House of the Dragon ~ Lost in Adaptation

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Let's talk about the somewhat unique relationship between Fire and Blood by George RR Martin and the HBO adaptation House of the Dragon.
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@linnama5869 Год назад

Respect to the writers for deciding that Alicent and Rhaenyra's dynamic was going to be 'never married but nonetheless having an incredibly messy divorce'

@nicolassalamanca8051 Год назад

JAJAJAJA PERFECT DESCRIPTION

@edoardoprevelato6577 Год назад

Daemon is definitely the troublemaking child in this and nobody can change my mind.

@kingofdragons7 Год назад

@@edoardoprevelato6577 why would we try to change your mind?

@SingingSealRiana Год назад

@@edoardoprevelato6577 Well no one can despute daemon had not had peak scolded boy vibes after Rhaenyra showed u on dragonstone to get the egg back ^^

@merrittanimation7721 Год назад

“Rhaenyra, I want Kings Landing in my half of the divorce.” “Alicent, we aren’t even married” “Not anymore we aren’t”

@awhartig5847 Год назад

Rhaenyra & Daemon _absolutely_ enabled Laenor to run away to Essos. She outright says "the Sea provides esacpe" while talking about house Velaryon. Daemon responds to Rhaenyras marriage proposal to him & acknowledging Laenor needs to not be her husband anymore "if you love him let him be free". Daemon also straight up murders an unfortunate dude to provide the corpse stand in for Laenors "death". I would say neglecting mentioning Helaena & Viserys are Dreamers in F&B is also a notable change.

@contextTBD Год назад

To be fair, Dragon Dreams are magic and the Maesters frown upon that

@uranuslad9855 Год назад

"The sea is always right."😂

@ischeele7203 Год назад

@@contextTBD And nobody actually listens to anything Helaena says, so her ability being overlooked by history seems inevitable

@Code_Dee Год назад

Who knows V is a dreamer besides Rhaenyra and maybe Daemon? And nobody at this point knows H is a dreamer except us the audience.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

@@ischeele7203 Helassandra. I'd like to think that Aemond listens.

@JohnnyElRed Год назад

Honestly, I must commend Aemond for going back to King's Landing after that happened. I mean, where I in his place, and had a dragon under my command, I would just start flying east across the Narrow Sea, and don't stop until I saw Yi Ti on the horizon.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

He would not abandon Helaena. And of course he sees himself as "the dutiful son" in contrast to the ne'er-do-well Aegon.

@alicecaraballo3910 Год назад

@@alanpennie8013, Aemond does indeed care for Halaena. Ironically, his actions cause her irreparable grief and eventually, her life.

@livelovelife32 Год назад

Yeah he went back to face the music. That was brave ain't gonna lie I'd have been far far away by the time the news reached my mother. He couldn't have known his brother would welcome the news of igniting a war with a celebration. I do think because Aegon had been sheltered his entire life he didn't truly understand how badly a war could hurt him and his. Like he knew about war but he didn't KNOW war. He probably thought they'll just crush their enemies in one swoop and everything will be alright. Aemond's 'easy victory' probably also lured him into a false sense of security. That or he thought his grandfather and mother will deal with his problems like they always did. Not making excuses for Aegon but up until this point there weren't many consequences for actions beyond a slap or two from his mother and a scolding. Also Rhaenyra had never actually attempted to hurt her brothers. Maybe he thought ruthlessness wasn't in her nature? Or maybe he just forgot about Daemon...

@JerdMcLean Год назад

He loves his mum

@TheLastSane1 Год назад

@@livelovelife32 Daemon was the only one they feared. They presumed if they could kill Daemon Rhaenyra would bend the knee. They truly thought of her as just Daemon's whore wife. Til Daemon was dead and she was still going to war. Hell even after her death they where stunned that her side kept fighting. Aegon really did think himself beloved right up until the moment he died.

@marowakcity3727 3 месяца назад

"Not as good as early GoT, but much better than late GoT" bro that range is wider than the grand canyon

@blizzardgaming7070 Месяц назад

Roughly season 4/5 quality.

@solidhutyr1815 Месяц назад

Season 4 and 5 Different in Quality is Galaxy level wide @@blizzardgaming7070

@naomistarlight6178 Год назад

I like how each source seems like they describe an aspect of R.R. Martin's personality. Like he split himself into various authors and thought of how each one as a person would tell the same story differently.

@clownpendotfart Год назад

Please, he's mostly Mushroom!

@Daemonussy Год назад

@@clownpendotfart I thought that Mushroom was a stand in for HBO execs or something like that😂

@ischeele7203 Год назад

Every draft is canon while being lies

@clownpendotfart Год назад

@@Daemonussy GRRM liked the SNL skit that had a boy played by Andy Samberg who helped GRRM on the show by adding more nudity. He criticized the South Park sketch which depicted him as fixated on weiners... because he says everybody knows he's actually obsessed with boobies.

