How An Interstate DESTROYED Albany, NY's Waterfront

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✵ How An Interstate DESTROYED Albany, NY's Waterfront
✵ Cities throughout the world have been created and grown due to their proximity to water. Just in the US, the three largest cities are all on major bodies of water. From river connections to important ports, it plays a major role in the location of pretty much every city. So access to this water that has created your city is also important, right? If you look at somewhere like Chicago, almost all of the waterfront within the city is filled with beaches, tourist attractions, parks, marinas, and piers. It is a very efficient and smart use of the resources provided to the city, which is why the topic of today's video, Albany New York, really gets on my nerves. See the highway that we are talking about today, I-787 has directly cut off the city's access to the waterfront for several decades now and has greatly affected the city. So today let's talk about why it’s there, what it means for the city, and if they should get rid of it.
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@BeaverGeography 2 месяца назад

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@StLouis-yu9iz 2 месяца назад

All bad press on highways is logical. Personal automobiles are horribly inefficient in every way; and as this video highlights, make places less liveable. We need to invest in passenger rail of all kinds again in America and divest ourselves from cars!

@LightningEthan 2 месяца назад

I'm relatively near Albany, this highway is definitely an eyesore

@seanabbins5481 2 месяца назад

The views of the city from 787 are not an eyesore. Absolutely gorgeous.vwhether looking at the city architecture dure the day or the spectacular lights at night

@LightningEthan 2 месяца назад

@@seanabbins5481 I mean the highway itself is an eyesore

@TommyTom21 2 месяца назад

@@seanabbins5481 Highways aren't for views. Nobody lives on a highway, instead people in the city get a view of the highway.

@seanabbins5481 2 месяца назад

@@TommyTom21 you live wherever you are. If you are on a highway and you are alive then you are living on a highway. I can't think of a single community in New York State that has a view of a riverfront from downtown.there have been a lot of recently built riverfront parks and Albany has one and so do a half a dozen other nearby communities. They are nice but they are always separate from the downtown. 787 is being blamed for something that it didn't cause.

@wildpride1119 2 месяца назад

@@LightningEthangonna have to disagree on the eyesore part.

@tomgeraci9886 2 месяца назад

What’s ironic is that Chicago also has a waterfront freeway, but it feels more well integrated into the city, and the waterfront can still stand on its own (along with lake shore drive) as icons of the city. In Albany’s case, the highway has done the opposite - completely obliterating the CBD and waterfront

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

Lake shore drive is the best waterfront highway in the country.

@ZacharyC2000 2 месяца назад

I never expected Albany to show up here, pretty cool

@seanabbins5481 2 месяца назад

For most of Albany's history, the waterfront was a port and not regarded as attractive. They actually sought ways to block views of the river with buildings. The river was thought of like we see a highway, an eye sore. A foul smelling highway. The Hudson has now cleaned up and is better looking and smelling.. they moved the port south, but it was different in the past

@stevens1041 2 месяца назад

I hope they get rid of this expressway. A lot of downtowns would benefit from re-routing their expressways to the urban fringe.

@deafleppard1812 2 месяца назад

I live near Albany, this would make no sense what your saying. 787 is a very useful route for Albany

@Nedsonland 2 месяца назад

@@deafleppard1812very plausible to turn it into a boulevard.

@i-Sparki 2 месяца назад

@deafleppard1812 How exactly? If one is heading to the Troy area, it's just as easy to take 87 to NY7. Almost all offices are not far off 90 or NY85. Its best use is a quick connection to US9 and US20 but you can just use 90 for those.

@themansplainer7726 2 месяца назад

A stupid Liberal dream

@billlauretti7963 2 месяца назад

Interesting video, but I think you're missing one key issue. You don't mention that there is busy a double-track freight railroad that runs right down the middle of I-787 through downtown Albany. Even if the expressway was removed, you would need to run the railroad through a long tunnel (massively expensive) or get rid of it (highly unlikely). Yes, from a 21st Century perspective the expressway tragically cuts off the river from downtown. However, when it was planned in the '50s-'60s the riverfront was mostly industrial and not considered an attraction by most people. I think the City of Albany is doing good work to make the riverfront more accessible, but I can't see it turning into anything like the San Antonio Riverwalk in any of our lifetimes.

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

It is going to be catastrophe if they remove freight rail line.

