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Yes, that's what really jumped out at me, she just focused on how it's affecting her. I don't think it was an apology at all. She was just "venting"...
@@janiceandthomas lol she's an idiot. Her legal team told her to not put out a statement. So she decided singing isn't a statement when it ABSOLUTELY was. And because her legal team wasn't aware, she could've opened herself to litigation since there's proof she was acting more like "pedo aunt" than "weird aunt"
i think the fact that people are mistakenly calling that video an apology shines an even more direct light on the fact that she didn't apologize lol. the expectation is that you'd apologize.
Yeah, it’s not an appology because, in order for it to be one, you have to, ya know, ACTUALLY APPOLOGIZE. Miss Toxic Gossip Train didn’t appologize for SHIT
In fairness, it's par for the course for a RU-vidr apology video to, 9 times out of 10, just refer to it as "addressing the rumours" and then cherry picking what details to actually highlight to control the narrative. So when people call it an "apology video", they mean it with tongue firmly planted in cheek.
Watching Colleen interact with those kids onstage makes me think about how The Wiggles, aka the BIGGEST children's entertainers of my childhood, absolute icons of kids' music, always do fingerguns with both hands at the camera every time they take a picture with children, and in any clips of their show that features kids, they're always standing far enough apart that you can clearly see none of the Wiggles are making physical contact with the kids. They've talked about how they did that so there would be absolutely zero doubt that no boundaries were crossed and the kids were 100% safe. I agree with that commenter; Colleen were a guy, NO ONE would've been okay with her behavior onstage.
Absolutely - it drives me insane how some people still try to excuse female predators and deny the real suffering of male survivors. Her behavior is so nasty and cruel and inappropriate - she’s been overlooked for far too long because she doesn’t fit the “pedo” model.
Seeing how she gets massive backlash right now I don't know how helpful the argument of "but just imagine if she were a man" is. People like Shane Dawson and Onision also got away with absolutely disgusting behaviour towards minors for a long time.
I honestly (well, after seeing some vids on Trisha's response) give a little respect to her since she's shown some growth/maturity since everything that happened with her. She's been seeking the help she needs and funny enough how Trisha's taken accountability more than Colleen probably ever will in her lifetime. Not sure if it's saying much, but gotta give her credit where it's due
The fact that Trisha Paytas was able to handle the situation more maturely and give a more sincere apology to the kids who were exposed to her nsfw content by Colleen than Collen herself speaks volumes
What she did to Trisha was absolutely disgusting. Sharing someone's nudes is awful let alone sharing them to mock and make fun of them. And then when you add in sharing those nude photos with CHILDREN to mock and make fun of them? Jesus Christ. That's absolutely disgusting.
The funny thing is - Tana is aware of this situation because her fans have made fun of Colleen for having cancelled merch when Tanas been on that boat for a while now. Shane was too. Not supporting them or that but like girl get a grip really? Merch that says cancelled 😂 why is she literally leaning into it. That’s fucking weiiiiiiird like she literally grooms people and thinks it’s all a joke somehow
@@kierathompson1561I believe she doesn’t think she did wrong. So, all the hate is funny because it’s easier to laugh than take accountability. This has to be weaponized incompetence. People pretend to know nothing just because it’s easier
@@KealohaHarrisonLMAOO omg I forgot about that one. I really love these embarrassing apology not apologies tho. It’s so amazing in ways that the people making them never intended. It’s such a shit show and I love it.
Agreed. I just finished editing most of this video and included it at the end of the video. I couldn’t believe after letting her fans down she basically said “you guys need to apologize to me because I’m hurt by this toxic gossip train”
I don't know why people keep calling it an apology at all. She explicitly said she wasn't apologizing and there's nowhere that it is labeled as an apology. It's just her response. Her disgusting, gaslighting, manipulative response playing the victim.
She should have been cancelled the minute she told the story of getting her family dog put down after abusing it. I can’t get past that. She’s one sick girl for sure
@@everythingponyWell, to be more specific, Colleen was aggressive as a child and randomly grabbed the dog tightly. The dog bit her and, trying to seem innocent, she claimed that the dog just bit her, so they had the dog put down. It breaks my heart even having to type all that bc I could never
The apology was honestly so iconic. “Toxic Gossip Train” is going to be the “I’ve made a severe and continuous lapse in judgement” for a new generation.
I mean, at least "Ive made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement" actually sounds like the start of an apology and an admission of guilt. "Oh-em-gee you guys are so MEAN! *plays a royalty-free ukulele song while sing about how molesting kids is cool and how mean gossip is.*" Is just shameless and disgusting
It been stuck in my head to the point where I had to tell my coworkers about the whole thing just to explain the song I kept singing. For context I work in the bees, and my coworkers are two previously incarcerated men in their 40s who internet experience stops at Facebook.
