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Is Uncle Red Harlow? - Red Dead Redemption 2 

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This theory has always sounded ludicrous to me, however today we are actually going to be entertaining the idea that Red Dead Redemption 2's character, Uncle, could be Red Dead Revolver protagonist, Red Harlow.
Please expect a dissatisfying answer.
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@Xx_MelonLord_xX
@Xx_MelonLord_xX Год назад
Real fans know that uncle is actually Gavin
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
The true Buncle
@mr_business89
@mr_business89 Год назад
All this time we have been trying to find Gavin but in the end it was just old lumbago diseased man
@vodnikdubs1724
@vodnikdubs1724 Год назад
@@Fizhy🅱️ig 🅱️uncle
@Lonestar.Metal666
@Lonestar.Metal666 Год назад
Gavin was killed by the Murfree brood.
@padraigocallaghan6627
@padraigocallaghan6627 Год назад
@@Lonestar.Metal666 wait actually?
@joshuajackson530
@joshuajackson530 Год назад
I think you shouldn't assume that uncle was born. There is plenty of evidence that shows uncle is an immortal primordial force of nature.
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
True
@michaeldebidart
@michaeldebidart Год назад
Yeah he's immortal except for that pesky "dying at the end of rdr1" incident
@Storm91000
@Storm91000 Год назад
@@michaeldebidart that’s just Pinkerton propaganda
@AtlasNL
@AtlasNL Год назад
@@michaeldebidart immortal =/= invincible
@2geekygamers
@2geekygamers Год назад
The primordial force that chose Uncle is known only by one name: Lumbago.
@TheJoker138
@TheJoker138 Год назад
I’ve always loved the theory that Revolver is a version of true events that did happen to him, but exaggerated by Uncle to the point of ridiculousness like all his stories. The broad strokes happened, but not the insane shit.
@Detahramet
@Detahramet Год назад
I feel like this is the strongest explaination that still adds to Uncle as a character.
@ACLA23
@ACLA23 Год назад
The only problem is the timeline really. Uncles far too old
@TheJoker138
@TheJoker138 Год назад
@@ACLA23 Doesn’t matter, it’s been turned into legend due to his own exaggeration and the telephone game being played at those campfires, or even because Revolver is the fictionalized versions of the events told to John Marston by Uncle when he was still a kid. The half remembered exaggerations of an old drunk told to a child, remembered a decade or more later as the basis for a fiction book that was “inspired” by those events. We know RDR as a whole exists within GTA as a series of books by the “real” John already.
@NotRJ001
@NotRJ001 Год назад
​@@TheJoker138 it would actually matter because why would you try to tell a story about yourself and exaggerate it. That's like me telling a story when I was 15 but say I was actually 22 years old.
@KC.45
@KC.45 Год назад
​​@@Detahramet I beg to differ. Uncle never narrates stories that are remotely similar to Red Dead Revolver's narrative, so if he never did, then how can you be so sure of it happening anyway?
@cehodson
@cehodson Год назад
I personally like the idea that revolver is a dramatization of young uncles life before the gang.
@Kyle-xy3dx
@Kyle-xy3dx Год назад
The one shot kid!
@anotherhappylanding4746
@anotherhappylanding4746 Год назад
​@@Kyle-xy3dx" Alright I ain't even gonna ask why"
@themangledwither
@themangledwither Год назад
​@@anotherhappylanding4746 you're a sad man Arthur
@DanteMayCry-qv5kf
@DanteMayCry-qv5kf 11 месяцев назад
@themangledwither but I know you love me
@farhaanmehmood-kt5be
@farhaanmehmood-kt5be 10 месяцев назад
Sureee. Your my faviroute parisite.
@oldschoolfrp2326
@oldschoolfrp2326 Год назад
Uncle openly criticizes Dutch and calls him a would-be king, and Dutch calls Uncle a court jester - It’s often said that a jester was the only one at court who could point out a king’s flaws and get away with it, since his antics wouldn’t be taken seriously
@ZackHolden
@ZackHolden 5 месяцев назад
I just thought the same thing during the video
@user-xp8nq5mf9y
@user-xp8nq5mf9y 4 месяца назад
when we laugh at the jester, the king laugh at us.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 7 месяцев назад
The funniest conversation about Uncle in II is between John and Jack when Jack asks why everyone calls him Uncle then asks if Uncle was old when Jack was a kid and John goes "He was old when I was a kid son."
@REL-420
@REL-420 4 месяца назад
I read that last part in John's Voice😂😂
@stevenculbertson7934
@stevenculbertson7934 4 месяца назад
So did i lol
@kawaiionee-chan9557
@kawaiionee-chan9557 2 месяца назад
@@REL-420same😂😂
@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD
@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD 2 месяца назад
Proof that uncle is actually an anomalous entity here to spite everyone, roast them, and trick them into serving his will.
@dadotic
@dadotic Год назад
The scene with him calling out Dutch and being threatened just gives me the vibe that Uncle is sitting there like "Boy, I'm twice your age, seen and done things that'd make you shit yourself.", but he's not dumb and plays it off as a joke.
