How ‘Sex & The City’ Ruined Women’s Relationship To Money 

Same! And she has all those clothes too. Some she doesn't wear anymore. Not just in the closet but in all her cupboards (and oven) in her kitchen... like that bird purse Big got her. While it was ugly it probably cost a fortune (since he doesn't do cheap)...

@@dessy0713 she could have moved in with one of her friends. Thats not really like living on the streets. Or she could have tried to find a smaller apartment. Also those shoes were like her friends and she had a emotional connection with them. And losing like 80% of a former investment is seriously stupid if you could still gain 120% when you wait a bit.

These used shoes hold little value

I HATED the storyline for Carrie trying to buy the apartment, her entitlement with Charlotte was SO gross! Then in the end, after Big already gives her all the money she needed for the purchase, Charlotte gives her her engagement ring from Trey, and that was supposed to be nice gesture……but like…Carrie already had the money from Big!!! Wtf???

Consignment wasn't a thing at that time it was just buy , hoard and live paycheck to paycheck for these women

Important comment, I would love that!

Came here to say this! Miranda said - man gives you money, you give him control. & I want to enjoy my success not apologize for it. She HAD the money to spend on take away

Yes PLEASE

100% agree

+1!

Ohhhhh, I'd love to see that on an add for re-financing agencies. "When your wallet screamed no but your stupid SATC-imprinted heart said yes" .

It's all about brainwashing.

It's called marketing, their job is to sell you things not to give you financial advice lol. You should be smart enough to not hand your money to people like there's no tomorrow.

I sorta miss being a kid.... when couldnt get something, thats it. Makes me wanna not step outside of house due to that effect in comment.

The only outrageous part is that so many women fall for t.

The ultimate bad example.

Actually, that's how it works in the real world as well. I was shocked to find out the amount of debt American women carry into marriage. The husband usually bails them out.

This makes her more relatable than the other characters that are quite stereotypical and completely exaggerated

Neither of you lived in NYC.

As someone who has, what's your point? @@ValerieRoyModel

Especially since she apparently hated the actress who plays Carrie. We like seeing boundaries in real life

It's good to see boundaries with real life

Yep love Kim Catrall for keeping it real 😁

It is going to be 💩 💩 💩 💩

@@TheKarebear666 I'm so old that SJP is now "the actress that played Carrie." Lmao

Exactly!

Very important point. I doubt anyone watching the show ever thought she was any kind of role model or example to live up to. It was always clearly obvious she was financially set due to her family status & upbringing & that she was expected to marry into same.

Yes, she was no different from the Gossip Girl folks she mentions.

@Rachel Forshee some people I know at work honestly... and it shows

Yes Charlotte came from money!

Another variant of 'Live fast, die young.'

@@genxx2724 ebay was founded in 1995. Granted, it definitely saw it’s rise on the backs of beanie babies (if I recall correctly, about 10% of it’s initial listing volume). In 2002, when carrie was buying her apartment, ebay was a publicly traded company worth 21 billion dollars. If I recall correctly, Carrie uses internet to email Aiden at one point around this time in the series so she is aware of its existence. Also, if I my memory serves me, Miranda tells carrie that she can shop online, to which Carrie responds “oh no, shopping is my cardio.” At this point, I think the writers could have had the storyline diverge into Carrie rethinking her relationship with the internet and it would have been plausible. But perhaps you’re right and only “freaks” were using it. 🤷‍♀️ good thing carrie had Big’s and Tray’s money to fall back on or she would have been in a pickle.

@@genxx2724 over 600 million people used the internet in 2002

​@@juliagrowsinportlandI was emailing in 1988, but I worked in IT I do still rarely buy clothes from the Internet.

this would have been so so much more fun!!!!!

Yes that would have inspired so many woman to work together to solve their own problems than relying on men to save them

@Women's rights was a mistake how many times are you going to reply this?

I feel the same! I was quite young when that episode come out and I was baffled how Charlotte was made out to be uncomfortable. then villainized and in the end, she apologized. Watchers who were already raised to be a pushover must have been so badly affected. Infuriating.

I STILL CANNOT EITHER! THE GALL!!