Disclaimer: I censored all children's faces in this video unless the person is now an adult who openly posted about their experiences. I censored a lot of content because seeing some of this can be really upsetting for some people and I want my video to inform more than upset. Please be respectful of these former fans' experiences with Colleen in the comment section, as I know so many of you have always done with victims and will always do. I appreciate all of your support and love.
thank you for being mindful when you cover stories like this. I appreciate your content and find it informative and can tell you care about your craft vs putting up a video just for clicks. You are one of my favorite creators and I wish I support you in other areas but for now I can continue to subscribe, like and comment until I can support you on patreon
This is not to defend Colleen (who I was barely aware of before all this) but simply to correct misconceptions of what it means to be a “NYT Bestseller”. Having worked in book retail for years, I’ve learned that the numbers for that ranking are pretty easily rigged by publishers. They’re based, not on sales of copies to consumers, but on sales to retailers. Consequently, a publisher determined to market a book as a “NYT Bestseller” sells huge quantities to Barnes and Noble and Amazon, most of which wind up sitting unsold. They’re later returned to the publisher as unsold stock, which then earns the retailer credit with which to order other items. Those copies are then sold at pennies on the dollar to remaindered book dealers, who sell them at a massive profit as bargain books. This doesn’t mean that “bestsellers” can’t be popular or sell well, but that the title “NYT Bestseller” doesn’t really mean anything tangible in terms of actual copies sold to paying customers.
“I’m so stupid why did I give her everything. Why was I doing this for her” Anyone who hears this and doesn’t see the glaring issue is part of the problem. My god. Even though he’s speaking out and standing up for himself he’s still being so heartbreakingly self-injuring. That’s what happens when you abuse people as children. Take notes and don’t ever fucking stand for it. Thank you for your bravery Adam, please know I don’t say this lightly. I hope your story helps keep others away from what you experienced.
It broke my heart that he was still blaming himself. He has a long way in his healing journey and I hope he gets into the place where he stops mentally abusing himself :(
@cdass001 I read this before getting that far in the video and was horrified. Now after hearing him say that, I hope he gets therapy for what he went through.
When he was asking himself why did he give her everything, I had to pause and say "Dude, I promise it wasn't your fault AT ALL!! SHE was the adult in the situation. SHE knew what she was doing not you. You were just a kid." I hope someone sits down with him one day and explains that to him. He did look so disappointed in himself, that was hard to watch. 😢
being a predator is not a "mistake". grooming children for YEARS is not a mistake. She knows what she's doing and she knows that she's cashing on children being hurt. There's no apologizing for being a predator. She is disgusting
Absolutely cassadeemay the episode that she’s crying. In the show, Miranda sings I think it’s after she’s thrown out of a performance or some thing of the guy she had a crush on. She is so arrogant, but she apologizes to the guy who has a crush on her and she oh god this is going to make me gag and she tries to make it a bubble out of mucus for him to pop, since he doesn’t have bubblegum and it’s making me throw up just talking about it🤮🤮
@@_blank-_ someone being a drag queen has nothing to do with grooming. If someone grooms children then they are a groomer. Who they are besides that has no connection to it. Take your ignorant thoughts and get educated. Real people were affected by this.
Even as a young child I found Miranda's content extremely sexual and off putting. She has never tried to hide who she is, I am so thankful that people have been brave enough to come forward about her actions.
All Adam wanted was for her to simply apologize and actually take accountability. The fact she couldn't muster the energy to say it ONCE in her "apology" video is baffling on so many levels.
If thats all he wanted i feel like he wouldnt of posted so many videos for attention and started a witch hunt. His whole yt is basically a gossip channel.
@@brandienicolle9738he posted them to draw attention to the fact that he was groomed by her, and he did state all he wanted was for her to apologize and take accountability, and if she did he would never talk about it again, also it's not a “witch-hunt” Coleen is rightfully being called out for being a child groomer
@@brandienicolle9738🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 you know the reason he continued making videos about this because someone else brought it back up recently right?? He hadn’t made content about this since last time he addressed it… you know, you can dislike someone and STILL feel bad for them and recognize something happened to them right???
@@thierryeubanks3586 and it is a witch hunt because she did a sincere apology 3 years ago, but now people are at it again. She could of cried and apologised and it wouldnt have been enough. They want blood.
Not everyone. I was on Adams side since he came out roughly 4 years ago, and I was calling people out for the double standard IE if the victim was a female and the predator a male everyone would have his head on a stick both online and IRL It baffles me that Adam says she sent him things she definitely shouldn't be sending a child, and then she admitted it, then downplayed it, and somehow, nobody bats an eye?
Wow. I just got done watching an interview with Johnny… Colleen fashioned her “tantrums” as Miranda after her brother who is autistic. She’s deplorable.
I’m autistic and I make content about my experience. I was going to say, something about her character is giving neurodivergent and it’s not funny. The “meltdowns” and “outbursts” are not a joke for peoples amusement and takes away from the real struggles and experiences people with disabilities face
She passes off all the abuse and sexual behavior as “jokes” and “part of the act.” I dated an abusive guy who did the same thing. He would abuse me emotionally and physically, but would pass it off as funny, lighthearted, not a big deal. It’s a very effective way of getting away with abuse, because you can blame your victims for “taking things too seriously.” That is 100% her tactic.