@livelovelife32 Год назад

@@Daemonussy 😂

@dr0g_Oakblood Год назад

Yeah, Viserys's health issues changing from "general fat issues and/or gout" to "westerosi-leprosy from the throne slowly eating him alive and giving him a Baldwin IV mask" was a much better story.

@Kyra_M Год назад

That little chuckle regarding the star wars series... perfection.

@astrinymris9953 Год назад

The Fandom Remembers! 😉

@KBWeeds Год назад

Oh yes! 😏

@Sasu123456789x1 Год назад

We laugh till this day lol 😆

@budakbaongsiah Год назад

Interesting thing is that Tales of the Jedi and Andor are doing very well... without D&D's help.

@DizzyBusy Год назад

Well, D&D kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet that is Disney's fear of losing potential profit by hiring show runners who were very unpopular with the age group they were trying to target with Star Wars

@dagreenman18 Год назад

They were in on it. Daemon’s scene with Quarl and him snapping the neck of the rando to use as “Laenor” were the tells. Plus Rhaenyra was “setting him free” as a thank you for everything they’ve been through together. I actually found it very nice.

@animationfanatic2133 Год назад

I loved many of the outfits in the season especially Ryeanyras byzantine looking outfit, I'd always heard of and thought of the connect between the Targaryens and Byzantines and it was nice to see that visually

@adedayooyegunju828 Год назад

and the atmosphere of Kingslanding and what i would imagine Constantinople would feel like

@TheMrPeteChannel 2 месяца назад

And Old Valyeria is basically Old Rome. Kings Landing is New Rome (the Byzantines)

@mysharona9097 Год назад

Frankly I'm shocked that Benioff and Wise were even offered HotD and I'm glad they turned it down. Wishing nothing but the worst for both of them 🙏🙏🙏

@reikun86 Год назад

As disappointing GOT Season 8 was, D&D at least proved they can do well with the first 4 seasons, and unlike The Song of Ice and Fire, the good thing about prequels is that the story already incorporated into the lore. HBO probably offered out of courtesy (and also thought that there was no way they could muck up a prequel.)

@Truecrime_girlie Месяц назад

I just think that they were like either bored with working on GOT or maybe they couldn't really use the ending that George has planned because they fucked up some of the storylines/killed off certain people (like Stannis) and completely excluded other characters and storyline. Either way, I think they really fucked up and I will forever hold a grudge against them. A lot of their writing was awful (like the one sandsnake saying to bronn "you need a good girl but want a bad pussy" lol )

@kalan0chan Год назад

Was really excited to see this. IMO, this is SUCH a better adaptation of Fire and Blood than GOT was compared to ASOIAF. I loved most of the "changes" and liked how the characterizations were translated, particularly because Fire and Blood, by its very nature, will contain some inaccuracies.

@OverdramaticAngel Год назад

I was pretty ambivalent about watching HOTD but after watching this video, I can't wait to see it.

@ivbeats1767 Год назад

I liked the changes other than Aegon and Criston Cole. They were terrible.

@linkofvev Год назад

It makes you realise the time during A Game of Thrones is the most boring part of westeros history.

@susandenesus8922 Год назад

Right. Just like how in the book, you are getting information by multiple people all over westeros, all of which belonging to different allegiances and adding fan fiction in Mushroom's case lol

@KatieLHall-fy1hw Год назад

Where IS Mushroom though, has he even been cast?

@T0T4LG4MER5 Год назад

Never click on a video so fast! I remember reading Fire and Blood while writing my Ancient History dissertation because obviously, the only thing better than reading copious amounts of real history is copious amounts of fantasy history! Love you Dom xx

@Nottz4Lyf18 Год назад

Same here i shouted “YES!”

@sebastianoleary2743 Год назад

What do you think of the show?

@christchex91 Год назад

*clicked

@merrittanimation7721 Год назад

The most inaccurate thing about Fire and Blood is that Glydayn actually cites his sources. If only Suetonius was so thorough.

@JenocidalTendencies Год назад

The scene with Meleys and Rhaenys I feel could have been swapped out in the history books for Aegon flying around on Sunfyre for the sake of propaganda? That’s the only explanation I can think of. “A dragon got loose during the coronation??” “Oh no, no! Aegon rode Sunfyre around the Dragon Pit three times, don’t worry about it!”

@ischeele7203 Год назад

There is no dragon escape in Ba Sing Se!

