I miss the anti-war quotes from the old one when you die. The one that stuck with me the most was from call of duty 4 "the cost of a single javelin missile, 75000 dollars". I remember when I first saw that as a teenager. Here I was shooting these thing's off like no tomorrow. Hell, in the mission leading up to "the bog" i had shot like seven of them in a matter of minutes. $75000 dollars a missile, it stuck with me, how many people had I killed with that money that could have been used to help people. I knew it was a video game sure but that simple message made me realize the expense of war not just in lives lost but in lost opportunity to do good.
oh, and don't even get me started on world at war. There were so many moments in that game that made me stop and question what I was doing. Made me question if I was the good guy or not. The two I remember the most is the part of the mission when you first land on pelalu and send in a rocket attack on the Japanese defenses, then you go over your cover... dozens of dead or dying men everywhere. I remember bayoneting the first few because game's always taught me to kill bad guy's but after the first few I coudent do it anymore. I just slowly walked through hearing them cry in pain wishing the game would let me help them. The next one was during the Russian attack on berlin. I shot a german point blank with a double barrel shot gun. just as i was about to turn away and keep fighting when I noticed what id done, what i had been doing. The german chest was torn open, his arm was missing and half his face was gone. That was the first time in a video game I'd ever felt like I'd actually done something truly wrong, something inhuman. I stood there and stared at the germans body for what felt like forever as my comrades shot and yelled around me. It was as though at that moment I realized what I had been doing the whole game. I had been killing people and enjoying it. How many people had i left mutilated like this german before me without noticing it. how many people had i killed in my blind enjoyment, I knew that this realization should have hit me sooner in the game but it toke this moment to finally make me realize how absent-mindedly id been playing the game and how little respect I had given to what I was doing. They were virtual lives to be certain but in that single moment, I felt like a monster.
MW4 really changed my view because of those quotes. Hell, the multiplayer was good fun, but the Singleplayer was a pure cinematic masterpiece where no one really won.
to quote Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation in one of his modern COD reviews, ''if the nuke moment from Modern Warfare 1 was done in the current games, your character would just stand up, fart out all the radiation and remove the shards of glass off his eyes while heroic patriotic dubstep music played in the background''
Cadrian I'm pretty sure you misquoted that, he says "take the shards of glass out of your eyes and shiv the ayatollah" instead of the dubstep stuff. Your one is nearly as good though hahah
ian arboleda yea that entire level is like so emotional bc you’re fighting to make sure you don’t die to your own people, but i wouldn’t rank it over the nuke scene from cod 4, that just brings back a lot more memories from me bc i used to ply that level over and over just for that
*"These teams of talented and creative individuals are spending thousands of hours and millions of dollars to make a $60 edition of Simon Says."* (17:28) -Perfectly summarized the franchise.
Yeah, I hate how realistic it is too! Man, in real war, you don't have someone shouting orders at you. I just want to run around a map with no clear mission or directive.
I think one point he kind of missed is that after Modern Warfare 2 COD became primarily a multiplayer shooter game where the campaign is just a bonus and not the main course. Many players didn't even touch campaign or if they did it was only after enjoying many hours of multiplayer already. Hence Black ops 4 not even having a campaign
I actually think that works, as now they could focus the multiplayer on COD:BLOPS while trying to make a better story experience in the main games. Plus, it looks as though it will have that balls to the walls feel of MW2
I like revisiting this video because it's the reason I even decided to play Call of Duty 2 in the first place. Now it's easily one of my favorite games in the series.
Overall I absolutely agree with your sentiments. Call of Duty was, as you said, about being one soldier among many, fighting to survive brutal, massive battles. Newer Call of Duty games have definitely gone away from this path, but I'd say it didnt really get too far off course until MW3 or Black Ops 2. While MW2 is easy to scapegoat for it's admittedly ridiculous story and abundance of setpeices, it remained true to CoD mostly through the US Army Ranger missions. You failed to mention that all the missions you pointed out that had restrictive cinematic gameplay were on the TF-141 side, designed to be more of an over-the-top action movie to contrast with the larger, more liberating battles on the Ranger side. There were also plenty of moments in other games that held on to CoD's formula, namely MW3's larger battles (especially in Germany). You also completely omitted a game where the cinematic level of storytelling greatly enhanced the campaign, Black Ops. It was a gripping story full of intrigue that had a similar balance of insane setpieces and "grunt in a big battle" moments while still delivering an interesting character-driven storyline the likes of which CoD had never seen before.