I so loved Sex and the City, but I knew I couldn't ever afford most of the stuff that was noted. But in my own way I did, I went to NYC with my cousin and got my Mahlonos at MB out let for 1/4 of the price and when I saw other things I went to outlets to get the things I wanted that I could get in my budget. In the instance of dating a lot should have been viewed in the shoes of Kim Catrells character, when dating Smith Jared, he loved Samantha's character what should have been noted when she got injured, she finally allow Jared to help her..... that being an instance of thinking about common sense and humbling herself, that I say was a good thing to learn.

Agreed. That episode really pissed me off.

Neither a lender nor a borrower be!

this is my exact philosophy

Definitely! The 1 or 2 occasions I gave friends money, they said it would just be a loan and they would pay me back. But I gave the money with the full expectation that they never would, even though they are good friends and insisted they would repay it. They never did pay me back, but because I framed it in my mind as a gift, not loan, I never remind them and just view the money as gone for good so I'm fine with it. That being said, there was one occasion where a friend DID pay me back and I was pleasantly surprised. But yeah, never give friends or family money with the expectation you will get it back

This is my personal motto

Where I'm from, you're expected to share your money with each other with ur fam members. That's just how it is here. And in all honesty, it has worked pretty well for my fam members. Just lately they all spent money together to buy my grandparents the needed med equipment for covid-19 since they caught it. It really does depend. I personally don't like it since I want independence, unlike this whole "let's share everything together" lifestyle, but at the very same time, I know some people would just prefer that helping hand whenever they needed it. And here ur never expected to pay ur siblings back for the money unless it's a really big amount and u can repay it. But on some occasions my grandpa has payed his sister-in-laws electricity bill which came up to 100€ (its expensive here if it's THAT much, since I'm aware in some other parts it's not a big deal) and he didn't expect anything in return. So yeah, just do whatever u prefer. Ofc not everyone is privileged enough to have fam members who'll do that for u without taking advantage of u, but if u can and that's what u want, go ahead

THIS!!!

Only if u r really dumb...

This! Exactly! I like Aiden he is a good guy and the show wanted to perpetuate that "nice guys finish last" when it comes to Aiden. Carrie is as bad as Mr Big and its better that they didn't end up together because a guy like Aiden deserves better

AMEN! I could never understand why Carrie was so obsessed with him. He literally was a bunch of red flags from the moment they meet - he doesn't care about her at all. I was always disgusted by the portrayal of that "relationship."

I think they wrote the show that way, Carrie going after an "unattainable" man, because there are many women that do this, so they wanted to portray that. A lot of women and even men, want someone that is hard to get or unattainable and who can't commit to them.

100% THIS!!!

I didn't think that Aiden was portrayed or perceived as the bad guy. He was the only decent guy Carrie dated.

The book was my first in realizing the relationship between women and money. It made me reconsider so much!

@@amandahaas2272 I do need to check out the book, I haven't read it yet.

Im a straight male,but I love that movie as well,hasnt stopped me from spending unreasonably though lool

@@ivailoshkafov9033 It's a fun movie, though, right? I know I enjoyed it.

In reality, being diagnosed as a shopaholic has more to do with a compulsive disorder than money.

And she worked her ass off!

Exactly. Moreover her job came with extra long hours. I don’t see anybody making videos calling out male Manhattan lawyers for not cooking

@@rodittis well if ever a show gets made about four Manhattan lawyers feel free to comment on a video that they sucked for not knowing how to cook

YESSS. A high paying job, great academic background, amazing work ethic and time management. She's an absolute Queen 👑

Also if she worked those hours, she most likely could have expensed that Chinese take out

It’s been said that LS was the inspiration for Friends although LS never got the credit for it.

I liked that show!

Loved that show!!!!

I moved to the UK from the US 25 years ago. When I used to visit my mom in Tennessee I would binge watch Living Single on cable as I hadn't seen it for so long.

I have been binging that show lately 💗

But there was a lot of emphasis on going out & conspicuous consumption (bags, shoes). No balance w/ saving & investing, which is essential & “making a man your financial plan”.

There were a few points that were overblown and not really applicable to the time the show was made but I feel like they were still mostly valid. The delivery thing was pretty unfair though. SATC is set before the gig economy and the apps that inflate the cost of food delivery enormously. Miranda wasn't using Postmates. She using her landline. She didn't pay a fee to get that Chinese food delivered. They delivered for free... and they probably didn't make her pay tax if she paid in cash.