@durrangodsgrief6503 Год назад

@@ischeele7203 I think theirs a difference between riding a dragon around the bit vs something bursting out of the pit and killing many innocent people

@SonicSnake5 Год назад

It is refreshing to hear someone talk about Hot D that understands the relationship between the book and show.

@ellicel Год назад

I think we’ll see more ruthless versions of Alicent and Rhenyris in season 2, but this will now be understandable after we’ve gone through the whole first season getting to know them. I think their stories will be more compelling and heartbreaking as we’ll have plenty of evidence from season 1 that it didn’t have to be this way, that they were pushed into becoming monstrous.

@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Год назад

Funny that Dom used the picture of Maegor killing Quicksilver and Aegon the Uncrowned when describing the Dance of Dragons given those events are over 80 years apart.

@seanmcloughlin5983 Год назад

I really respect Viserys, a lot of people call him a weak and vassilating king for doing things like not forcing people to do something or supporting the war in the stepstones straight away. But I’d like to remind everybody that while things seem chaotic in the capital, if your an average dude living in the Riverlands or really anywhere else in the kingdom, things are pretty good, since wars, especially civil wars, tend to be bad for basically everyone. In Russia, between the reigns of Ivan lll who history calls “Ivan the great,” and Ivan IV who history calls “Ivan the terrible/fearsome,” was Vasily lll who people jokingly refer to as “Vasily the competent,” because he didn’t win any major wars, expand the empire, or do much of anything besides keep the peace. The just ok rulers in history don’t get enough respect.

@gollum1ring Год назад

That closeup just to laugh at Benioff and Weiss's hubris just gives me so much life.

@SayMy_User_Name Год назад

The biggest twist in the show hasn’t even come yet, we will find out that the dance of the dragons never actually even happened and everyone just got along well and reigned as a family together for 100 years.. the book was an in universe fiction.. mind blown

@BenMedia7 Год назад

Rhaenyra and Daemon were definitely in on the plan of faking Laenor's death. There's that scene of Daemon arranging it with Ser Qarl. And the reason Rhaenys didn't burn Aegon and the Greens was because at that point, Rhaenys hadn't declared for the Blacks yet and she had some amount of sympathy for Alicent following their meeting earlier in the episode.

@earthrester9198 Год назад

On top of that, there's the scene where Daemon kills some random guy alone in the halls. It was Daemon that provided the decoy body.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

BenMedia It's really quite surprising Rhaenys ultimately sided with Daenyra if she still believes they murdered her son.

@BenMedia7 Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 I think Rhaenys ultimately decided to side with Rhaenyra because she understood that her grandchildren would be at risk if Aegon won.

@madeezyfosheezy Год назад

also a lot of people say that rhaenys would have ended the war by killing the greens at the coronation but actually she would be starting one. aegon and helaena had two sons and grrm confirmed that daeron, alicnet and viserys's youngest son will be included in the show. there would still be green-aligned male claimants to challenge rhaenyra and the hightowers would absolutely have cause to do so. the war definitely wouldn't have lasted six months without aemond and vhagar, but there still would have been a war.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

@@BenMedia7 Really quite surprising that The Greens didn't make more of an effort to recruit Rhaenys. Too much else to think about maybe.

@the_goddess_1859 11 месяцев назад

I actually really appreciated the cesarean scene, and Rhaenyra's birth scenes. Because that's the first time I've ever seen the risks of childbirth portrayed so gruesomely accurate. I think it was also like the first huge hard decision Viserys had to make in a consecutive, horrible line of hard choices, up to his death. It was horrific, absolutely, but I honestly give points to anything that's honest about pregnancy and childbirth: Like people always forget how dangerous it is, back then and now.

@demondollee Год назад

I think that regarding Alicent and Larys' actions, my perspective on it is that it amplifies the fact that Alicent is and has been exploited and taken advantage of by men for her entire life. She says it herself regarding her father, and while Viserys was not cruel to her, he represents the loss of innocence she has experienced. Similarly towards how she treats Aegon, who she also views as representation of the end of her childhood which is why she is rarely portrayed as a good mother. The show has left me a lot more divided on who's side I'm on, mainly because of their portrayal of Alicent which I prefer quite a bit.

@Joyride37 2 месяца назад

Yeah Alicent is my favorite character. She’s so messy and tragic and brings all the doom onto herself with her actions, yet was sociologically groomed for that fate bc of all the exploitation and lack of agency she faced in her life

@stxplesexhaustion 2 месяца назад

My sister and I binged all of house of the dragon and the first 4 seasons of GOT earlier this year and we loved it. House of the dragon was surprisingly incredible

@jaycievictory8461 Год назад

Oh. I never considered that she suicided via immolation to avoid a forced caesarian. But it's entirely plausible after what happens in episode 1. I wished that had been talked about more. The betrayal of what Viserys did to the wife he loved. Not to mention the contrast of Daemon, the "bad" brother, refusing to do so.

