How Bad Is It? What's Left of this Tri-Axle Lowboy Trailer After Blasting [EP2]

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What's left of this rotted out, rusty pile of Witzco trailer? #lowboy
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@nicholasherman8155 Год назад

I am a independent truck and equipment repair shop owner down here in the northwest. I’ve rebuilt several trailers with that same suspension. Those are Hendrickson HT230 low slung suspension. Flat decks use a over slung beam and lowbeds run the underslung beams. The trunions and tool are readily available from Hendrickson. It will have 4707 brake shoes and KIC drum number 60001-018. 46305 seals if you are using the drive in or 46300 if you are using the push in seals. Hopefully you can find a set of S cams that long that have the thin s to run the 4707 shoes on. If not you will need to run 4515 shoes. They looked to be double anchor pin brake spiders on those axles.

@richardmccann4815 Год назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@nicholaswaddell4141 2 месяца назад

Makes me happy when I see people sharing valuable knowledge like this. As a soon to be owner operator I appreciate people like you

@Stressdaninjalo Год назад

You need a needler scaler attachment for your air hammer.

@zsolthajdu5007 Год назад

One of my favorite tools.

@caveone-365 Год назад

Literally came here to say the same. Also, I bet a torque multiplier would've helped you get those lugs off. They were no doubt overtightened, but I guarantee it would've helped to try one. Your kitty is adorable BTW 👍

@alerickson8999 Год назад

I’ve always called it a rust rattler. But sounds like the same thing has a dozen or so hardened pins wokes the same as an air hammer

@chrisewalt25 Год назад

I came here to say the same thing. Still would have been labor intensive but it probably beats a hammer

@chrisewalt25 Год назад

Gotta have your ears on running the big milwaukee on those wheels 🙏

@SuperSecretSquirell Год назад

I used to rebuild those Henderson axles at a previous job. All you really need that you're not going to find at your local truck and trailer parts house is the bushing and pivot collars. There's a special tool from Henderson to press them out and in. I found it was easier to burn out the old bushing, that tool will never press them out when they're that old and corroded.

@da_SpiffR Год назад

The jackstand under the ratchet head is BRILLIANT. Could've used that idea many times...

@timamyett9679 Год назад

I have always had the disease of taking something broken and discarded and reviving it.The problem is making sure the time and money spent making it new is worth the investment. Looks like you have a worthy project here. Heavy iron ...bulldozers and track loaders were my best candidates.

@FUCK_________googIe Год назад

that's not a disease that's called intelligence

@NoWr2Run Год назад

My " DISEASE " is trying to make things better that are not broken, LOL. Some times it works out, some times not so much & it cost's me.

@tdotw77 Год назад

13:23 Adapters absolutely kill your torque wrenches abilities! Also the bigger socket has more mass and therefore more energy transferred to the lugs. They even make some sockets with additional material mass added to the sides, just for the inertia gain they provide. 👍🛠️🔥🔧💪⚒️

@number40Fan Год назад

You look like you belong in a Mad Max film after chipping off that rust! 23:25

@P0LYPRO Год назад

That or on stage singing. I absolutely lost it after seeing that.

@RuedigerEtzold Год назад

Lol like Charlize Theron you mean 😂

@isb170swap8 Год назад

I think the nuts were hard to remove because they were run on futher than normal because the drums weren't on the axle and prob run into junk threads.

@DGHD Год назад

Nailed it

@coltonmcrae5873 Год назад

The needle scalers work amazing if you buy the big ones. The ones on air hammers and other adapters just don't have the violence. We use the all the time to de-scale transit bus axles.

@aserta Год назад

Yep. There's needle scalers and then there's NEEDLE scalers. If you don't know and buy the simple, cheapie ones, you'll always think they're no good. Get the right, built for purpose one and you'll experience the real deal and jittery hands after.

@ionstorm66 Год назад

Yep a good needle scaler will dimple tool steel to look like cast lol.

@texxasal Год назад

Really starting to look good. When working with rusted nuts. 10-15 seconds with a torch does wonders. Also, we use needle air scalers instead of air chisels.

@DGHD Год назад

I picked up a scaler, but the chisel worked better. The chisel took the entire scale off, where the needle scaler seemed to take layers off one by one. Felt much better on the hands though

@carlthor91 Год назад

@@DGHD Rich, was that the LARGE scaler? I've seen SASE, which are two handed, to use their large one efficiently. Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.

