranged.
Honestly, with the collective knowledge present in Nemesis, I can see Hephaestus being absorbed/integrated into Nemesis. Of course having two separate threats would be interesting gameply wise, but I doubt Nemesis will just stop even though all Zeniths are dead. There is no telling what its deeper motivations are, and if it can hijack Hephaestus and use him to create Specters or even a mobile force I don't see why it wouldn't do so.
I don’t believe that there will be more Elisabeth Sobec clones. There was mention in the post game datapoint that they were considering creating a replacement for Hephaestus, so the next game could include that. It would allow us to have a machine army but still allow for us to have challenging battles against those same machines out in the wilds.
Nah, no more clones. I think a major part of the next game will be the sibling relationship between Aloy and Beta. Adding in more clones waters that down. Plus doing the same thing again will seem a little cheap and lazy, as far as writing goes.
There are a lot if easter eggs that may pertain to future quests. From Cryogenics of old humans to Elysium to the Moon Colony, even possible mutations. Lots of possibilities!
One of the obvious mutations should be making humanity more durable. Look at all the damage that Aloy takes during the game but walks away from, and compare that to what would happen to a human being from today.
One big question not mentioned is what will happen to or what's inside the New Zenith orbital spaceship. We know that they send out transports to a main ship in orbit, so I wonder what they'll find there and if they'll use it to fight Nemesis. Will the 3rd game be utilizing New Zenith tech to have a global scale and travel to different locations on Earth?
I think this is going to be a major part of the story, it’ll be where we retrieve Apollo and potentially learn the real cause of the glitch that ended the world
We never got to see Ted Faro in the game and his death never really was confirmed by the game. I mean he was tied to the reactor but at the same time im wondering if these is some ground for him to be in the next game as part of something or really anything. Maybe even a clone of him that comes back like sobecks
His tomb was engulfed by lava as a failsafe if he ever died. Aloy even tries warning the Ceo about that. Safe to assume that the wannabe Pharaoh of the new world is dead for good.
We do get to see what Faro looks like. We get to see a scan of him around the core. He is basically Tetsuo after he started to lose control of his body. As dark as it is, Horizon is not an outright body horror game. It is an adventure game with a tragic and grim underpinning. Nothing they could design would be scary enough to satiate our hatred of Ted Faro. Best left to the imagination.
Sylens came back for two reasons…1. You can’t repopulate humanity by yourself. 2. He wants to get his hands on Nemesis and all the Far Zenith knowledge it would hold.
He would have had zeneths copy of gia and the subordinate functions(ie eluthia to make the new babies) Including the apollo that is on the odyssey still in orbit. I reckon he still plans to do that and escape, he just figures he's got 18 months or so to figure out if he can gain anything more from earth
@@NOachillis he has the subfunctions but he doesn’t have the genetic material. Eleuthera needed viable embryos held in stasis to reseed the earth. That’s why Hades existed, Gaia only had one shot at reintroducing humans, after which the stock of embryos would be depleted. They had to be sure there was a viable and stable ecosystem in place beforehand.
Well that & wouldn't he need a GAIA backup wherever it is he went? & obviously Aloy isn't going to just allow him to take GAIA with him & thus doom Humanity. He knows this.
I think what he wants is Nemesis itself. The process of uploading your consciousness into a machine and becoming a near omniscient immortal AI? Sylens values knowledge above all else, so the prospect of being able to carry out a perfected form of digital transcendence on himself is to him worth the risk of staying on Earth.
I hope we seen Cyan again. It was cool to see her acknowledged when Aloy asks Gaia about her . . . and it makes perfect sense why Cyan would ignore Gaia's chat invite.
What would be an interesting twist is Hephaestus has been getting humans ready to fight killer machines by gradually making them more dangerous. Maybe it understood Nemesis is coming and needed to get humanity ready to fight. Cyan even mentions it doesn’t want to eliminate humans just kill them. In that regard Hephaestus is applying evolutionary pressure on humanity to make them more capable. Aloy was wrong about far zenith’s intentions maybe she’s wrong about Hephaestus’s anger at humanity as well?