@EpicThe112 2 месяца назад

It will be problematic for the Canadian national Canadian Pacific main line in Albany because it forms in key route between Montreal and Port Newark. If you take it out more trucks will have to use interstates 87 287 and 78 to reach Port Newark from Montreal

@jasonreed7522 2 месяца назад

As far as the railroad is concerned there are tracks on the other side of the river for the worst case scenario of total removal. But generally railroads are alot easier to deal with as they are quieter and narrower than interstates, and generally have much lower traffic volumes. (And make considerably less air pollution) Basically a railroad can be less of a barrier to use of a waterfront than a highway, especially with well designed crossings. Obviously the ideal solution for enabling access to the river is burying the highway and railroad, but thats expensive and not always feasible. But even just demoting the highway to a surface road/boulevard would go a long way to improving access. (And definitely in removing the eyesore of a viaduct so the city can see its river again)

@MatthewMello 2 месяца назад

@@jasonreed7522 Those tracks on the east side are owned by CSX with Amtrak leasing them fully in a long term lease. CP does not have rights to those tracks.

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@MatthewMello cp comes in from the north Csx owns the old ny central lines coming out of NYC and the east-west main line Cp has a interlock agreement with csx up to Schenectady

@LtexprsGaming 2 месяца назад

I visited Albany recently on my way to view the eclipse in Upstate NY and i totally agree. It felt squished against the river. I definitely think making it a street level boulevard would be the best option, but in addition remove the tols from I-87. It makes absolutely no sense why the biggest city in NY and the capital of NY is connected by an interstate with a toll. Absolutely ridiculous.

@aaronscarpa7469 2 месяца назад

It’s NY. It makes plenty of sense that it’s a toll road. The masses don’t understand what happens when you blindly vote blue for decades.

@keff5984 2 месяца назад

Keeps the highway in good shape. Better maintained than other interstates.

@jasonreed7522 2 месяца назад

Most tolls in upstate NY are barely a factor in trip cost, gas is always the dominant cost. And besides the alternative is a tax on something else to cover maintenance costs, and tolls directly impact the users of the infrastructure. (Also all the relatively nice and clean rest stops. NY is one of the few states where the exchange of taxes for services actually works and we have nice things.)

@naptime0143 2 месяца назад

That's what they did with the former Sheridan Expressway (Formally I-895) it is now a blvd. It connected the Bruckner Expressway to E 177th Street in the bronx

@User31129 2 месяца назад

It doesn't make sense to you why two of the biggest destinations in the state (probably the only other comparable is Niagara) are connected by a road you have to pay for? It makes sense to me. Same reason that the route between Miami and Orlando is tolled. Or the route between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.

@dock_yard1149 2 месяца назад

Ohhh yeah 787 was/is an AWFUL blot on the Hudson waterfront!

@edwardrasmussen3465 2 месяца назад

There are two highways in Massachusetts which relate to this video. I-91 in Springfield cuts off the city from the Connecticut River. Perhaps someone who's more familiar with this highway can comment. In Fall River, the freeway portion of Massachusetts Route 79, the Western Fall River Expressway, has been demolished and replaced with a boulevard utilizing Davol Street, the parallel road to Route 79. Again, those people in SE MA or RI may have more information on this project.

@thomaswalters4365 2 месяца назад

D'town Hartford is cut off from the Connecticut by 91 too.

@SeaBassTian 2 месяца назад

God, that highway is a blight. Imagine sacrificing a city's most valuable asset just so wage slaves from the suburbs don't have to drive slightly out of their way. Albany could be a major upstate tourist attraction with a revitalized waterfront. Let's make it happen!

@chefssaltybawlz 2 месяца назад

This is the highway I used to take to save 50 cents from the thruway going to Montreal from NYC lol. Yeah it’s… an eyesore.

@AustinSauter 2 месяца назад

Take the Thruway to Exit 24. When you get to Exit 24, take Exit 1N to get onto the Northway. You avoid I-787 altogether.

@chefssaltybawlz 2 месяца назад

@@AustinSauter oh I know I just prefer going through this way for some reason. It’s nice to see downtown Albany and feel like I’ve gotten somewhere otherwise it’s just 5-6 hours of trees 😂

@ffoot9471 2 месяца назад

Great video - a good reminder that an interstate may solve problems but also create new ones.

@scotlawrence 2 месяца назад

I lived in Albany for a year, and my job was downtown! I knew the river was there, but I never once visited the river shore. I don't even know if it was possible then. (1993). I agree that Albany should absolutely rip out that expressway completely, it would improve the city immensely.