They wasted alot of money.

@@TheMetrored Miranda probably wasn't paying delivery fees, but seems like a good tipper. Delivery some places here (California) was still free with a certain $ purchase within a certain range (ours was like $6-7 minimum purchase within 1 mile) up until 2020. Delivered by bicycle messenger, lunch deal was $8, portions were pretty generous, and they were FAST. I don't think I could make a plate of broccoli beef in 16 minutes if my life depended on it, so it wasn't something I could easily replace by cooking- and I can cook! 4 years later, it's more than doubled in price, the quality suffered, there's a bunch of fees, and they're using Doordash instead of employing their own delivery person so it's really slow. They've been replaced in our hearts by pickup from the taqueria. I loathe Doordash.

Friends was worse than SATC in everyway possible. The fact that I don't remember half their jobs is enough. Plus the amount of time during the day spent at the coffee shop. 😭

@@Shay416 It always seemed like they barely ever worked.

They made a lot of fun for themselves about the topic of spending too much time at the coffee shop on several episodes.

A lot of it is not understanding the culture of NYC then. Rent control, cheap food, no cars for most people.

I didn’t see Friends as a problem in portraying finances. Ross, a postgraduate professor, Chandler a (what we’d call today) a data analyst and Monic a as a head chef in a top restaurant would all have been earning well, yet staying in rent controlled apartments, walking everywhere and over-staying in the coffeeshop after a likely $1 coffee. Rachel leeched off Monica before she made it, and Joey on Chandler. My problem with Friends was the double standards in relationships and friendships. Ie, on Ross’s first date with Rachel he slept with her on the museum because of work, but Ross made a big deal of Rachel’s work demands when she got her big role and dumped her for it etc.

I think it is because Charlotte was 'gifted' money, so it was more fair than ask it of the two who worked for it. I don't agree with this reasoning obviously! but I think that was the logic behind it.

Carrie is toxic, but so can Life be. No one directly told anyone she is perfect, a role model or a god sent. It’s ok to portray and see flawed characters on tv, even without holding the viewers hand through every moral judgement. Anyone into Succession? Lol

You HAVE to be trolling.@@GierigerFisch

Today everyone is being called "toxic" for every stupid mistake 😂 For godsake we all make mistakes.

I think the question of wether or not a character is toxic depends on wether those actions are depicted as okay, or as easily forgivable. And on her general behavior. I mostly remember her as a bit pathetic because the moment some guy is presented as "OMG he's so amazingly rich that he only dates models - _and calls them 'beautiful things' !!!!_ " she's totally obsessed with him and lets him get away with the most hideous behavior. Oh, and marrying that guy is then the big Happily Ever After. Some fairy tale.

This is super accurate. You take a cab when it’s late or the weather is bad. You are probably going to get where you are going quicker on the train.

Funny thing is I've seen photos of Sarah Jessica Parker riding the subway.

Fun fact, in the pre-911 days in NYC cabs were cheaper and faster than busses or trains. I'm from NYC and even when inwas younger in my teens and 20s, it was nothing to catch a cab back then. Of course now it's much more expensive. But the accuracy of the show is spot on. If you ever been on a NYC subway in your life, you'll understsnd why some folks chooses to take a cab instead.

The pandemic was a scam.

Idk some people are busy and they don’t have an hour to sit on the bus to go 3 miles. I always find it interesting when people who have all the time in the world can’t even conceive of people being busy I had a friend like this in my 20s. She would get out on the street in her car and she would get really upset that everyone has someplace to be. Ma’am they’re trying to get to work, or they might have a court date that is important, or a doctors appointment they’ve waited for for four months. Just because you have nowhere to be doesn’t mean other people don’t have a tight schedule

I was thinking the same. They ate at Luke's every morning and called delivery services every evening. And If I remember correctly it was a normalized lifestyle in many shows from the 90ies and early 2000's.

Lol. I am an immigrant and I have to admit that my impression of America was based on those shows. I was thinking that only thing I'll be worrying in America- which party to attend and what designer clothes to choose. Can you imagine cultural shock I experienced when I got here? I still know plenty of people in other countries who think that if you live in America and can't afford apartment in high rise, designer clothes and luxury vacations- there is something wrong with you.