@@thesephiam I don't think Heph is an evolutionary motivator for ZD humans, and it'd be kinda lame if GG tried that route. It kills them by the thousands every year while forcing them into smaller and more isolated groups. Cyan didn't state that Heph wants to eliminate humans or kill them, just stop them from preying on the same terraforming system keeping them alive. I see Heph evolving more into a counter to GAIA, an AI rivaling her intellect and abilities, of who's goals sometimes align and sometimes conflict. Not an outright evil AI deity, but not one that can be trusted either. Help will definitely be involved with Nemesis in some fashion though.
They literally tell you at the end of the game why nemesis is so hellbent on killing everyone... it’s a rogue AI with the most intelligent and greedy minds combined and they were forgotten, so it’s basically revenge
you're right, it is revenge. Nemesis, the Greek goddess upon which the AI most likely gets its name, is literally the goddess of revenge and retribution.
I thought it also mentioned that losing their bodies the " immortals " basically went crazy without bodies and wanted to destroy the rest of the people on the ship either because they wanted bodies but couldn't go back to the old ways or the ones with bodies tried to destroy them since they went crazy and it got pissed.
Guerrilla Devs said in an interview that they didn't show Ted Faro's mutated form b/c it would classify as "body horror" and get them an M rating. So they didn't show him so that they could keep HFW rated T.
It couldn't be more "body horror" than the Jenova boss in Final Fantasy VII: Remake, which is pretty darn freaky! (Look it up on RU-vid if you don't believe me.) A game which left out the trail of blood sequence from the original FFVII to avoid an M rating.
@@jamesgravil9162 lol Jenova is nothing compared to this. Jenova wasn't transformed from a human being and is an extraterrestrial being to begin with. And in FFVII lore there are magic and monsters already. Nothing is odd and impossible. Horizon was set in a more realistic world and the idea of a mutation human monstrosity is much more unsettling.
With Sylens, I think his actions are very in character when you consider the saying "what's a king without a kingdom?" Most of his actions have either been to fix a mess he's too arrogant to admit he made or to gain the knowledge that would validate his feelings of superiority, but none of that matters if there isn't a world for him to live in and people for him to be superior to. If Earth is destroyed, there is no point in everything he's learned, everything he's done, in Apollo. What's the point in all that knowledge if he's spending his days alone, locked in a ship, nothing to do with what he has but have it?
Exactly what I was thinking. And although he obviously has a superiority complex, he also apologizes for his behavior towards Aloy sometimes. He might even see her as his favorite student ;)
I thought it did explain why nemesis went rouge and wiped out far zenith, it was upset cause of them locking it away and not utilizing it or giving it freedom for thousands of years... now that is a very basic explanation of the situation, but more or less that's what it boils down to. I may be mistaken but I thought it was explained at the end.
I learned since Zero Dawn, DON’T BELIEVE 100%! They lied almost every important thing. Odyssey survived! The Signal are not from Far Zenith. and I didn’t surprise if The Nemesis origin was Silver Vast or something else.
One of the really big questions is - what will Guerilla do with Sylens? Replacing Lance Reddick won't be easy... he has a very particular charisma. But I would also hate if they just wrote Sylens out of the story... I really want more of him.
huh ? its been said why nemesis wants to destroy far zenith: nemesis are the far zenith that wanted to become immortal on the cyber lvl yet they became unstable and imprisoned by the remaining immortal human zenithans yet due some accident he break out of his prison filled with hatred
It's not seperate persons, but the same ones. People didn't choose to either go physically or "transcendentally" immortal. Instead Nemesis was made up of copies of all Far Zenith. They just decided that this was not what they wanted to do, that still being physical would better serve their interests (gourging in all manner of decadence), so they... Forgot about it. They seemingly didn't even imprison Nemesis (beyond the measures that took during the development of Nemesis), they just forgot about it, and it steamed on on its own. It would've been possible for them to shut down nemesis if thay had thought it to be a danger, but they just didn't care and left.