@ACLA23
@ACLA23 Год назад
Funny cuz uncle is only like 6 years older than Dutch
@ellisberry8747
@ellisberry8747 Год назад
@@ACLA23 must’ve been a rough six years. But then,the next six years weren’t so kind to Dutch either…
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад
I got the same vibe he was itching to rip Dutch a new asshole he clearly didn't trust him byt respected how the gamg members respected him
@solveigsgang2909
@solveigsgang2909 Год назад
@@ACLA23 the age difference actually only being that much kinda gives even more credit to uncle cus he sure as shit looks way older than only six years 😭
@savannahpaige3670
@savannahpaige3670 Год назад
​@@solveigsgang2909 ya idk where TF this idiot came up with that "6 yr diff" considering neither shares how old they are in either game except John telling Jack "idk how old uncle is, he was old when I was ur age!" And uncle says "I was born between the fall of 45 and fall of Rome!" Witch would mean uncle is 50 yrs or so at least!!! Dutch Is deff younger, by 10 plus yrs
@Grand-Theft-Sasquatch
@Grand-Theft-Sasquatch Год назад
Regardless of whether or not Uncle is actually Red Harlow, I most definitely feel like there is more to Uncles past than we realize. It wouldn’t surprise me if it turned out he really was some sort of badass gunslinger who simply grew old and turned into the lazy drunk we know and love.
@lynette50
@lynette50 Год назад
Just like Gene Wilders character in Blazing Saddles...
@pintolerance785
@pintolerance785 Год назад
Uncle did outlive every other male in the gang that we know of except for John and Jack.
@savannahpaige3670
@savannahpaige3670 Год назад
​@@pintolerance785 ya he outlived john by like 40 mins! Lol
@robertphillips213
@robertphillips213 Год назад
Better to be a lazy drunk than a hardcore killer and I get the feeling Uncle did enough killing to lose his taste for it. Being lazy and drunk made Uncle happy. All throughout the game he kept encouraging Arthur and John to find something that made them happy, perhaps seeing himself in them.
@isabelcranepath2410
@isabelcranepath2410 Год назад
i will protect uncle with my life.. lumbago and all
@Microman504
@Microman504 11 месяцев назад
I've always believed he is Red Harlow: Think about it, Uncle died defending Beecher's Hope and his family, if he is Red Harlow, his story ended like it started...
@minhduongtrinh8427
@minhduongtrinh8427 7 месяцев назад
WOAH !
@ELMARINOAZT3CA0835
@ELMARINOAZT3CA0835 5 месяцев назад
If this theory turned out to be true it would be Poetic and Tragic to think about Uncle (Red) Dying, trying to protect a family something that he couldn't do when he was a kid and dying on a Farm
@frankcastle8397
@frankcastle8397 4 месяца назад
Red Harlow is not Uncle.
@jaredwilliams2357
@jaredwilliams2357 4 месяца назад
Also worth pointing out rockstar did this exact thing with Jack and Agent Ross meeting each other for both the first and last time by a river
@ranchfromranchrand
@ranchfromranchrand 2 месяца назад
OH HOLY SH-
@RedsDeadBaby
@RedsDeadBaby Год назад
The one thing that always tells me otherwise is when uncle tells Pearson about his childhood. He lost his parents at 9 and red lost his at 14
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
It's the unreliable storytelling of both Uncle and Red Dead Revolver as not 100% canon and yet gets mentioned events wise loosely regardless that may provide pause for details to differ, however it's pretty clear that Uncle would need vastly different circumstances to fit into the life of Red Harlow as we knew it.
@micah9400
@micah9400 Год назад
My two favorite red dead creators talking never thought I'd see the day
@namedclaiming821
@namedclaiming821 Год назад
Maybe uncle forgot his age He’s like 60 something
@labrat2306
@labrat2306 Год назад
It is not actually known what age Red's parents died at, his age is not stated at any point in the game. Not only is his age not mentioned, but neither is the year. At no point do they give a date.
@KC.45
@KC.45 Год назад
@@Fizhy Uncle already knew the gang since before the 1880s (approx.; John says "40 years ago"), according to dialogue from RDR1.
@SPQRKlio
@SPQRKlio Год назад
My answer is always: Why not, it's fun to think that the Red Harlow stories grew from the seed of Uncle's young escapades. I enjoy watching different takes on it, whether or not the vid agrees with me :)
@gabrielchastain6091
@gabrielchastain6091 Год назад
You are a polite, sweet, positive, and non toxic individual and I like that Stay safe god bless
@Mackenzie002
@Mackenzie002 Год назад
@@gabrielchastain6091 seems like everywhere there’s toxic people such a shame
@gabrielchastain6091
@gabrielchastain6091 Год назад
@@Mackenzie002 yeah and I'm not gonna sit here and act like I've never got pissed off in a debate but I try not to be mean
@SPQRKlio
@SPQRKlio Год назад
@@gabrielchastain6091 Same to you, and thank you so much--I try my best, anyway!
@TrippyStefTV
@TrippyStefTV Год назад
Because it’s straight up insulting and shitting all over revolver just to try to tie it more to the redemption games
@gphjr1444
@gphjr1444 Год назад
Always liked Uncle. Sure he's annoying but he clearly has wit that he masks as a lazy fool but you don't live as long as he has with just luck alone. He's clearly well traveled and has a knack for reading people. He clearly has Dutch figured out because he's probably seen dozens of men like him over time.
@nickbuckley4371
@nickbuckley4371 9 месяцев назад
Also he extremely intelligent but plays dumb to hide it he could easily run the gang successfully
@the_cowpoke
@the_cowpoke Год назад
We just need an uncle game, that would make it all clear
@Belisimo125
@Belisimo125 Год назад
Uncle's Redemption
@WhiteJeezus
@WhiteJeezus Год назад
​@@Belisimo125 Red Dead Lumbego
@MAILBOX_12
@MAILBOX_12 11 месяцев назад
L U M B E G O ‘ S R E D E M P T I O N
@nickbuckley4371
@nickbuckley4371 7 месяцев назад
Red dead lumbago the legends of uncle
@nonameman7114
@nonameman7114 5 месяцев назад
We fall off our horse and get diagnosed with Lumbago half way through the game
@kloveda5
@kloveda5 Год назад
I could see Uncle being a Civil War Vet. I feel that he is much older than we realize. Could be how he got his nickname, especially if he was an older service member in the unit. Due to the trauma of the war he drops his name because that part of him died on the battlefield and adopted “Uncle” to remind himself of his fallen brothers and he doesn’t want to talk about his past because he just wants to forget (also to avoid the political fallout if a person he is talking to fought for the opposite side of the war). This could also explain his “lazy” attitude in Rdr1, he isn’t lazy but actually much older than we once thought. It would also give him a redemption line at the end of Rdr1 trying to right the wrongs he committed during the war.
