Bought it 2 yrs ago. Great for beginners and experts to have fun. I agree to move the panic function to another switch bc the defaukt (bind button) is not so easy to reach at a DX9. Great demonstration! I would not dare inverted flight in this small area. My maiden flight was in the living room at safe mode. Did not crash :) wife would have killed me if she knew...
Nice to see what this can do in the hands of an experienced person. I bought this one just for learning what you were showing, glad to know it was a good choice.
Good video buddy. I watched your video then went on Amazon and bought the RTF kit with heli, transmitter, battery, and charger. I also bought 3 extra batteries for when I take this bad boy to the park. This heli looked so cool watching you fly it man. Thanks for inspiring another! Jon Cardiasmenos from Concord, Ca.
Just been out for a fly this weekend put in the settings you gave me did a trim flight this heli flies great now just got to practise in IU1/IU2 thanks
Well, you got me. I sold my Drone(Because I only need and want a Mavic Pro, but I have after seeing this video and Crash 2 crash with the older 230 V1 in the green color. This, however, is more stable and I have now been flying it and landed it over 100 times. But I have yet to try inverted. I can easy on the Phoenix Sim, but there it doesn't cost a lot to crash. I take great info from this video. Please make more. Thank you
To go inverted, I use 115% D/R for Aileron and Elevator and turn the expo down to 10% or just 0. The servos are slow so go about 100 feet and do a big loop first to get used to it. You'll get it. I used to go out over very tall grass in a field so you can dump it in the soft weeds if you have to. Have fun, Coe Show
I love my 230.a must do is aluminum swash ,not only to keep the links from popping off during flight,but for it flys so amazing with one..I used the swash from a old sr i didn't fly no more...tad smaller but maybe that's why mine Rocks! With a smaller swash on. Its not noticable,but is a little smaller swash
@@d3et1roi3t after quite a few hard crashes and learning the basics i purchased a lot of a bunch of small and large scale helis. I still have limited experience in flying but comparing the 230s V2 to things like Blade 400 3D, blade 500 3D and even the MCPX, its like night and day. The 230s is a wonderful flying and well tuned machine. It easily is my favorite heli 'basher' per say. Would highly recommend it
I own three scale helis and a few 3d ones as well. I don't fly 3d, but I do like sport aerobatics. Got myself one of these as a yard beater and to try and teach myself some mellow 3d stuff. I was VERY surprised at how well the tail held. I really didn't think they could get a motorized tail to work so well, but I was wrong. Anyways, I really like mine and have been flying it alot. It is light enough and flimsy enough that if I crash it into my house or my car, it probably won't damage anything. I was also extremely surprised by how well auto level mode works on this. For comparison, I have a scale heli and a sab fireball running Brain / Ikon with autolevel. However I never really liked how that autolevel worked and stopped using that feature on those two helis. But the autolevel on the AR636 on the 230s v2 is much much better than it had any right to be, considering the price of this heli, imo. The autolevel works beautifully on my 230s v2. Long story short, I bought the parts to build myself a second 230s v2. This one is going into a Microheli Hughes 300 scale fuselage (with the Microheli three-bladed rotor). Having good autolevel on a scale heli is nice for when you want to fly far away and still know your heli's orientation by simply feeling the cyclic stick's position. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
I'm curious...did you have to do the trim flight, or did it fly well right out of the box? Mine arrives tomorrow. (-: Thanks man!!! I appreciate your time.
I just got the 230s a couple weeks ago. Kinda different from my cheap quadcopters and the Blade 70s. Lotsa blades scrapes and a slightly bent tail boom. Have done flight trim twice and still likes to drift backwards. Today, did another flight trim....drifts forward. BUT, with that said I have a few successful flights in Safe Mode. I wish you lived closer. I kinda need a Badass Flight guy to be like a second set of eyes.
you'll love it. Play with the Rate and the Expo to get the feel how you like it. You can also tun the tail gain up and down as you like it. Just do exactly what the manual says to set it up. Then adjust from there. Happy flying.
Hi CoeShow! I was watching a lot of videos about both helis 230S and 180S. While i have my big heli (500 class), i was thinking to pick something smaller for 3d practice and possible crashes. I guess 230S is better due to electric tail, but what about main shaft, servo, and other stuff? Do they break easily in 230S due to crash into some grass? Will 180S survive crashes better despite mechanical tail?
Greetings, I am really impressed with the way you fly and I would love to fly that way. I know how to fly airplanes perfectly, but 3 months ago I bought the Blade 120 S2 and it was very easy for me, but three weeks ago I bought the 230 S Smart and it seemed to me. It makes it very difficult to fly it for me, it is very compact, what do I have to do to make it fly like the 120 in which I feel most comfortable? The radio I use is an NX8.