@stephenalexander9558 2 месяца назад

@scotlawrence - The Hudson River has limited desires of good reasons NOT to be visiting! Hudson River is a shipping route for big cargo boats. Other reason? Ongoing limited engagement of being in the Hudson River.... been & still issues of PCBs Superfund Site of concerns! Yea! 🍀🙀🧐🤔 😇 www.epa.gov/hudsonriverpcbs

@TheCaspianSea442 2 месяца назад

As a young reaident of CNY, when I heared about an interstate removal in my city of Syracuse, (a bit west of Albany) it gave me the idea to look around other cities in my area for interstates or other highways that could be removed, for fun cause I'm a nerd, I thought I-787 would be a great removal.

@BillDotree 2 месяца назад

Syracuse boy here too!

@TheCaspianSea442 2 месяца назад

@@BillDotree Yoski broski, I'm from the east side, what about you?

@johnathin0061892 2 месяца назад

Removing I-81 will be the biggest mistake Syracuse ever made (and that is saying something). #save81

@TheCaspianSea442 2 месяца назад

@@johnathin0061892 I'm not clicking that hashtag, I-81 was meant to last 55 years after it was built, and that 55 years ended a while ago. Also the highway is loud and ugly, people have to live with that in their front yards.

@jasonreed7522 2 месяца назад

Syracuse could definitely use a pruning of its highways. And ideally pair it with an actual light rail/tram system, and frequent intercity rail paralleling the highways. Normal standards of 70-90mph for I-81 from Binghamton to Canada, and HSR from Buffalo to NYC (Empire corridor). Of course NY will never build any of this, instead spending over $10 billion on illegal immigrants. (That money could have gone a long way towards other causes within the state, like our infrastructure and education.)

@saxmanb777 2 месяца назад

Definitely needs to come down. Even with the freight railroad tracks, it would be easy to build pedestrian access over them in several places.

@chasbodaniels1744 2 месяца назад

Didn’t know that Albany had the same issue as Hartford, roughly 100 miles to the east. Both capital cities are cut off from their riverfronts by north-south interstates and are desperately need the human scaled benefits that water access can bring to urban centers.

@bobbyrumsey7968 2 месяца назад

As a person who lives only 10 minutes from the downtown Albany this Highway is dog shit the part before it meets with I90 it really serves no purpose that isn't filled by other roads and this part should be demolished. At least after the I90 intersection it serves some purpose from bringing people from and south of Albany up to I 87 Northway. I hope sometime in the near future Albany can get rid of I787 and with the recent dredging process being completed the spot near the river can become a nice place to hang out if I787 is demolished.

@davidburrow5895 2 месяца назад

I've stopped at the Albany Amtrak station, which is across the river from downtown. It's essentially impossible to get from the station to downtown Albany as a pedestrian, mostly due to this freeway.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

no the Hudson river is the obstacle in this case, and I agree with you that a station should come back to Albany proper.

@Demopans5990 2 месяца назад

And no, the CDTA doesn't count, especially if you just come from NYC where even the buses are nice (by American standards)

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

@@krone5hopefully after they remove or better tunnel I-787.

@wohnai 2 месяца назад

There was a proposal to install gondolas from the train station to the Capitol complex.

@yaush_ 2 месяца назад

There is a protected pedestrian path which goes over the bridge. But I agree that it takes a horrible route and having a station to a major city like that should definitely get a better bridge. I imagine most people just take a taxi over, for that reason

@chrisk5651 2 месяца назад

I went to university at SUNY Albany and the “newer” main campus is on the opposite side of the city away from the river but they have an older campus that is down town and there is a lot of students living off campus downtown. I lived downtown but only discovered the waterfront as I knew a student who was on the crew team and went to one of his races. I started riding my bicycle to the waterfront as they had a bike pathway along the river. Shortly after graduate school I went back and they did have a riverboat docked where you could eat and drink. Not sure what it is like now.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv 2 месяца назад

The problem with removing the highway is the bridges and the rail line. Even if you remove the highway people still need a way to get on the bridges and that freight rail line is going nowhere

@carringtonpageiv6210 2 месяца назад

That circular spindle interchange is an eyesore very beautiful on the map though and so is that stack entertained I won’t lie kind of wanna drive on them and see them

@williamcarlson5405 2 месяца назад

From WC, fun fact, Interstate highways were originally planned to go around cities in a circle, with only a small section of freeway inside of the circle that would turn into a city street to take cars and trucks downtown! Another fun fact Germany, the originators of these highways eventually built to and through downtowns! I have not ever heard how that worked out for them as my time in Germany in the USAF was finished before they started doing this construction!