@SpeedDemon55
@SpeedDemon55 Год назад
This is a much better idea than the absolutely stupid ones like the one the video is based upon.
@pintolerance785
@pintolerance785 Год назад
​@@SpeedDemon55 somedays I wake up, and I'm happy. Then I remember that people like you exist, and that changes my mood right quickly.
@Nictona
@Nictona Год назад
That may he partially true. He may have been in the service with Dutch's father in the war. Brothers in arms. That maybe how he got the name uncle. Dutch called him uncle.
@silvirhunter3607
@silvirhunter3607 Год назад
​@@Nictona Now that I can believe.
@buildingglocks5797
@buildingglocks5797 10 месяцев назад
Uncle would be 15 at the end of the war
@natalieerib
@natalieerib Год назад
Bold of people to criticize you for having an opinion when a certain other creator who beats dead horses for a living exists. Great job as always.
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
Oh I beat dead horses for a living too, but at least I enjoy it
@thedisturbingartist7224
@thedisturbingartist7224 Год назад
Say that hypothetically, after the events of Red Dead Revolver, Red Harlow was challenged by several more gunman. He never got any rest because of his name and history. Eventually with his age, physical exhaustion, stress, and rampant alcohol consumption he wore down. He got out of shape and developed a bad back. Because people would come after him if he told the truth about who he was and what he had done in his past, he got into the habit of telling lies all the time to throw people off. He grew a big beard to hide his scars. And joined up with Dutch's gang so he could be in the safety of a group of Outlaws who don't even know he's actually Red Harlow. It would be kind of ironic that he spent all of his youthful days hunting down evildoers, only to take shelter in their numbers in his twilight years. It's got the Rockstar storytelling charm to it.
@askloiue4062
@askloiue4062 10 месяцев назад
I don't think he got hunted or ever became an outlaw since he never cared about the money, he truly only cared about his revenge
@kilgore1863
@kilgore1863 9 месяцев назад
After reading the first 3 words, Ben Shapiro’s voice came to my head
@kingman-fm4dq
@kingman-fm4dq 6 месяцев назад
​@@kilgore1863same
@jaredwilliams2357
@jaredwilliams2357 4 месяца назад
@@askloiue4062He did kill a governor though, even if he was corrupt, Red probably would have been on the run from the law the rest of his life. It would make sense why he would change his name and appearance and fall in with Dutch’s boys
@jackbluehq6653
@jackbluehq6653 3 месяца назад
​@@jaredwilliams2357 Red killed a governor yes, but there's nothing to prove that Red would be found out as the killer. All of the Governors men were slaughtered by Red Harlow himself, and Annie, Buffalo Solider and the Sheriff would obviously not snitch on him. Because one, they appear as very honourable and good people, and two for Annie and Buffalo they wouldn't want to snitch on Red as he did give them 5,000 in gold at the end and also because Annie and Buffalo did semi take place in the raid with Red Harlow meaning they'd also be arrested. As for the Sheriff, he himself states that he doesn't want Red to be hanged for it and clearly respects Red alot. So no, Red probably would not become wanted for the murder of Griffon because simply there would be no way for the army to find out it was Red
@Evarakeus
@Evarakeus Год назад
I think Uncle being Red would fit in quite nicely with R*'s misanthropic view of westerns. Red's a heavily romanticized and hyperbolic story which, as is presented by that NPC conversation, is seen as aspirational in the R*'s version of America. For that same Red to turn into just another fat, lazy old drunk like the rest of us feels like such a fitting twist on the story. Not to mention Uncle's reticence towards his past, which would make Red's folk heroic stature rather ironic if the man himself is ashamed of it. None of this is evidence that he is Red, of course, but I think from a story-telling perspective it'd be quite fitting if he was.
@maxrockatanskytheroadwarrior
@maxrockatanskytheroadwarrior 10 месяцев назад
But it would be dissapointing if Uncle really was Red Harlow because then that would mean he really let himself go
@costalsthechad8992
@costalsthechad8992 10 месяцев назад
@@maxrockatanskytheroadwarriorthat’s the point, that this great american hero of a legendary western tale is all but a bumbling drunk now, is what makes sense with rockstars view in romanticism
@John-115
@John-115 5 месяцев назад
A drunken hero who died defending the one’s he loved in the end tho
@davidotto3731
@davidotto3731 Месяц назад
Those events of a young man could be the reason Uncle drinks like he does.
@racingfuel28
@racingfuel28 9 месяцев назад
Uncle standing there talking at a clearly audible level about a really messed up childhood/adolescent age of having both his parents die, and having to make it on his own, and Susan just giving a hearty “good morning Arthur” like nothing😂 That might be the most Red Dead camp interaction ever🤣🤣
@Byson1549
@Byson1549 10 месяцев назад
There are also some other supporting reasons to uncle being red Harlow, 1. Uncle carries a red cloth in his back pocket, like the one red wears. 2. Uncles revolver is exactly the same as Harlows accept uncles is a bit old and rusty due to his aging. 3. In rdr1 you can actually see some markings on uncles hands, some people think it’s just his hand but others think it’s red Harlows burn marks🤨
@kaydens6964
@kaydens6964 6 месяцев назад
He was pretty impressive leading the group during the Cornwall robbery, he was definitely someone familiar with that life.
