Chuck Norris but, at the same time its naive to say money isn't a problem,b/c thats all people care about these days. instead of making something worth watching they make 20+ garbage movies just for a quick buck look at all the twilight movies and transformers movies
Heero yuy they won't make them if there are no people to consume them, think about it. if we all stop watching those kinds of movies they won't make em.
Yeah, I loved watching Dangal and other movies in the Shanghai cinema, the theater was always full. There is usually one Indian blockbuster every time I look at the list of movies showing.
oh they just weren't they were put in front of a screen and kept distracted most of their lives with little guidance other than school which they could largely choose to ignore
Not exactly, film viewing is more catered for the middle class. Hence when the population were still mostly farmers, there's little value in making theatres.
Ex calibur exactly. However, population is a good indicator of how big the market can potentially get. If the population of China is only 4x the size of America, then the market isn't going to be 5x as big, given the disposable income of the average Chinese is hardly going to be greater than that of the average American. Now, consider the fact the US studio only gets 25% of the revenue in the profit sharing model, this pretty much means the Chinese market will never be as important as the domestic market to Hollywood.
TH India has its own movie industries. Bollywood, Tollywood, Kollywood, etc. Hollywood movies don't do as well here because these film industries garner the most response in India. China doesn't have a well developed movie industry so it's easy for Hollywood to make a profit.
Funny how so many Americans are fine with movies pandering to Americans, but set something in Beijing and suddenly it's the worst thing to happen to movies. The censorship is the aspect that's worrying, not that the entirety of the film industry isn't obsessed with what they consider "the most important country in the world".
theMoporter without the US the world economy would a lot worse because we import so much. So economically speaking we are and while China is catching up to us they are a ticking time bomb. So America is the greatest country in the world and probably will be for the rest of the 21st century
theMoporter China is a dictatorship that wants to ship out propaganda at home and abroad. The us is a democracy and their government doesn't work propaganda into movies. Also the us is still the most important country in the world. I'm not some nut job patriot, I'm not even American
Charlie Brandin Avehall Their government do work propaganda into movies, weren't you around in the cold war?? or all movies involving Iraq or Afghanistan War??
Gabriel A number of countries are now. But if the United States doesn't go green, it won't be able to compete or trade as profitably with the huge Chinese market, so Trump's stance on coal and renewables in general doesn't make economic sense.
No; more like if China looks good in the film, the government tells the Chinese to buy tickets. If a movie looks good, more Americans buy tickets. That's why no Chinese movies are featured in America
The sad thing is it can be sort of refreshing, with the consistency for Hollywood to reuse the same heroes and villains in its action movies. I mean at this point it would be interesting for me to see an English WW2 movie from a Chinese angle, or pretty much any country that is not the US, Britain, or France.
i know, they were the days everyone wants back, noone wants a hoenst potrayal of china, WE WANT LIES< EVIL CHINA LIES.. and LOSER WEAK CHINA LIES< POOR CHINA LIES.... we want to put matt damon as lead actor in a historical chinese movies and make it cheesy and flop.
On a somewhat related note, I guess it's nice to hear that China's middle class is growing? Good for you, China, doin' things in a way that makes there be less poor people.
While I'm all for the living standards of everyone improving, it's scary if that's made through bubbles of buildings made of sand. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V3XfpYxHKCo.html
DaaaahWhoosh Even if its small, progress is progress. As the middle class grows, more demand for entertainment means we might see more high quality Chinese entertainment exported in the next decade, which is good for everybody.
I've enjoyed vox videos in the past, but this one is misleading in so many ways by false or omitted information. Think about this: 1. In 99% of Hollywood blockbusters, a white male saves the day (just look at the list of movies by revenue in your video). Why is it not OK to have 1/3 of actors who are Chinese if it's co-production, and at least 1/3 of the audience will be Chinese? 2. Chinese movies don't have many white actors because they are not trying to pander to the American audience, but Hollywood blockbusters are, by choice. So if they choose to not make China look bad and include some Chinese actors, that's capitalism at play. 3. The Martian plot wasn't adapted to make China look good. ... I agree that the latest Transformers movie shouldn't have so many advertisements and need to have a better plot, but this video is not making fair arguments for less Chinese influence in Hollywood. I wouldn't want communist propaganda (China is not communist btw) in Hollywood either, but it's not what the Chinese regulations are doing. What's going on is Hollywood is trying to sell their movies to Chinese customers, and the Chinese regulations are trying to make them more appealing to the Chinese audience. If it has anything to do with promotion, it's more about promoting a fair share of representation of Asians/Chinese in the movies, rather than praising the Chinese gov't. Also why should blockbuster movies have to deal with political arguments/conflicts at all? Isn't having China as the enemy in Red Dawn for example so 20th century? Wouldn't it be great if Americans and Chinese see each other as friends and neighbors rather than enemies? Wouldn't it be great to see America and China helping each other rather than warring against each other? Not making China the villain is the least Hollywood can do to promote peace between the two countries instead of instilling hatred in the two peoples.