@jessicawurm23 Год назад

I think it's horrifying that a mother would choose to burn both herself and her child alive rather than chance that the baby could be saved by c-section

@jeanne6961 Год назад

@@jessicawurm23 I mean, she was in King's Landing when Aemma had her C-section and the baby died, she probably assumed the same would happen to them. She knew she was dead either way with no guarantee that the baby would live, and she wanted to go out on her own terms rather than being held down and cut open against her will. She had no reason to sacrifice herself for the pregnancy, she had a brother with sons and stood little chance of inheriting anything. Dying in childbed in Pentos was the antithesis of everything Laena wanted in life.

@stevecavalle Год назад

Keep in mind that Georges RR Martin loves unreliable characters And remember also that he enjoy rome antic history and inspired him to write this book Not exacly the most acurate historians was around at that time period

@l.n.3372 Год назад

@@jessicawurm23 I think your comment is kinda horrifying tbh. It implies a woman can't choose to die by her own choices. It's her body. It's her decision. And she didn't wanna die like Aemma did. Why is that horrifying? Aemma death was horrifying. Laena chose to go out on her own terms.

@DreamersOfReality Год назад

Women are their own people. They are not slaves to their wombs.

@darthchalupa2485 Год назад

God I love the Targaryen history. It really is like the gods just flip a coin on whether they're going extremely competent, or horribly insane.

@TheEnecca Год назад

I think that Daemon and Rhaenyra planned Leanors "murder". Daemon kills the guy who would pose as a body double and they talk about setting him free because Rhaenyra loves him.

@kaitie_ren Год назад

Daemon and Rhaenyra were in on the plan regarding Laenor because it was Daemon who killed the rando dude that they used as Laenor's double.

@SapphireSolstice67 Год назад

29:38 There is no such thing as dismissing a kingsguard until Cersei Lannister invented it in 299AC. The only options are executing or sending them to the wall.

@emilyvalentine4565 Год назад

I've heard apparently they have confirmed Mushroom appeared in one of the groups playing music for Viserys or Rhaenyra this season, which if true I would guess means he'll eventually be a relevant character. In this case I would additionally guess that his absence may be another one of those "we have too many characters already" changes, like them having Daeron be down South with the Hightowers rather than be present in King's Landing.

@TemariNaraannaschatz Год назад

He is at the wedding with Laenor. I'd also add that Mushroom sounds like someone that makes himself look way more important than he actually was.

@ladygaygay94 Год назад

This spin-off was suspiciously good. Like it was so excellent in pacing, character work, and action I couldn’t believe it. It’s like they made a deal with a witch lmao

@tenkenroo Год назад

A couple things I wished they kept was coles speech and larys blood oath. Those moments were essential to the characters of Cole and larys.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

I'm really not sure why people attach so much importance to that speech. The Small Council, which Otto had stuffed with people loyal to himself, would have declared for Aegon regardless of what he or Alicent said or did.

@tenkenroo Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 because it gives agency to Cole and larys. Coles reasons in the books are somewhat valid if you take it from a legal view. Rhayneras children were bastards objectively and though Cole is an unsavory character but he thought his motivations were just not the petty scorned nature they probably were. Larys by declaring a blood oath puts weight on everyone who declares for the greens even though he probably has no real loyalty to anyone

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

@@tenkenroo Fair enough. Re-reading the account of The Green Council I was quite startled by how much everyone (except Lord Beesbury) showed no hesitation at all about immediately usurping the throne.

@livelovelife32 Год назад

@@tenkenroo Larys especially has no loyalty to anyone but himself. I can't understand why he even wanted to be head of his house since he truly doesn't give one fig for it.

@tenkenroo Год назад

@@livelovelife32 probably for access to his houses wealth but even that is tenuous. I think larys motivations are for pure nihilism, cause as much suffering as he can in his life. It’s why at the end of the conflict he doesn’t give a justification to the wolf.

@swordmonkey6635 Год назад

I don't think Daemon's wife committed suicide to avoid forced caesarian. I think she chose what she mentioned earlier: a dragon rider's death. She would die in the noble fire of her dragon than linger in pain die crying out and withering in anguish.

@dovelyy Год назад

i just wanna tell you that this video alone made me finally go read fire and blood. i promise i'll go back to this video once i'm done reading

@reikun86 Год назад

Dom's chuckle at D&D & Star Wars at 2:33 made my day. :)

@fourcatsandagarden Год назад

I have tried so hard to care at all about this show, since so many people have been talking about it, and this is the first video I've seen that actually made me care some about the story. Dom is magic.