@Women's rights was a mistake third time you've replied with this...we get it; no woman wants you

@Women's rights was a mistake more like they marry a beta in their early 30s, have a healthy 1-3 kids and make bank. The story of literally every successful woman I've met. Try again incel.

I think this also ties to the kinda ”not like other girls” type as ”I can eat like a ”man” and not even gain weight”. Very very problematic

Exactly.

Yup

That's what I thought! It's just a fairytale for grown-ups. When you take it seriously and live by it, it's your own fault.

Agreed-all TV shows were pretty much like this look at Friends. Most people do realize it’s just entertainment, yes?

Thank you. So many shows are being ruined today, because they want to make current affairs a part of their storyline and honestly we turn on tv to forget about the reality of life

Absolutely!

That's why this essay discusses the influence of the show on young impressionable minds who have no idea about the realities of an adult life, not on women who would've been 30+ (even 20+) at the time the show was aired. It's a normal effect to have when you're young and your brain is not fully developed yet.

​@@silk_milk That's a copout. 100 years ago, 20 year olds were far more mature.

@@leonrobinson8180100 years ago, their father had come back an abusive alcoholic from WWI (or worse, hadn’t come back), they had 5 siblings, were living on food rations, had lost relatives to the Spanish fever pandemic, had someone around them handicapped by polio, and things were about to go from bad to worse with the ´29 crash and WWII. They didn’t have the leisure to watch soaps on TV as teens. 100 years ago, women got married and had kids younger, while having no personal bank account, no voting rights, and not being able to divorce their husbands in most cases. Very few had independent means that would make a comparison with today’s women relevant. Life is so different in our day and age that making statements like this is next to meaningless.

@@leonrobinson8180 How do you know? Were you alive 100 years ago?

Trueeee😊

But if you're still buying the fake designer items to pretend you can afford them.. Doesn't that make you even more brainwashed?

Yes, some dumbasses think, not knowing math is cute...

Ehhh its more that not being good at math tends to be a self fulfilling prophecy for women bc they are told women cant do math, and women are more comfortable admitting knowing math bc men continue to expect them to be bad at it. Also, in the US especially, the way they teach math here is so trash, even those of us who are good at it have to literally beat bad habits out of our brains bc of the dumb ass "show your work" and "take 30 steps to arrive at your answers" processes used to teach math to us when mental math works perfectly fine if u arent an idiot.

@@Pomagranite167 yes!!!

A grownass woman can't multiple 100x400, so sick of this ditzy 'empowerment'

@@Pomagranite167 I have to have my students 'show their work' as a math teacher. If they don't, there is no way to know they didn't merely copy the solutions. Yes they can 'copy someone else's work', but at least that takes more effort.

I noticed how it had affected women around me at the time as they spent as much time as possible doing the clothes shops. During their lunch hour and after work as well as every Saturday. I remember doing a one day computer course and a bunch of women who worked together were glad we finished early so they could all go clothes shopping together. I remember thinking that there were better ways to bond such as going for coffee together or going bowling. So it didn't affect people individually but collectively apart from a small minority who had the money and struck out on their own buying the same labels, dress styles, shoes or handbags or more likely knock off copies. It starts with just one person in the friend group or at work buying a fancy handbag and then everyone else in the group competes. I wouldn't want the dresses either as they looked uncomfortable to wear and I wouldn't want one at those prices just to wear once or twice as they went out of fashion very quickly.

''t’s my well-being first now'' it should be your grammar.

Jeesh this was a TV show not " a way of life" as a Native New Yorker I thought of this show as " fluff" completely unrealistic & sort of a bunch of cartoon characters which they were. The quartet of those women probably wouldnt work in real life maybe by 2's but not all fours This was pre 9/11 for most of the series SJP drop dead gorgeous? Lands Mr.Big after he stomped on her ridiculous navel gazing immature heart time & time again Of course he helped her financially if this was realistic Aiden character was a good man period I happen to really like John Corbett Who the heck bases their live on a TV show directed by a gay man that is clueless about real women?? Women like to shop if people need labels to feel like they made it well that's another fantasy like the entire show

Yes, but the show made the achievement of this kind of lifestyle the new ultimate goal for many women. This in itself has many cultural implications, even if the majority of women couldn’t materially achieve this goal.

Most women are status/classist mad.

