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Hosea's Sickness - Red Dead Redemption 2 

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@thecowboy9698
@thecowboy9698 Год назад
Hosea's illness, and even Arthur's TB, ain't nothing compared to Uncle's Lumbago. As Uncle said: "It's a slow and painful death."
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 Год назад
Evidently.
@SepticSafe_
@SepticSafe_ Год назад
I can’t believe people still find this funny.
@SchizmKing
@SchizmKing Год назад
​@@SepticSafe_ correct. Lumbago is no laughing matter my friend.
@jimbo_1312
@jimbo_1312 Год назад
​@@SepticSafe_ it's almost as if humour is subjective 🤔
@RandomZayMK8
@RandomZayMK8 Год назад
Sadly his lumbago caught up to him 12 years later.
@bacjam6139
@bacjam6139 Год назад
In the last chapter, it's nice to see some of the gang have adopted Arthur as the new Hosea; they all look up to him and ask him for advice.
@einzelganger6664
@einzelganger6664 Год назад
RIP HOSEA 🌹
@the_stolen_show
@the_stolen_show Год назад
@@einzelganger6664 What’s even more sad, and I can’t for the life of me remember which cast member said it, is that they said that if Lenny had survived Saint Denis, that he probably would’ve most likely stepped up into Hosea’s role as the moral heart and counselor of the gang
@daviscampbell9020
@daviscampbell9020 Год назад
Uncle doesn't die to it though.
@poppa8814
@poppa8814 Год назад
​@@daviscampbell9020 uncle never dies
@daviscampbell9020
@daviscampbell9020 Год назад
@poppa Did you play RD1 ? He dies on the front deck there. In RD2 he falls asleep in the same location & posture.
@876_bees
@876_bees Год назад
Micah: When your gone, I'm gonna miss you old man Hosea: I don't believe the feelings mutual Absolutely cold💀💀🥶🥶
@JamesJJSMilton
@JamesJJSMilton Год назад
he might have been old and dying, but hosea didn't play no fuckin games
@jensibowable
@jensibowable Год назад
Micah sounds like he’s masking there af, a true psychopath trying to fit in by pretending to be sad when someones gone. Either that or he’s setting up a joke
@Kapech_the_first
@Kapech_the_first Год назад
​@@jensibowable He's just being sarcastic
@raphael2407
@raphael2407 11 месяцев назад
Hosea was not cold. Just a real oldschool gangster. You don't fck around with a guy like this, he doesn't play no games. Micah is testing the waters and Hosea sets him straight without even looking up from his book.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 11 месяцев назад
@@jensibowableyeah he even insulted hosea and lennys death on grauma camp. Made me hate him so much.
@mdsfhs
@mdsfhs Год назад
I gotta say that a snapping turtle feels like a pretty accurate animal for Hosea to be reincarnated as (1:56), calm and a bit slow, but dangerous if necessary. I miss him.
@schwunkie
@schwunkie Год назад
nah, snapping turtles are extremely aggressive and always dangerous, just grumpy animals. I think it's unfair to compare such a needlessly angry and territorial animal to such a caring old man
@mdsfhs
@mdsfhs Год назад
@@schwunkie I’m not very familiar with the nature of snapping turtles, however a quick google search tells me that they are in fact (in general) only aggressive if threatened. Even if that weren’t the case though it was just a comment, no need to dissect it and act like I’m insulting Hosea. He was a great character and I feel like this criticism of a small comment isn’t necessary.
@schwunkie
@schwunkie Год назад
@@mdsfhs sorry, i get defensive when the sweet old man who cares for and helps everyone in the gang is compared to a snapping turtle however i am familiar with snapping turtles, they're native to my area, and live in my backyard I can say experiencing many run-ins with them they are not pleasant and definitely aggressive beyond being threatened
@pintolerance785
@pintolerance785 Год назад
​@@mdsfhs I cut the snapping turtles heads off when I found that they invaded the pond, they was eaten my ducks, hadda kill em uncle Bob held em down with his boot and I took that shovel, took that suckers head right off. Only animal that I felt okay with Killin I hate those demagorgon demonic shits.
@Takaichi666-
@Takaichi666- Год назад
Hosea is dangerous they had an encounter at camp strangers were trying to look around but Hosea and I believe bill were blocking their way and Hosea subtly but in a frightening way told them “leave or else” I can’t remember exactly how he said it but it was pretty scary
@HereGoesNothingFB
@HereGoesNothingFB Год назад
There's not much I wish I could relive in life.. I wish I could play through this again for the first time ever.
@pow1395
@pow1395 Год назад
Its like when you get the first time high and you feel that buzz that feeling that you never going to get again because your body builds up a high tolerance of cannabis and you smoke more and more to get that same feeling but it leads you to nowhere and you become an addict a crack head lol to much internet for today
@BeregondFirstCaptain
@BeregondFirstCaptain Год назад
Heck I haven't seen some of these scenes. Plaything though for the first 3 or 4 times can have 1sts for you.
@Linneom
@Linneom Год назад
I wish I didn’t spoil it for myself, like an idiot
@Misfit710
@Misfit710 Год назад
Same. I did a low honor play through my first time and wish I never did. Now I tell new players to finish with high honor and in chapter 6 complete the veteran and widow missions. For the reason why I only say "you'll understand when you get there" as to not spoil anything.
@norsuist
@norsuist Год назад
The biggest regret i have was just rushing thtough the story missions on my first playthough back in 2018... i didnt't understand how much more there was to this game
@loganwoods1590
@loganwoods1590 Год назад
"I've excused you quite enough!" I don't know why, but I LOVE the way his Voice Actor read that line. Sounds like a grandpa has lost his patients with the stupid in the family.
@StitchPen
@StitchPen Год назад
Hosea really is like that grandfather who's seen everything, can differ from right and wrong, and simply cannot put up with the ostentatiousness of the younger members.
@Betterfly_agreste
@Betterfly_agreste Год назад
​@@StitchPentrue that
@MGG87
@MGG87 Год назад
Omg yes, that has always been my favorite Hosea moment.
@dustywaynemusic6297
@dustywaynemusic6297 Год назад
"Patients" 😂😂😂😂
@bigamateur9055
@bigamateur9055 Год назад
He didn't read the line, he played it. It's motion capture and only some lines have to be redone in the studio. They are actors, not voice actors
@JTMHoneycombs
@JTMHoneycombs Год назад
You can discover his illness even earlier. In the snowy mountains at the beginning of the game you can see a conversation of him and Dutch where he coughs a bit. When you ask him about it, he waves it off saying it's the cold giving him the cough.