She isn't arrested yet because there's still many who don't even know about everything she's done. We have to spread this video online so more people can know about it please help me do that
Time stamp? I haven’t seen anything incriminating yet and would prefer not to watch an almost 2 hour video looking for it, especially since I’ve watched 15 minutes of it already and haven’t found anything of substance yet
I grew up with youtubers being super sexual like this, so I thought it was normal and it reflected in my behavior as a child. I was super hypersexual growing up. I said things as problematic as the youtubers who are getting canceled now.
oh i have a feeling her platform is over, because I'd imagine this is the tip of the iceberg. people defending her will eventually fall away because more people will most likely come out with other things she's done because this woman is a predator. through and through. whats your favorite position?! also adam said she talked to him about her and her exs sex life. This is chomo stuff right here.
Maybe a fact may be wrong hoping wrong, its also said she models miranda after a disabled relative, if its true, another one to the long list of crimes and problematic behaviour
@@espeon871 My brother is a level 2 Autistic, and Miranda Sings is exactly what I'd expect someone to act as if they were acting as my brother in an offensive parody way. Colleen makes me sick for this (on top of everything else, ofc). How could you look at a disabled loved one and think, "Ah, I want to make an offensive character out of you and your disability!"
there's a difference between creating content and preying on children. You can have a live show without laying hands on a child and humiliating them on stage and sexualizing them in front of thousands of people. You can create content and interact with fans online without grooming children in private messages. She is disgusting.
It is a crazy feeling seeing all the popular youtubers and some of my favorite ones getting canceled right now for behaviors I thought were the norm when I was little. When I was little I mirrored them and was super hypersexual from it. Now that I'm 23 I know better and I'm just so weirded out that now I can see what I was exposed to and how that impacted me. Things that you thought were the norm suddenly are shown to be red flags when you become an adult and then you have to reflect on the fact that your world view of the people you looked up to was highly skewed. RU-vidrs I loved are now people I find problematic since my brain is more developed and I can see how as an adult I would never act this way with kids ever. So how can they? Rhetorical question.
I can't believe she had a REOCCURING segment where she said that CHILDREN were "porn" and "tempting" ????? What the fuck???? How was that just brushed off as fine?? How do you DO that as an adult?? Sickening.
This is a vivid example that women can be predators too. Thinking of pedophiles we usualy envision men trying to have sexual intercourse with minors. Colleen is innapropriate with kids and no charges are put against her, she was not cancelled yet. Imagine a guy doing the same things to kids as she did. DISGUSTING.
When you look at the % men are more predators at an alarming rate women are very less but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen so everyone should be careful
As an anti fan of Trisha Paytas I’m very happy for you. We will never get this kind of payoff. She’s not famous enough and was never thought of as a good person.
Too many people still associate the term “groomer” with someone whose end-goal is s3x, so they struggle or refuse to label this issue as being as problematic as it is. That’s completely ignoring an entire spectrum of abuse & manipulation that minors are susceptible to.
@@WellISaidIt Okay, that's great and all but then don't bother or harass someone in the comments section about information already given in the video you refuse to watch for moral reasons.
@@magicalmomo9987 I can do what I want thank you very much. You on the other hand are quite free to ignore my comment and carry on with your life if you have an issue with my question. My comment wasn't even addressed to you. You chose to come along and stick your oar in. So if you have an issue take it out and walk on by. Entitled much. If taking offence on other peoples behalf a professional jobfor you or do you do it more as a hobby?
Tbh I’m tired of hearing people say “ how did we miss this?!? “ When my daughter asked to watch her netflix show I looked up her online content and was disgusted so we did not watch after the first episode. People who are upset that they missed this literally did not do the bare minimum.
I'm in my 30s and had totally missed her on RU-vid and had never heard of Colleen or Miranda but I watched a few minutes of her show on Netflix cause I was curious what it was about and was like "wtf is this????" Turned it off and forgot about her until all this stuff about her started blowing up 😬😬😬 yikes
I think a lot of parents arent that way sadly, a lot of parents aren’t as involved when it comes to their kids. They legit trust creators to basically raise their kids, sorry if that’s too harsh, but as an outsider looking at the parents I know or have seen, that’s what I think. Lots of people have kids but don’t consider all the things they have to do for them including looking out for them online.
I think it's probably the children who watched her that are disappointed they didn't realize she was shady sooner. When I was younger I watched a lot of Shane Dawsons content, looking back I always wonder how I didn't realize how shitty he was. It should be on the parents to protect their kids from these awful people, but fans can still feel bad because they didn't realize. When you look up to someone it can be easy to excuse their actions, especially when younger
When I was a kid, I didn’t say “thank you, I know” when someone said I was beautiful. She thinks all people are like her, but we’re not. All that statement of hers does is show that she already possessed rude, narcissistic traits as a child.
My mom says that I did once when I was little. I don't remember that, but I remember getting a lot of compliments as a child. Course, I have trouble with accepting compliments now 😅
She is a mother! Like, that's so crazy how even having a kid wasn't enough to change her, make her check herself and see things from the kids perspective. How hard can it be think "what if this was my kid?" But considering her response video, I don't think she sees anything other than herself
She is a mother. You don't need to be one to understand what is & is not age appropriate. Just like you don't need to be a father of daughters to be a male feminist. Becoming a parent shouldn't be ethically revelatory to people - they should have that all sorted before starting a family...