@chipstick3856
@chipstick3856 Год назад
A more “canon” theory that is still just as absurd is that Uncle is actually Otis Miller who faked his death with a stunt double and fell in with Dutch due to his similar ideals. He knows the danger that being in the spotlight brings, adopting the persona of “Uncle” and the “camp rat” as Arthur calls him. Not to mention they look kinda similar, at least from Otis Miller’s cigarette card.
@tannerrutland2730
@tannerrutland2730 4 месяца назад
Might just be a coincidence but uncle also uses a schofield which is also what otis's revolver is
@StopXPlease
@StopXPlease 3 месяца назад
Would make sense when you find his gun, since along with it is a bunch of erotic photos, something Uncle would definitely do.
@pancrase9048
@pancrase9048 Год назад
My theory is that Uncle knew of Red Harlow, he might've befriended and rode with him at some point. Guess nobody in the Van der Linde gang ever bothered to ask or didn't really care what the old man said because he's looked at as the drunk a bum but he knows way more than what he lets on. I love the part where owned he Dutch during the campfire dialog.
@ApricityGlow
@ApricityGlow Год назад
Aye, I've been imagining the same thing with Uncle having some sort of run-in or history with Red. First time I've seen someone else with the same idea.
@cream_cheeze5871
@cream_cheeze5871 Год назад
As someone who is aging myself here (42). I will say that as we grow older we learn a thing or three. The wisdom we gain changes us in ways that you may not anticipate until time teaches us. Not to get all deep here lol. Just saying that to me Uncle was someone who knew a lot more then he let on. I enjoyed his character very much. He may have had a sometimes silly and lazy demeanor, but he was also fiercely loyal and stoic in his own unique way. Always enjoy your videos Fiz. Keep up the great work my friend!
@michaeldebidart
@michaeldebidart Год назад
I turn 44 this year and you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. I used to be terrified to turn 40 but I have a completely different outlook on life than I did when I was 20. Very well said in my opinion 👌
@moose2345
@moose2345 Месяц назад
I agree turn 45 tomorrow and I grew to finally understand what the old timers and my old man use to say “ if I could only go back to my younger years knowing what I know now”
@jrgarrett1337
@jrgarrett1337 Год назад
uncle isn't red harlow, Fizhy actually is and he's just trying to draw attention off of himself
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
Fuark you got me
@antifurryfoundation55
@antifurryfoundation55 Год назад
Fizhy is Uncle
@MichaelChamlee-fx1su
@MichaelChamlee-fx1su 9 месяцев назад
The mystery has finally been solved!?!!!!?!?!??
@edboy3644
@edboy3644 8 месяцев назад
I thought Fizhy was Gavin?
@MilesProwerTailsFox
@MilesProwerTailsFox 8 месяцев назад
Half the video explains that info in the game is more of an exaggeration of popular stories and not a extreme accurate info source and yet you still want to take it as a extreme accurate info source
@redjaypictures4528
@redjaypictures4528 9 месяцев назад
One thing that i’ve seen in my play-through is that out in the RDR1 region of RDR2, you can actually find an abandoned cabin out in the desert that is all but identical to the one red and his family lived in before it was torched, so SOME bits of RD-revolver had to have happened in the redemption timeline
@bobafittness1346
@bobafittness1346 Год назад
Recently I was looking up on your videos and couldn’t find one on why Van Horn feels so creepy, strange and hostile. Please do one!
@niofo7713
@niofo7713 Год назад
i think that stuff like being a bounty hunter and being born on a ranch is just a typical western trope. having their parents killed as well actually, orphan seeking vengeance is a very compelling storytelling device. if they were both, idk, marine biologists and born in korea that would be distinct enough to make some parallels, but the way it is shown, it's just ambience.
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 Год назад
That’s what I was thinking. Uncle may have been a bounty hunter at some point and may have lived on, worked on, or owned a ranch? So did a lot of people back then, especially in the west. Like Fizhy said, any parallels between the two are so generic that it really doesn’t mean much. Besides, imo Uncle is too old to be Red Harlow (he was definitely born in the 1830s or 40s), and their physical appearances don’t match. Uncle is not Red Harlow.
@willjohn1117
@willjohn1117 4 месяца назад
​@terminallumbago6465 I like to think that's just age and whiskey taking its toll on his skills and memory. He may have not been Red but he definitely has seen his fair share. He can't survive to this age by just being a parasite. He had to have at least known how to take care of himself since he was orphaned.
@waffler-yz3gw
@waffler-yz3gw 3 месяца назад
@@terminallumbago6465counterargument: itd be cool
@Wumbonington
@Wumbonington Год назад
I honestly dont care if Uncle is or isnt Red Harlow, He will always be the One Shot Kid in my eyes.
@mellomoose_
@mellomoose_ Год назад
i dont want a 3rd red dead redemption (at least not with the gang we know) but i gotta be honest a spin off following uncle as a young gun slinger/bounty hunter would be interesting
@christianmohr2993
@christianmohr2993 9 месяцев назад
They already made that game... It's called Red Dead revolver. 😅
@scarzandy436
@scarzandy436 4 месяца назад
Red dead revolver 2
@tru2faded
@tru2faded 2 месяца назад
⁠red dead revolver is folklore in the red dead universe. but bro whatever floats your boat lol
@SewingMink160
@SewingMink160 Год назад
Uncle was a badass in rdr1 who went down fighting and is far smarter then we think in rdr2. Itd be nice to have him be a bit of that universes red whos in retirement and relaxes around after everything hes been through. People assume when you say "Uncle is red" they think you're talking about the Revolver Red. When in reality were talking about an alternate red whos stories have been exagerated. But without a doubt weather he is red or not there is something about uncle which reeks of "retired old gunslinger" well that and whiskey.