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад
Yup that's when I found out about it
@huh._
@huh._ Год назад
@@QuietWolfBRthat’s literally what the op said
@Alley_Kat_Blackfyre
@Alley_Kat_Blackfyre Год назад
This furthers my thought he caught pneumonia and couldn’t fight it off
@jakeboehm5267
@jakeboehm5267 Год назад
@@Alley_Kat_Blackfyrea bullet the chest isn’t pneumonia. He’s have died sooner
@Alley_Kat_Blackfyre
@Alley_Kat_Blackfyre Год назад
@@jakeboehm5267 I never said it killed him, he was dying from it in the game until Dutch got him killed
@samuelivanov9244
@samuelivanov9244 Год назад
12:25 “Hosea doesn’t have time for the idiots” Meanwhile Arthur’s in the background smoking a ciggy he found on the floor
@Joshua-lz9sk
@Joshua-lz9sk Год назад
One he isn’t on the floor, secondly he is waiting for him to end the conversation. Completely wrong about what an idiot is, ironic really your comment
@SharpForceTrauma
@SharpForceTrauma 5 месяцев назад
Common practice at the time really 😂 Even with the advent of industrialization, tobacco was a luxury commodity that was never wasted. If you find half a cig on the ground, no sense in just leaving it there when it could be yours.
@stingerjohnny9951
@stingerjohnny9951 3 месяца назад
@@SharpForceTrauma I remember a letsplayer hear bout Leviticus Cornwall being into sugar and she said “like…booger sugar?” And I commented how nope, sugar was THAT valuable back then. You could get shot over a bag full of the stuff depending on where you were.
@thedude2650
@thedude2650 16 дней назад
@@SharpForceTraumaTo be fair people still do it nowadays 😂
@edgargarcez6098
@edgargarcez6098 2 дня назад
At the time ? Bruuh, i did that just last week, guarantee i’m not the only one too 😂😂
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist Год назад
Dude, I joked to myself some hour ago that Hosea has worse tuberculosis than Arthur. Now I’m watching this, 5 minutes after it came out.
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
Hosea probably doesn't have TB but he's not well.
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist
@The_Sleepiest_Socialist Год назад
@@Fizhy I know. It was joking. Anyway, I’ve been going hard at the game and now Arthur’s wealthy from selling gold in Chapter 2 and I’m glad you take the time to respond. And it could still be TB.
@splicxr
@splicxr Год назад
he likely has Emphysema
@tandrew_ateyayaondazaza
@tandrew_ateyayaondazaza Год назад
​@Fizhy best rdr2 youtuber and you history Channel is awesome too. Thankyou for all you effort it definitely shows in the videos
@thevillagehiddeninthememes1836
My guess is pneumonia or cancer
@ashleygris
@ashleygris 8 месяцев назад
Hosea and Lenny being the oldest and youngest members dying together hits me pretty hard.
@Billy_the-cat
@Billy_the-cat 4 месяца назад
I knew Jack was older than lenny
@ExoticMario
@ExoticMario 3 месяца назад
@@Billy_the-catprobably meant gunman wise
@Yes-Bean
@Yes-Bean Месяц назад
@@Billy_the-catand uncle younger than hosea
@Inqu33rsition
@Inqu33rsition Год назад
Abigail talking to Hosea just about made me cry. I love that sweet old man 😭
@MyaB1986
@MyaB1986 Год назад
You'd be surprised to know Hosea isn't actually that old. He was in his 50's.
@Takaichi666-
@Takaichi666- Год назад
The first mission where he and Arthur went bear hunting is where I took a big liking to him his jokes and just how he talks to Arthur I was thinking “he’s such a sweet guy”
@devonian0590
@devonian0590 Год назад
​@@Takaichi666- I'm regretting not going fishing with him. Rn I'm trying to do every mission and every side quest and everything and usually I don't do that in game's
@Takaichi666-
@Takaichi666- Год назад
@@devonian0590 my first play through I didn’t fish with them my second play through I did go fishing with Hosea and Dutch and it was actually a good time Hosea is funny with his stories
@Betterfly_agreste
@Betterfly_agreste Год назад
We all do😞😞😞😭😭😭😭
@molotulo8808
@molotulo8808 Год назад
Hosea atleast doesn't die alone. I'm 63 and ain't doing good. The only thought that bothers me is being alone. Loneliness is the worst punishment a person can have.
@CDG-PRODUCTIONS
@CDG-PRODUCTIONS Год назад
God Bless you my friend, you have my prayers. I'm sorry to hear this. ❤️
@agenteeamentepodcast2790
@agenteeamentepodcast2790 Год назад
Look for some group activities, friendship comes with hobbies at an older age
@JoeTheGIFlow
@JoeTheGIFlow Год назад
There is nothing wrong with being alone, being alone is absolute freedom. Make the best of it, I use to not enjoy being alone. Now I practically love it and live for it, make the best of the situation. Sometimes having people isn't everything, I still see lots of folks, but only few am I genuinely close with. Just find a passion or something, maybe you can meet someone with that.
@dustywaynemusic6297
@dustywaynemusic6297 Год назад
Maybe you're lonely because you're 63 and commenting on RU-vid videos about video games
@quinnmoonlight4187
@quinnmoonlight4187 Год назад
@@dustywaynemusic6297dude shut up
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
Arthur Morgan became more like Hosea when you play more in a high honour setting as the game progresses , he started picking up his wisdom & insight for real ✅.
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад
Yup the minute he stopped looking up to Dutch the more he listened to the actual Father of the camp
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
@@theoutsiderjess4869 Facts bro. ✅
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 Год назад
Hosea and Arthur were already very similar, both fantasized of running away from the gang but both lost special people (Hosea lost Bessy, Arthur lost love with Mary and eventually lost his kid) so they both kind of missed that opportunity and are now the most loyal members of the gang because it’s the only family either of them will ever have. This also explains why both kept urging John to value his family and run away
@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
@@josephstalin2606 Yeah that’s a good point on that one Jospeh ✅
@swaggydragon
@swaggydragon Год назад
considering hosea would of sided with arthur at the end of the game, I don’t doubt they were probably closer (if u do the greet options w hosea around camp they seem closer and nicer than with dutch)
@jfcard0055
@jfcard0055 Год назад
Hosea's sickness is also a great way to show how much the gang has changed; early on, one gang member being sick is a concern for the entire gang. At the end, only a few members of the gang express concern or worry for Arthur (though I'll always have a soft spot for Bill trying to stand up for Arthur to Micah).
@fakeninja4447
@fakeninja4447 Год назад
Very true, and yeah it was really touching seeing Bill always defend Arthur from Micah. There's even some hidden dialogue in ch 6 where Bill whispers to Arthur that Micah has spread rumors that Arthur has been saying crazy things about Dutch behind his back (which obviously isn't true). Just makes it more tragic that Bill sided with Dutch, not because he wanted to but because he didn't understand the situation, that's why he just looked confused when he did it. Even in RDR1, Bill admits he doesn't care for Dutch and that he's glad he's no longer there, compared to Javier who STILL defends Dutch in RDR 1, showing that Javier sided with Dutch out of pure loyalty.
@gaydolfbitler
@gaydolfbitler Год назад
I like to think it shows how things will end for outlaws regardless. Without hoseas death his sickness would kill him. Arthur's TB would be the gang falling apart instead. Dutch was falling apart before things spiraled and bill was gay so he would've gotten AIDS lmao Javier and lenny were of colour so would've been lynched eventually. My point is there's always something to kill ab outlaw and you can't escape that regardless of what you do.