Modern Warfare 2's plot is not ridiculous, it is one of the best in the series. While the overabundance of Michael Bay scenes are true, it stayed with a consistent storyline and a great villain."5 years ago, I lost 30,000 men in a blink of an eye…"
What?! MW2 was badass, it felt more realistic at the time because of the foreign affairs that were and still are happening in American, Russian and Middle Eastern countries. I think BO2 was when it got off course. Once you go futuristic, its very difficult to go back.
Are you stupid? The game sledgehammer was making at the time of this video was AW2, that comment was completely true for two years after this video was published
@@thatrileyguy Because a katana wielding BRITISH officer, and a badass female *with a prosthetic arm* is ww2 by every definition and accuracy. Fuck off. Alternate history is not history.
When people say "Modern Warfare is bad", what I feel they actually mean is, "What Modern Warfare did to the gaming industry is bad." And it's not even Modern Warfare's fault. Infinity Ward made a good game, and then every game developer, including Infinity Ward, forgot WHY it was good.
I wouldn't even argue that it's specifically Modern Warfare. FFVII was a massive deconstruction of most previous JRPGs at the time before everyone started making dark RPGs with angsty protagonists. The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen inspired an entire age of perpetually scowly gun and katana-toting comic book "heroes" who set out to be cooler and more effective than those goody two-shoes that preceded them. For every one creator who actually understands the work that inspired them there's 9 others who just blindly copy all the superficial elements.
super koopa 64 Honestly my view was completely the opposite in some ways. The thing I liked about modern warfare and mw2's multiplayer was that everything felt overpowered. If everything is overpowered though, nothing is overpowered. The multiplayer in those games worked and it felt good because bullets actually killed and the guns felt powerful to use. In comparison, the design of the newer games was terrible as far multiplayer gameplay. Maps got more and more convoluted and the guns felt and sounded more and more weak or like there was no purpose for them to exist other than "this gun is different than that gun"
BO2 was the last good game for me Edit: I actually liked Advanced Warfare's multiplayer when it came out, back when exo suits were new. I really didn't mind the futuristic setting but like most cod players I got sick of the futuristic setting after BO3. I still have a lot of good memories of walking home from school, opening a big bag of popcorn, and binging AW. I also didn't think the exo zombies was that bad, granted it wasn't anything compared to maps like Shangri La, Nacht De Untoten, and Origins but it was still fun.
I finished the entire game in one sitting and don't remember what I played. Black Ops is good but BO2 is forgettable. Never played any new COD game after that.
Man I really hope they’ve finally realized where they went wrong, it’s not too late to fix it, the campaign is already said to make MW2 look like child’s play, and the few you tubers who have played it agree, it’s gut wrenching compared to MW2, I’m so excited for October 25th, the only thing that would destroy the game at this point and has me worried sick is the micro transactions, Activision is a bitch, BO4 made Activision 800 million in its first 3 months, there’s not question that there’s going to be micro transactions, only how it’s implemented
@@NightMythHunter I'm more worried they are going to have even more OMFG moments like how Raycevick described the Nuclear bomb scene in MW4 (and subsequently how MW2 had too much of those with little subtlety), because if they can't balance the style with substance it won't be truly engaging.
A Kelp Shake Cod waw : the Soviets grow more and more brutal and bloodthirsty as you progress through the campaign Cod ww2 : look an all happy group of clichéd soldiers
"War...has changed." - Solid Snake War changes constantly, it's literally measured in generations and they pass with exponential frequency as time passes. "War never changes" "Hold my beer" - Donald Trump, Space Force
@@PersonalMystery123 War changes multiple times between major wars and the public never bats an eye Hell there are people who still don't realize that the USA can disable enemy nuclear sites while ours launch all day. We have heat weapons, laser weapons, sound weapons, and that's just the 50 year old crap we're allowed to see.
One point that I think you missed that shows much the series change MW 1 was the lack of quotes upon death. Pretty every game before (or at least I remember) had a anti war message quote displayed for a few second before you respawn. It always stuck with me and help give that feeling that you really just die. Won't find that in the new ones at all.