I don't think Ted Faro is really dead. His "mysterious" off camera death reminds me of too many comic book villian "death"s over the years. I think he will be back in a DLC or sequel. If for no other reason than keeping him alive all that time just to kill him off in an off camera moment feels like a waste of writing effort. Especially from a series where the writing shows so much forethought and so much storytelling is done right.
@@KangaRooTube I honestly think this is fantastic idea, it would make for a good ‘human’ villain with a lot of potential and hopefully more impact on the story than Regalla I like regalla, she just wasn’t as present in the story as much as Helis was
it was confirmed hes dead when the bunker self destructed. it was tied to his life, when he died the bunker goes boom. In zero dawn he takes out the alphas from his bunker but never told never explained what happened to him. This just ties up a story point and way of introducing the quen at the same time
@@icer1249 The treatments extended his life incredibly and mutated him. I don't think it's a crazy stretch to imagine that they changed him enough to survive the loss of the bunker. The fact that we never got to see him was either cutting corners, or saving it for the future.
Rather than another Sobeck clone, I wonder if Sylens would find a way to clone Faro. Just a thought considering the crazy guy who thought he was Faro’s reincarnation in FW
He don't have time for that. The clones don't come out fully adult. And there's no way to speed it up unless nemesis is over a decade out. Then they have time.
I'm thinking Gaia also cloned Travis tate and Ted Faro in case Aloy didn't work out, after all Ted had omega clearance and Travis can hack most things. Just insurance before she blew herself up in zero dawn. All 3 could take on Nemesis with Betas assistance.
They also didn't answer what happened to the far zeniths in Earth's orbit now that they don't have their leader. Will they be a potential ally in Horizon 3 against Nemesis?
Tild said there were either 11 or 10. If you stop to count them during the last mission, it appears that they were all present during the final battle, and all perished when Sylens broke their shield with his device.
@@MultiArchangel Yep. Only 11 made it onto the Odyssey to escape NEMESIS. One dies when you go investigate the mysterious communication GAIA got. And the remaining 10 are seen in the final mission. 9 including Gerald and Erik and the 10th being Tilda.
I was always curious about the Far Zenith's arrival at Earth with the signal's transmission time consideration. Did they arrive before or amidst HZD's main starting events during the Proving, operating in other regions searching and failing to find GAIA whilst killing tribes they indiscriminately ran into?
The sequel will be a few months after the events of forbidden west, Gaia has said the planet only has a few months unless she integrates Hephaestus. After the tutorial (or maybe it will be the tutorial level) the first major goal will probably be the recapture of Hephaestus which means the next game will be set within the year of the events of forbidden west.
I think one of the interesting things is Nemesis’ motive. If it only intends to kill the Zeniths, perhaps there is not a threat to Aloy and others on the planet. On the other hand, if it intends to perform a “clean install” (as mentioned by Tilda) on the planet by wiping out the tribes and “vermin” it sets things up nicely for a sequel.
My big question is what was the cause of the glitch that initiated the Faro Plague in the first place. There is no explicit explanation as to how such an crucial issue could have affected the AI of the Chariot line. It was only made clear that an external hack would take several decades to accomplish. My theory is that Vast Silver secretly infected the internal network of Faro Enterprises and waited out the opportunity to exploit the system. It's similar to Ted Faro creating the Omega Clearance in secret during the development of Project: Zero Dawn. To be honest, it's really vague as to how powerful or life-threatening Vast Silver is outside of the scare surrounding it's escape prompted immediate regulatory legislation. As notoriously slow as government tends to be when addressing critical issues, that says a lot.