@thomasnewton6897
@thomasnewton6897 10 месяцев назад
@@fakeninja4447I know this comment was two months ago but what about the fact that javier points his gun upwards when the standoff at the end of chapter 6 happens? To me it always showed javier wasn’t sure either.
@hehateme1017
@hehateme1017 10 месяцев назад
That and when the gang had the standoff near the end, Javier wouldnt aim his gun at John or Arthur.
@mellomoose_
@mellomoose_ 9 месяцев назад
@@thomasnewton6897i think he always sided with dutch he just didnt wanna shoot arthur either.
@billcrater1273
@billcrater1273 Год назад
It really hit me hard on my first play though when Hosea died. You can easily tell he genuinely cares about the people in the gang. When he turned around and just stared at Arthur at the bank, I had to pause because nothing could have held back the tears. Then Lenny I almost couldn’t finish the mission.
@sultanmahfries6402
@sultanmahfries6402 Год назад
that was when it was the end for the gang... that last light was snuffed out and dutch and gang spiraled out of control!
@mummycool1
@mummycool1 Год назад
I feel that he sacrificed himself at the bank so the gang had a chance, he knew he was dying & did this one last thing for them.
@GLKHD
@GLKHD Год назад
You might be eating a bit too many soy products my boyo
@zetizahara
@zetizahara Год назад
@@GLKHD consider liberating yourself from the mental prison you're in.
@BrandonJXN2
@BrandonJXN2 Год назад
I was already breaking down after Hosea died. But 5 minutes later after Lenny, I had to pause the game, drink some water, and just cry.
@uberreaktor4836
@uberreaktor4836 Год назад
The scenes of him getting over-the-top annoyed/angry at Sean/Bill actually got me. Like, dayum, I've replayed this game a few times already but I've never seen Hosea flying off the handle at any of the gang members before. Didn't know he could flip his lid like that. Only seen his calm and collected, a little more than occasionally sarcastic side so far. Then again he surely has seen enough sh*t in his life to not take any from anyone.
@flufflewarrior
@flufflewarrior Год назад
I mean they are on the run for their lives and you got Bill drunk and Sean sleeping on guard duty... I understand that he is pissed. It's that kind of irresponsibility that could them killed. Bit I absolutely agree. I was so surprised when I saw those scenes for the first time.
@JackSpadeTaylor
@JackSpadeTaylor Год назад
I had seen him flip out on Sean, but I missed the part where he pulled a gun on Bill back in 2018
@nathaniel386
@nathaniel386 11 месяцев назад
I would say view it as his character slightly cracking under the stress. Imagine you are all basically homeless and the fbi is up your ass with your family and you walk up to one of your sons (who you know is particularly irresponsible and stupid) is too drunk to help or asleep on guard duty. Even the nicest person is capable of snapping at someone when a particular pet is peeved.
@jabberwock5346
@jabberwock5346 11 месяцев назад
If you watch the cutscene with Sean, Hosea actually throws a plate of what looks like food. The suggestion is there that Hosea was bringing Sean something to eat while he was on guard duty too - no wonder he flew off the handle like that
@1nc0rr1g1bl3
@1nc0rr1g1bl3 7 месяцев назад
Lol I only heard them in the background.
@immortalx2156
@immortalx2156 Год назад
When I discovered this game 2 years ago, Hosea being ill was the biggest thing I knew in the game. But in overtime, when much more lore and secrets get found in the game, I just totally forgot that Hosea was ill until I saw this video. This game is filled with too much secrets that can last a generation without being found.
@ashroskell
@ashroskell Год назад
I honestly fear that we will never see its like again. I hope against hope to be proven wrong on this. But the way the industry has taken a nosedive in the last 5 or so years fills me with dread. No other games company has taken such time and care over their world building, characters, lore, backstories, mysteries, secrets and genuine in-game rewards for exploration than Rockstar. But even they handed over their GTA, “remaster,” to Grovestreet Games, resulting in a travesty that still made them a lot of money. Time and again the industry has proven that you can make more money with less effort, and time and again, fan loyalty has been rewarded with disappointment, confusion and dismay at the trash we get from the suits in their executive suites, compelling the developers to cut corners in quality and implant micro transactions, NFT’s and paywalls. We may well look back at RDR2 as the very pinnacle of quality story telling and open world perfection that gaming reached, never to reach those dizzying heights again. Like I say, I would rather be wrong about this. But my gut tells me that all gaming hopes will hinge on the next GTA title. If that turns out to be trash, it will still make money. But if it is better than all of the previous instalments and capable of rivalling Red Dead? . . . Well, Rockstar might just save the triple A industry? . . .
@demonetizethis5608
@demonetizethis5608 Год назад
I thought it was gonna be his demise. I was so wrong…
@ashroskell
@ashroskell 6 месяцев назад
@@talkingedmma : It’s quite a while since I wrote that comment, I think? Yes, it does have a few draw backs, but they are forgivable, given what you get in return for your patience. I hate having my agency ripped away from me at those crucial moments when you play the story missions, for instance. There’s one way to earn that gold medal, and only one. So, get used to slow walking, enforced slow riding and having to watch lengthy, unskippable cut scene sequences, if you realise you made a mistake earlier and have to restart the mission. And god help you if you forgot to save just prior and have to use the wrong equipment, horses and unfamiliar weapons. No rewards for lateral thinking, problem solving skills or originality. And why in the hell can’t you rob banks in elaborate ways, from blowing holes in the walls, to tunnelling, to just holding the place up, like in several of the story missions!? That would have completed the circle for me! Until, that is, you have a random encounter, or pursue the skill tree rewards, at which point you’re a free agent, able to use your imagination and creativity to figure out how to lure a predator and set your own kind of trap, or hunt for a bounty, or commit a series of robberies, either getting away with it or leaving a trail of death and destruction in your wake, depending on which reward you’re going for. Or, like so many of us do, just remembering to save so you can attempt the most lucrative train robbery with the cleanest getaway, using a suspension bridge or tunnel as a tactic to stifle law enforcement, after robbing every individual, then murdering them to loot their corpses (they’re always holding out on you) blowing all the safes and raiding every last cupboard and chest, just to see what your tally is, for the sheer hell of it! Any game in which you can waste entire, lengthy, play sessions on gambling, shootouts, drunkenness, theatre going, early cinema, shopping sprees, private investigations, bounty hunting, animal hunting, relaxing fishing, horse racing and so much more, without EVER ONCE going near the main story missions, just losing yourself in a meticulously built, beautiful game, gets my money and time. Because, in the end that’s what it comes down to with me. Always the first and most important question I ask myself: Does the game RESPECT my TIME? When it’s just a giant Fetch-Questathon, with little or no in-game reward for completing it, other than adding stats toward completionism, I feel personally, viscerally insulted. I will forgive a game a lot if it has a good story and characters I can get attached to. But so many games (I’m looking at you, Starfield) actively waste your time with pointless fetching, punish lateral thinking and creativity, have bland, unforgivably stupid, morally blank, characters, blindly wandering about in a plot-hole-ridden story that makes less and less sense the more you think about it and actively encourages corporate-style immorality in the player in a flatly bonkers story that literally makes no sense! Like you said (and if you’re still reading this rant, thank you for your patience) the stars somehow aligned into this, “almost,” perfect game, where every character has a background, motives, logic to them. You even get that sense from the NPC’s when you do random stuff to them, like tormenting a passer by into taking a shot at you while you’re standing behind the sheriff, just so you can have him get murdered by the law, rather than drawing your own weapon, (Y’know? For a larf) because they’re so elegantly crafted. Now, it’s all about the, “parent,” companies and their shareholders. They get paid no matter what, and they have the law to back them. So, if that means laying off a bunch of staff, inserting micro-transactions and paywalls for progress, that’s not up to Rockstar. That’s up to Take Two, who owns them. And their motto comes from Goodfellas, “F’ck you! Pay me!” Now, they care about, “engagement,” which is a euphemism for, “time wasting,” because they measure everything about how long everyone plays, when they play, what they grind hardest for, their age groups, their income levels, etc. You sign away all your rights to privacy when you sign their terms and conditions, AFTER having purchased the game, in a contract that would NEVER stand up to serious legal scrutiny if anyone rich enough to take on Take Two’s battery of lawyers was to challenge them in court about it! And the Rockstar staff can’t even complain in public about all this, because they’ve all signed NDA’s which force them to give up their pensions, severance packages and even repay wages in some cases, should they break them by talking to the press. That’s why the truly creative minds behind Red Dead have all left now, like Dan Houser himself! That’s why I genuinely fear that, unless the punters seriously and collectively change their buying habits, we may well have passed the pinnacle of games as an art form. And Red Dead was it . . . Phew! I feel better for that rant. Like I said, if you moseyed all this way along my trail with me, then thanks for your patience . . . “Boah.” 😉✌️
@mickeyveach3612
@mickeyveach3612 Год назад
I always thought it was a glitch that Hosea keeps wearing the winter jacket throughout chapter 2. But now I'm convinced it's a symptom of his sickness that he needs to stay warm. Once we get to Lemoyne, he doesn't wear it again because it's a southern state which is known to be humid.