MediaFREAKED yeah it was in MW2 and MW3. i think Ghosts as well, i can't really remember. i didn't play Ghosts much. they're in Infinite Warfare though
BlueRose50 they're still quotes. i also want to add that Infinite Warfare's quotes aren't really quotes. it's just little facts about what happened or more back story to Infinite Warfare's story and whatnot. just realised that playing through it again
i still love the MW2 campaign. It's mostly due to nostalgia, as I remember playing the first few levels of the game with my cousin. We didn't have good wifi so we just sat around playing "Team Player" over and over again. Looking at MW's campaign, it does feel more like a real event rather than a hollywood shooter on rails, compared to -the cliffhanger- some scenes of MW2. But I still really like the campaign, although if IW had stuck with the less action movie paced singleplayer similar to the previous game, I think the singleplayer would have been a better experience.
American levels like "exodus" and "wolverines" are my favorite levels in the game, because they aren't the usually micheal Bay explosion simulator, they resemble reality more
The problem is that it doesn’t fit with Cod 4. How did Price go from just being a Captain within the SAS to being the leader of the ultra, super, unstoppable team of badasses? We went from escaping an army of insurgents in the end to taking on an army of super secret elite soldiers in the end. It just doesn’t work. MW2 feels like a fan fiction that someone wrote, with over the top heroes, over the top villains, over the top scenarios, and over the top gameplay. MW2 in my opinion, is one of the most overrated games of all time. Captain Price went from someone we followed and respected in CoD 4 to someone who’s constantly being a badass. “Let’s give the finger to Command!” “Let’s go blow up D.C!” “Lets make a monologue about killing Shepherd like Captain America!”
The slow hollowing of Call of Duty can be gauged through their shifted commitment from a campaign-centric game to a multiplayer-centric game. In MW1 and WAW and to a lesser degree MW2, you had a crossing of these two where both were strong, now that shift has gone to multiplayer and don't get me started on zombies.
tteggad i dont think ive ever finished it for some reason. ive always re started it but never got to finishing. but for the most part, it was pretty good. The worst campaign was probably bo3
Totally agree. I was skeptical when BO2 was announced but was blown away by how well they did the whole futuristic aspect because it wasn't so far into the future that it was ridiculous like BO3 or 4
Koweden “got too fuckin clever” except everyone was crying about how repetitive cod was, and people were hyped for advanced warfare, and BO3 is the only cod post MW3 that has had an increase in sales, the game with jet packs and q to win abilities
"The airport sequence that freaked everyone out when it got leaked online shrieks of desperation from the developers to make something more skull-splitting than the nuke scene.But it's nothing more than shock value,it's got nothing to say outside of the narrative and inside the narrative it's just a plot device to have Russia invade America.A plot device that fails because it has more holes than any of the civilians you shot" 10/10
Man that scene made my jaw drop as I watched in disbelief at the dumbest plot device I had ever seen in a game OR movie! It made absolutely no sense lol! Anyone with an IQ above 70 should realize that if something like that happened Russia/US would do a joint investigation immediately, and would never go to war over something like this even if it WAS an attack from the US. Hell does anyone remember the Cuban missile crisis where the US and Russia refused to nuke each other even after Korea, the bay of pigs, and tons of posturing?! P.S. An aerial paratrooper invasion of the US? smh
Tom, I honestly think the Wolverines mission, from the paratroopers to the BTR to the setting in the suburbs, was just an excuse for a Red Dawn reference and nothing more.
David Laush And I have no problem with that at all. Some of the missions in MW2 if left alone were pretty cool. But they insisted on tying them together with a full plot line and intentionally controversial BS. That ruins everything, and imo proves they were just throwing darts at a board and hoping we didn't notice they didn't stick.
The original Call of Duty with the United Offensive expansion pack is irrefutably the best Call of Duty there ever was. I wish they did a remaster of that game.
I remember it. It's fun on Heroic. On Veteran you clearly hate yourself b/c there's not even a single health pack on that level. UO is even worse on Veteran.
I enjoyed them but id be lying if I said they were anything more than a generic action movie, which honestly is fine cod isnt about the campaign that isnt their goal although they seem to have tried with mw 2019
I write reviews, previews, and other articles for them. The Halo series is entirely my content, it was just posted on there to get more views than on my own channel. I thought it'd be better for them to get a few hundred views instead of a couple dozen. But it's far exceeded my expectations.
World at war had a really great campaign, voice acting was super intense and loud, the music made each gunfight so much better and the large scale missions with the red army going URAAA was just so fucking intense And the gore was fucking awesome
had so many chills down me when I got to put that soviet flag up on the reichstag on that last mission I didnt know till doing some research recently that the music playing when you put the flag down was the Soviet Unions national anthem Now thats paying attention to detail we need change call of duty needs a fresh start.