@emilskjaerlund4091
@emilskjaerlund4091 Год назад
Its funny, I have seen people be like "he said that the used to be called the one shot kid." Meanwhile, uncle also said to john, "I cant move like i used to, and I never was that fast" (red harlow is known for being a bounty hunter and a quick drawer)
@catwithevilintentions2632
@catwithevilintentions2632 Год назад
A lot of people do tend to look down on themselves, so that could just be him doing that.
@labrat2306
@labrat2306 Год назад
He is not that fast compared to some of the bosses, (jack at the brimstone battle royale for example, always gets his pistol out before you, even if you draw first.)
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 Год назад
@@catwithevilintentions2632Uncle is the type to build himself up, not talk himself down. He calls himself a “one shot kid” jokingly to Arthur but he’s serious when he says he was never that fast to John. He’s not Red
@brandonaumiller3997
@brandonaumiller3997 10 месяцев назад
I think it’s just him humbling himself
@TheLwaller09
@TheLwaller09 Год назад
To me, Uncle is the direct antithesis to Jim "Boy" Calloway in the game - you can tell Calloway's exploits were completely embellished and even outright made up as we progress through his story, riding the notoriety coattails of real gunslingers and killers. I believe Uncle to be the opposite - no hes not Red Harlow but i believe he probably fought in the last year or two of the civil war (a lot of kids joined at 14-15) and may have even known or met Red Harlow at some point. The point is, I believe that at some point in his past, Uncle has a lot of history and experience that actually happened that *should* have been the focus of a book like the one that was written about Calloway and his fake accomplishments.
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 Год назад
This would be true if Uncle was actually a good shooter but in any mission he’s involved in he’s not seen doing anything extraordinary, he’s just supplying support fire but rarely hits anyone. Uncle also embellishes his past like his Africa story and all the other times Arthur called him out on his bs. Even in red dead 1 when he fights against army boys he gets shot almost immediately
@That_oneguy_mane
@That_oneguy_mane 10 месяцев назад
I think what really sold it for me was the camper who talked about red Harlow, and also how twin rocks is in both games. So both have to be around the same area. And I like to picture uncle as the old ultimate badass.
@LocatingGoku
@LocatingGoku Год назад
What makes me think that uncle might be red harlow is the fact that uncle never says he's red harlow, which is something red harlow would do since he wants to hide his identity so as to not face any legal consequences for his actions in red dead.
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 Год назад
Because the gang of outlaws he’s riding with who are currently being hunted down by the law would care if he was Red? That doesn’t make sense either. He’s not Red because not only are they not the same age (Uncle is at least 10 years older than Red) they aren’t the same race, and they don’t have any distinguishable traits like the scars which rockstar would’ve 100% included if he was but they didn’t. The only evidence that supports the theory is that we don’t know Uncles read name and the “one shot kid” line that can easily be passed off as a mere reference
@asneakylawngnome5792
@asneakylawngnome5792 11 месяцев назад
I think Uncle is Red Harlow. He did all those things in the stories, but it’s HIGHLY romanticized and the actual events are really embarrassing for him so he keeps it a secret. Either way even if he isn’t, I like to think he is hiding a past he’d rather have left behind. He’d rather have his actions be remembered as uncle, and not for the past of who he once was.
@frankcastle8397
@frankcastle8397 7 месяцев назад
Red Harlow is not Uncle.
@craigsovilla6578
@craigsovilla6578 4 месяца назад
​@frankcastle8397 what about the red cloth that he carries around that is similar looking to Red's? His birth year being the same and his conversation with Pearson about watching his parents killed?
@frankcastle8397
@frankcastle8397 4 месяца назад
​@@craigsovilla6578Red Harlow was born in the 1860s. Uncle was born in 1849.
@tyranniccubone8259
@tyranniccubone8259 Год назад
Considering that there are fame dependant campfire stories about John Marston literally being impenetrable by bullets, it follows that the stories about Red Harlow similarly exaggerated tales, which are nonetheless true to some extent.
@happyslapsgiving5421
@happyslapsgiving5421 9 месяцев назад
The age difference actually corroborates the Penny Dreadful theory. There was this badass gunslinger that was famous when he was around 25ish. His story became legend, and roughly 10 years later someone manages to print a collection of stories about his life, but of course the story will present him as the age he had back when he was so infamous, even though the real man is now older, at the time of printing.
@satelliteguy2621
@satelliteguy2621 Год назад
I think uncle would be a potential protagonist for rdr3 if it ever happened
@kristopherruiz7644
@kristopherruiz7644 11 месяцев назад
Well he does die I guess, but I do need someone to die in my games in this franchise for thematic purposes.
@nickbuckley4371
@nickbuckley4371 10 месяцев назад
Maybe a kind like war stories in battlefield with all the old gunslingers but way more fleshed out
@satelliteguy2621
@satelliteguy2621 10 месяцев назад
@@kristopherruiz7644 his redemption arc would be getting lumbago and passing of the role of main character to someone else
@maydubz1471
@maydubz1471 9 месяцев назад
I always assumed that Red Harlow served as an example of how Gunslingers and Bounty Hunters were wrapped in this fantasy via Dime Novels. Just as Dutch wanted to be a King with Knights, Kids grew up wanting to be Gunslingers and Bounty Hunters, something Uncle saw both sides of the gritty coin.