GOD, that “apology” was HIDEOUS. She literally minimized and dismissed all of her victims’ claims and revealed her true colors to the world. Miranda was the true person all along, Colleen was just the mask. God it makes me sick.
Her apology video being like “millions of people are humiliating me waaaah” like she didn’t do that to a literal minor. On stage. Yeah. That’s disgustingly selfish.
Honestly the most shocking part of all this is the fact that this woman has seriously been so culturally relevant when I literally just thought she was like a one hit viral video wonder. I had absolutely no idea how much influence she had in the cultural/media/online sphere thanks to the children who thought her vagina jokes were funny???? Insane. Mind boggling.
Same af I heard about her once in middle school and thought "Oh its like a parody of bad singers on American idol but she's not very funny" and that was it Today I find out she was on TV and had several videos doing the same shit. She tours???? How the fuck 😂😂😂
As a almost 30 year old woman if I had a 13 year old fan who said they wanted my lingerie I’d say “I’m sorry that’s inappropriate I can send you merch though”
He never even asked for it though. She clearly says in the video, "wait should we send him the lingerie" "Adam do you want the lingerie" "write us if you want it." And she knows it's inappropriate because she goes on to joke about how it would look if his parents opened it.
@@hahna77 he did ask for it, she shows proof in her video from 3 years ago. he asked for it TWICE, the second time was after she didnt send it, and he reminded her.
@@brandienicolle9738 it doesn't matter whether he asked for them or not, he was a child and she was an adult, it should have never crossed her mind to do that, ever. If a five year old says they want a butcher's knife, should you say, "sure, here you go kiddo." ? No, you say that's not appropriate and I am not doing it. You should also never offer in the first place.
Im just gonna say, this is the best video ive seen about this situation. You manage to encapsulate everything from the creepy messages, grooming allegations (beacuse yes emotionally manipulating child without intend of romantic relationship is still grooming), disgusting content using children and also new stuff that wasn't really discussed befefore, like the charity fraud suspicions, that you've shown in a very profecional way (making sure that we know they arent confirmed and that they are just allegation based on some evidence, not enough to be 100% convinced). Ive seen many ytbers look into this case and either dont have all the allegations (only talking about Adam's videos) or straight up make them seem less bad than they really are. Youve come here showed facts and called the disgusting behavior, we stan.
@@justintyler5041 I can't tell if you mean we'd cancel her as in "we'd be overreacting" or you mean we'd cancel her because you think she might also have a gross history of predatory behavior
I used to be a fairly popular fanfic writer in a fandom, in part because I included femslash and included more realistic discussions of female sexuality in my stories. I had a lesbian fan of my work who was underage come to me for advice on some things (usually stuff like social pressure, friends, general writing, and literature because she also wanted to be a writer). One day, she asked me for tips on writing smut and femme smut. I had to explain to her that while I was happy to give her general writing or even romantic writing advice, I did not feel comfortable giving her advice on writing mature scenes due to her age. (Yes, I marked and tagged all of my fics responsibly.) She was perfectly accepting of that and understood where I was coming from. I was 25 at the time (32 now) and did not even have a fraction of the online presence Colleen Ballinger does. If I knew better then, Colleen has no excuse. The underwear thing is especially horrifying to me.
@@carcosacommune dang that is awful, sorry you experienced that. do you mind me asking what website that was on? because i write on the Archive Of Our Own and there is no way to direct message people there. You can also block users if they are making nasty or inappropriate comments on your fanfics.
exactly, she's acting like those kids just jumped all over her when SHE is the one who made herself a platform and chose to engage with children in inappropriate ways. she's just like Shane Dawson and I think both of them should be put in psychiatric institutions for their illnesses.
I'm a university English instructor and teach creative writing. Many of my students are freshman and 18-20 years old. And I've included safety and ethics in my courses now. Technically my students are all adults but when it comes to intimacy, I what so badly for everyone to be safe. They are still teens. And I know what the future has for them. These days, I have students who still ask for advice long after theyve left my class. I'm one of the few women who they run into during their writing careers. And I'm only reaching creative writing 101 during their first year in college.
It is truly amazing how these people will make quite literally millions of dollars off of these kids and then wipe their hands and say “not my responsibility”
Like the movie industry. The MPAA ratings do not mean anything to parents anymore these days. I'm sure a lot of parents who let their kids watch whatever they want even if it's rated 18 or older are claiming of all things they're offended by this. Or they let their kids play video games that are rated for adults. There's a lot of double standards in the world.
it's extremely unsettling how the adults filming some of these videos are literally laughing so hard, the people who's supposed to be the one trying to make the kids feel safe. Colleen's adult viewers are definitely something that we should also mention imo bc she's literally encouraging them.
Her response confirmed everything for me. Manipulative people always act like it's your negative reaction to their actions that is the problem, not what they did.