"These teams of talented and creative individuals are spending thousands of hours and millions of dollars to make a 60$ edition of Simon says. Call of duty hasn't been releasing the same game for the last ten years, what is has been selling is a shell of it's former self, a former self that used to be respected." Couldn't of worded it better myself..
@@I_am_a_cat_ BO4 is a peculiar case, zombies isn't terrible but I don't really care for the changes to the mechanics so I think it's meh, too early to tell as they haven't released any DLC, IX and Classified are good maps though. I think BO3 was better as it had the best and most maps. But unlike BO3, BO4 has 2 other modes that are worthwhile, so zombies has competition for best mode, making it less clear which is the best.
call of duty 4 was my absolute favorite!playing as the S.A.S totally changed the way i played the game. no longer running into a room and spraying everything in sight with one long unrelenting trigger pull i began taking short controlled bursts using every last bullet with godly precision. truly felt one with the mission. its been years since i last gamed and watching this video gave me so much nostalgia. literally itching to buy a console!
The original call of duties gave me a deep respect for WW2, a respect and interest I still very much hold to this day.(My first one was COD: Finest Hour) It made me get a somewhat feeling how of soldiers may have felt, fighting for your brothers beside you , fighting for the greater good, and answering your nation's Call of Duty. The average joe fighting with his band of brothers. Now however, the series has digressed into an action movie/ super soldier/ rambo/ Terminator/ Sci fi monster. Losing many of its founding values and the identity that gave the series its legs. I have no idea if COD is losing its popularity sales wise, with the recent release of Infinite Warfare, but at a personal level most everyone I know who loved and played COD, including myself, has stopped buying it with the last couple or so recent entries. The last time ALL my friends had the same COD was MW2. I believe it's time to go back and touch on what made COD what it was, because at this rate, the future tech and action movie like gameplay, leaving players dry. Washed out on un-innovative gameplay and story. BF1 received a reception that no battlefield before has received. And I believe thats due to it winding back to clock, rather than advance it. Change the mechanics, story and gameplay. Give the game a soul, and not the identity of just another entry in the series. (Although I am critical they still role with the whole Premium system and 4 DLC pack structure, but COD isnt very different in that case either.) I wanna go back to the days when my 10 year old self would feel chills everytime he started the game. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9RvmYHmyoj4.html
Wow. Very true same. Were we separated at birth or something? Because we had basically the exact same experience, right on down to Finest Hour being our first CoD. I even linked the same video in my own analysis of it. I have not played BF1 yet, but I have certainly been interested in it for a long, long time.
CoD and CoD:UO are some of my most played games of all time. I skipped until WaW when my roommates in college had that and played the rest from there. I was a fan of the Black Ops Campaign and the revolutionary points system to creating a class. I think that made for specialized multiplayer loadouts. As far as multiplayer goes though, I think the main problem has been with the ever shrinking map. The smallest map from CoD feels bigger than the biggest current maps. When a sniper had more than 30' in front of him to actually get some good shots off. Not only that but the faster movement and the super soldier mentality makes the maps feel even smaller. I think this is a big reason why the BF franchise has stayed fun. In BF4, my friends and I used to set up on other sides of the map and snipe each other at ranges of 1km+. You would never see this kind of range in modern CoD's. From a single payer standpoint, the earlier games had the feel of fighting your way through enemies and advancing on an objective whereas the CoD's became a James Bond kind of parody of warfare. I haven't played through the whole campaign for BF1 yet, but that first mission is intense. I thought i was doing it wrong when I died , and then the name and years popped up and soldiers were humanized again.
Broke my first controller playing MW2. It was so infuriating to play honestly. The multiplayer was actually still pretty great, but the story was so braindead that I never felt a reason to want to keep playing it.
God. The opening of MOH Allied Assault will forever live with me as one of the greatest moments in gaming. It was like playing the opening of saving private ryan.
"Call of Duty 2 isn't a power trip of an FPS. It's about being just another soldier on the battlefield. And in my opinion, it's the best game to achieve this since it's release." Play Red Orchestra 2 on a full server then. You're tone will shift faster than you can say "The Germans are over there". If you don't know where your enemies are in that game, you will die so fast it's unbelievable.