@livelovelife32 Год назад

Did u not find it watchable? Season 1 had less action and way more politics which I know for some people can be a bit boring. I loved it quite a bit but if someone said they need more action I can understand. Season 2 promises to be more inline with GOT level of action so hoping it's more palatable for those that need that aspect.

@rhythmandblues_alibi Год назад

Me too! I might actually give it a watch now.

@shawnconway6009 Год назад

So the thing about jousting accidents is that they were extremely common in medieval europe historically; numerous monarchs and princes died this way. Most famously, Henry VIII was always furious his father never let him joust, and his various councilmembers didn't let him joust either, and yet when he eventually overruled him, he famously had a very bad fall, and it's that that is often held responsible for his sudden turn towards sadism and paranoia.

@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm Год назад

Nice to see Dom getting some of the HotD action.

@ash1rose Год назад

I think they were worried about topping the opening theme to GOT because they caught lightning in a bottle with that and Ramin Djawadi is a musical genius. Do I think it's possible for him to write an equivalent banger? Possibly, but they might have been worried it wouldn't hit as well as the original theme. It would've been nice to give HOTD it's own theme, but on the other hand it's pretty awesome to hear that familiar song again and know I'll be watching something good.

@Pwn3dbyth3n00b Год назад

I think House of the Dragon is going to be an anthology show. For now it's Dance of the Dragons but maybe after the Dance is over they might have a "House of The Dragon: Aegon's Conquest" and also rename Season 1-4 or however long it takes for Rhaenyra's story to be named "House of the Dragon: Dance of The Dragons"

@aaronbell2180 Год назад

My jaw literally dropped when I got this notification lmao much love friend thank you!

@Matt-FRESHMINTY Год назад

I would point out that GRRM has said that a lot of stuff is just inventions of the show's writers that he was fine with. I think George's personal view is that nothing is canon because he hasn't quite decided on that himself 😂

@pedromoutadepinho7145 Год назад

The show never lived to it's true potential by keeping Mushroom out of the cast.

@Brandyalla Год назад

I appreciated the "textbook" tone of the book. It put the deaths at a remove, making them less traumatic.

@Joey-se1mk Год назад

Just leaving a like, gonna watch this with my GF once she's caught up. Glad to see Westeros revived again, didn't think they could pull so many of us back in. Cheers, Dom!

@DragonflyandTheWolf Год назад

Jaeharys' reign needs its own show. As interesting as the dance of the dragons is, it is a full on crime we never got to see Jaeharys's reign and the fates of his children.

@Frosting1000 Год назад

30:12 I think it was implied rhaenyra and daemon planned it that way. Honestly I’m more weirded out by rhaenys and ser corlys just accepting it and choosing to support them

@limbobilbo8743 Год назад

I remember hearing an interesting take that the larys foot thing was not him actually being aroused by it but him basically making a woman uncomfortable purely to demonstrate his power over her Basically he wasnt masterbating to feet he was masterbating to the fact he was able to get allicent to do that.

@femkev.5245 Год назад

Anyone else notice how it seems to be more loyal to the books than the original GOT show? They did things like restore the Rhoynar to the king's titles, something omitted from the original series.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

Somewhat ironic, since The Dornish were still entirely independent at the time of The Dance.

@TemariNaraannaschatz Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 Viserys casually going: I'm your king now. And no one bats an eye.

@litzana Год назад

Preserving the typo in memory now before it gets changed: Lost in Adaptaion

@alexissandren1884 Год назад

I would say that Rhaenys' choice to not make a barbeque of The Greens was explained in a very good way later. Her words "this is not my war to start" both rings true and is concistent with her words and actions through the season. Also, it gave a very nice foreshadowing to the death of Luke. And additional context to Aemon's reaction when seeing Luke killed. Rhaenys choose to not to use her dragon to start the war. And Aemon knew that he instead was the one responsible.

@cjd5235 Год назад

100% Love Corlys Velaryon. I enjoyed the hell out of his chapters and loved the relationship between him and Rhaenys. I thought we might get some story with just the two of them. But it would be cool to get a side show with just him. It would also be cool if it was an anime like they did with the Witcher and the story of Vesemir. 🤔

@lordofuzkulak8308 Год назад

As much as Dom laments them going with ‘Fire & Blood’ for the show name, I think it actually acts as a retroactive shame that they chose ‘Game of Thrones’ for GoT and not ‘Ice & Fire’, that way F&B would’ve acted as a theme naming.

@nicolasclermont893 Год назад

Mushroom may be in the scene where Leanor and Rhanyra dance and the music is playing. Theres a cutaway of a dwarf playing an instrument.