Yes, "When I told you to go 'die in a ditch', so you replied to 'go to hell', it really hurt my feelings that you'd be so cruel to me. What? That 'go die in a ditch' thing? I didn't *mean* it in a negative way, it's *your* fault for being so sensitive. Therefore your reaction was completely inappropriate & I insist you make it up to me. After all, we both know how unhappy I can make your life if you don't make amends for *your* misinterpretation of my completely innocent & with-no-hint-of-malice comment. Wait. What?! No! That wasn't a *threat!* My god, are you being obtuse on purpose? Now you've gone & offended me again! I just don't know how badly you could possibly hurt me anymore. It's a good thing a terrible person such as yourself has someone as wonderful as me in their life, right? Right?!"
@@primrosett Well that, and the comment section for that video is very aggressively moderated. A positive comment with 33k thumbs up and 0 replies.. Not at all sus.
I just think it’s absolutely absurd, that Colleen being the oldest person in this situation is acting the MOST childish….🤡 And, that at the time of most of these events literal children were more mature then her…..and STILL ARE!!
People like Colleen would rather take 30 steps off a cliff then give someone an inch with a simple apology because in the end even if she lost all of her platforms tomorrow, if she saved her money correctly she’d probably be set for life
“As a mother, this hits very hard. I will always defend and protect children.” THIS 👏🏾 I’ve been a subscriber for a few months now, and I am so thankful I stumbled across your videos. Thank you for getting me through my long overnight shifts, I love and appreciate how much work you put into these videos ❤️ - a full time college student with a full time job
Hope your studies are going well! I‘m also a full time student with a full time job and these videos have helped get me through a lot of study sessions haha
@@laurenk.6880 Aww thank you dear!! I have been doing good I have days here and there that are more tiring than others but we are seeing it through 🫡 I hope that you have been balancing as well as allowing time for some rest and replenishing ❤️
I remember being in middle school and so many girls dressed up as her for Halloween and I googled her and being so creeped out. I couldn’t understand why someone would enjoy watching her
Girl same. I feel so weird for not understanding the 'hype' Like I really tried to watch a good amount of her videos as Miranda and I did feel creeped out too
Same! Honestly on top of not being funny, the whole Miranda Sings character felt extremely cruel to me. The explanation in this video just validated that. She was profiting off of bullying girls that she thought were “less than her”. Which honestly says more about her character than theirs.
Hearing Adam, Johnny, Becky, just repeatedly say there were warning signs and they were too naive to see them...while thats TRUE, its subtle "victim blaming themselves" language and just to see the disgust and guilt they must've put on themselves is one of the most heartbreaking things. Every time someone else speaks, my stomach drops. She interacted with so many people, and knowing her own friends or family contributed and encouraged her... people should be feeling the same way about this as any cult they hear about because thats close to what this was, Colleen using her influence and power to manipulate and "frog in boiling water" CHILDREN to sexual content. The fact that there are ADULTS still defending her Thank you for covering this in such detail and so seriously, no drama, no "oh, RU-vid" type comments like I'm seeing other people make. this isnt about the platform it happened on, except that it likely factored in to just how many children Colleen was able to abuse for so long
Predators ALWAYS have a cabal of enablers around them. It's not just one awful person. The environment they are in and the people around them are also suspect.
i know, i feel the same way, whenever adam calls himself stupid i just want to give him a hug because it reminds me of how i used to call myself stupid when i was also abvsed at a young age and "didnt see the signs". i truly hope they can heal from this and can know deep within their hearts that her actions were not their fault.
Yes it’s terrible . I want to work with young children when I’m younger I think I’m America it’s called preschool but in uk it’s nursery I know it isn’t the same but hearing of abuse and sexual abuse makes me feel sick to my stomach and you also can tell when someone is underage by how they talk or chat . Normally they use language that’s a dead giveaway . But either way I don’t even feel comfortable talking about mature ish topics like what she did to people I know and are the same age as so how she felt comfortable doing it to literally underage victims baffles me . I feel so bad for the victims cause they think they are at fault when they are so not as they are a victim . I swear I’ve heard people commenting on other videos too saying that these people asked her to send it to them and even if that is the case still not ok as as the grown adult you should know better and what you should be doing and shouldn’t . Like giving them life advice for instance is probably ok but doing what she didn’t is not and it angers me and upsets me how she got away with it for so long and hey people thought oh yes it’s the city’s fault not the groomer but the victim like wtf . Sorry about the rant but it annoys me how people blame the victim for these things and not the grown adult .
Feeling like this is a good time to say that “grooming” doesn’t necessarily have to lead to sex. I don’t think Colleen was setting out to take advantage of these minors sexually. I think she was using these explicit conversations and too-close friendships to build a relationship with kids and make them feel grown-up-which is what grooming is-in order to get something out of them, in this case free labor & emotional support. Just because it’s not a man having sex with a girl the day she turns 18 doesn’t mean it isn’t grooming and doesn’t make it any less gross.
Agreed. Sex may not have been the goal, but it was clearly manipulative and inappropriate behaviour toward literal children for her own personal gain. Personally I find Adam uncomfortably undereducated (I'm not familiar with the others), but that just compounds the problem. The attempted defence of 'he was mature for his age' doesn't hold water, it's just another self-report of her own mental development.