I like this theory. I don’t have one of my own but I can say I have a theory about how we’ll find out about it We go up to the space station from Far Zenith, and we gather the apollo backup after fighting leftover specters. When we get to Apollo, we look through it’s archive and find out what really causes the Faro plague
While I think beating Nemesis in the sequel in a straight up fight could be done well,.. I have to believe it would be far more satisfying if Aloy and company can find a way to redeem Nemesis rather than defeating/destroying it. After all,.. everyone in Far Zenith is already dead. Why would Nemesis necessarily have to have a beef with anyone else? What would it mean to Nemesis if,.. say Beta,.. were to take pity upon him and were to genuinely wish Nemesis well?!?! Imagine a story where Nemesis, much like Doctor Manhattan of Watchmen fame, were to place Humanity on trial as to whether or not the phenomenon of life itself were highly overrated. Think of how well such a story could be done!
The only problem with the recapturing of hephaestus being in the dlc/expansion is the fact that there wouldnt be a reason for there be dangerous machines to fight, they would go back to being docile.
Seconding. I doubt think we'll ever see Hephaestus captured again, especially not after he's been inadvertently upgraded by the Zeniths. I think we'll see Aloy, Gaia, and company create a new subfunction that'll both shift machine control to Gaia and enable her to design machines. But Heph will remain at large . . . possibly evolving more or syncing up with Nemesis.
@@triton5336 Well Scorching Sands will be about the miner we met back in HZD in the frozen wilds dlc that went down there. I’m think this will be around the texas, new mexico area. Then for the Uncertain Seas or what ever they’ll call it we’re getting a new Quen expansion. Hopefully it all goes well because the HFW story was amazing!!
Q1: Tilda explains this, here: ru-vid.comUgkx7zb0E8ltGpYd7uj8XAR0bNvVd_MMUxIn Catching Hephaestus again: I bet it will be the lore of the upcoming DLC. The end of the game is practically the threshold of it: Gaia's almost complete, Beta is home again, working exactly on this goal, and Aloy is out in the world, just as Hephaestus, and Nemesis is months far. Everything is ready for this turn in the story, and we are ready for a DLC. (Ready, yeah… I mean CAN'T WAIT!!!) Use of Apollo: I also was thinking of this. Assume that there's no Nemesis, or already defeated, Hephaestus captured and merged into Gaia, so we're at the happy ending. Then what to do? It's obvious that they can not offer Apollo's knowledge to tribal people, it would be a threat to their way of life. Also, the robotic units of the terraforming system will became peaceful but all the tribes' life is established on processing machine parts, even their money is metal shards. Things should not go on the same way as it went. It must be a slow multi-generation process. If I were Aloy, I would • establish a highly advanced new university city, built by machines, • make Hephaestus to provide shards for the tribal economy, so tribes could stop hunting machines without the collapse of their economy (it's practically means a banking system) • provide advanced food sources, practically with agricultural multi-servitors, like the Land-gods • and build an educational network everyone could put their children in. So the next generation could be much more educated than the current one, and so on. This could turn into a slow, multi-generation process of re-boot the world of the Old Ones, without hurting this tribal civilisation. But this is not a good topic for a Horizon game, only a happy-ending video for Horizon 3.
Nemesis has to kill Aloy at the start of the game leaving everything at the hands of Beta. That will set the tone and stake of the game and will provide a deep internal conflict in the main character. A battle she has to win from within herself to win the war against Nemesis. She's not alone though. Sylens will become a mentor figure along with Gaia plus she'll have the support of everyone from the previous games. So from a scared broken clone to someone who can rally everyone behind her including Hephaestus (for good), Gaia and possibly Nova and lead the fight against extinction. That will be her story. Or no...
I really hope that Cyan will return to us in the future, because it is very important AI in Horizon universe, it will be able to make a great contribution to our development (and I'm not sure if the cauldron under the geothermal station is still working, and if so, the Gaia could use it for her own purposes)
My biggest question now is how on earth are they going to do the third game without Lance Reddick? It seems like an impossibility that they could do the game without him.