@LovelessDogg1
@LovelessDogg1 Год назад
I remember using the Red Harlow skin for the first game’s online mode. Whether or not he’s uncle, he is kind of in the first game. 😋 I also like to think Red’s stories are romanticized tales of Uncles past he wants to run away from like the rest of the gang wants to run away from their problems. I also feel the same way about RDR1&2 being romanticized tales from Jack’s perspective after he becomes a writer. All of it is mostly head-canon, but it’s is just fun to think of it that way.
@mattwood2894
@mattwood2894 Год назад
This, like a lot of your works, is wonderfully written and has a lot of curiosity and thoughtful analysis. You're a great media critic.
@TreeTop1324
@TreeTop1324 2 месяца назад
Uncle was always the main character but the lumbago was hiding his true strength
@D-X-Neil
@D-X-Neil 2 месяца назад
I've just found your channel but I can't stop binging these documentary/theory type of videos
@Brianna-je8ve
@Brianna-je8ve Год назад
Love your videos ! Thank you for posting red dead content pretty regularly.
@rdf4315
@rdf4315 5 месяцев назад
I don't know if anyone told you this but at the end of RDR1 jack tell John about a book he just read, it was about Red and his adventures, Jack talked about red almost like a role model he wished to grow up and be like one day, I just find it funny if Uncle really was red then Jack got to meet his idol without ever knowing it.
@raphael2407
@raphael2407 11 месяцев назад
"I'm not lazy. I just don't like working. There's a difference" ~ Uncle What a wise man he is...
@23jrza
@23jrza Год назад
I never knew that his parents also died when he was just 9 years old. Interesting… I think rockstar wanted us to question if he is Red Harlow. He actually really did look like him in RDR1
@ghostwarrior3878
@ghostwarrior3878 4 месяца назад
I always believed that somehow when playing revolver and the first redemption game that there might have been some connection between Annie Stokes and Bonnie Mcfarline, maybe she was Bonnie's great-grandmother or something maybe a relative of some kind. But that also brings up another question, how far would brimstone be from say Valentine in the Red Dead universe or beecher's hope where John Marston's home is located. And that's going off the basis that in some form or fashion these universes are connected loosely.
@Jesse-wl6um
@Jesse-wl6um Год назад
Content is content my friend. You give the RDR2 community the opportunity to discuss theories on the subject. Every character will have a background and Uncle is a vague name lol
@DyingBobby
@DyingBobby Год назад
My theory is that Red Harlow was a fictional character In the latter 2 games. A fictional folk tale written into a book. Sort of a caricature of the many gunslingers of the past. He never existed in RDRedemption and RDR2, however Revolver was a game based off of the fictional books.
@jimmygutarthn5821
@jimmygutarthn5821 Год назад
I just love your red dead redemption two videos when I was like 13. I still love watching all of them now that I started playing the game again and watching your videos again you are amazing
@leviathan_is_me
@leviathan_is_me Год назад
Also, in RDR1 Uncle has the scars and a glove always on his right hand. It was meant as an Easter egg kind of "is it? Could it be?...nah.." type thing and people went apeshit about it. So they removed that stuff in RDR2 to show he isn't Red, but got whatever between RDR2 and 1. Edit: Like Tenkai Nankobo is Samanosuke Akechi in Onimusha: D.o.D. (though they flat out say it there). If your familiar with that series.
@loganhart5789
@loganhart5789 Год назад
In my opinion, Uncle is Red Harlow. He dies helping John’s family survive so Jack doesn't have to grow up the way he did. Sadly, like Arthur, John, and Abigail wanted for Jack, didn't happen. Jack went for revenge, Like John and Red Harlow before him
@SxVaNm345
@SxVaNm345 Год назад
Revenge to Redemption… “Revenge is a fool’s game.”
@frontdoor3417
@frontdoor3417 Год назад
in my opinion halo and mario are in the same universe because its a dream by snake from metal gears solid
@frankcastle8397
@frankcastle8397 7 месяцев назад
Red Harlow is not Uncle.
@Drexzzz4
@Drexzzz4 6 месяцев назад
​@@frankcastle8397why you say that
@keecko8169
@keecko8169 6 месяцев назад
I like to think the reason uncle has no hand scarring is just due to natural healing, assuming Uncle is around the age of 60-65 in rdr2, and somewhere in his 80s in rdr1, red harlow wouldve had to have been born in the 1830s to 1840s. Since rdr2 takes place in 1899, and in 1911, rdr1's time frame, uncle would be in his 80s if he WAS born in the 1830s. So we can assume Uncle/Red Harlow was born in 1831. And rdr would take place in the 1850s-early 1860s. This would add up for Uncle not having much scarring, since the scars would have to have been caused a bit before 1850. Scar wounds due heal over time, becoming flatter and duller until they're essentially non-visible. So a mininum of 49ish years should def work
@bleepbloop-jz8pk
@bleepbloop-jz8pk Год назад
There are 2 important details you didn't talk about, if you look closely, uncle has a burn mark on one of his hands and a red piece of cloth attached to his pants .
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 Год назад
He doesn’t have any “burns” on his hand, and either way if it’s not in a scorpion shape like Reds burn on his palm then it’s irrelevant. Not to mention Uncle has no scars on his face like Red did which would’ve been added if rockstar truly wanted to connect the two. You guys also forget Red was half Native and even had the skin but 15 years later he’s suddenly an old white man with a country accent?
@turtlesquare7174
@turtlesquare7174 11 месяцев назад
@@josephstalin2606e watch this video. Uncle has a scar on his nose as the same way Red’s one was. And Read dead revolver is a canon game but with the story told a little differently. Did you even watch this video??