@Dragoneatspam
@Dragoneatspam Месяц назад
Damn.
@sashimiroll5055
@sashimiroll5055 Год назад
That transition at 1:48, from Hosea’s death to his gravestone. That was so well done.
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
I thought it was a little jarring but I had to crack on with it. I did my best to remove the jarring aspect and a dissolve fade on each shot did that well enough.
@TheTrillaTron
@TheTrillaTron Год назад
@@Fizhy Not jarring at all. Definitely some movie quality stuff.
@L4ftyOne
@L4ftyOne Год назад
@@TheTrillaTron yes, indeed! so good fizhy!
@L4ftyOne
@L4ftyOne Год назад
​@@FizhyJarring is something Trelawny would say! Lol
@sashimiroll5055
@sashimiroll5055 Год назад
@@Fizhy I think you’re being too hard on yourself
@Nicola_Bailey
@Nicola_Bailey Год назад
I think it's most likely Hosea had Emphysema. Even today there is no cure for the disease, and the average life expectancy is just 5 years. The main symptoms are coughing and fatigue both of which Hosea showed.
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 Год назад
Agreed. Either that or COPD.
@NIGHTSTALKER848
@NIGHTSTALKER848 Год назад
One can also be afflicted with COPD that in turn grows into emphysema and I'd know cause I've got both
@wrench4203
@wrench4203 Год назад
@@NIGHTSTALKER848 damn that sucks
@NIGHTSTALKER848
@NIGHTSTALKER848 Год назад
@@wrench4203 thanks much appreciated and yes it sure does
@kenneldbofungus
@kenneldbofungus Год назад
​@@NIGHTSTALKER848 how long you have left, friend?
@thecustomconcern
@thecustomconcern Год назад
“My dear Bessie went to heaven, while I’ll be going south” It makes me so sad to think Hosea thought that of himself, because while he was outlaw who did bad things, he was an outlaw who only wanted to punish other bad people and institutions, not innocent people. At his core, he was a really good and remorseful guy who everyone at camp cared about a lot.
@Louis-cm5up
@Louis-cm5up Год назад
I always guessed that Hosea just suffered from frequent chest infections which would explain the coughing but not the ''I'll be gone soon atitude'' and after thinking about it I think COPD might be a more likely diagnosis, it would explain: the coughing, the longevity of the disease (as it developes over several years) but also things like his fatigue which would explain his excuse of being too old as the reason for not being able to hunt big game anymore. COPD also increases the risk of chest infections which means my original idea might be right too. Hosea also is/was likely a pretty heavy smoker, as everyone at the time was, which can increase the risk of the disease. Just an idea...
@mrnobody3161
@mrnobody3161 Год назад
Makes sense. 🐎👀
@ShapeshiftedCow
@ShapeshiftedCow Год назад
At the age of 55, having lived the majority of his life in the rough and probably having started smoking very young, it’s basically a given that he acquired some kind of chronic respiratory disease. That said, I wonder how the damage he suffered would differ from the damage you see with today’s smokers given all the carcinogenic additives that are in tobacco products now.
@artificialraspberify
@artificialraspberify Год назад
I always figured it was something like chronic pneumonia, especially with the comments Dutch and Arthur makes about Hosea's coughing. COPD wasn't something I'd ever think of but it fits so well!
@Eveningstar28
@Eveningstar28 Год назад
Now that i read this, it definitely could be true! My dad suffers from COPD too and i can see quite some similarities!
@NIGHTSTALKER848
@NIGHTSTALKER848 Год назад
@louis. I came here to say more or less exactly the same thing. And as someone who has pretty severe stage 3 bordering stage 4 COPD and the early onset of emphysema the similarities between his condition and mine is too coincidental and it would make a lot of sense that could be the case for his sickness and illness. As sad as his death was the bullet was probably a blessing so he didn't have to face the slow painful death COPD would give. Unfortunately I doubt I'll be as lucky. But hey who knows lol. Maybe I'll go piss off a cop to get myself out our of my misery. But not before I do an Arthur and make sure those I love and care for are taken care of
@grimreaper6060
@grimreaper6060 Год назад
I believe that Hosea was suffering from a decease like Bronchitis or Emphysema. If Hosea had the habit of smoking regularly, like Dutch and Arthur, there's also a probability that perhaps he had Lung Cancer.
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 9 месяцев назад
Hosea doesn't have all the symptoms for Emphysema and Bronchitis isn't a "terminal" disease. The prognosis for Lung Cancer in 1899 wasn't five years (you'd be lucky to make it two, and bed ridden for the last six months). He has Pulmonary Fibrosis (Interstitial Lung Disease... scarring of the lung tissue). All of the symptoms fit: Shortness of breath, especially with activity... Dry, hacking cough that does not produce phlegm... Extreme tiredness and weakness... Loss of appetite/Unexplained weight loss... Discomfort in the chest... Labored breathing, which may be fast and shallow... Bleeding in the lungs (usually only in the later stages and still not as much bleeding as either Lung Cancer or TB). The life expectancy for someone with ILD (even in 1899) was THREE TO FIVE YEARS (additionally, Hosea is rather gaunt, which could be explained by the loss of appetite/unexplained weight loss).