Raycevick Red Orchestra 2 does have singleplayer..but....it's let down by the AI. I've been killed very few times even on the hardest difficulty. But when it was...I bled out. Either than or was noscoped by a bot that was shooting at one of my teammates.
General Wise: RO2's singleplayer is a travesty with a horrible framerate and the decision to make it so that you play mix and match classes. What the single player should be is a tutorial on how to play the different roles against decent bots. Each battle should have been focused on a new role, totalling about maybe twelve-twenty four missions (forgot how many roles there were). The final mission should you practicing how to command your squad/team and thus ensuring there are less noobs who just want the submachine gun in the multiplayer.
My Goodness! Exactly what I was thinking. From his use of several of their terms, from explicitly saying "fully automatic sub-machine gun" at 3:15 to 1:30 where he "fully admit(s) to having a personal bias". At 4:50 he sights Wiki. Also at 4:34 "Re-dick-alus". I dont like the way he, sarcastically, says "Being the heroic American soldier you are" at 8:03 .
I likely will, as I heard it's actually solid. Hiring people from Naughty Dog tends to do that. Hopefully I'll be able to purchase it sometime this year.
It's crazy to think that 12 year old children were using xbox 360 controllers to drone strike each other in war video games, and now they're grown ups using xbox 360 controllers to bomb schools and the occasional enemy.
@@teabaggins771 If you don't like what buildings our forces have to destroy in order to win fights, go tell groups like ISIS to stop using hospitals and schools to shoot as us from. It would save us from having to rebuild them.
Robert Wilson III ever heard of hostage rescue operations? Its when you send actual soldiers into a building instead of drone striking it. “WhY wOuLd We WaStE oUr SoLdIeRs ThErE” if you’re fighting such a war that you don’t consider collateral damage at all, then you’ll count bodies in thousands and wont even notice when a battalion gets fucked storming math class on the fourth floor. Which of course you’re not, so shut up.
A lot of this is likely due to Activision interfering. In 2007 when COD4 was released Infinity Ward became Activision's premier focus and they likely began to take a much more micromanaging approach to the studio. In 2009 Activision ended up firing Infinity Ward founders after the founders said Activision was running a "police state" and stopped paying their royalties to the founders which is resulted in a lawsuit. I personally believe that even though MW2 came out before 2009 the series wasn't that far off and I think that Activision is likely the main culprit.
well thanks to that we got titanfall 2 which was such a pleasant surprise to me i couldn't believe it. it actually is probably in my top 5 (or at least top 10) fps campaigns of all time. it's really fucking great. it sucks the game did not get the success it deserved.
I couldn't get attached to the Campaign in T2, enjoyed the first one enough and loved the Multiplayer in both - obviously being what Infinity Ward do best. But yeah... Activision man, they've been the downfall of so many series and great companies, their latest target being Bungie.
They force their developers to puke out new games at a pace that forces them to compromise on gameplay and creativity, while simultaneously burning out the video gaming public on said games. COD is just one example. The did the same with Bungie and the Destiny series, Guitar Hero, and the Tony Hawk games.
I think the last GOOD campaign in the series was Black Ops 1, actually one of the better ones. The gritty alt history setting and subtle political commentary created a really interesting campaign if you focus on digesting all of the small details that made the narrative what it is.
BO2 was really good I think. BO3’s could have been good if it wasn’t in the series because it didn’t even connect to BO2. I have some bias as that was the best time of my life playing BO2.
"But for the game's message, that heroics don't result in success" Just finished playing Spec Ops: The Line yesterday, this phrase literally resumes all of that game.
Wait. Did an analysis of Modern Warfare and others which can be dubbed to be of Surgical Precision but why no mention of Black Ops? The Numbers, Mason!
The whole video is pretty lackluster. I can understand skipping MW3 and on, but he doesn't even mention CoD 1, 3, or Black Ops. It looks like he just cherry-picked the games that fit his thesis without observing the whole series.
Well COD1 is not much more than MOHAA with more friendly AI. Dunno about 3 since I never played it. BO1's story was all over the place, but gameplay-wise felt between MW1 and 2.