Oh I didn’t get that from the show at all, but also Steve was a hobosexual who just wanted to live off Miranda.

​@MeowNow494 Miranda could've had Blair Underwood. But Steve was better, because....reasons. According to the shows logic of high wealth and status equalling value as a person, Blair should be a catch.

Yes, that's why Trey saw her as "one of his own" and not as a golddigger.

Yeah Charlotte was old money and very sophisticated

Yes, I always read Charlotte as someone still getting “help” from her wealthy family.

Absolutely, I always read her preppiness, her 'WASPY'ness, going to Brown, the references to being from Connecticut as all being coded for kind of old money. Even the type of men she was into seemed to speak to what a waspy rich girl would idealize.

Word and NYC firm life, especially someone single on a partner track like Miranda, it would not make sense for her to even have food at her apartment. I mean these attorneys take laptops on vacation, they answer client calls at their kid's recitals. They work ALL the time, and are available all hours of the day and night. If anything was unrealistic it would be Miranda's availability to meet for brunch and happy hours and shenanigans. They only care about two words. BILLABLE HOURS

Completely agree. Also I think the show made it clear that whilst Charlotte wanted a man with money she identifies as a WASP and was clearly old money herself.

@@fungirl0123456 Yes, I agree. Of all the women, I actually liked Charlotte the best, not only b/c of her stunning beauty but landing those rich guys and dealing with their families (remember Bunny who was going to kick her out of her & her ex's apt.?) is not for the faint-hearted. She negotiated well, and she was very, very, very lucky that her dr. ex gave her the apt. in the end so she would have a roof over her head (Mother...stop). Just IMHO.

Yeah Miranda is my favorite.

Charlotte grew up rich AF.

It's a fun tv show... 🙄 do people complain this much when action movies have characters engaging in multiple fight scenes and coming out unscathed?

@@Rikku147 I think we should!

No one will watch if she was wearing one shoe throughout the show. Movies are a means of escape. Ladies want to feel like they they can buy mstiersl things, do their dream job and marry the man of their dreams.

She was living on credit. Why is it that when discussing tv and movies, people act like real people don’t live above their means? It’s totally possible to have thousands of dollars of belongings along with large credit card debt.

@@NinaThomas that would be so fucking boring. Can we not CinemaSins every piece of art out there. I don't need 1000% accuracy in my entertainment 100% of the time. I'm an adult, I can tell fact from fiction.

I agree and I always thought Charlotte's family help supplement her life prior to Trey.

Marrying a person with the same financial backround makes things easier. The other person is usually as frugal or as lavish as you. You understand the issues of the other person...

Yeah but, on the other hand, Charlotte once dumped the perfect man (for her) because he didn't like the same China patterns.

@@solidstate9451 I agree completely, it’s extremely difficult to get used to a way of life different than the one you grew up in. Incompatible spending habits are a major source of conflict in relationships!

I think the point of the episode was that the other ladies offered to help Carrie, but Charlotte did not. So Carrie focused on her for being judgmental, which was a big theme in this series.

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Very wise 👍🏻

Intelligent 😊

@Richard yes, I am a very lucky girl.

@@ashleycapps1720 That's so awesome. Your dad is an extremely intelligent man. Question for you. Shouldn't it be work hard so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor?

@@mikeh2129 I would definitely say, in a nut shell, that's what he ment. All really the same advice. Just a few different words. 😉

And then she said "I've spent $40,000 on shoes and I no place live!" haha

Ikr? If I looked at my closet and saw all my savings in clothes I’d feel real sick. Honestly, what is wrong with simple retail clothing? The only brand name clothing I like is Canada Goose and that’s because their coats are good for the cold. Otherwise Amazon and AliExpress all the way

Because they are a business who want to sell you more clothes?

@@krombopulos_michael well, it didn’t work! It made me not want to keep the item.

@@NinaThomas yeah that would make me feel sick too, really tactless from a business point of view to remind people their money could be more thoughtfully spent, LOL

there's so many loose ends, when Charlotte met her sorority sisters for lunch, it makes no sense she separated from them to begin with. She didn't come off as 'rebellious', and would almost certainly have married in those circles

No, watching from poor country it made me ( and most women) jealous why can't we afford same luxury as American heroines. I thought that every writer or gallery curator in America can afford this lifestyle.