I'm trying to learn side flipping on my 230 and thought I'd watch your video agin . I've already mastered forward and backward flipping but I'm not comfortable with side flipping so I don't know it..so trying to force myself to learn it.i busted the canopy on mine and bent the main in a crash but I replaced all the parts
This kicks the Walkera's butt. I fly the 230s V2 when I want to relax and just have some easy fun. It's strong, capable, and has a long flight time. I'm sure you will like it.. Thanks, Coe Show
Hey CoShow love your channel i know this is a noob question but i have the 230s v2 also you mention in your video that you have 15 expo and dual rate to 125 to fly it in your yard, Is that only for stunt 2 setup? Trying to setup my tx on the DX6 Gen 3 with this heli
I fly one rate. Just go in D/R and expo and set it. Higher number is a higher roll rate. I use about 15% on expo for Aileron and elevator. Numbers should be the same. 125% aieleron, 125% elevator and expo on both. Don't need to do rudder. Set radio as manual states with everything else.
@@CoeShow619 Wow thank you for the reply i also got the 360CFX 3s after watching your vids the setup is a little different but i will try what you recomend thanks alot!!
Another thing that helps, is a digital pitch gauge. Make sure blades are flat at center stick in hold mode. Adjust links to make blades flat at center stick if they are not. Now zero the pitch gauge while at center stick. Now go to travel adjustment on pitch. Go to high stick, and read gauge. It's probably about 11 degrees. Take it to 14 degrees by making number bigger, now do low stick, take it to 14 degrees. Use the D/R and Expo adjust on your 360cfx too. I use 110% and 25-30% expo. Aileron and elevator rates are the same. Expo is too. Have fun.
@@CoeShow619 How come there is more expo on the 360cfx than let's the 230s v2? In the 360 3s cfx manual it says zero expo on everything but i guess it depends on flying style. I'm still a noob pilot though i will try your settings. Been practicing alot on the new RF9 sim that just came out but not sure how accurate the handling is on sim versus the real thing.Thanks for your input loving my helis so far 360cfx is best heli i've owned so far.
I crashed mine again 3rd time .I set it up just like Manuel said.lots of damage was flying it in stable mode wasn't stable at all so it must be me time to give it up
It takes time to learn. Crashes are normal. Try learning to fly on a Real Flight simulator. Learn where the hold switch is too. It will save the heli in a crash
@@CoeShow619 thanks for the advice and encouragement. I really do like the helicopter.i like its size and everything else about it .think I'll get the simulator and fly my 200s more that should help
Thanks for the Vid. Just bought my first help Blade msr s and learning. Also have a blade Mach 25 drone and a dx6 on the way. Trying to be smoother with the Heli. Prob going to transition into the 230 soon. Any tips on getting better as a pilot?
Practice every day. I wake up with a cup of coffee and I just fly. It's like learning to ride a bike. Once you take those training wheels off, it's on.
Is low head speed the same thing as tuning down my throttle curves, or do you adjust something else too, I haven't programmed in a long time and am just getting back into the hobby again.
Hell I couldn’t get mine to hover. It wanted to take off moving left or right and some times front and back. It was not easy. Hell I crashed it in the yard trying to hover and get videos to send to horizon and it broke the frame.. owned it for like 4 hours.
Well, when you learned to ride a bike, you had training wheels, you kinda balanced, then dad pulls them off and you crash about 50 times before you don’t crash any more. It is not the helicopters fault. This is not easy. That’s why we do it. Get a DJI drone if you want to watch it fly itself. It’s a helicopter dude. Practice.
@@CoeShow619 While I agree with you. It’s not practice win as soon as it lifts off it darts to the lift and I have to apply almost full right on the right controller stick to keep it from going left no matter where I’m at? Even in my basement that is not air-conditioned and there’s no wind. And both helicopters did this. I went and purchased a second one after the first one crashed and broke the frame. And it does almost the exact same thing as soon as it lifts off it wants to pour hard to the left. Even horizon said they should not do this and asked me to send the first one back to them. In this video there’s one point where you’re not even touching the controller and it’s pretty much hovering it self. Even when I hit the panic button and let off of the right control stick it just darts violently to the left. I need help on what I could be doing wrong not criticism like “practice dude”. I know I will need years of practice the flower one like you but even the box say this is great for beginners and requires a little to no input to hover in place. Not the case for either of the 230s smart’s I have purchased.
@@KnightsGarage As you said. They both do the same thing. There is nothing wrong with the 230s. It’s always going to be like balancing a basketball on your finger. And the low hover has a ground effect rotor wash that you are flying in. It’s just practice. Get a simulator.