*In French movies, Middle Eastern women typically play "the second" of two hot girls.* Hollywood really needs to catch up on this regard as all they know are Middle Eastern men, while the women are still "unknown" to them!
The U.S middle class is already much larger than that. You might think that China's middle-class is growing fast, which it is, but it is only because it is catching up to the rest of the developed world from being poor shits to being able to actually live a decent life.
The average Chinese middle class makes as much as US's working class. But you have to take into account the cost of living, the cost of food, transportation, even entertainment which cost a fraction of what it is in the US. 20K USD is worth much more in china than in the US. But if you really want to live like a king, you can go to places like Indonesia and spend your US dollars there.
+kevrev0 right but 472 million is only about one third of china's population. the US's middle class is proportionally much larger. Rapid growth is easy when you start from the bottom.
Wanna know why Transformers movies do so well overseas? It's for the same reasons anime voice acting sounds so much better subbed than dubbed. Foreign audiences have no context for good acting or dialogue. It's all an exotic novelty to them, with cool special effects to boot. I would probably appreciate J-Pop a lot less if I was able to hear the same clichéd love song lyrics I hear in English on your typical "Top 40 FM" station.
So it's OK for the U.S. to ban Chinese companies from doing business and acquiring properties in the U.S. in the name of national security, but everybody loses their mind when China does the same? Both of the countries use their market as a leverage for negotiating a better trade deal.
Transformers is garbage, I'll give you that. But these Marvel Studio movies are actually far from mindless. You probably don't see it, or care, but the intricacies of each of these characters powers and even psychological motivations are thought out and adapted masterfully from comic books that have been around for a long time. Point is, people like these superhero movies because the characters and "super powers" are complex, especially when competing with one another. Time, astronomy, different dimensions, different planes of existence are really not mindless. Just look deeper.
+Rozco Don't talk about how they are "adapted masterfully from comic books". You obviously don't read the original comic books. Marvel Studios dumbs down their own movies and makes them kid friendly when the original comic books take themselves much more seriously.
DaRunningMan. I dont know Luke Cage is a pretty hardcore Marvel tv show. A guy punched Luke Cage and his wrist snapped and there was plenty of gore. But maybe only movies count cause otherwise you be wrong. Or maybe Luke Cage is the first Marvel production that takes it seriously.
but almost all 90s movies were terrible, they were just VFX showoffs with terrible plot. In the 21st century there are much less movies like this, like Transformers, San Andreas, 2012...
Japan also change hollywood,so many hollywood movie has Japanese culture "Suicide squad katana""x men psylocke""kubo and the two strings""the wolverine2""ghost in the shell""silence""the last samurai""memory of geisha""ronin47 ""transformer4 drift""Godzilla""resident evil"......
they didnt change hollywood. katana, psylocke, ghost in the shell Godzilla etc are all original japanese or american creations, created by the original creators, they weren't changed to get revenue later on. lets say Superman's new girlfriend is Chinese in the new justice league movie, thats how china is changing hollywood..
in the 80s and early 90s Japan has a heavy influence on American cinema. In fact just about every sci-fi space film glorified Japan's technological advancements... you this is blade runner and many other movies like it (80s "total recall" rings a bell)
kung fu being in star wars is ridiculous? you know this is the same universe with a big hairy screaming chewbecca, weird aliens, lightsabers, yoda and much more weird stuff, but whats most ridiculous to you is kung fu? pleasssseee.
honestly no, I think we will, but it'll be considered risky by the film producers IF they want to try and reach the Chinese market. Like the video said, China is not the ONLY market. If film producers stick their ground with their original ideas (it be china being the villain in a movie) then they will do so. The problem isn't China itself, I mean how many movies portraying America as the bad guy have been made, let alone shown in America? The problem is money hungry producers wanting to reach bigger markets, and China has every right to say no to movies which attack their personal values.