@@vg7985 Sadly, this is untrue for most Americans. It is the way Hollywood presents us and it is damaging to many on numerous levels.

@@vg7985 should see the « real »fashion in these »rich »countries 😆…..there are no rich or poor countries on planet,ppl.are really naive believing this,there are only rich neighborhoods &rich towns in otherwise poor countries,it depends where you live,with 5k/month in Central America you’re a king,with the same amount in Switzerland you’re starving

@@dr.perfectsmile4175 5k euro a month in Switzerland isn't enough?!

@@furzamurza I pay my credit cards in full every month, always have. I was watching a TV show on which a banker was complaining that people like me (who pay in full) were "deadbeats" (he was unhappy that the banks weren't able to charge us their exorbitant interest fees). Guy needed to look up the definition of deadbeat (as in the Princess Bride "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.")

Do you remember that in that movie, Holly was actually married to a broke hillbilly? He was quite literally Jed Clampett from "The Beverly Hillbillies", and with the same wardrobe. Not exactly Carrie Bradshaw.

Robert, it's derivative, not an adaptation!

@@robertwalker2052 broke hillbilly? His character was a veterinarian. Stuck up much?

The basis for 'Sex and the City' was Candace Bushnell's column for the New York Observer, written under that byline, and the book she published those columns. Bushnell, who was the basis for Carrie, came very much from Connecticut old money on her mother's side and her father was a researcher who became quite rich based on the invention of the hydrogen fuel cells used by NASA from the Apollo rockets onward. Money was not a constraint for her.

@@chuckbrotton2449 really? she was old money then? i did not know that. i just thought Carrie was a XXX worker same with Holly Golightly. a young pretty girl that very rich men "keep" around for "company". a "kept woman" for the elite that "take care" of her and are very "generous" to her. if you catch my drift.

@Women's rights was a mistake your account was a mistake

Yes, sometimes helping somebody doesn't help them in the long run.

I always assumed she was hooking on the side to get money since the finances never added up

@Women's rights was a mistake Go back to your miserable red pill hole you troll.

@@furzamurza on that point we can go to any show where characters rarely do any actual work. What did you want to see Samantha do? Write press-releases or brainstorming ideas? Well, she was in a restaurant talking on her phone pushing for some VIP tickets until that awful kid threw his food at her.....or when she helped Smith's play become big news and organized a red carpet or when she got that billboard for him. Or did you want to see exactly how she did all that?

Babe. It wasn’t real. It’s okz

I think both Miranda & Samantha (who runs a PR firm) were pretty grounded. Samantha didn't go over the top on a daily basis. But she would have select items that she splurged. She was also a hard worker & older so I just assumed she'd saved up & invested over the years. Of all of them Carrie was the shopaholic & biggest spender. Most of the time I didn't like Carrie but the fashion was fun. In the Paris episodes she was insufferable. She went shopping then becomes bored and annoyed until she discovers she has fans - who she ditched. For a city she dreamed of, she didn't even go to the Louvre, or go sight seeing or anything. The fan-party she was invited to was stupid, the writers just wanted pointless drama. IRL she should have just said she was busy that night and would have to do it another night. ... or she could also have called the restaurant and left a message (using her french language book) saying she would be late... Lots of things she does makes no sense.

“Carrie” was the worst! Selfish, narcissistic, and shallow.

Yess, perfectly put!! I also have an aversion to Carrie. Her style was great but personality wise.. boring and selfish and extremely self centered, lots of times she made a huge drama about her problems but couldn't bother with her fiends problems.

Cinderella was a real victim. Carrie was not. She could choose.

I tried to get into this show but Carrie was so shallow, stupid, and unlikeable I couldn't get through more than a few episodes.

I've seen this plenty of times in the family court as a lawyer tbh.

Miranda actually talked about money, like not being able to afford country houses, which I'm assuming would've been in the Berkshires, quite a bit. She talked about certain things she couldn't afford and one would think as a high level lawyer, she would've made the most out of all the girls in the early series.

Yes! And she worked at a gallery Im sure she got comissions over the pieces she sold

Yep Char was never short of money. Where this video just have a valid point is only going after wealthy men rather than earning here own income. Got the money from her parents and them moved on the to her guys. Not a very empowering message.