@aserta Год назад

Don't use torches, buy an induction nut heater. Faster, simpler, less gas consumed. Best investment you can make if you see more than 30 rusty nuts per month. Also, don't skimp on it, buy the quality units. Buy once, cry once.

@wobblysauce Год назад

@@asertayou can make your own with some rod and battery

@h.h.legacydiesel6724 Год назад

Rich, l can't believe how straight this old trailer is, aside from the top edges being bent down from dumb loading? Or not? All the I-beams are like new! You have your self a really great trailer, new brakes, air bags, air lines & tanks, bearings and well? You have a crap load of sanding and painting! This thing is going to shine! One awesome looker! Are you painting the frame the same colour as the cab-over? Wishing you continued great luck with the trailer! ✌🏻🤘🌦 🇨🇦. ☕️⏳️. 🍁- ONTARIO 🐈 meow. 9 kittens last week, can't wait 🤗. Want some?

@mattharrell4 Год назад

I love to see Vince in videos, the guy is an absolute artist welding, but never hesitates to get his hands dirty doing other jobs. 👍🏻

@HotForgeChaos Год назад

Its funny watching him wail on that deck with the large shillelagh and a dart hanging oot his mouth

@dwightuhl3360 Год назад

If Phil isn't the coolest neighbor ever then idk who is. . . . Of course he has a big wheel loader that you can just go borrow at random.

@chunkychambers1530 Год назад

Never realized how much deeper that center beams are. Like you said makes sense why they get stuck all the time.

@averyw.3939 Год назад

Not all of them are like that, our trailer is the same height inside and out, some are even opposite of that with the center rails higher on the top side. Works great for big, high clearance equipment, not so well for anything too narrow or low.

@jeepindave5464 Год назад

Trade off for a flat deck. Gotta have a tall beam to not bend in half.

@aserta Год назад

@@averyw.3939 Probably not the same tonnage.

@averyw.3939 Год назад

@@aserta Our trailer is a 60 ton

@carlcarlamos9055 Год назад

These trailers have a poor resale value. This is probably one of the reasons why. Anything that is going to get you in a wrestling match with a train is a bad idea. Take care.

@alexpratt960 Год назад

lol 30:55 - around here, it's if you see the old guy on the riding mower that we know he has a DUI

@gregweber8951 Год назад

It works better with the 3/4 because the extension is taking torque away from the lug nut

@chrisklamm3333 Год назад

For as much rusty stuff you bring back to life, a needle scaler would be handy.

@aserta Год назад

29:28 yellow-legged mud dauber AKA Sceliphron caementarium, caused the crash of an airplane once, otherwise harmless if you're not finding them inside the intake of your engine or some weep hole necessary for engine functions.

@waggtech4883 Год назад

Otherwise beneficial if you dislike spiders. They anesthetize spiders for the dauber larva to feed on…

@johnhackett9552 Год назад

i used to smoke like vince while working now that im 63 i can't hardly breath and walk still smoke though lol not really funny

@jacksgarageworkshop Год назад

You NEED a needle scaler gun for getting that scale and crud off. That’s a big and awkward project but going to be so worthwhile to have your own trailer.

@Viperman200221 Год назад

This vid is the epitome of "If Your Not Filthy, You're Not Rich"! Nice work!

@justinwatch Год назад

No need for any 12-volt Milwaukee batteries on this project. See you on the next one!

@prototype3a Год назад

@ 14:00 Pretty sure you were actually losing a lot of impact energy using your 1" to 3/4" adapter. A socket directly on the anvil of an impact is always more efficient / powerful.

@axlapointe Год назад

Would be a good @TorqueTestChannel video!

@prototype3a Год назад

@@axlapointe Pretty sure they already tested it.

@TheFridge Год назад

Have you considered making a air receiver for the big rattle guns? Get a little tank, hook it to the end of you long airline from the compressor, then add a 3' section of 5/8 or 3/4" air line to the tool. The short, large, line allows the tool to make use of as much air as it can, without the flow restriction of a long air line. Makes it easier to crack those rusted lugs.

