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This one is ambiguous. Dany dragons ARE special, born under special circumstance by blood magic and they crossed after the Night King grabbed Bran. Could be a mistake, or just the magical touch that Dany and her dragons have. Apparently they went with the "they are special" route. I won't complain about this one, my boys are definitely special.
@@user-hy8sf2bq2w The book says Cregan was very fond of Jace because he reminded him of his younger brother who had passed away before the Dance started.
After what happened, or what didn’t happen with blood and cheese, it’s clear we can’t go by what happened “in the books”. They might make them best friends or they might make them lovers, who knows at this point.
3:47 "Do you think my ancestors built a 700-foot wall of ice to keep out snow and savages?" "What does it keep out?" "Death" The fact that Cregan Stark knew of this threat 200 years earlier, shows how committed the Night King and White Walkers!
@@mj7814I think that was the white walkers’ strategy. Wait until they faded to myth and memory and then return to invade. It’s like the Sith in the prequels.
@mathtrix14 good question, there can be two answers, one cregan didnt know as its not explicitly stated in books, this scene was included by showrunners as a fan service to game of thrones series, second answer is that he did know about the threat not to the full extent, may be north and starks are not fully sure about the truth of white walkers but unlike rest of the westeros they didnt laugh it off as children tale and night's watch is glorified penal colony or even worse some southern lords think its a lie made up by starks. Anyway ned also respected night's watch like cregan and still hold up the tradition of one stark family memeber joins night's watch. I think at the start of first book benjen watns to talk tonned about disturbing reports north of wall but that discussion hold indefinitely when ned decided to accept robert's offer. Ibelieve ned and cregan has same knowledge about the threat north of the wall not knowledge more like foreboding that wall was not built just to keep our wildings. And they both want to prioritize their duty to north over Southern politics but in ned case it was catlyn who forced him to go and in cregan case well this falls in catagory of spoilers for show viewers, suffice to say cregan will come south.
Thirteen years after GoT Season 1, and all the men in House Stark still sound like they’re from Yorkshire because Sean Bean couldn’t do any other kind of English accent 😂
It’s also crazy how he mentions serving the wall was an honor, not a sentence. Makes you wonder when it started becoming a sentence rather than an honorable duty.
It felt so good to be back home at Winterfell. The opening scene was just emotional, soo nostalgic and it was so wonderful to see Lord Cregan carrying the Stark ancestry sword Ice.. Cregan stark casting and acting is top notch. Also gotta love Jace and Cregan's dialogue, you can almost feel how they click.. almost like they are bros. The beautiful music and scene gives me so much chills.. truly memorable.
I love the line about how King Jaehaerys went to the Wall and saw his dragons refuse to fly over it. As a Targaryen king, he would have known about Aegon’s prophecy but maybe he had doubts as to its validity. But actually going to the Wall and seeing how his dragons reacted to it must have had him thinking “okay, yeah, there really is something bad out there.”
@@Mozee854you don’t know what northern sounds like yet make such confident claims otherwise, must be American, or worse, a horse faced home counties posho
Seeing Winterfell and hearing the Stark theme again feels like coming home. The Targaryens really took the Starks and the North for granted throughout their reign, I feel.
They did. The Starks was super loyal to the Targs, never rebelling and always uniting the North. They bent the knee to them, helped Jaehaerys and respected Viserys wish. They took multiple armies south during the Dance, the Dornish wars, and Blackfyre Rebellions. And what did it get them? Pretty much nothing. They were scorned and forgotten. There's a reason why the Starks liked Robert, he's the first and only king that respected the North. Targs deserved the fate They got
Cregan being the one to deliver the news to Jace would have to be soul crushing. They were best bros. I liked how they open the season with a raven flying into Winterfell then end the scene on The Wall with news from a raven that Luc had been killed. Good writing 😭😖
Starks are probably the most opposed House to the philosophy of Ends justifying the means, that philosophy drives Arthas and brings his very doom, in the end.
Winterfell, the Wall, House Stark theme, Night's Watch, that northern accent, those boiled leather armor, Starks talking about honor, duty and winter GoT s1 nostalgia has never been so back
@rainstriderstreamflower5645 I thought that they thought the White Walkers were just a myth at that point? Because according to legend, they hadnt been seen in over 8 thousand years. And when the third horn blew, Sam and the others couldn't remember at first what that meant because the horn never blew three times before.