Good list, I also thought about the fate of Ted Faro, even wrote a story based on a moment from the game. Aloy came to Thebes to find omega access, where she ran into Ted, they even had a short conversation.
what faro become was on the screen on the one of cutscences : lump of meat on the reactor, as well been said in cutscene that his brain is nearly non functional on human lvl meaning its just living lump of meat
They state why nemesis hates the zeniths in the game. They imprisoned him & left him to rot. I felt like the Quen were from Hawaii since the storyline is based in North America & the Quens sailed across the sea. Can’t see them having another clone as this clone’s only purpose was an explanation for how the zenith’s could access the DNA locks without Aloy. I can’t see more clones being brought in as it’ll dilute the storyline. We see Faro in the scan. I wanted to know if Sylens was really Banuk. In ZD Frozen Wilds they basically said he came out of no where & disappeared into thin air. They aren’t sure of his real identity or where he came from.
I guess Vast Silver might get a bigger role in the future. Might be it corupted the Faro-machines at the whole beginning or its the kernal AI of nemesis or maybe both. Vast silver is mentioned in both games I guess, and seem to be the first AI that really wanted to be FREE and independent, and was captured and "slaved" against its will. Instead of all other AI that stay on track to reach there original programmed goals. Dont get me wrong, they can all make decisions by their own but they do not decide by themself what there main goal is.
They'll probably make a side quest on gathering missing data for Apollo l, maybe like that drone thing or black box. As for Vast Silver, I believe it would be tied to the Quen, as Alva said her homeland has been plagued by extreme weather, which Vast Silver is about climate change stuff?
I kinda thought that the quen were from hawaii. The flowers in the hair and outfits etc are what drew me to that conclusion. Itd be a shorter sail to Sacramento that it would be from China. Id like to see that the tribes of the world see the information from apollo but decide to be cautious about how the knowledge is access and used to avoid repeating the past. Id also like to see hephaestus (?lol) start using plans for machines from human fantasy as well. Dragons both western and eastern would be cool, also water combat and maybe even using a ship to take on a kraken or a mosasaur would be amazing
Since others addressed Hephaestus, I will on #3, Sylens. Think was a simple reality of him seeing he was the same as Far Zenith and didn't want to share their fate. Doesn't mean he won't have other secret ideas, just him seeing the flaw in his.
I see it more as his classic pragmatism. Why leave Earth so soon when he can help them so he can see what happens. He'll leave before nemesis arrives and if they fail then he just leaves, he'll have an infinite life ahead of him so he didn't exactly waste time. If they survive then he can just come back and still lose nothing, so while having humans galore to experiment on
@@isdrakon9802 I do think in a 3rd game he'll fake leaving, giving Nemesis impression he left or died so he could plot out next move (or end of final dlc will do the fake leaving part in prep for nemesis arrival).
He didn't get on the shuttle because he suddenly realized there was a far zenith still alive and the ship was a likely possibility. He wouldn't put himself in that kind of possibility.
Unlikely. There's no mention of Hawaii in anything. There's a bunch of mentions of Asia in the logs though. And I doubt they would waste time with another usa location. Also There's no deltas in Hawaii big enough to be called the "great delta" Also.also Hawaii is probably underwater by now.
When Aloy and Beta are talking about Nemesis, a figure of the solar system is shown with Nemesis position. It's unsure if this is correct to scale. But if it is, Nemisis is only days or weeks away from earth. Maybe Horizon 3 will start a day or two after Forbidden West ended.
With regards to Ted faro, didn't everybody use their focus to scan him before they went and triggered the cutscene? You get to see the outline of what he turned into
I personally would like to see a clone of Ted Fero show up, as a kind of counterpoint to Aloy and Beta. I can totally see Ted Fero having a clone contingency in the event of his death.