I don't really agree with his assessment of MW2. I LOVE Cod 4's gritty aesthetic, but MW2's insane action-movie campaign was an absolute blast. So many great missions and moments. It is for sure where the franchise began to decline. They have continually tried to recreate the Micheal Bay aspects of MW2 by amping up the explosions/set pieces, but none of it hits the way MW2 does.
mw2 is a great idea for a game but the problem is that its not cod or at least is not what cod was at the time. Cod was a game that wanted you to stay back, to survive. Mw2 was a game that wanted you to push in like a hero. The problem is that mw2 uses that same regnerative healing mechanic that cod used to keep players in cover. This means that mw2 wants you to both push in and stay back. This is a textbook example of ludonarrative dissonance and it stops the game from being either a phenomenal action game or a phenomenal war simulator. It is stuck in a zone where it can be a good game but not a great one. The downfall of cod really happened when they forgot that shooters were only fun when they required a little bit of skill. So on rails turret sections where there is no threat whatsoever and whatever it is you are doing is unimportant because the enemies are useless towards you arnt fun.
Mw2 was amazing. The campaign, the weapons, the graphics, etc. I'll never forgot all the SnD matches I played, and the discussions in the game chat. The only problems I had with the game was the noobtubers, one man army perk, and the danger close perk. So many playstyles. UMP45 and Dual Wielding Rangers, Riot Shield with a SPAS-12, Using cold blooded perk with silenced weapons, etc. The maps were amazing as well.
THANK YOU for bringing up the fact that battlefield was first to the modern scene in this "war" that the fanboys take part in. I'm so sick of idiots who claim that COD was first and I don't even play either anymore
Don't forget that there was the modern warfare mod for BF1942 called Desert Warfare, and was what actually ultimately inspired BF2. Heck, DICE even hired the guys who created that mod to work on BF2 with them, but when EA became DICE's publisher, they took that team of modders away from the DICE team to form another studio and pretty much destroyed them :/ So yeah, you have a bunch of blokes who created a mod for BF1942 to thank for CoD4
TheMCJarhead But.... no BF games are considered on of the greatest games ever. COD 4 is. While I do agree with you on it being inspired by '42, COD 4 has influenced FAR more games than any BF game.
I'd like to thank RU-vid for finally recommended this to me.. I'm getting old now and I'm from the days of the original Age of Empires, Rainbow Six, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, And Quake 3. Rainbow Six was probably my most played ( clan ladder), But CoD 2 was my favorite CoD by far. Modern Warfare was good too but CoD 2 would immerse you in war. I have tried all of the newer CoD's and i just can't do it, The pacing is terrible and it doesn't feel epic. Medal of honor, CoD 2 was so Epic I have never felt so hopeless against the onslaught but to somehow make it out alive to the next mission. they really gave you the feeling of war. As in the newer games i feel BF1 ( not 1942, which btw was awesome with desert combat mod) and BF V bring back a little bit of the same feeling in the campaign. My son is 17 now and he always ask me for the new CoD and i just can't buy it for him. I tell him to play the old ones for a real true experience. Of course thats not good enough cause his friends play the newest ones. I really don't know where we are headed with games anymore as all the best games have been watered down to yearly releases with basically the same everything with new skins. I feel like the last really good games were Raven Shield ( Rainbow Six 3), BF2 from major publishers due to just trying to make quick money on all the newer ones. I play Star Citizen because it actually has huge ambition that games in the past had and is no longer seen from developers.
love the comment man, sometime i feel like doing the same thing, play the game i play haha. these games coming out doesn't seem right and loosing so much values of identity and not sticking to the core. now its feel like, do whatever its flashy and trendy that make money. the problem is people are buying the game and supporting these type of game. so the company will continue to make these game until they see negative in their profit. this mean there is a big community that like those games. I feel were getting to old for the generation and are standards is not respected in today gaming.
SirWes Yeah. I get that you are nostalgic but just because you like the older games doesn’t mean a 17 year old will share the same opinion. He might even look back and see the newer games the same way you see the older ones
Man, the blood effects that cover the screen when you get hit in modern COD are so exaggerated compared to COD 2. It makes things hard to see, I don't understand how anyone thought it was a good idea.
+Brandon Ferguson They feel that way because of the name COD built and youtube, video games, social media etc. were exploding in popularity. But, their opinions aren't truth. The truth is what this guy said in his video; mw2 was the clear initial mark of laziness and bad design that call of duty would continue to show to this day.