@rodericksmith859 2 месяца назад

They definitely need to remove it. Albany is a beautiful city and it needs to be fully connected back to its riverfront like so many other US cities on rivers but not built up around them. River cities can off so much charm. With that being said.... Pittsburgh, Grand Rapids anyone?

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

Not smart with the amount of freight leaving from the rail/river port plus you can't really move the railways main lines anywhere else

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

⁠@@lancehammons5918railway lines are vastly different from freeways though. A railway line on a viaduct is far less destructive then a freeway. Look at for example the Berliner Stadtbahn, and how it does not split the city at all.

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@@nonnadiona2659 didn't say they weren't but can't realistically put a tunnel there due to the amount of hazmat that's prohibited in tunnels coming off the river/rail port there

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

@@lancehammons5918 hazmat can’t be transported through railway tunnels? Is it really that way? How do you want to transport them trough mountainous areas? For the railway a viaduct can be build, if that is ok for safe transport.

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@nonnadiona2659 hazmat is transported thru rail tunnels and road tunnels only when no other viable or safe option is available But due to the location of a major river port, removing the highway isn't a smart issue due to a lot of highway transport being put onto surface streets

@schalitz1 2 месяца назад

They could do the "Boston treatment" between the two interchanges. It would be incredibly expensive, but I think the end result would be definitely worth it if they turn the whole area into a massive park.

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

Can't really do that due to the amount of hazmat that comes off the river/rail port there that uses i787

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

@@lancehammons5918How would that make a tunnel impossible?

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@@nonnadiona2659 like I said in the previous comment Due to the amount of hazmat coming in via the rail/river port there plus it's like pulling teeth to get the railroad to change anything

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

@@lancehammons5918 I understand that, what I don’t understand is how hazmat can’t be transported trough tunnels. Is it a regulation issue then?

@AeroGuy07 2 месяца назад

I-71 did the same thing to Cincinnati.

@stormeirman4828 2 месяца назад

Just wanted to say I always look forward to your videos no matter the topic! Keep up the great content! (And I wouldn’t mind if you happened to make a video about Maine)

@FrankMaynard 2 месяца назад

The Albany stretch of the Empire State Trail parallels the river and I-787. It's a very pleasant and level trail but the din of traffic from the elevated highway adjacent to the trail dims the serenity of a ride or run. Troy's riverfront is much nicer, and although in many places it's fronted by industrial buildings, it serves as a pedestrian thruway to get around town.

@benduncan4027 2 месяца назад

It’s an issue not only in Albany. Many other cities in the US made the move that still leaves me wondering why, as a European. They put highways right on the banks of the rivers and other bodies of water waaaay too often. Even when the land was prior built up like in Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Louisville, St Louis, Portland among others.

@BlubberBuddha 2 месяца назад

Corruption and money. Car industry was and still is very big. I mean in Europe there are lots of citys where highways kinda ruin the city but not at that american level

@johnathin0061892 2 месяца назад

Many of those bodies of water were filthy and polluted back then (the Hudson River in NYC is a good example), not places people would want to go. And the land the highways were built on was dilapidated industrial land along waterfronts that was cheap at the time. Building highways along water made perfect sense at the time.

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

It is the only option to put those highway near water which were surrounded by dirty industrial land. It will not make sense to demolish a neighborhood when you can route by the water.

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

@@maroon9273or just go around the city. There is no need for an inner city freeway in most cities, especially not in Albany!

@shsav2012 2 месяца назад

They’re not the only northeast so interstate 91 does the same thing to Hartford Connecticut

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

I-91 can be rerouted to East Hartford, to I-84 and going to I-91 or complete a bypass crossing the Connecticut River to I-91 north of Hartford.

@eth3792 2 месяца назад

Not every day I open my feed to a video on my local highways! As someone who uses 787 as a shortcut to go anywhere south of Albany, I would be sad to see it go, but the alternate route of NY-7 to I-87 is only 5 minutes longer so it wouldn't be the end of the world. I would like to point out at 8:30, NY-85 does not actually have an interchange with I-87, so you would need to go the full way around the red route (8 minutes/miles longer, 5 of those tolled) to get to where the I-90 interchange is today. However, unless you need to go somewhere right in North Albany or Menands, there will probably be a faster route available.

@scotlawrence 2 месяца назад

Downtown Richmond Virginia has the same problem. It's also on a river, but walking around downtown Richmond the river is completely invisible, you can't even tell its there, it's blocked by massive amounts of expressway flyovers and a railroad.