And it's also worth noting that no matter what her intentions were - she still made children more vulnerable to abuse. She normalized behaviours like talking about sexual topic with random strangers. It opens children to bring further groomed by other adults
Colleen is a classic case of projecting her own insecurities onto others and make them feel small so that she can feel big. And she found her perfect audience with kids. And her apology video was passive aggressive AF. It was like she was offended that she even had to make that video.
@@dreamboatannie1019she doesn't just come across she's full-blown narcissist they are absolute monsters they like kids too because they can control kids
The most disturbing part of this story; for almost ten years her team, the parents, producers of these shows, interviwers, publishers, booking agents, anyone behind the scenes didnt come forward or stand up and say something isn't right. They just let it contunue. Money talks.
There's so many "content creators" grooming kids online, countless real world instances of children being sexualised and groomed in schools, strip clubs and other venues. And so many parents, teachers, law makers, etc defending it all, actively participating and promoting it. We live in a fucked up world for sure.
What makes me the most angry is her assertion that “I never said Miranda was appropriate for kids.” Which is fine, it may have been originally meant for an older demo, but she was WELL AWARE that her followers were young children… Yet she never changed her jokes.
Her videos were made to teach children not to see that predatory behavior as creepy and predatory and instead viewing it as something silly and something fun that they do together and that's insanely dangerous and predatory
@@sydneymomma11 only slightly disagree. Gotta hand off the beer to pick up the Ukelele, because I refuse to believe anyone sober could come up with the idea of doing... whatever she did, sure as hell wasnt an apolagy video
The very fact that colleen's fans have made Adam feel concerned enough for him, his family and his animals to call the police shows how toxic her, her family and fans all are.
Doxxing online is too easy. There is a study show that there is an increase in this behavior online due to anonymity. I forget what it was called but I read it years ago. This is not new information, though. People show different personalities online that they wouldn't show in person. Because of the anonymity, they can get away with terrible behavior.
It’s almost impressive how much that apology video did to destroy the remaining shreds of her career - she goes on about people spreading false information to make her look bad yet it’s her apology video that introduced her to most of the internet! I don’t understand what response she thought she was going to get?
@@nomadichomebody4230And considering she doesn’t have the common sense God gave my housecat I’m sure she’ll burn through it faster than Meghan Markle. She’s permanently unemployable so she better be smarter than she appears when the civil lawsuits start rolling in. 😉
I dunno, I still think Illuminaughtii's was worse. At least Colleen didn't read someone's self-crit note or accuse anyone of being a PDF file in her "apology".
Honestly, the thing with the dog biting her (because she dug her nails into it) and the parents putting the dog down without telling them why the dog bit her, is, by itself enough to convince me she has sociopathic / psychopathic tendencies. Imagine allowing your parents to kill your pet knowing full well that you injured the animal and the poor thing reacted naturally, then keeping that to yourself while the dog is euthanized?
The way she humiliated that girl on stage seems to indicate sadism. The fact that she smirked in a way that stuck with the girl shows Colleen was deriding pleasure from dehumanizing and humiliating her publicly.
Situations like these prove how insidious female predators truly are, and how we need to deal with them just as seriously as male offenders. We also need to understand that she has groomed her underage audience and some of the children defending her (no excuse for the adults, though) are potentially victims of this predator too. Excellent video as always Madison!
I’m not a parent, but I can only imagine how furious I’d be if a grown stranger on the internet sent my kid underwear. Like just putting myself in those shoes I’d be livid/disturbed
Colleen was also in contact with Shane Dawson when she spread false info that her ex husband was domestic abuser. And Shane being Shane was sharing the message.
This is the perfect example of the cliché saying "when someone shows you who they are, believe them". This is exactly who she is there's no coming back from this
The dead cat and the dog story really gets to me. The lack of sympathy for another living creature in such a psychotic way just really makes my stomach turn. She’s talking about it so casually is just so… horrible. I hope she gets what she deserves.
The other thing that kills me is she lied about what happened. She was all "I have no idea why the dog bit me!" When she said she, for no reason, sunk her nails into it, and it reacted because of the pain. My heart broke when I heard that story
Ugh the dog bite story just riles me up so much 🤬 I got attacked by a dog as a kid, my family was dog sitting and I was in my bedroom between the dog and our cat - I got bit because I was trying to protect our cat from this dog He was a large Rottweiler and bit me on the side of my face - I still have scars behind my ear 20 years later Unfortunately I was the 3rd kid that this dog bit and he was subsequently put down When I tell you that I was devastated by this, I can’t even explain to y’all how incredibly guilty I felt, I felt like it was my fault that this dog had to be killed because I chose to get in his way. Now that I’m an adult I can understand that this dog should never have been in our house knowing that he had attacked kids before and that he was aggressive towards cats , but the guilt has never left me
People love to infantize dangerous breeds like dobermans, Rottweilers, and Pitbulls of all kinds, way too often, and gaslight you, especially after you survived a mulling that has live severe injuries for the rest of the survivors life.