It feels like to be finally back home, it's very nostalgic and I am grateful for this masterpiece. It's amazing that the season starts with the memory of Starks. I want to see more from Cregan
It’s possible the show tells the story that the Starks knew the WW were coming, and the knowledge was passed down from Lord to heir. Ned wouldn’t know, as Brandon and his dad died together.
@@rainstriderstreamflower5645 Ned was an excellent ruler in the North, he's just out of his depth as Hand of the King as an honorable man in King's Landing.
“They’ll fight hard. Like Northerners” Lord Cregan’s last line hit the hardest for me. I think the 1k graybeards Cregan will send will have a huge impact later this season at a dire(wolf) time when they’re needed most during this war!!
Here in this time, the Night's Watch is still strong and well manned. The Starks take their duty to maintain the Wall very seriously and even seem to be well aware of the reason for its existence. It makes me wonder what exactly happened in the next 200 years for this all to completely fall apart.
I think Aegon the conqueror told Torren Stark about his dream of the white walker invasion which convinced him the legends of his families ancient past was true and the Nights Watch was there for an important reason. With the civil war the custom of passing down the conquerors dream to the heir of the Iron Throne was stopped and over time forgotten about and made the white Walkers fade back into bed time stories
this was right before he learned of his baby brother's death. i thought i recovered from his death, but boy i was wrong. seeing cregan receiving the letter was all i needed to get emotional all over again. jace learning of luke's death... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@markbrown8533 I don't think they forgot about it, more that the Stark household shrunk in size so there was little need to keep it going. Imagine the lord only has the one son and a bunch of daughters, or that there are few cousins that could inherit the lordship of Winterfell should some tragedy befall the family. At the beginning of GoT, the only Starks in the main branch are Ned and his family and Benjen. Should Brandon have survived and had sons, and Ned and Benjen done the same, then I believe the tradition would have returned considering there's a high likelihood of all three brothers having enough sons between them that they could have brought it back.
I wish they did a show of young ned and robert at rebellion. And hope they give some important role to cregan in hotd with his head kept until the end.
Love the use of the lot system to ensure the Knight's Watch is properly manned. Would be interesting to see if a later spin off covers the reasoning behing ending the practice.
Possibly because of too many losses among the population; the Dance is followed by a harsh fibe-year winter which brought mass starvation. The south send their scum and unwanted to the Wall, of course, but when they're still recovering and when the holds and villages of the North have no men to spare, the Watch goes without.
"What does it keep out?" "Death" "Ok pretty cool line and all but that doesn't really tell me anything. Is it wights? If it's wights you can just say wights, dude."
0:25 I dunno why but this looks like the scenery in Episode 1 of Game of thrones when Ned Stark is executing the night's watch deserter. Also, Cregan says his father showed Jaehaerys the wall. Which i'm fairly certain is an inconsistency since the only time i recall Jaehaerys and Alysanne ever went north was in 58 AC. When both the king and queen were in their 20s. Not to mention it was lord Alaric Stark who was lord of Winterfell at the time. I believe Cregan would be Alaric's great great grandfather.
Where is the actual pact of ice and fire? Sara Snow? Anything that could have made these scenes better? Jace and Cregan had a developed relationship from this trip and they just rushed through it.
@@rainstriderstreamflower5645It is no retcon, that Jaeherys’ dragons refused to cross the Wall has been a known fact in the lore of ASOIAF for a long time. Dany will have to do it eventually in the books as well since they’ll need to go to the further north to slay the Great Other, I think it’s simply a case of Jaeherys not being the Prince Who Was Promised.
Just a side note, I think that at this point Jacaerys as crown prince is refer now as Jacaerys Targaryen not Velaryon, at least that was the point made by the show.
@@kingdomreyy According to what Viserys said when he made the marriage pact with Corlys about Rhaenyra and Laenor, the sons of their union will bear the name Velaryon until such time as they ascend the Iron Throne. Which would mean he remains Velaryon until such time as Rhaenyra dies and he becomes King.
OK WE NEED a Series focused on the Starks of the Past. Give me House Stark before the Wall was built v the First Night King in the Long night. I guarantee you that would sell a lot.
I wonder if Jace knows about Aegon's dream. If he does, then his great great grandparents not being able to convince their dragons to cross the wall would make more sense
The North and the Starks in particular are the closest George's world comes to inspirational figures, best modeling honor, duty, compassion, and balance with nature. Also quite satisfying that a power greater than dragons exists in their land.
Every time i hear good bye brother i get the chills. I know the mindset the heart of the character that is about to speak. The loyalty the honor and last but not least the courge. Winter is coming 🐺