@RealNickTheCoolest Год назад

I'm a trailer mechanic, had a golf cart hauler made by "sun valley trailers". It was an old ride well suspension but the brake setup was weird and nobody we called could send us the right part. I found a casting number on a drum and looked it up on Google and napa ended up having the drums and shoes. It sat in our yard for about a year until I finally decided to just look into it.

@JosephArata Год назад

Kind of the same deal, working on anything old Ford/GMC Medium duty with air over hydraulic brake system. There are still pieces of equipment running around with that old stuff still on it. There's still a couple of companies that make brand new backing plate assemblies with new wheel cylinders and shoes as a whole kit for them.

@theglitch99 Год назад

NEW SUB HERE!! Im a Texas Heavyhauler! I like your content and glade I find your channel!

@bigslim492 Год назад

You get that trailer all fixed up like new with a new deck, fresh paint and polished wheels and you won’t want to work it. Going forward if you keep your deck oiled up a couple of times a year with some neatsfoot oil (or the oil of your choice) and your deck will last almost forever. By the way don’t let your foot slip off that long handle you were using to break your lug nuts free. You would really be hating life when it springs back and hits you in your nuts. lol 😂

@michaelovitch Год назад

Extensions on impact guns reduce A LOT their ability. The more elements ,wiggle and play you have between the nut,socket,extension and square end of the gun,the more energy is dispersed and lost in twisting and impact absorption of steel. The best is the lighter,harder,smaller,tighter socket you can get without extension. Think to a dual mass flywheel,it's the same principle.

@chriswoodward5368 Год назад

I know it a little late but next time you do this. if you have a way to lift the trailer and 2 guys build a stand to go under the trailer a foot taller than the wood deck. Lift the trailer put the stand between the crossmembers let the trailer down. And repeat. It is amazing how fast you can do this job like this. We would do the left and right side at same time. 2 stands. Watch out for flying would. It’s better to be the guy on the fork lift.

@AdriaanVerburg Год назад

Looks like a Witzco, cheap trailer. The way you straightened out the outside rails, very nice. If the lug nuts are torqued correctly then all you need is a 3/4 inch Milwaukee. “If” is the keyword of course. To many tire jockeys out there who don’t “need “ a torque wrench. “ Been doing it that way for 20 years. Don’t oil your lug nuts, you don’t want the nuts to come off do you?” The only way to torque correctly is when lug nuts are able to turn freely, so yes I do oil them.

@tomkrisel4493 Год назад

You saw all the rust from alot of years, didn't you?

@winstoncryer7606 Год назад

Now you know what it's like to be a powdo scrape operator in the summer you sweat dust-collecting to you end of the day you're a mud kegger and hoping the water truck comes by they give you a spray...

@DGHD Год назад

I went for a swim in the pond. Felt great

@nozmoking1 Год назад

When you climbed up to step on that breaker bar everybody yelled "Don't do it!" Nobody wanted to see something snap and you ending up getting konked on the head with a high-velocity ratchet! (personal experience involved)

@ziptiejedi5658 Год назад

You need to get a turbo tip for your preasure washer. They make such a huge difference on hard to clean stuff. It's basically the small tip(red) that spins super fast and makes a cone of super high pressure water. It's the only way we can clean our crab pots before painting them. It will take a lot of rust off also.

@bgslade1 Год назад

Stop using WD 40 as a rust penetrant. PB Blaster, I use that shit on everything!!

@boltonky Год назад

Your arms must be jacked haha, also might be worth getting a needle scaler its good when your dealing with rust or scale

@jakem.6359 Год назад

There aren't many of us that can see the potential it what others think is scrap. It's a lot of work....but the satisfaction and the end result is well worth the effort

@pierrelandry4742 Год назад

Didn't realize you were a Chainsaw artist

@DGHD Год назад

I used to do chainsaw carvings when I was younger. Dolphins were the best sellers and I made good money at it. I did a couple fairs. Fun, but I don't have the time anymore

@eck8240 Год назад

You're a good man yeah the cats snitched on you you're a good guy yeah he told me so you know your cat's working for me now❤

@Nicmadis Год назад

When it's time to find old nails and other bits of metal after tearing something down, stick some decent size magnets on a rake and just rake the area a few times. Tends to work like a charm.

@aidanridings8452 Год назад

You will need to slide that 5th all the way back because otherwise you will take out the rear t bumper.