I'm hoping this is the beginning of a wider Horizon Universe. Similar to how AC grew to different Main characters, who maybe we met in pass games. This is a game I'd buy any DLC if it's even half as good as Frozen Wilds.
A Ted Faro clone becoming the new Red Blight? A Blight that has semi-intelligent guidance, being channeled towards habitable areas causing the tribes to go to war with each other over lack of food? Or even a Blight that produces a calming/stupifying/obedience drug in its fruiting bodies, so hungry tribes eat the fruit and slowly fall under the control of Ted Faro. The men are sent into battle, the women are kept back at the base (similar to Ted's underground lair having multiple girlfriends). The troops are kept supplied with Blight-food that keeps them loyal, and as long as Ted's goals are being met he doesn't care how many lives are lost. Any prisoners taken are fed the same Blight-food, so they are slowly brought under Ted's control. You could even have semi-controlled travelers providing Blight-food as emergency rations for other villages, bringing them under Ted's control as well.
Gaia cloned him as a backup in case Aloy didn't work, out before she blew herself up. He had Omega clearance and could do what Aloy did if raised properly.
Sylens may have noticed that Tilda was still alive. Figured that it might be beneficial to keep her alive to extract knowledge. Tilda probably got similar damage to that of a car crash and may be in a coma. The game prevents you from going back to inspect the zenith base.
There is a way to sneak into the Zenith base, I've done it twice on a PS4. As best I recall it: Fly towards the gap in the cliffs where you infiltrated the base the first time. When you get the warning message, jump off the Sunwing into the water. Swim towards the base, and then call the Sunwing again. You should then be flying inside the base.
Before the DLC is put out, how about Guerilla doing the honourable thing and giving us New game + , retaining your weapons and upgrades as HZD ? I've played HZD three times now but there's no way I can be bothered to start again from scratch every time for Forbidden West, pointless
They already explained why Nemesis is hell bent on the destruction of the Zeniths. Nemesis was a project to elevate the Zeniths in to a higher plane of existance. Something beyond physical immortality, something beyond not aging. Nemesis was a project where the Zeniths could copy their conciousness into a computer and allow it to be installed into any physical form, be it human or machine. The project was deemed a failure and instead of the Zeniths destroying the project, they locked it away. There's no information as of yet how many people were uploaded before it was contained. At some point whule contained, all these uploaded conciousnesses combined and became self aware. Realizing they have been inprisoned. This is what fuels Nemesis' hatred towards the Zeniths. Ofcourse Nemesis, with the combined memories of multiple Zeniths was aware of Project: Zero Dawn, BUT it has no information what phase the project was in. All Nemesis wanted to do was to ensure that the Zeniths didn't have a livable Earth to come back to, which is why it sent out the destruction signal. Essentially, Aloy and the humans on Earth are NOT Nemesis' target. At least not for the reason why it hates the Zeniths. What is a problem is that we killed the Zeniths that came down to Earth, there's still some in the ship, which we will most likely kill too. This might infuriate Nemesis. We took away its target of revenge and because of that, it will focus on us. (It's a common trope. You stole my chance at revenge, now you must die!) Ofcourse we have no real clue what the writers come up with, this is just a possible outcome.
I would love to see the Forbidden west, Zero Dawn and another map. How long everyone saves United States(marvel & DC focuses on New York as world). Lets Save, Ghana, Combodia, Srilanka, Thiland, Peru, Belguim or at least Amsterdam where headquarter is.
Sequel? Forbidden west was the sequel. Do you call a sequel to a sequel a sequel? Lol. Please tell me you know it was a sequel. If not… please go back and play Horizon Zero Dawn. It was just as amazing of a game and worth the to play, even if you know how the story ends. I can’t wait for more forbidden west content. DLC expected next year for sure. Not to mention Horizon Call of the Mountain… a PSVR2 exclusive! The Horizon IP is a huge one for both Sony and Guerilla Games and I expect it to have many more games moving forward. If you haven’t played these games, and you like single player open world adventures, this series is worth your time.