@charcasc7462 2 месяца назад

I live in NYC and every year I drive up to Vermont and use 87 to 787 to NY state 7 to get to Bennington. For that having 787 there is useful. But a couple of years ago I did stay one night at a hotel in Albany near the 787 and Rte. 20 interchange because I was meeting up with a friend who was living in Albany at that time. My room overlooked the interchange and have to admit it was an ugly view. 787 running along the Albany Hudson river waterfront is appalling and terrible use of the waterfront.

@AustinSauter 2 месяца назад

Then take the Thruway until you get to Exit 24. At Exit 24, take Exit 1N to I-87 North and take Exit 7.

@matthewcole4753 2 месяца назад

The Greyhound Terminal under the expressway in Albany makes me even feel unsafe. There are quite some characters in that terminal, and even signs like "no panhandling." This is coming from somebody on his way home to New York City.

@brianog5267 2 месяца назад

I hate the spaghetti network of SALT highways and byways in Albany… but let’s see as a citizen here are things more pressing 1. Jobs 2. Industry terminate government 3. Safety 4. A grocery store 5. Clean streets 6. Any sort of retail at all 7. Actuslly I will take anything at all that constitutes a living functioning city….we’ve had enough “projects” from the Empire State place to the convention center to the sky walk… we just need a city now…. Pity because it could be a perfect midsized city

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

Removing the freeway would lead to less maintenance cost in the long run, leading to more available money for other projects.

@sgrant9814 2 месяца назад

I do not know what planet you are living on but 787 is heavily trafficked and for the morning and evening rush hours it is often at a standstill esp where it connects with I90 ...saying is is otherwise is flat wrong. South of the Rensselaer exit there is better traffic flow

@wohnai 2 месяца назад

That's what I was thinking! Clearly this beaver has never had to commute across the river.

@doomsdayrabbit4398 2 месяца назад

Maybe having other options than just individual 2 ton vehicles to get to and from work would fix things...

@sgrant9814 2 месяца назад

@@doomsdayrabbit4398 i do not disagree but that is not the current reality

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

Plus with the amount of hazmat traffic going to and from the river port via 787

@gali01992 2 месяца назад

Many years ago I would come into Albany from Brattleboro on 7 and then use 787 to get to the Thruway and continue on to Cobleskill. Ugly, yes, but I didn't have to pay a toll.

@BarryWilkinson 2 месяца назад

How did you do that? You'd be tolled if you got on the Thruway at the south end of I-787 and ran west to I-88.

@gali01992 2 месяца назад

@@BarryWilkinson When I got off at I-88, I wouldn't be charged. I'm not sure why but I do know that traveling the Thruway between I-90 and I-88 was free. Get on and off anywhere between and there was no toll. But this was some years ago so I don't know if they still do that.

@BarryWilkinson 2 месяца назад

@@gali01992 The only free section of the Thruway I'm aware of is Exit 24 (the Northway) To Exit 25a (I-88). The Feds wanted the connection between the 2 routes to be free. Thanks for the reply.

@gali01992 2 месяца назад

@@BarryWilkinson It could be. As I said, it was many years ago and I thought that more was free. Sometime in the 90s I got a FastPass so I pretty much ignored all my tolls after that.

@timgerk3262 2 месяца назад

I-80 and I-580 haven't done much for Albany, CA waterfront either.

@seanabbins5481 2 месяца назад

There are gorgeous views from 787. The lights from the city at night are spectacular. And you get nice views of the historic architecture during the day

@shodges 2 месяца назад

I actually was considering moving to albany from Boston a few years back but found it too gritty

@MatthewMello 2 месяца назад

I have lived in the Albany Area twice since working with the railroad. Suburbs are quite nice.

@stephenalexander9558 2 месяца назад

58th! There are many details that are easily overlooked until you are living and driving in the Albany area on a regular basis. One of the biggest ones is the uniqueness of the Hudson River. Hudson River in Albany area is NOT that much value of "river front property" as one usually thinks when there is water nearby. One of the biggest reasons is that the Hudson River is a shipping channel for the delivery of goods into the Albany area... main product, gasoline. If you actually follow the Hudson River.... there are many other examples of NOT having river front property being the usage of Hudson River! Not sure of your source of information, that I787 is NOT a heavily used highway. Albany area serves many government workers that causes extreme congestion at BOTH rush hour morning & night. Currently this is a little bit less with the agreement that many government workers are working from home every other week! I787 also serves as a shortcut for New York State Thruway drivers with destination of the Northway of Exit 7 or above... Latham, NY area. There is lots theory about the value of I787... but there is also lots of reality being overlooked in these discussions. As a person of reality... my suggestion would be that they close I787 for an entire week! I am quite sure that there will be some incredible stories being told of just how important the value of I787 is to the whole Albany area! Yea! Hahahahaha! 😇

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

I-87 and I-90 are going to get clog up. They need a tunnel or bypass highway outside of Albany on the eastern side connecting I-90.