Im so sorry that happened to you, my landladys two dogs attacked my elderly cat a few months ago and Im still traumatized by it- and Im a whole ass adult. (my cat is ok, by the way, thank god)
I’m so sorry. My cat got killed yesterday as he is senile and got run over and the person who did it feels so guilty even though they weren’t at fault. We all make mistakes ❤
And honestly, that's what's so sick about the whole thing. It's NORMAL and NATURAL to feel guilty if an animal is hurt or dies because of something *YOU* did, even if what you did was TOTALLY innocent or a complete ACCIDENT! NO normal person wants to see an animal harmed! Normal people feel SICK, SAD and HURT if something bad happens to an animal, EVEN IF THE ANIMAL HURT THEM. Thats because we realize the power imbalance - where we, as humans, understand and ultimately have control over animals, like pets. Normal people feel SAD and awful if an animal was hit by a car and killed- normal people feel HORRIFIED if a healthy animal has to be put down because the animal acted aggressively - even if it was unprovoked, most people recognize that ultimately, aggressive animals were let down or hurt by PEOPLE, which caused them to act that way. So it's NORMAL to feel horrible- even though you did absolutely nothing wrong that caused that dog to bite you. The dog still ultimately died because humans let it down- humans didn't treat the dog properly.. Humans didn't TRAIN and socialize the dog properly. HUMANS didn't project the dog from being around children or other pets- knowing the dog had behavioral issues. Being someone who LOVED a dog, and cared for a dog, who was SUPPOSED to be euthanized because of it's aggressive behavior; but was ultimately SAVED because my family put forth a MASSIVE amount of effort to PROTECT the dog from ANYONE that she could hurt, and protected the entire world from the dog- we had DOUBLE AND TRIPLE protective measures to keep the dog from getting out where she could hurt someone! We had TWO clips rated to 1200 lbs attached to the dogs collar AT ALL TIMES when she was outdoors on a run- to be sure she could NEVER ever get loose and hurt someone. We had AMPLE signs ALL OVER our home and property warning people to stay away from the dog. We called and notified all the companies that sent meter readers to pur home. We scheduled vet appointments when the office was CLOSED, we muzzled her and sedated her, and transported her with TWO LEASHES to be sure she could NEVER EVER hurt anyone. And we did all that because the poor dog was DEEPLY HURT by neglect and mistreatment and horrific circumstances beyond her control- and so we went OVER THE TOP to be sure she had a safe, happy life - and to be sure that the entire world was protected from her. And EVEN IN ALL OF THAT... Very early on- we made a single mistake. We had a child at our house, and although the child knew not to touch or go near the rescue dog... She didn't realize WHERE the dog was, and when she encountered an Akita in my room after opening the wrong door - she mistakingly thought the dog was my OTHER friendly dog, and she was bitten on the hand. I was also bitten, trying to get her free from the dog's mouth. Ultimately- her father took her to the ER - and we apologized profusely and took FULL RESPONSIBILITY. And ultimately- the parents agreed that it was not the dog's fault, and that it was just a horrible mistake, and THEY decided that we were going to take even STRONGER steps to keep the dog and everyone else safe- and that it wasn't necessary to put the dog down, since the dog had never bitten anyone else - and would never be able to do so again. When i asked the father why he was being so gracious - he was clear that his daughter is VERY sensitive and loves animals so deeply- and that as upset as she was about having been bitten - she was SO CONCERNED that the dog would be killed because she hadn't double checked to be sure the dog was the "good dog" that was safe to pet - and he said that if the dog was put down, he was SURE that his daughter would feel guilty and responsible for the dogs death and he didn't want that. The fact that this HEINOUS BITCH - would talk SO CALLOUSLY about a dog being killed because SHE AGGRESSIVELY attacked and HURT THE DOG - and then "innocently" claimed the dog "just attacked her" - fuck that. That's serial killer behavior. That's disgusting and awful and if she feels NO GUILT over having that dog murdered because SHE ABUSED THE DOG- then that's VERY CLEAR TO ME how horrible this disgusting woman is. Taking video of a DEAD CAT and LAUGHING ABOUT IT would have absolutely TRAYMATIZED me as a child if I saw that online. I can't believe she thought that was funny, I can't believe she POSTED that to CHILDREN. Super disgusting.
I believed Adam from the start. He had receipts! Even if he did, as her fans claim, ask for the lingerie, it’s up to the adult to make the right decisions. Of course kids will want something “adult.” It doesn’t matter. Adults are supposed to be the responsible parties to make sure kids are safe. I will never forget when Adam used the analogy about if something like this happened to her son asking how she would feel regarding the responsibility and the age gap. She went total strawman saying to “not involve” her son in any of this with a lot of exclamation points. She either missed the point or pretended to thinking she was all high and mighty protecting her kid. Never been a fan as her content is not for anyone like me :/ At the same time, I do not think she is a true pedo. I just think she’s extremely immature and manipulative.
No one has said that she is a pedo, she is a groomer though This is the definition from the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them. It then goes on to give definitions for lots of different types of grooming.