@grimreaper6060
@grimreaper6060 9 месяцев назад
@@thebonesaw..4634 Cancers act differently on each organism. It's not only a common decease, It's a mutation of the cells. Different genetic, different reactions. Some people with cancer become walking corpses, but some other people who develop one or more types of cancer might still look normal and barely feel/show any symptoms. Besides, there's no way we could ever know how much time Hosea had left, since he didn't die by his sickness (Like Arthur). He was killed.
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 9 месяцев назад
@@grimreaper6060 -- Normally, I'd agree with you. However, we know that Hosea has two to five years because Hosea says that's how long he has (whether he knows this because he's been diagnosed or whether he simply "feels" that's how long he has is irrelevant)... it's the information the writers of the game gave to us. So... based off of the information that the developers gave to us, along with the symptoms that Hosea was showing and the symptoms that Hosea was NOT showing... I can say with a great deal of certainty that it wasn't emphysema. I can also say that it wasn't bronchitis for the simple fact that bronchitis isn't terminal. I can also rule out lung cancer as well as a host of other terminal lung diseases for various reasons... It isn't COPD because people with COPD (even severe cases) easily live into their 70s and 80s (even in 1899). It isn't emphysema because Hosea doesn't have a barrel chest (which develops because the lungs greatly expand), and Hosea doesn't have cyanosis (blue tint of the skin due to lack of oxygen to the body's cells). It isn't Lung Cancer or Mesothelioma because the prognosis for both are generally shorter than 5 years (especially in 1899). It isn't Cystic Fibrosis - because that's a disease that develops in children. It isn't Bronchiectasis because the average life expectancy is 20 years from the point of diagnosis. It probably isn't TB because, once Arthur develops TB, Hosea doesn't say jack shit about it (if that had been Hosea's diagnosis, he probably would have mentioned it). _"You have TB? Holy shit! Me too!"_ Once we rule all of those out... we're only left with one major terminal lung disease... Pulmonary Fibrosis. And, wouldn't you know it... EVERY... SINGLE... SYMPTOM... FITS. Shortness of breath, especially with activity? CHECK... Dry, hacking cough that doesn't produce phlegm? CHECK... Extreme tiredness and weakness? CHECK... Loss of appetite/Unexplained weight loss? CHECK... Discomfort in the chest? CHECK... Labored breathing, which may be fast and shallow? CHECK. Again... this is a game. Hosea isn't really sick, because Hosea isn't REAL. But, if he were, my bet would be on Pulmonary Fibrosis, simply because all of the symptoms seem to point to it more that they do towards any other terminal lung malady.
@grimreaper6060
@grimreaper6060 9 месяцев назад
@@thebonesaw..4634 If not treated, Bronchitis can actually become an worse condition and kill a person. Though I still believe in cancer, since all the symptoms also fit. But your theory is not to be ignored. We need every useful informations we can get about this.
@jacobhargiss9909
@jacobhargiss9909 9 месяцев назад
​@@grimreaper6060well, he does say he might have 5 years left. I rather doubt that a number he would pick off the top of his head.
@JackieBOYoBOY
@JackieBOYoBOY Год назад
It's easy to forget how important Hosea is to the plot. He's honestly super underated
@Betterfly_agreste
@Betterfly_agreste Год назад
Not to me
@JimMilton-ej6zi
@JimMilton-ej6zi 10 месяцев назад
Not really, his moral compass is literally what drove the entire plot, he's easily the most important side character in the game
@theveryproudmoroccan2834
@theveryproudmoroccan2834 5 месяцев назад
​@@Betterfly_agreste nobody cares
@chazdomingo475
@chazdomingo475 2 месяца назад
He's the whole reason Arthur eventually starts questioning Dutch. "Time to start thinking Arthur, before it's too late."
@mr.spytom
@mr.spytom 2 месяца назад
@@theveryproudmoroccan2834Bro, why do people say this when it seams like you cared enough to reply, use your fucking brain bro
@kieranoconnor333
@kieranoconnor333 7 месяцев назад
That gun spin after threatening Bill was smooth af. Dude was a prime outlaw bad ass. RIP Hosea.
@SSingh-nr8qz
@SSingh-nr8qz Год назад
Mortality is a recurring theme in this game and done very well.
@marcobott7243
@marcobott7243 Год назад
Actually, the first hint is in the very first cutscene--where Dutch kindly yet firmly instructs Hosea to stay and keep warm in the abandoned house in Colter when he asks what they're going to do next.
@IRFSI
@IRFSI Год назад
Damn ive Played it 3-4 times and never did i ever suspect or saw hosea being sick. I think its mostly because i never was much around camp that much to know actual lore. Well done video again. Your rdr videos are best
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
Much appreciated.
@OreganoParsley
@OreganoParsley Год назад
Same. Only thing I noticed was the mission where you move into horseshoe.
@rhameseshamilton8045
@rhameseshamilton8045 Год назад
This game is so loaded with story content that if you blink or don't notice you'll miss it.
@visassess8607
@visassess8607 Год назад
You really just said if you "don't notice you'll miss it"... Lmao
@Santiago-sh3cq
@Santiago-sh3cq Год назад
Best supporting character in my opinion. Repairing the cart, the hunting trip, both some of the most wholesome moments in the game.
@propeladdict9174
@propeladdict9174 7 месяцев назад
That scene in the bank robbery was the most wholesome 😊
@aylarios11
@aylarios11 6 месяцев назад
I loved his quest in Rhodes with the moonshine too hahaha He and Arthur had such a great dynamic.
@chazdomingo475
@chazdomingo475 2 месяца назад
@@aylarios11 "Cousin Fenton!"
@bigishdave1862
@bigishdave1862 Год назад
The wagon ride isn’t the first inclination of Hosea being sick, Arthur asks about his cough in the Colter camp very early on while him and Dutch are sat by the fire talking.
@bigishdave1862
@bigishdave1862 Год назад
Or specifically, when you greet Hosea after him and Dutch are done talking, Arthur will ask about his cough
@Skipchipsdip
@Skipchipsdip Год назад
:'( man imagine if Hosea managed to survie the bank heist disaster. I think he could have gave Arthur words of wisdom since both of their time were running out
@MarsMountain
@MarsMountain Год назад
RDR2 is on another level than other games when it comes to details int he environment and writing. I love that there's still stuff to be found in it leading to great videos like this. Thanks for the vid mate
@alexicage7033
@alexicage7033 4 месяца назад
a man of his age smoked or been around alot of smoke not hard to imagine he has lung cancer consideirng how quickly tb took arthur
@brandon9689
@brandon9689 Год назад
It's easy to mistakenly write off Hosea's reasoning and resistance to Dutch's decisions as a product of age. Realizing he was near the end of the road gave him clarity just like it did for Arthur.
@chazdomingo475
@chazdomingo475 2 месяца назад
It's unlikely Arthur would have ever questioned Dutch without Hosea. And Arthur actually starts questioning him in chapter 4, before he gets sick but after Hosea tells him he needs to start thinking for himself.