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 11 месяцев назад
@@turtlesquare7174 I did, did you? Even he says that he still thinks Uncle and Red are separate characters. And Red had more than just a nose scar his scar was nearly identical to Johns but on both sides of his face and that would’ve shown on Uncles face if he was him, and no the beard wouldn’t fully cover such scars. Not to mention the scorpion burn scar is the most significant scar he had and Uncle doesn’t have it at all. I can go on and on about the multiple differences between both characters, many were already said in the video, but even he admits that it’s just a fun theory and nothing more
@turtlesquare7174
@turtlesquare7174 11 месяцев назад
@@josephstalin2606 no
@josephstalin2606
@josephstalin2606 11 месяцев назад
@@turtlesquare7174 Imagine trying to start a debate only to back down when presented evidence. Also liking your own comment doesn’t make it more valid just a heads up
@jamescpapg
@jamescpapg Год назад
"Put me out of my majesty, you misery."
@KC.45
@KC.45 Год назад
Words that were overlooked by the human race.
@jamescpapg
@jamescpapg Год назад
@@KC.45 Indeed. If only the human race had paid attention to the wisdom of the One-Shot Kid also known as "everyone's favorite Uncle."
@thesouthernbearsfan
@thesouthernbearsfan Год назад
Ima just say the interaction between Dutch and uncle is so wholesome
@lorenzoquirante8685
@lorenzoquirante8685 Год назад
Idk man that stuff felt kinda tense knowing where the game goes
@prufrockpenp643
@prufrockpenp643 3 месяца назад
Yeah, not sure wholesome is the word. The subtext is extremely tense.
@BlaiseBarley
@BlaiseBarley 3 месяца назад
Uncle just called Dutch out and the whole gang out in a light hearted jokingly tone idk where you got the impression that it was wholesome
@fntagn
@fntagn Год назад
7:49 underrated statement
@freck2614
@freck2614 Год назад
Always look foward to one of your videos!
@thenorseguy2495
@thenorseguy2495 Год назад
I love your RDR2 videos. I hope you keep making videos about this amazing game. There are of course other amazing games to make videos about too. Have you made a video about Otis Miller? If not, maybe that could be something? 🤔
@weewee3486
@weewee3486 8 месяцев назад
Its sad to think how the once great Red Harlow is now suffering from lumbago😢
@frankcastle8397
@frankcastle8397 7 месяцев назад
Red Harlow is not Uncle.
@jameslink8
@jameslink8 Год назад
I think Red Harlow is in the RDR universe, but isn't Uncle
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
I believe this, he’s out there somewhere
@mapachestudios5993
@mapachestudios5993 Год назад
​@@Fizhy Why didn't he got a legendary gunslinger cigarette card,then?
@jameslink8
@jameslink8 Год назад
@@Fizhy me too. I think it's like you said most of the stories are played up & stories goes through different people & change
@SweatshopsAreGood
@SweatshopsAreGood 9 месяцев назад
@@mapachestudios5993ah he should have that would be super cool
@alexhernandez9407
@alexhernandez9407 7 месяцев назад
@@mapachestudios5993he wasn’t a gun slinger he was a bounty hunter so no he wouldn’t get a card .
@treypark9151
@treypark9151 Год назад
I was literally thinking about this a few days ago. Perfect timing!!!
@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 4 месяца назад
I love that conversation/argument between Uncle and Dutch at the fire place. I would love to see Uncle’s past as the One Shot Kid.
@kryptos24lab55
@kryptos24lab55 10 месяцев назад
I like the uncle/red harlow theory but i also like the theory that red dead revolver is the over-the-top Hollywood wild west movie based off the book "Red dead" by Jack Marston that was the retelling of Arthur's and John's lives.
@alokegaming
@alokegaming 11 месяцев назад
The only reason this makes so much sense is the fact that the gang doesn’t seem to know his real name. He is simply ‘Uncle’.
@Princess_Celestia_
@Princess_Celestia_ 10 месяцев назад
Uncle is his real name. For every 100,000 Americans, 0.05% have the first name of Uncle.
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 5 месяцев назад
He was Red Harlow. Then the Lumbago struck now he can't even do chores around camp
@oOMasterDjoOo
@oOMasterDjoOo Год назад
He's the sith lord behind the fall of Dutch Moneymaker.
@Tacman215
@Tacman215 10 месяцев назад
One of the biggest questions in RDR2 is why Uncle has been able to stay with the gang for so long? If he's always been useless, then why does he get to spend their money, eat their food and travel with the gang? I think it's possible that he helped set them up initially, to the point where they were relatively comfortable. Once he got older he became a useless drunk, but by that point had established relationships with everyone, particularly Abigail, Hosea, Arthur Morgan and John Marston, that he became like family. It's possible that Hosea and Dutch even know Uncle's real name, but who knows. Perhaps Uncle acts kind of bumbling in RDR2 ad beyond because it keeps him relatively safe; The way he reflects Dutch's threat is a good example of how he's kept himself safe around would-be threats to himself. If he didn't act that way, Dutch would've probably taken steps to get rid of him, similar to John Marston and Arthur Morgan.
@villagernpc8868
@villagernpc8868 9 месяцев назад
I imagine they didn’t send the army after John, but they did it instead because Uncle was there
@stonecoldstunner12
@stonecoldstunner12 3 месяца назад
Loved this one your so good at these videos bro ❤ I enjoy the red dead content and how good the lore is.