My exact thoughts! I loved the CoD:MW, enjoyed the campaign to the last minute of it, and had a wonderful "after effect" later on. The "All Ghillied Up" level alone had a strong cinematic (almost movie-like) plot and setting. But when I started to play CoD:MW2 - I felt like the game's "quality bar" has been severely lowered, because instead of clever (yet, linear, ofc) decisions, the game had a "Oh, look, more enemies. Go on ... shoot them." vibe. But I completed the game nonetheless. And then I played CoD:MW3. The urge to ragequit was strong. It clearly was not the Modern Warfare game I played in the past. I finished it just to "close" the game series (MW one), while I wasn't enjoying the game itself. Not a single bit.
One thing I find hilarious is that when World at War came out, Japan was offended by being portrayed that way, but in the words of Ian 'Idubbbz' Carter "(We) don't portray you that way, you portray yourself that way".
You were right on the money with this. MW2 was the last CoD game for me, because I saw where the franchise was heading; I am surprised it took until BO4 to see it realized though.
I agree with a lot of this, but I absolutely cannot agree with your opinions on MW2 and how that was the start of the down fall. That was when the game improved on every level and grew the fanbase even more. Black Ops after that had the most thought provoking plot in the series. I think the downfall started for the series at MW3, with it being noticeably below MW2's quality. Call of Duty never set out to be a war simulator. It's a casual arcade shooter with story driven singleplayer and fast pace arena multiplayer.
What are you talking about? Cod has never nor should it ever be considered a war simulator. He was saying that the earlier games were a depiction of war. Their campaigns intentionally put you in the shoes of some Joe Shmoe, and not some badass action hero as a way of showing the more brutal side of war. While the writing was not always top notch, the campaigns were also fun/challenging while also being thought provoking. While MW2 wasn’t bad by any means, there was definitely a shift, not only in the campaign, but in the philosophy of the game as well. There was the already mentioned shift in the campaign, but what I really think started cod on its downward spiral was its shift from a focus in a balance between singleplayer and multiplayer to a focus on multiplayer. This definitely started with MW2
Agreed as far as the general quality of the game, but as far as what he's saying, he's right. I love MW2 beyond any game in the series and it houses my favorite campaign ever as well. But, it is a clear departure when it comes from style. Ray focused exponentially more on the campaigns of the games and practically ignored multiplayer, which has been the main selling point since CoD4. On that front and the overall tone shift of campaigns, he's right. But you're also right that on the multiplayer side of things, MW2 was leaps and bounds the best game of the series in terms of meaningful innovation and improvement. I would agree that MW3 felt like the first downward spiral. It seems like it set out to improve upon MW2's formula, but instead, ended up copying it and changing just a little bit but not in a good way. It removed a lot of the fun and sterilized the experience.
I'd agree with you. It can be said that MW3 is where things went south with the departure of many key developers leaving to start respawn entertainment. As far as I remember.
Hey Ray. I'd really recommend you give the Act Man a view on his takes of these different games. He puts in the effort to analyse these classic beloved titles in a very satisfying depth. It's good to give praise where it's deserved, and likewise for criticism too. But I agree, this franchise has been one I grew up with, loved to pieces, became disillusioned with, and wondered to myself what really went wrong. Nice vid!
MW2 is like the first transformers, dumb but still a lot of fun, but also created a shitty series to come in which each subsequent entry becomes worse and worse although black ops 1 was still really good
@@Katky1 tom clancy is more of a techno thriller modern warfare style. I actually started reading tom clancy books because of it gave nostalgic feelings like CoD4.
@@williamfrost8081 I think the newers Tom Clancy games are techno thriller games like CoD4, but the originals (before Rainbow Six Vegas) felt alot more like simulation games like what CoD2 was trying to be
"Quickscoping" and "Noscoping" and various cancerous memes were made really popular with Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer. No wonder its the most "dank" COD game, and its elements (like the M200 Intervention rifle) are used for endless MLG parodies.
They were a result of not being as fast-paced as many arena shooters so people had to come up with new ways to show skill. It's admirable but yes, they're kinda annoying.
Too be fair, there were plenty of good noscopers from COD4 who were just people who learned how to use rifles from earlier WWII games or just loved it in COD4 who were actually talented zzirGrizz comes to mind of course. But what happened at MW2 is that so many 12 year olds all of a sudden thought they could be a MLG quickscoper and with the help of extreme aim assist and an IQ much less then 70 they became the stereotypical COD sqeakers we know today. Plus the fact that everyone with half a brain started bailing to BFBC2 when MW2 started going to shit. That helped to concentrate the morons. The noobs were always there but there were a lot of normal players also so it was at least balanced out, when MW2 went downhill they were the only ones stupid enough to keep playing, so they are the ones people associated with Post MW2 COD.