@@CoeShow619 Yeah but harassing said the first one shouldn’t do that and I had to send it to them for evaluation and repairs. So it would seem even though I agree it shouldn’t be doing that. Does yours just take off to the left so hard you have to go for right on the state just to keep it from running away to the left? No matter where you are? Even inside a building with no fans or anything? It’s like every video I see even dudes that say this is their first time flying a helicopter their hover is much more stable than what I’m saying. I agree I need practice, but in my eyes it is not functioning as advertised when it says on the box it’s good for beginners and requires little input to hover and center. Even when I press the panic button it darts to the left violently. where do I get a simulator?
So, if I understood you correctly it will fly inverted in Stunt 1? Also it really seems slow doing a pirouette. Even compared to the Nano S2 or the 130S. Not sure if adjusting the gain will help. But that’s my only complaint about it. Nice flying by the way.
I love mine , but I would like to know why Blade released a heli with such a heavy tail , I had to add 1.25oz of weight to the nose to balance it out ? Did they not check this before they put it on the market ?
Bonjour excelente vidéo merci 🤩 J’aurais une question penser vous qu’on pourais ajouter un micro satélite sous s fhSS à cette helico pour le binder en s fhSS ?
@@CoeShow619 oui je cest mais il y’a comme des micro satélite qui se branche sur la carte de vol des micro heli Exemple sur le eachine e180 qui est en futaba Il y’a un monsieur qui a mis un micro récepteur satélite es Spectrum avec une prise d’embranchement très petite seulement pour binder directement et vole en Spectrum au lieu de futaba s fhSS Donc j’aimerais savoir si sur la carte de vol du blade 230s il y aurais une prise débranchement récepteur pour fair pareil mais en s fhss
@@plane.amazing.flying2835 I have had a nano s2 for a few weeks. It is super twitchy and the slightest breeze really affects it as I'm sure you know. I've watched your s2 video. I lost control and crashed it into my roof. Now the tail rotor only spins in 1 direction and stays on even after letting off. I have no idea what might have broke. Do you?
Brett Mccafferty Probably the motor. The motor is meant to represent the gears in the tail and when you go to the left, or the nose of the heli goes to the right, the motor shuts off and allows the force of the main gear from the heli to spin the heli. I have the same heli and I can say that the parts are relatively cheap and you should have no problem replacing it.
@@plane.amazing.flying2835 thanks! I found out I had to recalibrate the gyro. It worked. I'm still having a hard time flying it on 3d mode. It's super twitchy. I'm thinking the East mode makes it harder for 1st time flutters because you get used to full stick to keep it where you want it but in 3d full stick movement will flip it over lol.
watch out for the expo on the tail, ive had 2 crashes(tail lost control and just spun itself out of the air) having it set at 15% went back to 25% and its fine. Its a fun little heli for sure but its definitely no powerhouse
I started at 18 years old with helicopters, so I’m 48 now. It’s been 30 years of just about every day addiction. I feel as though if I don’t just hover a helicopter during the day I don’t feel right. It has to be part of you. Thanks for watching.
Would this work for a beginner? Well I’m not really a beginner, I’ve been flying 4ch helis for years but never did a 6ch so I consider myself a noob when it comes to 6ch heli’s
Would you say a person could upgrade to this from an MCX2 as a 2nd heli so long as they stay in safe mode for the first while? IE: is the SAFE mode good enough I could have a reasonable chance of NOT crashing if I've never flown a CP before?
Great video! I recently got me one. Question: When you hover *in mode 0* and suddenly punch the throttle/pitch, does yours also rotate left a few degrees? Is this normal?
Mine wants to go hard to the left all the time. Like I have crashed it a couple times because I was full right on the right controls day and it was still slowly moving left and got faster and faster. I actually went and bought a different 230s smart because I figured something was wrong with the first one when horizon hobby Told me to send it back to them for evaluation because of the video I sent them of what it was doing. I’m kind of losing my mind a little bit on how all these videos say it’s so easy but I’m having such a difficult time.
@@Abszurdista-fatalista They evaluate 85 different times and each time refuse to fly it in the manner I described to get it to develop a horrible drift. Each time they said they only hovered it for about 30 to 45 seconds it takes about two minutes a flight before the drift gets bad and then gets worse over time. They basically sent it back the last time and told me that I needed to re-calibrate the FBL before each flight which is crazy.
Can you upgrade these things to have a cooler body style? I have my 230 V2 coming in soon and was wondering if you could put like a huey model shell around it? Whats the max liftoff weights? I cant find it anywhere
If you can find a body, it would be up to you to make sure the center of gravity is correct, and it would be light enough to fly. A bird does not have hollow bones for no reason. The more weight you add, you are gonna have to run a higher headspeed, or add more pitch, or both, or a longer blade, and the list goes on. Everything is a trade off in science. If you weighed more, without gaining muscle and strength, you will not run as fast. Or carry a kid and try to run,m it's gonna slow you down. Buy a 550-700 heli if you need a scale look. They can handle the weight.