@Grim_Sister 10 месяцев назад

Idea: mushroom is in the background, just not taking part of the scheming. He writes it all from rumors and fantasies he has over the royal families

@not_llike_that Год назад

Daemon was the one to kill some guy who was later believed to be dead Laenor, thus, no way he wasn’t on the plot. And I think that Rhaenyra’s words indicate that she was also in on this plot

@4amlibra Год назад

I’m sure this has been mentioned a thousand times, but a note on the theme: go re-listen to “The Prince that was Promised”, that FUCKING INCREDIBLE tune from the end of the pilot, then listen to a track called “The Promise”. *Yeah*. Ramin Djiwadi caught lightning in a bottle for a second time, but HBO chickened out.

@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 Год назад

I actually think the show did a perfectly fine job of showing Ser Criston's coercion into smexing Rhaenyra due to her abuse of power, even without the historical context. I mean, the boy does nothing except say 'no' the whole time. And afterward, he's so ashamed he wants her to runaway and marry him just so he can feel less defiled and dirty about the ordeal, and then has a very public essentially psychological-break and meltdown because she refuses to basically salvage his honor. And, similarly, I think the show also did a perfectly fine job of establishing the fears of Viserys' council as to how unfit for ruling they thought Daemon was. And such. Even without historical context. And, honestly, I like that it's kept much more personal and close-to-home .. rather than being distanced by historical precedence. But maybe that's just me? 🤔😁

@avg18 Год назад

Re: Laenor's death in the show, all parties involved knew it was a fake death. Daemon provided the body, by killing a servant in Driftmark (see the scene in a staircase).

@Fordmister Год назад

If I'm remembering correctly there is a blink and you'll miss it cameo of who I assume is meant to be Mushroom during one of the scenes latter in the show where Viserys has music played and one of the musicians visibly has dwarfism. Given how Mushroom constantly overplays everything about the actual people involved in his account in fire and blood its very possible he also completely overstated his role at court, turning himself from simple musician who overheard a lot of important details and was intelligent enough to piece together a few others to the families personal jester and making important comments at council meetings. (that or it was just a hat tip to book readers to acknowledge the character that the show had cut)

@septesix Год назад

There is a theory going on that the purport “Mushroom” was actually the borrowed pen name of another source, perhaps Septon Eustance, who used this name to write down any account that he cannot officially said in his record.

@christopherjustice6411 Год назад

My favorite part of house of the dragon was when Daemon screamed “It’s Daemon Time!” And then Damed all over those guys.

@animationfanatic2133 Год назад

Jared Leto should be in this show 😂

@johnathanholmes1297 Год назад

What is so funny about that meme anyway? I get the Morphin and Morbius parts, but it seems like everyone tries to make it some kinda of meme. It isn't funny and it isn't really cringe or annoying. It just doesn't make sense to me.

@christopherjustice6411 Год назад

@@johnathanholmes1297 Matt Smith was in Morbius

@johnathanholmes1297 Год назад

@@christopherjustice6411 So?... Wait. Is he in here too?

@joelmole3157 Год назад

@@johnathanholmes1297 He's Daemon Targaryen

@SonicRooncoPrime Год назад

I didn't expect this, thanks Dom!

@lockmonster05 Месяц назад

I dislike how they took away Alicent's agency. In the show, it's all, "Oh, poor baby, things were FORCED on her," Why can't she be a badass leader of a coup? A Margiery/Cerci hybrid. A Lady Olena? Sure, she may not be responsible for ALL of it, but why not just take advantage of opportunities? I think that would make her more interesting than the whiny thing we have now.

@diehard7517 Год назад

So, Martin decided to pull a Tolkien and create what is basically a fantasy mocumentary.

@alanpennie8013 Год назад

The GRRMarillion is a popular fan name for F&B.

@diehard7517 Год назад

@@alanpennie8013 heh

@jaycievictory8461 Год назад

"It's weird how guys like that keep getting named after body parts." SNORT!

@masteroftheassassins Год назад

The Dom has returned to the world of Westeros!!!!!!

@alexm-e4910 Год назад

I enjoy people talking about GOT and related material waaayyy more than I’ve ever enjoyed the material itself

@krow5099 Год назад

Yeah it’s kinda like that as long as they aren’t mega super fans that think they show is perfect at every turn cause it’s not

@may.k_me Год назад

There's surprisingly a LOT of Team Green people out there. And they generally tend to be show only people.

@Kriosaivak Год назад

Mushroom and Eustace both appear in the show, albeit briefly. The dwarf playing the drums at the wedding was confirmed to be Mushroom, and the Septon to crown Aegon was subtitled as Eustace.