@woohoomusic5098
@woohoomusic5098 Год назад
Going through your mystery revisited playlist and just got this notification, perfect timing Fizhy and will probably be a good video about one of my favorite gang members. That turnip speech he gave reminded me of "I Never Picked Cotton" by Johnny Cash
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
One of mine too, Hosea is a really personable but also no-nonsense character.
@woohoomusic5098
@woohoomusic5098 Год назад
@@Fizhy truly the dad/grandpa of the group. I think everyone wishes they had a role model like him
@alistairwalley4299
@alistairwalley4299 Год назад
​@@Fizhyhis illness seems like COPD to me, look into copd an compare to hosea and its pretty spot on, my nan has copd so I kinda spotted it off the bat
@phantom9062
@phantom9062 Год назад
Hosea and Arthur walked so that way John and others could run. Such a beautiful story.
@clayleone9111
@clayleone9111 Год назад
The dead woman on horseback at 19:07 legit creeped me out
@bigchicken4135
@bigchicken4135 Год назад
I'm surprised nobody else was mentioning that
@SepticSafe_
@SepticSafe_ Год назад
He’s so cool, just straight up my favorite out of the second game
@splattt8088
@splattt8088 Год назад
Agreed. He’s the best written character in the 2nd game imo. One of the few with such subtlety
@JoeMercersWay
@JoeMercersWay Год назад
Hosea is the foreshadowing to Arthur of what regrets you can have when you don't end your life on your own terms. Both had little time, but Hosea's illness, forlorn attempts to salvage the gang and untimely demise gives the player the context for the final chapter over how they want Arthur to end his days.
@RodZombie
@RodZombie Год назад
"We're born with some dreams. We acquire others as we get older and we live out something else." Hosea's dialogue there, and the music you've chosen to place, work together so well. There's something eerily prophetic about what he's saying in that scene, and I think it's something that can be applied to some people's lives in reality as well.
@sshiloo
@sshiloo Год назад
i feel like nobody talks about how well written the intros are in your videos, it’s just amazing really fizhy.
@bavarianalex
@bavarianalex Год назад
Hosea is one of my top 5 characters ... he is so intelligent, reasonable, kind ... but can also be quite scary if he gets provocated. He is someone you can respect and look up to - I was very affected by his death and I also think this was the final push for Dutch to lose his mind completely
@sheep9546
@sheep9546 Год назад
I thought I was the only one who noticed hosea's illness. I felt more grief knowing that hosea was basically a dead man walking
@ericcozzens2059
@ericcozzens2059 Год назад
You mentioned that Hosea's illness is a different disease from Arthur's because Hosea's is slower acting. I think though that Hosea also has TB. This is because TB can take years to kill some people while months to kill others. A famous gunslinger for example, called Doc Holliday, was diagnosed with TB around 1872 and died in 1887 from it. Sure Hosea was older than Arthur so he should've maybe died faster, but it's important to remember what Arthur went through. He was almost beaten and starved to death by the O' Discrolls and was stranded in an island for a long time. And depending on the ending you got he was beaten almost to death by Micah. Just wanted to point that out
@Kvs-vf9nt
@Kvs-vf9nt Год назад
There are types off TB. Arthur's one was also extremely aggressive. The full rdr2 story plays out over the last 6 months. Starts begin May, ends end November. And the beating and Guarma was was speeded up the process off Arthur's tb. Also Arthur never had a break anymore being on the run all the time..
@lukethelegend9705
@lukethelegend9705 Год назад
It’s possible but I don’t think he’d be nearly as physically capable if he had tuberculosis
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 9 месяцев назад
Hosea has Pulmonary Fibrosis (aka Interstitial Lung Disease), the symptoms of which are: Shortness of breath, especially with activity. Dry, hacking cough that does not produce phlegm. Extreme tiredness and weakness. Loss of appetite/Unexplained weight loss. Discomfort in the chest. Labored breathing, which may be fast and shallow. Bleeding in the lungs (usually in the later stages and still not as much bleeding as either Lung Cancer or TB). *The life expectancy for someone with ILD (even in 1899) was THREE TO FIVE YEARS* (additionally, Hosea is rather gaunt, which could be explained by the loss of appetite/unexplained weight loss). IDL (Pulmonary Fibrosis) is an umbrella term used for a large group of diseases that cause scarring (fibrosis) of the lungs. The scarring causes stiffness in the lungs which makes it difficult to breathe and get oxygen to the bloodstream. Lung damage from ILDs is often irreversible and gets worse over time. Many things can increase the risk of or cause ILDs including genetics, and certain medications... medical treatments such as radiation or chemotherapy can also cause it (but those weren't possible in 1899). Exposure to hazardous materials has been linked to ILDs such as asbestosis and hypersensitivity pneumonitis. People with autoimmune diseases such as sarcoidosis or rheumatoid arthritis are also at increased risk of developing an ILD. Smoking can not only cause ILDs, but can make the condition much worse, which is why anyone diagnosed is strongly encouraged to quit. Unfortunately, in many cases, such as idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, the causes may be unknown.
@wasabi5338
@wasabi5338 8 дней назад
Hosea lived with TB longer because he wasnt constantly in strenous stress and doing physically demanding tasks. He was keeping himself warm and had been medicating himself with ginseng the entire time. Not alot of labor, and while he is a competent gunslinger, he was someone who would join the fights as a last resort Arthur on the other hand accepted his fate and is still leading a very physically active lifestyle on the weeks leading up to his death. Hunting, gunfights, fist fights, running. And trying to make things right. He didnt put effort to medicating or keeping himself warm like Hosea did, Hosea wore winter clothes in Horseshoe Overlook, thats how warm he was lmao Hell, Arthur spent the last mission robbing a train jumping from horses back and forth, running up a tower to cover Sadie, running down to save Abigail, returning to camp, more gunfight, running through the caves and climbing up a mountain while more shooting occurs before finally fighting Micah. It made total sense he'd ran out of breath much sooner than Hosea did.
@MisterStealYoKills
@MisterStealYoKills Год назад
It took me my 3rd play through to think he’s sick. Him and Arthur were talking and hosea started coughing like Arthur wen he got sick. And Arthur kept asking if he was ok.
@arnoldjanikowski7122
@arnoldjanikowski7122 Год назад
i like that at the very end making the point that arthur kinda took over hosea's job of being the voice of reason to dutch. i never once even thought about that but its spot on. great video brother
@gkohler14
@gkohler14 Год назад
I'm so happy you're still making RDR2 videos; I can't get enough of 'em. Thank you for another job well done ;)
@ash038
@ash038 Год назад
you forgot when he clearly states in chapter 3 when you get his favor quest when hes making a tonjc he says something like “even with my illness, this thing kept me alive, imagine the wonders itll do with you”
@MaxPowerzs
@MaxPowerzs Год назад
man, he pulls his revolver out so smoothly at 12:14
@kalex270
@kalex270 7 месяцев назад
Arthur looked up to Hosea so much that he essentially became him in the end. He worries more for the others than himself and wants to make sure they're safe before he dies. Loved their dynamic.