@stephenalexander9558 2 месяца назад

@@maroon9273 - Many thanks for your supported comment! Highly amuses me how much people devalue the importance of I787 in the Albany area! Yea! Hahahahaha! 😇

@EpicThe112 2 месяца назад

@maroon9273 you are correct how about the drivers going Springfield Massachusetts to Montreal Quebec via Albany and Lake George they would have to deal with this heavy traffic in Albany otherwise they would be going up this way Springfield Brattleboro Derby line Montreal

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@@maroon9273can't really build a tunnel due to the amount of fuel and other various hazmat load coming out of the river/rail port

@timthehistorian 2 месяца назад

Lived in Albany for a little while. I loved it but did wish I had more access to the river, I usually went to the park in Rensselaer to walk along the river. That being said I did use 787 all the time.

@tomtbi 2 месяца назад

Similar to Syracuse NY Rerouting I 81..

@stephkent2736 2 месяца назад

Without a huge amount of racist history attached to it.

@dock_yard1149 2 месяца назад

That "circle in the air" interchange just south of downtown is an utter montrosity. You have to see it at water/street level to contemplate how OVERbuilt it is. The missing part of this story is the "South Mall Connector" coming into this circular mixmaster from the west. That THING was supposed to intersect with a never-built North-South connector, just west of the "Empire State Plaza" (the South Mall, or NY State gov't complex, with the 5 modern towers). The N-S connector would have ripped out the east end of Washington Park and displaced a lot of city housing, something that the 1960-1973 ESP construction did. All of this heavily pushed thru by former gov Nelson Rockefeller, who had NO love for the city of Albany and basically ram-rodded this State offices complex thru to completion. Thankfully the N-S connector was canceled before any construction, yet the g/d South Mall Connector remained on the books. And thus the monster "circle in the air" interchange with 787 had to be built as well. All very unfortunate, and none of it has ever been used to anything approaching saturating capacity. Shameful.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

this needs to go, nobody hangs out in this part of the city.

@BarryWilkinson 2 месяца назад

Removing I-787 would be disastrous to the fuel industry. Hundreds of fuel tankers use it everyday to get to the Ports of Albany and Rensselaer, where 90% of the fuel/gasoline is loaded for the Capitol Region. Upstate New York, Vermont and parts of New Hampshire. There is literally no other way to get to the ports.

@Mistertbones 16 дней назад

I'm from the Albany area. 787 has really bad traffic during rush hour.

@davezobeljr9025 2 месяца назад

I think putting the highway into a tunnel and building the park area and fair grouns place would be great

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

Can't really do that with the amount of hazmat going to and from the river port via 787

@marklittle8805 2 месяца назад

Albany needs this. No one needs that highway. Even at grade it is better than this ugly thing

@AnousGmaing 3 дня назад

we don't need I-787. We don't even need the exit itself. Although it may be faster to get access to US 9W using the Exit 1 interchange. People can still take Exit 21B (NY Thruway). Some people use this highway to access US 9, US 20. It can be the Thruway's Exit 23. People also use it for I-90. Even I-87 meets with I-90 we don't need the highway. Port of Albany. Use NY 32 as I-787 uses NY 32 for Exit 2. How do you get to NY 32? Here are some steps: 1-Go to I-90 using I-87 2- Take exit 6(use north exit) 3-Take exit for Northern Blvd. (then turn right) 4.Turn left on N pearl Street (NY 32) Exit 6 same thing Exit 7E 7W: Use NY 32 for NY 378 Exit 8: Same thing use NY 32. Exit 9E 9W: Use I-87 (Northway) Although its faster, we don't need it.

@ChatGPT1111 2 месяца назад

You could put parks on the opposite river bank with pedestrian bridges every quarter mile or so. Maybe put a Roosevelt Island style skyway by downtown with stops on both sides of the interstate.

@AustinSauter 2 месяца назад

One of my aunts lives in the area, so you might’ve seen her without even knowing it. I went to the Capitol and the NYS Museum in fourth grade, so you might’ve seen our class without even knowing it.

