Not the strongest episode of the season but still a lot of interesting stuff happening with characters like Aemond, Baela, and Jace. The sound design was great. I thought Alicent's breathing drowning out everything else in that scene was perfect, and love how you can just always hear some dragon noises in the background when people have quiet conversations at Dragonstone. Really like the end and looking forward to the search for dragon riders. Daemon’s really getting lost in it at Harrenhal, I imagine there will be plenty of surprises for Alfred Broome when he gets there. Let me know what you think.
I really enjoy how they’re developing Jace and Baela and Rhaena (sp?)… I’m kinda losing interest in Daemon’s storyline at the moment. Overall loving this season extremely!
Really? I think this episode was much better than episode 1 & 3… it finally feels like things r happening, and the ball is starting to roll down hill now.. i dont know everything in season 1 and early S2 felt like rolling a boulder up a hill.. now it seems like it’s finally at the top and starting to roll down hill
no that is not true and I have heard this argument before. One could speculate that war would have still broke out after renerha became queen. But as far s the audience knows everyone was ok with her being queen because vicereys said so. There at war because of miscommunication from vicereys to Alicent. We would still be at war even if it was two guys in this same situation
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@@keithhooper5966it’s pretty clear Otto was conspiring with Jason Lannister and part of the council way before Viserys died
Broke my heart seeing Cheese’s dog in the background during the conversation between Alicent and Ser Christian ….and then seeing him trotting behind the ratcatchers bodies in the cart. 😢😢😢😢😢
I love that daemon is low key the comic relief of this episode I just hope that he doesn’t feel offended when he sees that rhaenyra sent people to check on what he’s doing
Aegon was roasted on his right side in the battle. On his sick bed, it was Aegon's left side which was roasted. Dragon fire surely worked in a strange way.
Also not sure the armor helped. Setting aside magical properties, steel would absorb the heat and hold it longer than cloth or skin, which would dissipate quickly. So you’re stuck inside a red-hot frying pan, cooking.
Cool detail: when Aemond ordered the rat catchers be cut down, they wheeled the bodies away and the terrier who worked with the rat catchers ran behind the cart, still true to his master now dead.
Something about the removal of the rat catchers and the sealing of the gates seemed interesting. Just like Aemond wasn't there to smell the bodies come down, he wasn't considering the consequences of apparently simple "solutions".
I would have compensated those families, not just out of sympathy (although there is that). It would be good PR to show how much different he is to his brother as a fair and just ruler.
Another RU-vidr posted how the Green’s whole premise is having a male lead and take the thrown, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that it results this way for Alicent.
Corliss's sons will be the dragon riders. They are tough men and Alyn can be Corliss' heir, since he is a man of the sea. Rhaenyra can legitimize him easily. I'm just making an educated guess; I haven't read the book.
Alf, if that's his name, the "bastard Targaryen" from the bar, may become the next dragon rider... I forget who's side he was even on, but it seems to make sense if they're looking for someone who has fallen out of their line, and he doesn't seem to have a purpose yet. Just a thought, I haven't thought it through but it just made sense, unless there's a new character still to come.
I don’t see there being much ambiguity that Eamond was gunning for Eagon specifically. The scene for me definitely seemed to be his effort at king and kinslaying. I don’t know why people see it as ambiguous. I absolutely believe he knew it was his opportunity to take the throne and he took a shot. Seems like even Cristian knows that and is just reticent to make such an inflammatory accusation publicly. He also has to know that in conspiring with Eamond behind Eagon’s back he opened that door and failed his one job: Protect the king.
Thank you for such a good breakdown. It really had a lot going on whilst at the same time also providing a "cool-down" for the audience after Rook's Rest. I think it is a strong an episode as any in S2 although perhaps not on the first view. I know I need to watch it again to pick up stuff I missed that you showed here.
That make zero sense since, the children need help defensing the Night King . Especially since the Whites became their enemies after creating The Night King. The children would absolutely be wanting the Prince who was Promised. If she’s a child of the forest, she’d be HELPING Deamon. And even than Both the Targaryen and the children of the Forest both have Dragon Glass. You would think there was some kind connection with Old Valyria because of the Dragonglass 7 1 @user-bh2fz5sf5e 15 hours ago Yes! Thank you! They wouldn't be trying to stop him from being born!