Yeah maybe it's not empowering but unfortunately it's the straight up truth! I've been in the dating game recently and 97% of girls who are even semi good looking are looking for a man with cash! They will even say it in their profile, no coin no play. Most girls don't look for love anymore, only status or money, lol lol lol lol

@@nicholaszellers1169 yikes dude, that's misogynistic af. Really making yourself look like an incel there

@Jake from state farm think you hit the nail on the head there, besides his weird sweeping generalization of an entire gender 😂 Him: "Girls are so shallow and only care about money" Also him: Being shallow about girls' appearance

Sad but true about how we get our ideas from media. And in a way: relationships are entwined with finances, and that's not a new thing. A couple of centuries ago it was "what sort of starting capital does _she_ bring to the marriage, and what sort of money is _he_ earning to support a growing family". We are always taught to consider that terribly cold-hearted and unromantic and barbaric ... while inhaling the idea that blowing a couple of ten thousand on a wedding is super romantic. Humans are such a fascinating lot.

​@@Julia-lk8jnit's all by design, a system set up to confuse and take, while pretending they're on your side

If I'm not mistaken SatC was the #2 exported tv series worldwide. This toxicity has been spread all over the world as normal behavior in the US.

Sometimes people don’t like being called racist because they don’t like to think of themselves/their actions as racist. Like recoiling from a reflection.

​@@healgothyes no one likes to be called something they are not even if like many of not all people have biases based on personal experiences. Sadly calling everyone a racist all the time for everything has just watered down the term to the point that it's meaningless to most people. Same thing with toxic n abusive. These used to be more or less shared understandings of what that actually means . However in the world of clickbait n victim mentality it's overused to say the least. So unoriginal most people are today.

It’s because people with a privilege hate having a privilege pointed out, and the sugar baby was basically showing that she had this privilege to have relationships with wealthy men no strings and on her terms but for the sugar baby it was a necessity and a means not an end It’s the same thing in any creative job-the people there are bankrolled or starving and have different viewpoints and sometimes it gets ugly

@@namedrop721 I do wish the writers acknowledged this in any way though!

​@@namedrop721 She had her own income, she dated those men for the money, but in her mind those men had to put out while dating and she could end the dates on her terms, so those were romantic dates to her; while sugar babies are completely attached to the wealthy men.

I get that's how it came off but I remember Carrie being upset that she didn't even offer and Carrie even said that she would never accept it, but to not even offer? I was right there with her on that one.

@@spj4you That’s a lot of money to expect somebody to offer you. She did accept it from her as well.

@@casieatthe3937 Fair enough.

I didn’t think I’d type so much but still, 😸 I hear you, Although, …..Charlotte didn’t seem confident in her choice to me. Just before she started yelling at Miranda, she said “I’ve made my choice and I really need YOU(Miranda) to get behind it”. Miranda was the modern womans woman’s feminist of the show while Charlotte was the ultra feminine feminist, this plot perfectly juxtaposed them. While friends can influence decisions and we care what others think especially when we love them, it’s ultimately what YOU can live with. These women had some serious co-dependency issues especially Charlotte and Carrie. I think Charlotte really got caught up with everything looking perfect, she didn’t realize that there wasn’t a foundation in her mirage. She didn’t even know that her husband didn’t want kids and neither did he evidently. So she went into planning THEIR lives out, involving children, quitting her job only to get divorced because of children they don’t have/want. Till death do we part, means nothing. So it’s the full family or none at all for Charlotte which is fair but they didn’t figure all that out before. Maybe I’m not remembering but they should’ve had one convo or so about what they wanted rather than “damn we look good together”. Trey put up a prenup before mirage and that was the only time they mentioned kids and it wasn’t a convo between the couple it was the girlfriends. Even then the “kids”, was more about their worth. The boy being worth more than the girl. In hindsight and a more realistic show (which is no fun), say she’d have gotten pregnant, looked for a replacement at work and go glaze those bowls. She was secure in mirage and life but never quit on stable situation before going on another path unless you absolutely need to. If she knew her friends like viewers interpret them, she’d know they’d come around and support her. Although I think their initial reaction was ridiculous since this lifestyle choice was right up Charlottes ally. It would’ve been more odd if she’d said she didn’t want to have kids or sent them abroad for boarding school and not raise them personally. I like her choice, I’d have done it if I were her. Miranda was always the super feminist so I think it was her reaction that got to Charlotte even more. The fact that Trey suggested it. Miranda’s choices when she got pregnant was right up her ally and Charlotte disagreed with pretty much all of them besides her decision to keep the baby. Namely, Miranda worked throughout her terms and didn’t accept Steve’s proposal early in her pregnancy after he proposed just after she told him.