@BertiferousRex 2 месяца назад

How much use would the Albany waterfront actually get in practice if the highway wasn't here? It's way too cold most of the year to swim, if you even could with the Port of Albany right nearby. There are state parks nearby such as Peebles Island. I've used 787 many a time to bypass part of the thruway and to get into downtown.

@timothyokane9710 Месяц назад

A funny thing happened when I pushed the thumbs up ,the number changed to 787.

@colormedubious4747 2 месяца назад

The city most egregiously cut off from its waterfronts might well be Pittsburgh.

@daniel_4625 2 месяца назад

I grew up down the river in Poughkeepsie and the situation on the riverfront is much better than albany’s. Theres a freeway (US 9) running through downtown which turns into a boulevard at points. It could have been a similar situation to albany but the implementation didnt cut off residents from easily accesing the area. Albany could definitely take notes on what Poughkeepsie did as the waterfront is a major hotspot for tourism and is a lively part of town.

@CrimeAndConspiracies 6 дней назад

idk how you can even compare albany to poughkeepsie lol its just not the same

@wildhorsestudios1209 2 месяца назад

Chicago shows how to have six lanes and parks... Southside Chicago 8s still not fixed for lake access and uses..

@patrickhenry4742 2 месяца назад

Dawg I'm from the area great video but nothing on earth can fix that fuxkhole of Albany NY

@jaydenwilliams6133 2 месяца назад

My hometown, I’ve been on 787 thousands of times

@SoupSanity128 2 месяца назад

Cool

@cheesemaster113 2 месяца назад

Aren't there housing projects and section 8 slums all along the river? I think most well to do people avoid these areas for good reason.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

this item only knocked down a portion of downtown ny , this was mostly built on silt land. It should get shrunk.

@therandomidiotontheinternet 2 месяца назад

next up is duluth

@gruncletim 2 месяца назад

It's my understanding that the original concept of the interstate system was to avoid going through cities, but pass nearby with spurs going into the cities. I'm curious how the interstate system would have developed to this day had that concept been kept from the beginning. Would it have been better, or worse? Hmmmmm.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

for the most part this goes around Albany proper, with the Broadway and Ferry Street area being most affected.

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

It will be worse in many congested cities unless they build car shuttle rail lines.

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

Europe did that! It works there, in combination with puplic transport

@gruncletim 2 месяца назад

I've travelled in Europe, and they do have very good public transportation. It is an interesting concept to have suburban commuters to park away from the city center and take reliable public transportation into the city. Maybe some population centers may adopt this approach? Hmmmm.

@nonnadiona2659 2 месяца назад

@@gruncletim well, they definitely should. It also makes sense in a capitalistic way. Good public transport enables way more density, which has a lot of positive effects on cities and on their sustainability.

@bhb192 2 месяца назад

This freeway placement is nothing short of severe

@stopsign997 2 месяца назад

Philadelphia would be another good example

@Insertgenericusernamehere809 2 месяца назад

yea, I-95 has ruined the waterfront definitely.

@casey1027 2 месяца назад

Isn't I87 the Northway and a free highway?

@ZacharyC2000 2 месяца назад

It becomes the northway at the i-90 interchange to the west of albany

@AustinSauter 2 месяца назад

@@ZacharyC2000I hate the Thruway. I avoid it whenever I can because it’s too expensive.

@cagedtigersteve 2 месяца назад

How about an Albany Big Dig

@Demopans5990 2 месяца назад

A lot of highways can get a Big Dig. Looking at the Cross Bronx in particular. Put that 2 stories underground

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@@Demopans5990can't really do that due to the amount of hazmat and oversized loads traversing i95 between Connecticut and northern jersey

@Demopans5990 2 месяца назад

@lancehammons5918 Nothing a few bulldozers and eminent domain can't fix. NYC needed a highway bypass 40 years ago

@lancehammons5918 2 месяца назад

@Demopans5990 can agree with you on that but due to most hazmats being prohibited in tunnels and local opposition The best for a bypass is 287

@mattsmocs3281 2 месяца назад

The answer is always removing highways regardless.

@user-oe6wg2yu8m 2 месяца назад

The Albany waterfront is wonderful, especially after it rains. When you go fishing, your guaranteed to catch numerous condoms. El discussto Bravo Albany.

@geographyjawade6655 2 месяца назад

Albany does not give a darn about thier waterfront it seems...lol. I would like to know y they decided to pit it there in the first place, when there's so much empty lands on the other side of the river.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

Rensselaer side is tricky, there is only on rr line that goes north of that city and no roads along the riverbank.