@greasemonkey7744 Год назад

got a big nightmare of a project for tonight into this weekend and just sat down and watched a few of your vids they are always motivating thanks for keeping me motivated! always helps to see someone else work hard for what some people just buy🤘

@HootMaRoot Год назад

Surprised you don't wet media blast when outside since it has rust inhibitor in the water used

@ryanbrown5214 Год назад

That was what we call a dirt dobber here in Louisiana. That is what makes those dirt houses that stop ups air lines lol.

@davidsawyer1599 Год назад

Words you and I often hear. "I would never do what you do." One other thing. It is mind-numbing work, no doubt. Yet if you gave the job to one with a numb mind. You would then start using your mind to solve all the problems they somehow created. Good stuff.

@carlcarlamos9055 Год назад

The most disappointing thing about a decking job is if you get violent curls in the wood both sideways and lengthwise when it dries. Take care.

@JDF915_ Год назад

The smaller gun probably did better because of its higher ipm.

@setteam9337 Год назад

Needle scaler would have worked wonders on this ol girl

@Mikki_Tu Год назад

Hi Rich, to help speed up the rust scale removal get yourself a needle gun, I used them in heavy marine refinishing and they blast through everything that's not solid steel.

@Mike-Honcho- Год назад

Can’t wait to see the next episode on this. Great video as always.

@66Thetraveller Год назад

Time for some major sandblasting for a good painting surface.

@tamberp Год назад

Something I've noticed about those Milwaukee electric inch impacts is, if there's even slightly too much play in the setup -- whether a worn out socket, or you have an adapter in like you did to start with -- they **really** struggle. I think they're not hitting *as* hard per blow but they're hitting faster, whereas the old (clapped out 😄) air-gun is hitting slower but harder each time; so the air-gun can power through that loss with a loose-fitting socket, but the electric gun is losing relatively more of its hit-force. One thing's for sure about both options: Damn they're heavy when you're swinging 'em around all day.

@randyruppel6727 Год назад

When I gp back to work tomorrow, I'll look up the brakes and drums, hubs should give you seals, if not can usually match to bearings. Go manual slacks if you can (I don't remember the year of your trailer) sometimes those lowboy s cams can be harder to get, but you shouldn't have too much trouble, that is if you haven't already figured it all out

@DGHD Год назад

I figured out the S cams, and they won't be in until middle of August. Everything else should be off the shelf parts. Would still appreciate numbers though. Its a 23 000 lbs Hendrickson 250XT I believe.

@towboatjeff Год назад

Need a needle gun instead of the air hammer.

@MB-kq9by Год назад

I know hindsight is 20/20 but last time I swapped boards on a drop deck we wet the wood and used a torch to wash the bolt heads then just lifted the boards up with a strap and forklift, came back and cut and grinned the bolts flush.

@DGHD Год назад

Thanks for the tip. If I still have the trailer in 20 years, I will try that lol! Where were you three weeks ago?

@brianconnelly2115 Год назад

I used a few tourq heads and an impact wrench but got the screws out and was able to reuse the holes. Drilling through an old screw is a real pain.

@winstoncryer7606 Год назад

Please please please at least put One support on the other side😮😂

@markae0 Год назад

23:29 It looks like you purposely hit your eyes WTF? no glasses?, no SAFETY glasses? That's nuts. You only get one set of eyes.

@DGHD Год назад

Not one person has every complimented me on always wearing ear protection or a mask. When I wear the mask, the glasses fog up in 15 seconds. And a fun fact, eyes will repair themselves.

@max16 Год назад

you should really buy a turbo head for the pressure washer.. they are amazing for knocking anything off.

@CharlesManch Год назад

For a "dustless blaster"....... Made an awful lotta dust......

@RuedigerEtzold Год назад

An induction heater "thingi" for bolts might be a nice addition to your workshop. Although i dont know how affordable those things are. Nice work on the trailer, excited for upcoming progress.

@first_last01 Год назад

couple hundred

@aserta Год назад

@@first_last01 Worth even at 500. If you math out the gas used, the potential damage when you work more delicate stuff, worth ever penny. I bought one for 240 euros and it's the most bang for the buck i've had. I go in, zap the coil on, click it, nut goes orange, let it cool, and they come off. In 3 years of using mine, i've had maybe 4 nuts that were stubborn to the treatment and during the pandemic i pretty much spent all that free time sorting out all my junk, cleaned the entire back part of my shop, so i took off rusty nuts galore.