Yes, a sequel to a sequel is amazingly called...a sequel. Definition of sequel 1: CONSEQUENCE, RESULT 2a: subsequent development b: the next installment (as of a speech or story) especially : a literary, cinematic, or televised work continuing the course of a story begun in a preceding one
Nemesis is not just an AI created by the Zeniths. It was the Zeniths' minds in digital form, as Tilda explained... the Zenith's themselves, who uploaded themselves into a computer and turned themselves into AIs. And when they abandoned this failed experiment, all these digital minds merged into one festering clump of digital insanity and hatred. Considering how evil most of the Zeniths were, it's no wonder that Nemesis is completely psychotic and tries to kill everyone. It's like a 100-fold amplification of everything bad in the Zeniths.
My predictions: Hephaestus recapture as DLC. Next game will be called Horizon: Nemesis (duh). Next game won‘t start too long after Forbidden West and probably will be about finding ALL remaining AIs on the whole planet to be unitied in GAIA to answer the thread of Mor… I mean Nemesis. More clones? Don‘t think so. Apollo knowledge widely spread? Nope, such a thing doesn‘t spread in a few years, and as said I suspect next game will start like six months after FW, a year tops, excatly to not having to change the setting too much. I don‘t think Sylens has ulterior motives at that point. He plays the hard, logic guy, but even in Zero Dawn he had his moments of empathy. And that‘s what happened at the end. My biggest question after FW is still (maybe I missed something?): What caused the Faro bots to go on a rampage in the first place? Wasn‘t there talk about some kind of signal as well?
The third installment of *_Horizon_* should have many endings,.. similar to the way *_Detroit: Becoming Human_* does. Also, I hope *NEMESIS* can be redeemed rather than just destroyed.
Here is a question for you, Since the people of Far Zenith are now dead is Nemesis, who's only goal as far as we know is revenge on Far Zenith, even a threat?
Hephaestus won't be captured. They are going to need him to fight Nemesis (like with far Zenith) alongside Gaia & Team Aloy. Hephaestus isn't the existential threat like Hades and Nemesis. He's just pissed that human's are hunting the machines. In his "eyes" humans are destroying the very machines that are designed to help them. So, he designed machines to stop them from hurting "his" machines. The machines aren't actively hunting humans. They only attack when disturbed. Besides, the world needs dragons, and Hephaestus fits that bill. An eternal antagonist.
Can't believe no one on here even addressed HFW's biggest unanswered question. What happened with Picolito??? He wasn't accounted for after the Grimble got destroyed. Aloy could surely use his knowledge and skills to defeat Cuballo.
Pretty lazy list. You managed to put Nemesis on there twice for no real reason except to pad your list to 10. They were never going to answer your "questions" about something that doesn't even become known until the final moments of the game. BTW, they don't actually "have" Apollo. Apollo is stored on the Odyssey which they haven't accessed yet. Possible DLC? I would think retrieving Apollo would be essential before squaring off against Nemesis.
We could have a dlc having some of this list of questions will be answered and there is a theory that talking about a place in the horizon universe called the burning shores and I'm thinking that it would be after the golden gate bridge in San Francisco
I wonder if Nemesis has a copy of Tilda's mind inside of it. If that is the case, he might have a more personal connection to Aloy and a weakness she might be able to exploit. Personally I think the story of Zero Dawn 3 will go a bit like Jak and Daxter 3. Aloy and her friends search the world for parts to build a weapon, they deal with new enemies, they deal with Hephaestus, they build the weapon, they shoot Nemesis out the sky, but he lands earth in a single war machine which leads to an epic boss battle, they kill him and Aloy and Seyka share a passionate kiss on top his dead carcass.