@geographyjawade6655 2 месяца назад

@@krone5 okay....never been to Albany...would like to visit n see what it's like

@harrisonbalduf3290 2 месяца назад

The bigger tragedy (you missed) isn't of the roads themselves, but of the railroad. Albany Union station was on the west side of the river, connecting the east-of-Hudson mainline, west-of-Hudson "West Shore" line, traffic west to Schenectady, traffic north towards Mechanicsburg, traffic east towards Chatham & Boston, and the in-city lines. Due to the high taxation of the extensive facilities adjacent to the freight yards and port facilities, the railroads opted to remove the terminal from the downtown of the city. When you take the train to "Albany" you're dropped off in sleepy Rensselaer, having to get across a river to be "in town".

@JonSwimmer Месяц назад

Removing a freeway is not going to help Albany, fact is Albany's a total yikes!

@MrWilderNapalm 2 месяца назад

Exact same thing has happened in Louisville Kentucky. The idiots built I-64 directly between the water and the Central Business District. They did elevate it which still gives access to the waterfront but it looks like absolute hell.

@maroon9273 2 месяца назад

Then those highways will go through busy neighborhoods and bulldoze them. For I-71, they can cap the sunken parts of it and add walkways underneath the elevated interstate interchanges.

@MrWilderNapalm 2 месяца назад

@@maroon9273 There is no need for the section of I-64 between I -65 and the I-264 Interchange. Any vehicle moving west to east can bypass Louisville to the north on I-265 or if they are head south they can depart I-64 at the I-264 interchange and pick up I -65 south. I spent 30 in KyDOT and I firmly believe that section could be removed with minimal impact. Just look at a map of the region and you will see what I mean.

@doomsdayrabbit4398 2 месяца назад

Steamed hams.

@katiefrisk980 2 месяца назад

what is it with the “mall arterial” west of the us-20 bridge interchange that leads under the state capitol then abruptly ends and makes a u-turn? looks like some political egomaniac’s failed project.

@keff5984 2 месяца назад

Was going to be underground and interchange with a n/s expressway that was never built

@ZacharyC2000 2 месяца назад

It also was planned to go the other way via the dunn memorial bridge through Rensselaer up to i-90 in defreetsville and you can still see on the rennselear side of the bridge stub ends where it would've continued

@-Katastrophe 2 месяца назад

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. no one is going to want to visit Albany even if it had a million square miles of parks, there's literally nothing to do there. Even if you shoved this highway underground or capped it near the downtown what would that get you? higher maintenance costs and that's about it. Sure you'd get some more grass near the river but the utilization is questionable.

@MrChilili 2 месяца назад

Let me tell you, these downtown freeways really don’t need to exist. Freeways are for long distance quick travel, and when they’re put in densely populated areas, they just mess everything up.

@yourfriend5886 2 месяца назад

Face reveal?

@Kahoobb 2 месяца назад

Why do you sometimes have a lisp and then other times have no lisp whatsoever when saying words with the S sound? Are you trolling?

@BeaverGeography 2 месяца назад

Yeah I'm trolling

@MikeV8652 2 месяца назад

To whatever extent some consider this road a problem, it was put where it is by their own state politicians. If New Yorkers now want to "reimagine" it into something else, let them pay for it themselves, with not one red cent of Federal Highway Trust Fund money (fuel taxes from the rest of us nationwide), and let them pay for the other highway improvements that will be necessary to take up the slack. Also, let's make them reimburse the trust fund for money that they wasted on this highway in the first place. I'm tired of urban folks changing their minds about their highways and wanting me to pay for it.

@krone5 2 месяца назад

your problem is this will cost money no matter what you do.

@MikeV8652 2 месяца назад

@@krone5 No, bro! People have to learn to pay for their own bad decisions, not expect others to.

@yes-hm4gk 2 месяца назад

It'll most likely cost tax payers more money to continue to maintain this highway rather than just denolishinhing it over the long run

@MikeV8652 2 месяца назад

@@yes-hm4gk By that logic, we should demolish all roads. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@krone5 2 месяца назад

@@MikeV8652 this highway arterial section is complicated north of Madison Avenue, I am not sure if that there was a train line in the middle of the road network.

@paulyearley1084 2 месяца назад

Because it was briefly mentioned, I drove on the Inner Loop (well, what's left of it) for the first time in many years on Friday, and it renewed my hatred for that godawful thing. I'm glad it's being taken out. ...and nobody likes Albany.

@ZacharyC2000 2 месяца назад

Hey, I *want* to like albany