@leed7951 Год назад

It'll be bout a thousand

@douglasthompson2740 Год назад

Have you tried a needle scaler for that heavy rust? Works much better than the chisel.

@mediocre_moto Год назад

I ran into a similar wheel nut issue recently, ended up getting one of those 70:1 reduction wheel nut breakers. Worked up a heck of a sweat, but ended up getting them all off.

@Wordsnwood Год назад

"on the mountain"... way to confuse all those folks who did not grow up around the Escarpment. 😆😆

@FoolOfATuque Год назад

My problem with projects is I don’t know when to stop. For example my daily driver Mini Cooper S has a turbo not making boost. So I did the right thing and bought a bigger turbo. Then a cold air intake so she can breathe. Then a 2.75” downpipe, and a full 2.75” exhaust. Oh and a silicone inlet tube for the turbo. Oh and a turbo blanket. Oh and a boost gauge. Oh and I will be doing a tune on it to fix the power issues. Might do a new diverter valve while I’m at it, but we will see.

@austindoud273 Год назад

Did you replace the turbo oil feed thoes coke up and starve the turbo of oil there's an upgraded part that has a bunch of heat shielding and maybe some rerouting

@DatBoiOrly Год назад

28:39 ya need a needler Ritch it's a $15 attachment & it'll make your life 1000% easier especially removing rust and scale

@bryanewing5058 Год назад

I think that hornet bee thing was a mud dobber. They don’t really sting people usually.

@stephenjones6446 6 месяцев назад

yup thats a mud wasp

@DirtdragonRS Год назад

It's just weight reduction

@johnmorrow1628 Год назад

I just replaced about 20 deck boards on a tralier like that. Just as rusty, my hands are killing after all the drilling to get the deck screws in

@fowletm1992 Год назад

Sometimes those jobs are great, no metal input, little monetary input (i the scheme of things). Big satisfaction with a completed project

@aaronb6727 Год назад

With the weight of Sherm, it may be a good time to replace all the airbags. Definitely not an "along side the road" job, loaded or empty.

@andersaxelsson2196 Год назад

The fittings to the fifth wheel is so different compere to sweden where we have Swan neck low boy trailers allmost every where.

@willtricks9432 Год назад

Worth doing and the video was worth waiting for. Getting ready to watch paint dry. Exciting.

@teamidris Год назад

I go in with phosphoric acid next to get those rust crystals killed off deep in the steel :o)

@bobmoroney3643 Год назад

When removing floor decking I would use a skill saw in the middle of the cross members, smash the wood down and off, then hammer the studs off. Some grinding of the studs required but it went fast.

@michaelreynolds1904 Год назад

Id recomend painting everything that wont be visable on that trailer with coal tar paint. Same stuff they use on boat hauling trailers that go in salt water.

@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248 Год назад

Your one HELLA good worker you do ABSOLUTELY amazing work appreciate that!!!!!!! HAPPY 4th to you and your FAMILY

@DGHD Год назад

Thank you!

@FauxPro2023 Год назад

Wishing happy 4th to a Canadian? hahaha

@om617yota8 Год назад

@@FauxPro2023 Haha that gave me a chuckle too.

@momadvalgyusta7433 Год назад

Hy i like you vídeos .👍🇲🇿

@jamesstone8453 Год назад

You ever think of using a needle scaler to take the rust off?

@2007dalin Год назад

you need a needle scaler not a air hammer lmao

@bobmoroney3643 Год назад

BETWEEN THE CROSS MEMBERS NOT THE MILDDLE OF THE CROSS MEMBERS. Always re-read before posting

@BackyardMechCon Год назад

If those timbers were flipped and the surface sanded you never know they were that bad previously. The centre of the timber was mint...

@dustinrieck312 Год назад

Have you checked the arch because the video looks like its to flat you can have it reacrhed.

@HotForgeChaos Год назад

I am very surprised that forkhoist didn't fire even with the battery that low, those Toyota 5L engines normally have a 10 second glow timer on them and something like 20:1 compression, so they generally fire pretty good, mine's been that low and still fired right up after a glow. Also they don't break. As long as it has oil in it, it'll run. They just don't get you anywhere in a hurry. Even the 2L-TE 2.4 litre engines are still slower than walking pace. My van with a 5L-E only has a couple hundred thousand miles on it but it'll do another couple hundred thousand before I even really have to start thinking about doing anything major to it like looking at the bearings. But the body will rot into oblivion before that happens.