A corlys valaryon animated show? I’ll believe it when I see it. Feel like we’ve been pitched so many ideas for spinoffs, so far one has made it to the small screen.
For the series it's definitely a weaker episode but a weaker episode of HOTD is better than 95% of other series in my opinion. This series (and property/universe) is generally at its best when there is a lot of talking, character work, world building. The battles are just icing on an already delicious cake. I do wonder though, what happened to Harrold Westerling Kingsguard played by Graham McTavish. I would love to see his return to the story somehow, even if it's just to give him a nice send off.
I think Aemond I was more of a sense of pride teaching his brother listen but I think in that scene where they’re taking his armor off his brothers armor off that he sees a little bit of bitter sweet like wow he’s actually hurt I didn’t mean to do it but he could’ve wanted to kill the him to
The other episodes felt like a full meal, and last nights left me with room For a bowl a cereal lol I’m just invested in the series I guess and impatient. New subscriber and great breakdown video!
I thought HotD was slow and boring, but it isn't. Now I understand my mistake. HotD is the best TV show ever made... feeding "stupidity" through pretending "coolness". A real 10/10.
I knew that Daemon was dreaming about his first love. So why was I shocked that he was dreaming about his mother? I love that Cole pulled the "it is the order of things" reverse draw 4 Uno cards on Alicent. She forgot that Cole is not her enforcer or pet. She should have learned that when she ordered him to take one of Rhaenrya's sons' eye. Cole was only sworn to protect her but now his first duty is to the Prince Regent as Hand of the King; It doesn't matter who rides him. He won't even tell Alicent what he saw Aemond do next to a wounded Aegon., justice nor temperance. Daemon is figuring out that ruling is not just about power but you also need people skills. You cannot threaten everyone with a dragon alone. You have to keep the lords' pacified because you need them.
Really don’t like how they’ve veered away from the book regarding Helaena. Not sure why they would change what happens with her, but her character is being poorly developed.
So, no conclusive evidence that Ms. rivers is real but she gives an insight of Daemon’s thinking, of how he goes from idea to the next. He is now thinking he can be king, but not really gaining the trust/support he needs to do it. He is a mess!!!
The pacing of those series is slow and I fear they are falling into the Star Wars TV trap of shooting everything on a sound stage or the volume. Not enough on The Wall either.
The actor is giving himself too much credit. Aemonds character is linear and flat not mysterious at all. You ALWAYS know his intentions and is no mystery
I agree that what's going on with the Greens is a little more compelling to watch right now. Also, I knew I recognized Lady Arryn from somewhere- That's both lead actors from Raised by Wolves on this show now! (Corlys' bastard Alyn being the other). A decent consolation from HBO for cancelling their series.
Alys is definitely a ghost and is haunting Daemon. It's difficult to notice, but we see her dissappear in one of the scenes this episode. I've watched several episode break downs and so far no other channels have mentioned this. Watch the scene where Ser Simon Strong enters the room after Alys mentions Daemon's mother. *Poof*
I wondered about that too because it isn't clear. I think they added that detail to take her out of the running and set the stakes for trying to claim a dragon. In the actual histories, no accounts exist of a dragon killing a Targaryen that tried to bond with it. So, it's just a thing they've said without elaborating on at this point.
@@thestinger5846 no, there's also no stories of a rider claiming more than one mount if their first one is still alive. he just sang a song to Vermithor.
@@PetePeppers1 For me it was clear, she tried to claim a dragon and almost got killed so she stopped trying. It also justifies why Rhaenyra sent her away and why she doesn't ask her to come back now that she needs potential dragonriders, she believes she can't, yet, or that she can't bond with those specific "available" dragons
@@leykimayri yeah, that's what they said. I was commenting on how there was no precedent for it any of George RR Martin's books. There aren't cases where Targaryen kids try to claim dragons and almost die.
I loved being left with some hope for Rhaenyra’s fight for the crown by searching for dragon riders. And that means MORE dragon battles!!! Interesting sexist treatment of the queens, Cersie knows all about that.