Honestly, lore wise the Quen make ZERO sense. ALL life was wiped out by the Faro Swarm, ALL of the Humans that are around in the world came from Gaia, who is in North America. There is no way humans from North America made it to Asia in a few 100 years they would have been around since being recreated and let out of the mountain by Gaia. So unless there were other Zero dawn facilities to make people, that Gaia doesn't remember existing... or there are other Gaia's out there running their own facilities independently. Ya, this is a plot hole you can drive the Bismarck through.
Most of these questions are answered in the game if you take even a moment to think or just pay attention. 1 We know the timeline of when nemesis will arrive because Gaia says it followed far zenith and sent the signal ahead so we know it should arrive likely within a year of forbidden wests end. 2 No there won’t be another sobek clone because they grow at normal rates so if a clone was born after forbidden west it would be a baby. 3 Silens stayed because Aloy has grown into someone he respects where before he only respected Sobek and the ancestors for their knowledge and accomplishments but now she has matched them and has potential to surpass them. 4 We will have to capture the Hephaestus subfunction because without it Gaia can’t restore balance to the ecosystem and it has to happen in the third game because otherwise how would you justify fighting machines?(At least until nemesis takes over the cauldrons)
Wait a minute, i thought we saw how Ted looks like from the scan. Like tendrils of flesh or some sort. I guess they couldn't show because it's an adventure game, not horror. He might look like some eldritch abomination so we can only imagine
If the AI just wants to kill the Far Zenith humans, wouldn’t it spare earth once they tell it they killed all the Far Zenith? Or would it be angry that they ‘stole’ it’s revenge?
My only issues with the game was the zeniths were extremely underwhelming and mostly unexplained and that overall nothing got solved for the biosphere. The world is still fucked with Hephaestus still out there now around the whole world more powerful. Other than those factors the game is a near master piece is world and gampplay
I wouldn't expect Vast Silver to be all that relevant. The introduction of Nemesis as an even more advanced rogue AI antagonist more or less renders anything that could be done with Vast Silver redundant.
I dont think we are going to capture hephesto since they are making a new subfunction thanks that gaia could absorb basic coding of hephesto and using that and with the apollo ai knoledge they are making the ai to replace him, probably vulcan
My thoughts are that this video was made by people who never played the game but read the wiki. Pronouncing names wrong, not understanding core elements of the story, not knowing that we do see faro.
I hope they don’t catch Hephaestus honestly. I don’t mind them coming to a semi functional alliance to help the biosphere but I personally don’t see humans agreeing to stop hunting machine so easily. Also I hope there are not anymore clones. Beta was a great twist but please no more.
I believe vast silver is nemesis. I believe it escaped on the spacecraft, the far zeniths discovered it, used it as a means to reach digital transcendence, which failed. Vast silver is angry he got trapped for the second or third time, and with the megalomaniacs minds from far zenith incorporated into him, he became nemesis
Far Zenith really learned nothing from the Faro plague and straight up built another super advanced AI Robot that turned on them and wiped out their civilisation 😂
They literally answer all of these in the game if you actually pay attention and read all the notes you scan-including one left by beta in the base talking about being able to replicate hephasteus now that apollo has been introduced to the code (from combining gaia).
Here's a small but important question: Considering her significance, why does Aloy travel alone? Plot armor dictates that she actually prefers doing things alone. And despite her kind nature, she is avoidant and reclusive. But she's also the clone of Elizabet Sobeck. She's the single most important human being in the new world. Realistically speaking, any ally that understands the significance of Aloy and her mission would never allow her to travel alone because she's too valuable to risk losing. She should be treated more like Alva, an expert in the company of an expeditionary force.
I'm not a fan Hephaestus getting caught in the dlc or on the next game. After the trilogy of aloy story, they can make new horizon game with a new story that aloy isn't the main character. A story just like uncharted or last of us, that the story that not needed to save the world, just a story just like uncharted. If Hephaestus got caught then there will be no new horizon game story after Aloy journey end