@bananabanana1
@bananabanana1 5 месяцев назад
I've ways thought Uncle was Red Harlow. I think it'd be pretty awesome if Red Dead 3 was a continuation of Revolver and maybe showed Red traveling the country until eventually joining Dutch's gang
@ChipipoydotcomdotPH
@ChipipoydotcomdotPH Год назад
Ive said this before and ill say it again, the whole event in red dead revolver was written in the book made by a sheriff, if you play the game the whole menu proves that thats the case. Red harlow is a legend in redemption timeline but his story might be a little fabricated but still true. So red harlow is real,Uncle could be red harlow too that is if rockstar wants him to be red harlow. ( at this point its just a matter of if rockstar wants to deliver a fan service😂)
@telmoagirresarobe2930
@telmoagirresarobe2930 Год назад
Rdr3 = Uncle's life 🤑
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames
@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames 4 месяца назад
Reall it enjoyed watching this; been binging Red Dead content lately 😂
@HelFrostKara
@HelFrostKara Год назад
The combination of the question of what version of Revolver's events are canon mixed with the unreliability of Uncle means you could go round in circles with this but I do love a good Fizhy theory video :D
@Lamedvavnik
@Lamedvavnik Год назад
It’s a bit of a tenuous connection but often Africans and African Americans refer to older men as Uncle. Maybe he did go to Africa and that’s where he got the nickname?
@Fizhy
@Fizhy Год назад
Perhaps
@ErectedGasCan
@ErectedGasCan Год назад
He did claim to have been a god for a few days when he sold equipment in Africa 😂
@shisui9922
@shisui9922 9 месяцев назад
dis has to be racist. we don’t even say uncle we say unc
@michaeldebidart
@michaeldebidart Год назад
Is Uncle really Red Harlow? The short answer is no. The long answer is nooooooooooooooooooooooo
@HeathKirby1
@HeathKirby1 3 месяца назад
Jack Marston be like: Hi Uncle Uncle
@kozanton
@kozanton 20 дней назад
Great video! I love the idea of red dead revolver being a fictionalized version of uncle's early life as red harlow
@magnis380
@magnis380 Год назад
Uncle to have once been Red Dead Harlow is my definition of a fall from grace 😢. For me, Harlow did what he had to do and moved on. Uncle probably kissed ass to join the Van Der Linde gang.
@CharlesMotosierra
@CharlesMotosierra Год назад
Uncle is actualy Abraham Lincoln.
@SmokingMonke
@SmokingMonke Месяц назад
Red dead revolver could just be one of Jack's books.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 9 месяцев назад
Everyone knows that Uncle is just lumbago turned sentient
@Fecklet
@Fecklet Год назад
I like the idea that red dead revolver is a story or one of the movies you can see in game
@adragol_cabaret
@adragol_cabaret Год назад
red harlow never had lumbago!! uncle can't be him!!
@melanievidec831
@melanievidec831 Год назад
Uncle used the excuse that he had lumbago to get out of having to do much work. Even Arthur called him out on it and told him he was a compulsive liar.
@adragol_cabaret
@adragol_cabaret Год назад
​@@melanievidec831i know, 'tis a joke
@lethalinjection2031
@lethalinjection2031 Год назад
I LITERALLY TRIED TO LOOK YESTERDAY IF FIZHY MADE A VIDEO ON THIS
@asdatrollys8944
@asdatrollys8944 Год назад
He’s gone by many names… red Harlow, uncle, gavin and the grim reaper in his Sunday best being just a few of those names…
@crunchysalmons
@crunchysalmons Год назад
yes!!!! i know this theory is implausible but it’s canon in my mind because it’s really funny
@thomasservon9097
@thomasservon9097 Год назад
Uncle doesn’t have the same Eye Color nor the same facial scars as Red Harlow. Something that should’ve been included in this video if you ask me. It’s just impossible even if Red Harlow exists in the Redemption univserse, that Uncle is the same person
@labrat2306
@labrat2306 Год назад
Dont know if you played red dead revolver, but Red Harlowes eyes are brown in it. That high definition image with the blue eyes is not Harlowe.
@nightspark8828
@nightspark8828 Год назад
love your stuff
@jacksonandy218
@jacksonandy218 Год назад
Another addition that i can add, is that we dont really know who uncle is. He dosent have a very significant role except for taking on in robbing the rhodes bank. But i think the reason he dont do much with the gang was he was a bounty hunter. And he stays with the gang for the sake of not being alone.
@MassiveKittenFire-vw1cw
@MassiveKittenFire-vw1cw Месяц назад
In greater Rockstar lore, Red Dead Revolver is in the SD universe and Redemption is in the HD universe. They're separate continuities, but events in the SD universe are partially canon. The important thing is that it seems that SD universe protagonists are all dead in the HD universe. Red Harlowe did some neat stuff, but he didn't die on John Marston's porch.
@FilbeeGaming
@FilbeeGaming Год назад
Everyone's favourite uncle! Excellent Fizhy 👊
@sweetpepino1907
@sweetpepino1907 Год назад
11:56 [Speech 100/100] Put me out of my majesty, your misery!
@user-ib5pr5lj5v
@user-ib5pr5lj5v 5 месяцев назад
Just gonna point out, randomly, in camp, if you talk to uncle, he has a chance to mention something about having a Native American mother. I don’t remember which chapter, but it was shortly after eagle flies getting captured by the u.s government.
@mikeheadhoncho
@mikeheadhoncho 4 месяца назад
This guy has a doctorate in yapping
@thetrojanhorse.1320
@thetrojanhorse.1320 9 месяцев назад
You sound so downtrodden in the opening monologue to this video. I loved it. I love the Easter eggs and the connections in this game. Bravo… I thought you video on Jack was masterful and emotive. And a wonderful tribute to such a detailed and well constructed story and game. You open up my eyes to details I missed. Great video…
@knox2922
@knox2922 Год назад
Red Harlow is really the friends we make along the way
@bullets1x99
@bullets1x99 Год назад
I remember in rdr1 jack talks about his book that is Guns story line and the steamboat the. Morning star was the name of the steamboat in that game too that was robbed massacred kinda crazy how they tied them together
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