@marty0715yt Год назад

YAMATIC Pressure Washer Turbo Nozzle 4000 PSI Max. 5000 PSI, 360° Rotating Turbo Spray Tips for Power Washer with 1/4" Quick Connector, 4.0 GPM $57 You'll kick yourself for no buying sooner.

@MrVantage8 Год назад

19:48 😂😂😂 I thought Luigi from Cars had just snuck onto the set there for a minute... Flashback...😂😂😂

@vmoney9106 Год назад

Best part is Vince smoking a dart

@cp-jc2784 Год назад

What battery size? I know the 1" D-handle works tons bettrr with a 12ah battery. The 8ah feels like almost half the thump. The 12ah isn't cheap (just under $400 tax in), but definitely worth it for that impact.

@Stahodad Год назад

25:04 Is that a Nissan Leaf in the back ground? What is the story behind that, I wonder. We almost bought one, used, a nice US car, but the 11 k replacement battery cost had me thinking twice. 😊

@seansysig Год назад

You need a big ass twin screw air compressor with a Ingersoll Rand 2955 Impact wrench 1.5” drive 4.5K ft-lbs of reverse torque!

@jfv65 Год назад

Scott from 'Bus grease monkey' uses a torque multiplier tool to get stuck/rusted/ way overtorqued wheel nuts lose. It has gears in it. It works slow but with incredibly high torque. The nuts/studs/bolts either come lose or they snap off. No inbetween.

@ohnoitisnt Год назад

Those impact guns can be made useless with the wrong socket setup... Ideal world is a not deep impact socket with the matching drive " to the gun. And if the socket fits tightly on the gun, even better. No room for flex, i guess. Which would explain why the 3/4 gun did better because theres no extension and its a short socket

@david929190 Год назад

Huge respect for the work you do for a good paint job.

@carlcarlamos9055 Год назад

A good paint job is an absolute requirement for a lowboy. Particularly underneath where you can’t see. This one has just been caught in time. Most factory paint on lowboys is poor quality, and underneath will have disappeared in several years. This includes a number of companies that have high opinions of themselves. Some kind of protective finish on the underside of floor boards will also prolong trailer life. Take care.

@DanKoning777 Месяц назад

Great topic/content-the only negative [jmo], is the amount of discussion re: what needs to be done, is being done, has been done, and why.

@TechOne7671 Год назад

Another minted video Rich, thanks. And happy belated Canada day. July 1st. All the best.

@winstoncryer7606 Год назад

🤔🤔 Curiosity Fourth of July is a American thank you all celebrate it to... Some other cultures for some stupid reason have

@bryanmorgan8501 Год назад

I'm a diesel mechanic for a living. We service all our own stuff. I feel your struggle with rust and stuck lugnuts and bolts. Good luck

@robpeters5204 Год назад

That is a horrible job from the sandblasting. They should have used the black oxide stuff. It gets a lot more of that rusty crap off and gives an excellent surface for ultimate primer and paint adhesion.

@lk0234 Год назад

dear friend epi in the use of jet and essentials, I had friends with various health problems. So I'm looking without alerting everyone!

@bachtomin213 Год назад

Rich, are those Dagwood Bumstead shorts CSA approved?. 😄👍

@TDG2654 Год назад

The extension on the one inch is what's killing the torque. I've seen it a bunch of times myself. Won't fit without an extension, grab the first one at hand and it won't budge, find a shorter one and it zips off in seconds. I dare you to grab the extension the next time. It'll be roasting hot, because all the power from the impact is going into twisting that extension back and forth.

@fonhollohan2908 Год назад

I did industrial sandblasting for several yrs its not that bad if you have the right equipment. Than latter on I became a welder fitter about about six seven yrs into my trade I meet Vince who works for you, when he first became a welder fitter.

@waitemc Год назад

As a trl mechanic. Screw that , skill saw between every cross then you sledge hammer the wood off then hammer snap off all fasteners. Install new aptdong wood. Reshoot screws and your dunn