@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 Год назад

No one would have mentioned the prophecy because Viserys said it was a secret told only by the ruler to the heir to the throne. And Alicent never told that part to anyone, since she didn't understand anything he was saying because of that except that she mistook it for him claiming that Aegon (their son) was the rightful heir .. she didn't even realize he was referring to Aegon the conqueror at all.

@nataliaciotucha4153 Месяц назад

Leanor not being really dead in the show means technically all of Rhaenyras sons are bastards, so adds to the line about building an army of bastards, even though the little ones won't be fighting

@colinvandenberg3446 Год назад

The show makes a passing reference to Maegor when Otto Hightower warns in episode 1 that Daemon would be "a second Maegor." Maybe that backstory will be explored in season 2.

@EleiyaUmei Год назад

See, I don't really wanna watch the show because I read the book, was on Rhaenys' and Rhaenyra's sides and know how it all ended. I can't take getting my hopes up and my heart ultimately breaking again ^^' Also, I really enjoyed Fire & Blood's concept/writing style. It wasn't a boring history book because it was soaked in subjectivity and full of unreliable narrators. It was incredibily entertaining, sometimes even funny. Edit: Valar Dohaeris, beautiful Dom! Thanks for this episode.

@livelovelife32 Год назад

This is an understandable reason why one won't watch the show. I remember commenting on a video by a reviewer complaining to the high heaven's about changes made from the book that I won't have enjoyed the show if it was exactly like the book. Yes at first it's nice to see word come alive on screen but after awhile I'd be bored out of my mind. Why watch something when you know word for word what's gonna happen in every single scene?

@lazylistmaker Год назад

Re: Laenor's faked murder: HBO had the standard lighting issue in that scene, but I believe Daemon was the one shown killing the man they used as a body double.

@Brandon-tb5st 2 месяца назад

Idk if anyone remembers this, but they did have a different song when the first episode aired. It was more of a tribal, primal song. I thought it worked so much better, not sure why they switched back.

@captainblighe7297 Год назад

I think the idea of “Aegons Dream” is delightfully ambiguous and very interesting to think about. On the one hand maybe he did have a dream or Daenys the dreamer had one or whatever that he used as reason to conquer Westeros. On the other hand it could have been an excuse to conquer the continent for a simply personal reason to take over an entire continent. Or maybe it started as a political conquest and he learned of the Others from Torren Stark. It would be interesting to see this in an actual show but the likelihood doesn’t seem high for the time being.

@IsaacWhittakerDakin Год назад

One of the few times where I had read the book before the adaptation and I am very impressed with HOTD.

@Johury Год назад

I don't think the friendship between Alicent and Rheanyra could have been the same behind the pages in the book due to them being (I think) 9 years apart instead of the same age.

@TemariNaraannaschatz Год назад

Considering high born girls/women relationships we see in asoiaf I would say the age gap is actually not an issue in regards to them being friends. Seeing as they are both unmarried daughters of highborns at court, they were very likely to spend time together doing activities such as reading, hawking, sewing etc. So probably not the same relationship, but they could have a decent friendship.

@SionnachOghma Год назад

Wasn't it Daemon who secured the fake corpse for Laenor's supposed murder? I seem to remember him killing some rando lookalike, then Laenor's lover kicked shit off with the fight. Seems to have been a planned fakeout; and I would guess this was at Rhaenyra's insistence. Her and hubby were good enough friends and allies that she wouldn't have stood for his actual death.

@camillevaillancourt8789 Год назад

This just became the best friday ever thank you Dom!

@andyhighroller8217 Год назад

7:10 Amazing. Just amazing. There're times where i go through my subs and see who i dont watch anymore/left youtube/shorts spam channels/etc with the intent to unfollow what i dont watch/have time to watch/have the desire to devote my time to watch. Yet, Dom proves again and again that my subscribing to his channel was no mistake. Lost in Adaptations has to be in my top 5 favorite youtube series, maybe top 3..

@mariovilas4176 Год назад

Watching with fascination how Dom is horrified at the multiple layers of bias in the book… boy, you’re not gonna believe how it is with real life History books!

@amandagoldsbury8122 Год назад

My theory is the reason Drogan destroyed the throne was that it was literally coated in hundreds of years of targaryen blood.

@markuscriticus8278 Год назад

People often say in defense of changes the show makes that unlike with ASOAIF the book is in-universe history text with conflicting accounts and agendas ect. Me, I think a much better argument is that unlike with Game of Thrones, the show isn't just adapting the book, but trying to turn it into an Actual Story instead of just a lore document to one. Sure, everything about Alicent's relationship with Rhaenyra is made up for the show, and that's a good thing, because it created an emotional core to it that the original didn't need. IMO, possibly my favorite change is Criston Cole. In Fire&Blood he's just a one-note jerkwad, the show makes him into vocel Lancelot. I'm honestly suprised this wasn't straight from GRRM, because in books he's treated a as a foil to other characters and it works much better with the show version. It's like if Arys Oakheart failed to get himself killed and turned into Kylo Ren.