@@CoeShow619 By asking this question 15 times I found a company that makes these shells custom with super lightweight plastic. Appreciate the response though!
Hi I’m really finding it hard to to fly out of safe mode also when I go to idle up one mode the heli feels so disconnected also when I go back to safe mode the tail shakes and the heli is not fly able any suggestions would be much appreciated I have been flying for a while but am struggling to fly out of safe mode I need to master this heli before I can progress to the 270 cfx and the align 450l
You have what is called Safemodeitis. It is a hereditary problem, which you learn something without the entire story. Safe is cool an all for hovering, and getting off the ground, but any other helicopter, no matter how good it looks, the pilot is doing the balancing act and keeping it in control. So, in reality the helicopter is doing what it’s supposed to in idle 1 and 2. Add some positive expo of about 30%. And realistically, low rates don’t work for anyone if you want control, so turn the D/R up to 125% on aileron, elevator and rudder. Now go to travel, go to pitch, and make that 100 a 110 and the other 100 for low stick a 110. You just increased the pitch. Rudder you can use about 10% expo. Now, the art is to use settings like that, and find a headspeed for idle 1 and 2 that is not so low it’s lethargic, but not so high it’s scary. So 2 is the highest at like 85% flat line, and 1 is like 72% , so you can hear a see a difference. Try to get off the Safe, and the safemodeitis will go away. Hope that helps.
You have to fly it. When you switch modes, stability mode is off. Flying a helicopter is constant input. It is like spinning a basketball on your finger. You have to stay under it. If it drifts backwards, push forward on the cyclic and stabilize it. It's a balancing act of inputs. You are also in rotor wash when you are leaving the ground. So the heli will have to defeat it's own wind before it will become stable. 10" off the ground is where it will become comfortable. Just practice.
I just cant get this thing in 3d mode, I thought I programmed it right of the get go and ive been messing with it for a while and nothing.. like i'm stuck in intermediate mode, except I cant hold an inverted hover.. It just seems to die down as soon as I flip it, same with 3d mode.. any suggestions?
lucas macmillan go to Throttle curve in Stunt 1 and make sure it is 70% in all of 5 those boxes. Go to stunt 2 and put 85% in all 5 of those boxes. Take the blades off. Spool up on table. Click into Stunt 1. Check the throttle. Does it die out now.
@@CoeShow619 I just went through, deleted the model, and reprogrammed eeeeverything. I flew like a champ for a whole 2 minutes till I felt frisky and wrecked the damn thing... so I'm waiting on parts right now but I'll let you know how she runs. did still feel slightly sluggish, but that may have been an undercharge on the battery. nice vids btw, keep up the good work bud
Being a fixed wing guy since day 1 I tried helis twice back when there wasn't any flybarless, safe modes etc. Would this be a good platform to start with instead of one of those little dinky ones.
The 230s V2 is the way to go. Just follow the manual for your particular Spektrum radio, and you will be hovering in just a few hours. Get used to the throttle hold switch, so if you get off balance and start to go into the deck, you can kill the motor so the rotor is not under power to avoid damage. If you do that, it will last you a very long time, and it can teach you light 3d once you are comfortable. Get an understanding of how a helicopter works, so you can actually know it's flight concept. Happy Flying, stay in touch.. Coe Show
Hey there Coe,I crashed my 230 and did a full rebuild . The only thing is when I punch the throttle the tail spins out ,how do I fix this ?? Is it in the gain ?
@@fishnfoo1621 tail rotor spins counter clockwise looking at it from the right side. Flip the tail rotor blade over. It should blow toward your face if you are on the passenger side of the helicopter.
MoJesEli flying a helicopter in GTA is nothing like flying an RC one. If I were to compare it to any popular game, I would say the helicopters in battlefield games fly pretty similar
When i run mine in stable mode with 800mah batt i can goto 8 min easily with this heli, without killing the battery i wouldn't push it though beyond that
Drone pilots don't know crap, us heli pilots actually got a lot more skill than any drone pilot will ever have. Unless they decide to become a heli pilot also.
Not durable at all. Broke the boom off hitting a bush while hovering a foot off the ground, landing gear broke on hard landing in tall grass. It does fly well and I am catching on fast after using simulator.
@@CoeShow619 no doubt a lot of torque on the propeller and if it hits anything, not good. Patched it up and made a few flights and I was catching on. Waiting for new booms and getting a second one. I am committed to learn to fly.