Border Skirmishes are not considered to be "a war", it's just a skirmish. It still really pisses me off that they made the writer's goof that Crispy, a man who grew up in the Dornish Marches, which are in the STORMLANDS, who fought the Dornish, whose father serves a Dondarion at Blackhaven _in the Stormlands... is somehow Dornish... to just be show canon, somehow... Thanks, I hate it. If you're not aware, the Dornish Marches are based on the English Marches (border area between Scotland and England) mostly but also the Welsh Marches (between England and Wales), the Marcher Lords had a very large amount of latitude and authority, and were charged with defending the border and regularly skirmishes.
Aemond is the least subtle performance in the entire show. There’s a clear disconnect between the performance and the intended performance - bad acting or bad direction?
G O T is just so much better than House of the Dragon 🐉 The kingdom’s looking ran down and dusty Not enough houses back riding or sword ⚔️ fighting Needs more be headings I’m just ranting wanting to see the Many-face assassin
Nice usage of "internecine." 😄I liked this episode even better than episode 4. What made this episode for me was all of the conversations. Every scene progressed the story in such nuanced ways layered with so much information about each character and their intentions. I think the writing and acting is marvelous. Alys Rivers just became my favorite character in the whole show. I officially hate Daemon now for the way he treats people. Also loving house Bracken for calling his ass out in the middle of the night and holding him accountable. I almost quit the show after watching dragon torture in the last one. I was glad I gave it one more try.
This was IMO the weakest of the episodes, too much chit-chat, hope it all pays off in the end tho. The scenes at Rhaenyra's council are all the same every week, they argue, she gets mad no one listen to her or provide valid feedback, rinse/repeat next week. Its exhausting. Same with the Greens, but at least there, we have tension which makes up for it. Final thought: Ewan Mitchell has a natural villain's face. He has pixel-by-pixel the same face as the Joker from the animated series! You read it here first: he WILL play the Joker down the line in one of the 634x DC reboots and he's actually gonna kick a$$!!!
Alicent tried very hard to avoid the war with less influence and power than Rheanyra who spent decades doing as she wished. Now all of a sudden she is wise and strategic when she has shown money of this prior to this season, that picked immediately after s1 timeline wise.
Nobody wants to hear what the actor thinks about the character they're playing, the writer, maybe. And nobody's terrible in this, they can all lose their heads at any given time for any given reason. This is a world where u can be punished for helping ppl, rewarded for hurting them.
G O T is just so much better than House of the Dragon 🐉 The kingdom’s looking ran down and dusty Not enough houses back riding or sword ⚔️ fighting Needs more be headings
I think it seems fine. HotD doesn't spoil anything and most of the lore connections work both ways. GoT spoils the ending of HotD so it's probably not great to binge GoT right before it.
What if thr show puts a twist on Alys Rivers and Aemond? Her motives remain clouded but she could be setting up Daemon for a "heroic" fall, using both he and Aemond to bring down Droagon-lord tyranny for the people and the Old Gods.
9:30 Dude has such beautiful eyes. Yet, we only get to glimpse 50% of them. At least we got a 100% glimpse of his wee wee. /s Thank goodness for his brother Aegon that he was donning Aegon the Conqueror's valyrian armor. Worth more than castles.
That’s not the actress’s fault it’s the position the characters in, she doesn’t have the chance to be exciting, but the dialogue she has had has been well acted
Script is leaning a little too heavy into “Poor me, I can’t do anything.” Seems weak and I want her to be strong. But maybe that’s the arc, when she decides she CAN act.
@@scottwooledge6387 Unfortunately we're at a part of the book where rhaenyra and alicent don't really do much and it's heavily focused on supporting characters that either weren't introduced yet or have been cut entirely. But the show has to come up with stuff for them to do because you can't really have your 2 main characters disappear while still being alive and unfortunately some of what they've come up with is slow, boring, repetitive and stupid.
No, it's his mother for sure. She calls him her favorite son. I just looked it up and this is one of the first articles that popped up as well time.com/6997963/house-of-the-dragon-daemon-mom-dream-sex/