@TreeHairedGingerAle Месяц назад

Me coming back to enjoy this now that I'm able to understand it: because Olurinatti recapped this series (that I didn't really want to watch) in a mildly unhinged and quite entertaining way over on her second channel 🖖🏾✨

@VelkanKiador Год назад

Okay, fuck! This is gonna be a interesting challenge for lost in adaptation, as House of the Dragon is based on a bias history book where you have to consider everything being said. Like Daemon is accused of a lot of shit, but you can easily argue that the maester writing the book is biased against Daemon and awlays comes to the worst conclusions about him when the truth is unclear. Considering we are meant to question a lot of things in Fire and Blood then what really counts as a change really? I can't wait to see how you handle this challenge O__O

@TheLastSane1 Год назад

I believe that specific Maester actually did in universe write a book specifically about Daemon called The Rogue Prince.

@stephenjenkins7971 Год назад

To be blunt; those maesters turned out to be almost entirely correct about him.

@TheLastSane1 Год назад

@@stephenjenkins7971 I mean Daemon is both equal parts good and bad. The show just likes this idea of showing him as just bad.

@stephenjenkins7971 Год назад

@@TheLastSane1 In the books he's worse. Like he literally doesn't even have a positive side to him. Everything is either people massively expanding from the text (Fire and Blood never indicated he loved Viserys) or conflated a basic political action as love (introducing his daughters to court). The only time I can think of in the books that Daemon did something out of genuine love would be Blood and Cheese. And...yeah. GRRM has a habit of writing sociopaths and claiming that they're not so bad. I remember him calling Joffrey a "classic bully".

@TheLastSane1 Год назад

@@stephenjenkins7971 Believe what you like

@NemesisNecrosis Год назад

Corlys the Sea Snake is the absolute coolest character in the entire Westeros series, imo. Also, him and Rhaenys are relationship goals.

@Ekami-chan Месяц назад

I dropped this show but forgot it means I can now watch your videos about it without caring about spoilers 😁

@ThomFoolery12 Год назад

Targaryens aren't supposed to be able to get sick. Closer to gods than men and all that. It'd make sense they would want to cover up or misrepresent Viserys' condition.

@luizag123 18 дней назад

Tought everyone knew what those marbles on the council table were and I was the only one lost

@jaqjynx Год назад

Thanks for this one Dom. I’m a huge SoI&F nerd (both books and the show). So I got really excited to see you’d done this!

@chelseab5467 Год назад

A very good synopsis of the first season and didn't give away any details of the easily known history of the Dance of the Dragons. Very well said. For some reason just the way you phrased some things just seemed, to me, to be respectful of the writing process even in adaptation. Thank you Dominic Noble!!

@StanKwiecien Год назад

Also: fantastic job on the Scottish play with OSP!

@spearshake4771 Год назад

Munkin wasn't Gyldayn's predecessor. Gyldayn is an Archmaester of the Citadel while Munkin was Grand Maester.

@SapphireSolstice67 Год назад

21:28 “Alicent Targaryen” She is still Alicent Hightower, unlike most marriages, royal spouses keep their maiden name after wedding. See Cersei Lannister, Elia Martell, Margery Tyrell, etc.

@LuisRodriguez-kz7nt Год назад

2:34Oh,it was a ground breaking franchise...and under the broken ground the abyss waited...

@kialyreaulo3448 Год назад

Dom this was SO quick, can't wait to see your thoughts!

@xjadit7826 Год назад

Was not expecting that month python reference spat my drink out 🤣

@thomaswillard6267 Год назад

"Rhaenys wouldn't want to do that to another mother" [Meanwhile, mothers in the crowd]: ☠️💥🐲

@jeanne6961 Год назад

Yeah that was a bit weird. Rhaenys' in-show explanation of her actions makes much more sense "Obviously there's going to be a war, but it's not my place to start it." Rhaenys was passed over twice for the throne, she's accepted that big, realm-changing decisions were deemed not hers to make. She may be a dragon-riding princess, but in terms of power she's technically little more than the Lady of Driftmark.

@thomaswillard6267 2 месяца назад

@@jeanne6961The fact she has a dragon and is a Targaryen meana that dragon-riding princess is technically as powerful as a dragon-riding princess

@WritingGeekNL Год назад

34:35 It also is a clear development for later events... but besides that, it is rather interesting in a different shade of light. Targaryens give zero fucks about the smallfolk, but wouldn't kill an usurper. It is mental.