@VolkovVelikan
@VolkovVelikan 4 месяца назад
I have a theory, high honour Arthur takes more of the traits of Hosea which was always the Angel over the shoulder. And low honour Arthur takes more after his other less admirable father Dutch, which is more of a devil over his shoulder. Also I think Hosea suffered from some sort of lung cancer. But hard for anyone to know since it was in the 20th century when medical science knew what cancer was
@brandonenglund7516
@brandonenglund7516 Год назад
It is touching how genuinely concerned the gang is about Hosea. I just started another play through and I plan on REALLY taking my time to hear ALL these conversations.
@gtown_tom7046
@gtown_tom7046 Год назад
This game's writing is something else - Hosea was sick and getting pulled slowly closer to death while trying to do his best for the gang and temper Dutch's worst impulses. Which, coincidentally, was the exact position Arthur found himself in after Hosea died. After the gang lost both of them, it was over.
@alexs5744
@alexs5744 Год назад
4 years later and multiple playthroughs I still learn a thing or two about the game.
@MatiasMapache1337
@MatiasMapache1337 Год назад
I love this video, i knew Hosea was sick since my first playtrough but i never realised the paralelism between Arthur and Hosea in that aspect, also i never heard Hosea telling Jhon he should leave and never look back Also the take from 18:52 to 19:27 is wonderfull, the sun slowly hiding like the reverse of the ending for Arthur, the turtle roaming slowly (that always is around Hosea's grave) bringing some peacefull life to that place, the bayou and his fog that Hosea didn't quite like which makes it kinda funny he's buried there, and the corpse on the horse as a subtle reminder that death and life are just two sides of the same coin (I know, im over analyzing again, but i studied movies so i kinda have in the blood at this point)
@jetzor8054
@jetzor8054 Год назад
During my first playthrough for a short while I actually thought that Arthur got the tbc from Hosea since I had noticed Hosea coughing all the time. Great upload!
@King-Bowser1
@King-Bowser1 4 месяца назад
Hosea scaring the shit out of Sean never fails to make me smile 😂
@Miss_Torture
@Miss_Torture Год назад
Hosea deserved so much better
@friccle_
@friccle_ Год назад
The parallel’s between arthur and Hosea gets even closer with every detail we see. With how arthur tries saving everyone. Pushing his illness away to put others first. Its really sad
@manchannel7003
@manchannel7003 Год назад
I saw a one minute gaming video and I noticed hosea mentioned an illness. I wondered what it was. And here we are.
@skrillozedd
@skrillozedd Год назад
I love Fizhy's reaearch and stories. it's pretty remarkable, squeezing more & more out of this game. thanks Fizhy
@PurpleManYT1985
@PurpleManYT1985 3 месяца назад
1:55 I did not know hosea reincarnated as a snapping turtle lol
@Mr_Matty
@Mr_Matty Год назад
Love all your uploads man! Keeps luring me back to red dead.
@aaronarmstrong9776
@aaronarmstrong9776 4 месяца назад
I'm on my 4th playthrough. Thousands of hours in game and many more watching RU-vid videos, and I just heard a bit of dialogue at camp that is such an obscure reference that I'm convinced that this game is literally endless
@royalwe9r
@royalwe9r 9 месяцев назад
I don’t know if people will really truly appreciate how well done these videos are. Cheers, thanks for the amazing content!
@winterbalm
@winterbalm Год назад
at least he died quick by an enemy like a warrior
@liamrivera1514
@liamrivera1514 Год назад
I have never encountered any of this and I really tried putting as much attention in camp as I could 💀 thanks
@bryanhall1548
@bryanhall1548 3 месяца назад
Love the content, mate. I’ve been watching you for a few years but I finally subscribed to your channel. You do fantastic analysis on the Red Dead Redemption franchise and I appreciate the hard work you put into your videos.
@Scarboi2021
@Scarboi2021 Год назад
I think the phrase by hosea,"I saw some despicably evil things,and incredibly good thing done by the same people" is a comment on dutch's sanity and mental health alswell as arthurs everfluctuating honour and good/bad decisions
@chiefr9627
@chiefr9627 Год назад
I'd say after Hosea's death things became much more stressful for Arthur. So it's possible since things didn't get nearly as insane before Hosea's death it's possible he had TB and was able to live a uh 'relatively' less stressful life. He took medicine to treat himself and took time to enjoy the little things like fishing and hunting with friends. Where Arthur kept getting flung into the most dire of circumstances. Even the doctor told Arthur he'd have months or years of life he took things easy. Unfortunately Arthur didn't have the luxury of giving his body rest.
@stephenworth7948
@stephenworth7948 Год назад
What an absolute masterpiece of a game my favorite game of all time
@arnoldjanikowski7122
@arnoldjanikowski7122 Год назад
its very frustrating that they haven't done anything else with the game its still top quality the graphics and audio even 4.5 years later. they should have done a calader brothers story line the world and landscape is already built.
@chrisvzoutlaw
@chrisvzoutlaw Год назад
Agreed 🤠
@sharkspectre
@sharkspectre 3 месяца назад
You earned my subscription. I love how much you touched on
@Eveningstar28
@Eveningstar28 Год назад
Thank you Fizhy for another awesome video! And this time about my favorite RDR2 character right after Arthur ❤
@reecenotryhs
@reecenotryhs Год назад
It wasn't often I'd stop by the campfire when a story was being told, but for the old boy himself? Always, no questions asked.
@jospehcahill7320
@jospehcahill7320 Год назад
Do you know what I’ve always thought was sad is that the Pinkertons already knew what Dutch was going to do as he drew too much attention to himself and the gang. But Hosea sacrificed himself for Abigail and he instantly blamed Abigail for it saying her and John were rats. Hosea’s last act was an honourable one and Dutch instantly tries to blame other people for his death everyone aside from himself. If Dutch wasn’t so dumb and greedy Hosea would have been alive for way longer then he did.
@wrench4203
@wrench4203 Год назад
Yeah fs man shows how twisted Dutch is
@adamjohnson672
@adamjohnson672 Год назад
Will watch this later, great topic glad you are covering it.
@adamjohnson672
@adamjohnson672 Год назад
Beautifully done. Arthur reads his Journal at one point and mentions how Dutch was a father to him but Hosea was much more. Also Redsdeadbaby caught this interaction in Colter: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5FXLrFx3hI.html
@chris1142A
@chris1142A Год назад
Fihzy you do a fantastic job with this content. Keep it up my friend and thank you
@AirRice
@AirRice Год назад
I was once talking to my mother (who is a doctor specialising in internal medicine) about the story of RDR2, and she discussed that while TB was very common back in the day, it would have been highly unlikely for Arthur to have contracted it solely from his encounter with Mr. Downes, as TB is not *that* infectious that a single point of contact with infected tissue or bodily fluids can be infectious, and it is usually contracted more through continuous contact such as living together with someone with symptoms for a long time. My mind then immediately jumped to Hosea's coughing fits and illness, and whether it could have been TB, of which Arthur's symptoms perhaps worsened after this ordeals throughout the game that led to worse health. Of course, this all stems from the idea of whether the story is "realistic" to real life, and the story is of course more poignant if Arthur's worst moment of him beating a sickly man to near death led directly to his later situation. I think this is what was intended by the writers at Rockstar in the end. However, the idea that Hosea's illness was yet another factor contributing to Arthur being forced into such a situation is interesting to me nonetheless.