@@chanoy._v8758 you know, you're right. I personally interpreted choosing your choice as being the cry of a confident woman, but that's more about how I took it, not Charlotte. I should have worded it differently. Charlotte was definitely being plaintive when she was saying it to Miranda, like she was trying to convince Miranda AND herself that she was secure in her choice. Charlotte thought she'd accomplish her goals and that would make her feel confident and at peace, instead of being confident and then finding peace.

@@DivaViews That’s right sis. I’m not one to complain about the show though. I think it was of it’s time and allows the audience of any time period to use it as a basis and make a choice for themselves.

Charlotte was insecure, that was the whole point, and she put on so much pressure on the picture perfect family that she never noticed her husband and how the relationship really was. Maybe if she had gotten pregnant straight away the divorce would have happened after the baby was born (once all her time was taken by the newborn and her mummy's boy of a husband felt "abandoned"), but in all, it was a big mistake to put so much pressure on oneself to "accomplish" something that is not entirely up to you, like getting pregnant was. I think the whole story with Charlotte was very accurate, as I know several women like that, whose marriages broke down because they married to accomplish an ideal, not because of the actual relationship.

I don’t think Charlotte was confident in that choice actually.

Also (and I feel like this is something no one seems to notice, especially when they're trying to make a point about how impossible Carrie's lifestyle is) Carrie Bradshaw lived in a studio apartment, NOT a one-bedroom. When the girls come over, they're siting in chairs (no sofa) that are at the foot of Carrie's bed. Samantha's apartment in the meatpacking district that she was so proud of was ALSO a studio apartment. No one wants to talk about how some of these fabulous apartments are places that a lot of SATC fans wouldn't deign to live in.

Carrie’s apartment was actually a studio, she had her bed in the main area divided by sheer curtains.

Same!!! I got invited to luxury events w free food and drink! I was beyond broke. If you’re pretty you can do that in NYC!

This is very true. I went to some of the best clubs and sat at tables when I used to go out in nyc because I either knew a promoter or was invited by someone who was paying. Money moves quickly in nyc, you can definitely go out for free if you are an attractive woman in nyc. I assumed the same as you of Carrie.

And made the producers a ton of money.

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 sadly that's a product of this diseased society

@@MrShaneVicious lmao you all need to chill. It was an interesting show that celebrated female friendship and life in your 30s. Heaven forbid a woman's life is glamorized for the screen.

Yes!!!!

To me it was a comedy about women being women.

Couldnt agree more

Sameee 😅👍

Same with me for every show, people are getting offended by everything these days, I also get but I realise it's just a TV SHOW and not reality

Yes I do the same as you because we are aware of what the show is about at this point in time. But imagine back then, with no internet, no additional viewpoints or perspectives, watching this show for the first time could definitely make an impact on certain aspects in your life, especially if you were a teen or in your early twenties 😃 I think that’s why so many analysis videos on SATC are now making a comeback.

Exactly, like why would you judge a fish by its ability to fly?

I was paying $650 for a studio in Queens in 1997. 😅 $700 in the 1980s in the UES is about right.

I saw my money in the overflooding book shelves...

So true… and we all thought it was such a progressive show!! Far from it!!

Charlotte is a trust fund baby from Connecticut though. She comes from money that's why she can do the jobs she has on the show.

@@almaortega9261 Yeah...that's what I got out of it too. Charlotte didn't need the money so she was free to do that art-based job. She quit that job not because she was catering to her husband but she didn't want the hassle anymore and could afford to quit now with her new dr. husband.

She doesn't need a man.. except that a man is why she has such a lavish passive income. Sickens me every time and will keep me single.

I like to think that SATC was a big help in making luxury fashion more in demand and therefore more “disposable” and thus more accessible to those of us who enjoy them pre-loved.

@@emiliabolsas that's a good point. Because I've never understood just getting rid of perfectly good things that are expensive

Ditto.