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Yeah, I disagree with what Raycevick said about the story. Regardless of some of the odd gameplay choices, I still think it had a solid story. The Army Ranger missions were very good, and didn't feel like a 'one man army' shooter (aside from the infamous "Ramirez, do everything" moments). The Russian invasion in "Wolverines!" made you really think to yourself "shit just got real." There were several other moments just like that, especially when you have to fight through the war torn white house, then have to navigate through DC after the EMP strike, and obviously the ending of the"Loose Ends" mission.
What I liked about it was that the plot twist surrounded the main character as opposed to some random general nobody gave a crap about and then you start replaying all the levels in your head as you have a "holy shit" moment. Also, I'll never forget crouching through the trenches in Vietnam only to poke my head up and see hundreds if not thousands of North Vietnamese soldiers rushing at me. EEEEEEEPIC!!!
I loved the older cod games, the modern warfare series, and the first black ops...for the story. I played advanced warfare, bo2, and bo3 for the multiplayer. Although black ops 2 has a pretty cool Micheal bay style story. In the end video games are what you make of them. Loved the video bro!
Annoys me how vCoD (CoD 1, released 2003) gets so LITTLE credit. To this day, vcod, along with it's expansion pack United Offensive, was not only my childhood, but to this day one of the best WW2 shooters to ever be released. Story was excellent, missions varied, and the multiplayer was amazing. Im not seeing this through rose tinted glasses either, I regularly played call of duty online until around about 2011, after having played for 8 years.
Agreed. COD 1 came first and 2 and 3 were just attempts to improve it requiring less imagination and creativity. Indeed, they wouldn't even have been possible if not for the success and quality of the first game.
I agree with most of the video, very well done. However, I disagree with the dismissal of Modern Warfare 2's 'No Russian' level. I believe it was one of the franchise's finest ludo-narrative moments, perhaps even its last moment of ludo-narrative brilliance. I find it an excellent commentary on a matter that many people around the world in the early 21st century have grown to fear, acts of domestic terrorism. The first Modern Warfare did an excellent job of depicting the big elephant in the room for its time, the War on Terror, something most people around the world could relate to in one way or another. It's current, it's relevant, and it was captured in game design. But that was terrorism far overseas, Modern Warfare 2 depicted terrorism that was closer to home. What I mean is most people won't see the battlefields of Iraq, but there are a large number of people who visit airports several times a year. What I admired most about 'No Russian' is how its game design only told the player to 'Follow the "Bad Guys" lead', and that's it. It never forced anyone to shoot or kill anyone (until later when the police and security arrive, at which point the level then turns into a more traditional shooter level unfortunately). The pressure to fit in, to 'save the many by sacrificing the few', is not only on the character at the time, but on the player as well, which is well done. I see Modern Warfare as displaying how much war has changed and stayed the same since WWII. The lines are much more fuzzy between right and wrong in this modern age as compared to the more black-and-white (American/Russians/Good Guys vs Nazis/Japanese/Bad Guys) conflicts of the past, its was just the rules of war back then, it was much more clearly defined (though there is still the grey element inherent to war itself, such as the Russian soldiers burning the surrendering Nazis alive in World at War, something that most all prior Call of Duty games emphasized brilliantly). I see 'No Russian' as truly nailing in the point of just how grey modern conflict has become, the lines between right and wrong, or even who's side we're fighting for. That's how I read the scene, I didn't see it as a desperate attempt to one-up itself and just be shock value. I thought it was quite brave and a damning realization of the world we live in today. Besides that, I agree with much of this video, nice job mate!
CoD4 doesn't have a satisfying ending? What more do you want? The ending was arguably the best part of the story. Despite what seemed like a most certain, soon and inevitable demise, you still gave that bastard a solid FU and shot him. It was deeply satisfying.
Its so insane to see you’re Mr.Hands in Cyberpunk!! I remember watching this very vid way back in high school and im still hearing your voice in one of my fav games😎😎. Hope all is well!
Another thing I think a lot of people didn't know was that Activision fired the two original founders of Infinity Ward, the two guys who basically gave the series the heart and soul of the original games before MW2. I believe they were fired early on the development of MW2 due to activision wanting to make the games a yearly thing. They weren't too keen on that idea and didn't want to go through with it, so Activision decided to fire them and let the team finish the game without they're direction. Man, isn't capitalism just great?