@pintolerance785
@pintolerance785 Год назад
Could be a working theory since Arthur was the 3rd member of the gang following Hosea and Dutch so he would have been the one around Hosea for the longest most like.
@Justinb1TV
@Justinb1TV Год назад
The idea behind them hunting the grizzly was so they could eat not just for shits and giggles 😂😂😂
@202cardline
@202cardline Год назад
Aside from introducing the legendary animal mechanic, I completely understand the stubborn pride to prove your ailing self to your own ailing self. Maybe I'm reading into it, but I could also see the failed hunting trip as a way to set bumbling Hosea up as someone you don't immediately side with, compared to big strong blustering Dutch. At least for a little while. When it comes to Hosea attempting things that he's just not suited for anymore, like when Hosea tried to lift that moonshine bottle and John had to step in - there's a number of things like that which are sprinkled throughout the story, which personally make me think it's intentional. It's a common human experience and people are stubborn and dumb. I get it!
@xFrxzxnx
@xFrxzxnx 2 месяца назад
Great video! Gotta appreciate the attention to detail 🙏🏾💯
@RyanRFC
@RyanRFC 2 месяца назад
Another thing that people often miss is in Guarma sometimes before doing a mission at the camp when Micah is standing guard Arthur can talk to him and he can say “I still can’t believe what happened in St Denis” and Micah replies “Hosea was dying anyway, and Lenny… well you know what they say about pride before a fall” and Arthur angrily says “that’s all you gotta say?”
@Jeff.3
@Jeff.3 Год назад
He's just got even more advanced lumbago
@smelltheglove2038
@smelltheglove2038 Год назад
Doctor said he needs a backiotomy.
@ronniepayne1404
@ronniepayne1404 Год назад
Hosea's comment about going to hell are interesting as he doesn't do much bad in the story. Granted he is older and clearly too ill to be a part of the proper criminality but it's curious considering there's not much that suggests he was bad, rather he kept bad company
@rodolfo9876a
@rodolfo9876a Год назад
In game yes, but I think that lore wise in the past he has done more of the killing or bad stuff that would lead him to believe he was going to hell. I personally believe he was able to redeem himself in a way.
@Red_clapzz
@Red_clapzz Год назад
Man I love it when u post it just makes me so happy u are the reason I keep coming back to rdr2 that and because it's the best game I've ever played except gta5 I love ur content and thank u so much for all the work u put into the videos man some people don't appreciate the work u put in like they really should I respect the grind man keep up the amazing work ur the best
@babybluesky9238
@babybluesky9238 5 месяцев назад
Crazy how I'd never even thought of him being unwell like that an also missed the non-cutscene dialogues some form of cancer possibly
@kipdaedricartifact
@kipdaedricartifact Год назад
I always felt Hosea’s illness was just a metaphor for the upcoming death of the camp. It’s really so subtle and serves no other purpose in the narrative. Hosea always seemed like the heart of the camp to me, and so if he dies, so does the gang. And that’s exactly what happened, things went catastrophic after his death.
@TonjaTreeceMomPlays
@TonjaTreeceMomPlays Год назад
As a nurse my guess has always been copd/emphysema as that seems pretty common, and unlike with tuberculosis he doesn’t seem to cough up blood. Just my 2 cents and the cannon in my head
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 Год назад
And those conditions can last for years, rather than months like with TB or lung cancer. And whatever he had didn’t seem to be contagious because nobody else ended up with it (aside from Arthur, who got it from other sources).
@yeslol9303
@yeslol9303 Год назад
I love that ride down the mountains. It’s so serene and relaxing
@noureddinechehaib5517
@noureddinechehaib5517 Год назад
Rdr is one of few games I feel attached to
@alexanderradcliffe5578
@alexanderradcliffe5578 Год назад
"Hey, Arthur!" 🤠
@alexanderradcliffe5578
@alexanderradcliffe5578 Год назад
Honestly, as simple (and to some, annoying) as that little interaction to start the hunting with Hosea mission is. It always warmed my heart just how happy he was to see Arthur. I really liked their friendship a lot
@maximusaralieous1728
@maximusaralieous1728 Год назад
Hosea is my favorite character in the game. Some of these interactions I've never seen and I'm on my second playthrough. Makes me realize I need to just spend several game days hovering around each camp. Made me a bit teary eyed when you showed the clio between him and Abigail, because her words echo Arthur's. Your editing and clips of him solemnly moving about were also great. There was something very special about his role for the gang. And you're right about the concern and affection shown to him by the gang, especially those that are 'good'. If RDR3 goes back in time, I hope we can play as Hosea. As for his disease, who's to say. A bad chest cold, flu or pneumonia could scar your lungs back then and there was no treatment to recover. He could be suffering tuberculosis. Arthur's mortality from it was rather swift, no doubt spurred by the stress of all the events, but many people lived for years with it. Could also be lung cancer, slowly creeping in. So many illnesses we shrug off today could end you back then, let alone leave long lasting and life changing effects.
@thehsvdude2488
@thehsvdude2488 Год назад
Man how do you release such in depth and well edited videos so frequently, keep it up man.
@oooooopppps12
@oooooopppps12 Год назад
I remember on my last playthrough thinking that Arthur was becoming Hosea throughout the game, trying to get dutch to realize the path they were on and taking the initiative to help those in the camp worth helping. I didnt think it went this deep
@damiannewton-yv7xf
@damiannewton-yv7xf Год назад
19:15 that horse rider is really sad about Hosea:(
@NIGHTSTALKER848
@NIGHTSTALKER848 Год назад
Saw that and I was like that's either the one random encounter where you save the guy and take him to the doc or it's the other where he's already dead and you look him and get a silver tooth and that's it
@ajmijangos925
@ajmijangos925 Месяц назад
Hosea could’ve had tuberculosis as it affects different people differently, as well as different strains. However, I think it’s actually a form of lung cancer, as this was actually pretty common as many people smoked, but also was misdiagnosed as things like tuberculosis and other illnesses.
@irighterotica
@irighterotica Год назад
I appreciate you not showing the moment he was shot. It still stings, even all these years later. Edit: Nvm, I spoke too soon.
@AlleyCatNinja
@AlleyCatNinja Год назад
If by "he" you mean Hosea, then you apparently didn't watch the video. 18:44
@irighterotica
@irighterotica Год назад
@@AlleyCatNinja I did, but not to completion (yet anyway). Thanks for the heads up though.
@WaltuhVlogs
@WaltuhVlogs Год назад
Very sad but lets start a go fund me for Hosea!
@hayleevasquez3455
@hayleevasquez3455 Год назад
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but one of Hosea’s camp item requests is ginseng, which he’s crafting into medicine when Arthur approaches. The dialogue talks somewhat openly about Hosea being sick early on
@nategordon9904
@nategordon9904 Год назад
Bro i just wanna say i love ur videos. i used to think i was the only one obsessed with the world of rdr
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