It is rarely that people get to watch US as villain . US is terrorizing the world. Soviet Union or China is saving the world. Censorship dont exist in US???LOL
Rr Nlg Censorship from other countries.... things making fun of Trump is what makes people believe that freedom of speech is limitless in the US but ... just because the media likes to go all out doesn't mean that the government isn't censoring content from other countries. This includes content which is potentially very controversial in America. A lot of foreign sites are censored, for example, videos on youtube too (although yes, 80% of the time it is because of copyright laws). American television and cinema DOES censor certain forms of obscenity and defamation, both from the US and from foreign countries. Which is ONE of the reasons that not a lot of foreign films are shown in the US.
Burned Alive yeah , Age Of Extinction was a step in the right direction for the Transformers film franchise but it's still pretty terrible , sure it's entertaining but it's terrible.
@@kazrulgayming They added or altered the original scipt to boost sales. In a way, the story that portrayed will be different. Not that i against 'chinese', just hollywood in general. I prefer indie or korean movies nowadays.
3:14 _The Martian_ was published in 2011 and written for space nerds who can read English. It wasn't written as a movie. To date, there are only 3 countries that have the capability of human spaceflight: USA, Russia and China, with the latter having their own space station. To write China into the plot was because they have the capability, not for some contrived pandering to Chinese audiences.
TheMarkSasuke64 I think you're only thinking about one specific film lol. I watched that one too, that was set in a time when imperialism ran rampant and the British were trying to take over China. So it was more a historical thing than anything. Like portraying Germans as nazis or Russians as evil communists in films set in those respective eras.
Ip Man 2, and 3. Almost every Jackie Chan movie from the 80's and 90's like Legend of Drunken Master, Wheels on Meals, Dragons Forever. That's just off the top of my head. They're centered on the action mostly, but it's always the same plot of a foreigner trying to steal Chinese culture. I understand why they're made, but it's a cliche at this point =\
Wow. That’s fascinating. I knew there was something going on with having all those Chinese references in films recently. I just wasn’t sure why it was.
Sinosphere describes China's influence on the smaller countries around them, at one time this would be a significant power, but today in the present who do you think influences China...
aaronleev I'm saying there's a common Asian culture across east Asia which is rooted in China. like the Japanese ramen, kanji, Confucianism in Korea, sino dominance in Vietnam. things like that. we have a common culture.
X D Stop China has a lot in common with other East Asian countries, but even Japan and Korea is quite different from China. What about Southeast Asia? We're nowhere near similar to China (except for Vietnam which is a bit more similar). What about central Asians? That similar culture is much less than you think, and it's not a good reason to continuously use China as Asian representation.
I've also been seeing a lot of animated movies working with Chinese publishers. I would think that, being animated, the issue of filming scenes in China could be avoided.
China allows 34 U.S films to show in its theater. the U.S allows like 1 chinese film per decade. There are a lot of great international films we miss out on due to these Hollywood restrictions. I can only watch Jason Statham once a year. all his moves are copied from.chinese martial arts films anyway.
Because they're Americans, so the Chinese regulations don't apply. Most Chinese people don't care about Asians in American films, if they want that they can watch Chinese movies.
And the reason we don't star more Asian-Americans in Hollywood films is because of the ironic fact that Asian cultures have generally become accustomed to and consumed by western beauty standards. They want to see white people in movies.
lol a lot of people call every next president elected to office the anti-Christ, yea we criticize ourselves.... And you made a wonderful comparison but your outcome is wrong, very wrong, in the movie 300 the Americans would be the Persians. In the last few wars America has participated in, America has been the guy with 1,000,000 men, not the underdog 300. The Spartans used tactics that multiplied their strength, the same as guerrilla tactics in the modern age used by rebel groups and "terrorist". Also the Persians wanted everyone to do it their way. Remember they attacked Greece, to put it under their rule, not the other way around. Which draws the same similarities to modern and cold war America, spreading Democracy. Need i remind you Greece wasn't all made up of "Democratic" city states, Sparta seemed to be ruled by a king, ergo "KING Leonidas". Nothing in that movie connects Sparta to the US, by plenty of things connect Persian to the US. So if you think about it the movie 300 is an anti American movie, using the back drop of the 2nd Greco-Persian War. Just because the story is told from the Spartans point of view doesn't mean they are Americans. And just because the are White doesn't doesn't mean their are Americans. That right there is just childish thinking. USE a different movie.
Martin Illuminertix ehhh china may claim its communist but it's really not. If you've ever been there, it's basically America with a lot less white people
What China is saying now. 2016: We can't speak English 2021: English is ours and Korea and Vietnam are ours. Corona's not Chinese. ??? But we all know that Corona's the only Chinese.
Hopefully the writers and directors will find ways to keep the coherence of the storytelling when they're doing these things to please the Chinese government/market. There are some things you shouldn't compromise. I would say both Looper and 2012 did a pretty decent job. The Chinese being there wasn't illogical and in-your-face-marketing. Transformers? Not so subtle.
Daniel Perez When film first began, it was more of a rich mans hobby than an industry, but I do believe at one point, major cities like London and Paris were major centres of cinematic innovation, and I believe New York had a film society as well. Once Hollywood became the hub however, all of these other hubs lost their influence, with the majority of film-making moving to Hollywood - effectively outsourcing it from Europe and the East Coast.
Yeah if you want to grab that 350 Million dollar China Market You will have to Pay them with Jobs .Trump's America will have 1 Trillion dollar economy not the 16 trillion dollar which is currently now .
I still remember vividly the year 1996 when they allowed Titanic to be aired, people were stunned for the grand filming technics and they cried when they saw the tragedy of the sinkage of the ship and wept for the genuine love between jack and rose, BTW, that was the first time my peers and I knew Leo Decaprio, moreover, "my heart will go on" was everywhere on the streets for the next 5 years or so, additionally, the movie's script became the scripture for english learning, and still was when i made my way to university in 2003.
The Martian is not as much pandering to Chinese audience as that it's from the actual source material that's the original book the movie was from , which obviously states that the booster that was supposed to help them send a very expensive satellite up to space has either that or a Mission-Scraping-but-a-grateful-American-Goverment-agency-and-World-At-Large joint rescue mission in exchange for a seat in the ARES program (NOTE : the US congress has an enforcing "resolution" baring the US Govt's NASA from ever cooperate with the the Chinese Space Program and it's related agencies)
as a chinese , i think its no need to please chinese market, the consequence is that the quality and content of films will be affected . and i hope no racist to chinese ,we cant decide everything as Ordinary people in china .we are not ccp and cant change the Film censorship（sorry ，my English not that good)
The 34 film limit is why you keep seeing so many beat for beat remakes. It isn't that "Hollywood has run out of ideas". It is more likely that, Hollywood wants to take a movie like Star Wars but update it with new effects and actors that audiences in China will recognize or watch. Instead of trying to get the old, 1974 version of Star Wars into Chinese theaters, Hollywood churns out a new movie that not only will attract Americans both young and old who already grew up with the original movies and their prequels but with Chinese movie goers who have never seen the original Star Wars.
This is very interesting & informative in relation to the movie industry. Now, can anyone throw some light on to the gaming (of course I'm referring to computer gaming and not gambling!!!)industry. I appreciate that China has It's own massive games industry, but do the same rules that apply to foreign made movies also apply to the video games? Then also, what about music?. PS. About the gambling, is it allowed in China? I understand that horse racing is (or was) very popular in Hong Kong. Just saying.
gambling is only allowed in Macau, a special district of china. Hong Kong is also a special district. Gambling is not allowed in mainland china although there're tons of underground gambling sites. The same rule does apply to gaming industry. When Netease introduced Diablo 3 to china I think they have to reskin the skeletons and erase blood spills to pass the censorship. The majority of china's gaming industry focused on MMORPGs, console games only had a very small market
One of the perfect example so far in this is Doctor Strange! Shooting randomly in China/Shanghai And casting an chinese actor who is VERY useless in the film don't get me wrong i love that character but he is obviously for Chinese people.
More cinemas than the US? More movie sales? So what? It wouldn't be a surprised simply because they have a lot more people.. So if they have a huge economy, it wouldn't also be a surprised because of their HUGE population..
I guess it's a good change. Don't forget that ghost in the shell, the main lead supposed to be an Asian. But NO suddenly the main lead isn't what it's supposed to be. There are tons of movies where Hollywood prefer westerners actors than Asian actors
Android Kenobi No, *AMC Networks*, the production studio for _The Walking Dead_ television series and majority-owned and controlled by the Dolan family, is not to be confused with *AMC Theatres*, an American movie theater chain owned and operated by AMC Entertainment Inc., which is itself owned by AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., a majority-owned subsidiary of Chinese conglomerate Dalian Wanda Group.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Networks