Yep.. and I'll always believe she was asking her underage male gay fans for sexually explicit pics and information for Kory.... I think he was getting them sent to him the moment they were sent to Colleen... also, Colleen brother is just the same and was talking to underage girls in extremely vile, ILLEGAL, ways...asking an underage girl to drive across state lines to come stay with you and "have fun" is literal trafficking. So ppl saying he wasn't doing anything wrong are ridiculous. No grown ass man has any business asking little girls to sneak across the country to come see him.
There is no evidence she physically abused anyone, but she did 100% groom children and share p*rn with children. It seems to me that she gets enjoyment out of sharing inappropriate things with kids. That’s just gross.
I think her family needs therapy , or how normalized and okay she thinks those blurred lines are with other people's kids on stage or online at points in her life.
yeah, theres a reason you cannot even walk into stores that sell underwear like that until you're 18 (in America at least i can't speak for any other countries)
I personally never liked her, something always felt off the way she acted. It felt like she was making fun of people with mental disabilities. I’m glad all of this is coming to light how predatory she is. I really hope all of the children she’s hurt are able to heal
Always felt like something was off with her! I can’t believe all this is coming out, it feels like I’ve been right all along but thats not a good thing. This is insane
She based her character Miranda after her disabled brother, who is hearing impaired. It's notable in the way Miranda speaks and how her speech patterns mimics that of the hearing impaired. Her brother, coincidentally, has also been exposed to messaging underage children on social media. In an effort to "make friends and spread positivy". Bc he couldn't seem to do that with adults within any other community?? The whole family is sketchy and gross
@@bubblywaters663 her whole family is sketchy for sure! The comment about the creepy aunt didn’t sit right with me either. I don’t have a creepy aunt but she probably is one to her nieces and nephews
It’s kind of ironic that Coleen says she hates how millions of people are saying such terrible things about her. But she simply lets people say the same things to Adam when he came out with his story and had her fans do the same to others. It’s disgusting
I left a comment YEARS ago about her behavior on her channel to be told I'm sensitive blah blah blah. The fact that it took this long for her to be called out is honestly shameful af.
It's over for her now. It should've been over in 2020 when Adam first spoke out but sometimes karma needs more time to get to people. I've been following this story since it resurfaced and it is heinous. Colleen Ballinger is a Grooming Predator that needs to be nuked off the internet and thrown in a jail cell. Her enablers and likeminded loved ones need to go too. And don't get me started on her apology. The ukulele is now forever tainted.
Also sad that her audience is mostly kids and anyone against her has gtfoed already, so her supporters are left to comfort and cheer her on while being to young to understand what an asswipe she is.
Colleen saying that people are “losing the context” about her sending underwear to a MINOR baffles me because no amount of context will EVER make that statement any better
And it’s funnier (funny as in “oh my god you thought this was a good thing to say?”) to know that the “missing context” is Colleen KNOWING ADAM WAS A MINOR when she sent it Do they think the “missing context” is Adam somehow being in the wrong? Colleen was an adult, IS an adult, she should have KNOWN BETTER
The "missing context" is that he apparently asked for it. Great. Even if it's true it's a great example for grooming works. You make kids more interested in sex before they can even comprehend what it is
Right?! What pisses me off is that she literally BLAMED ADAM for "asking for the underwear" in the first place. Even if that was true, which it wasn't, he was a THIRTEEN-YEAR OLD child and she was in her in 30s. In the end, it was her that sent it. Also, fuck James Charles, for further pushing the narrative to his millions of followers by calling Adam (a kid literally speaking up about getting groomed) a "clout-chaser." But I guess predators defend predators 🙄
Really enjoyed the video, though I do have one small issue. As someone who was groomed as a young teenager, I don’t agree with the idea that adults should never interact with minors in any sense. I think it’s actually important for minors to have healthy interactions with older people online, so that they can better understand when something is wrong about how they are being treated. What helped me most in understanding that what was happening to me was wrong only came when I ended up in a forum talking with someone in their early twenties who had been through what I had and telling me that it was really crossing boundaries, and seeing how well they respected my boundaries as opposed to my abusers. As an adult now for several years, I have tried to be that person for others, in that space as well as queer and mental health spaces. It’s important to see that things can get better, to be able to get advice from older people who lived through these things and can help them see that they too can get through this. I feel the more we isolate minors from adults, the easier it becomes for bad actors to slip by unnoticed, as kids feel special and important and rebellious when they speak with said bad actors, having no reference for what is and isn’t appropriate for an adult to ask of them. I do believe there should be minor-only and adult-only spaces, but I also think it’s possible to interact in a healthy way in public spaces with adult role models.
I agree, but unfortunatelly it's very, very hard to verify whether an online relationship is healthy or not, especially when you're a child with little experience. It's just too easy to write inappropriate stuff down as "oh, I guess it's normal for this part of the internet" or as "inside jokes", especially when things are just slightly off/weird and not very creepy. Plus you may not actually talk about one circle of online friends to another, so it's even harder for the adults trying to help to catch the disturbing things. If you're lucky and you reach a breaking point before anything truly exploitative happens, you might look for advice (unless you're so ashamed of how stupid and blind you were that you never talk about it to anyone), but it's still so, so easy for horrible things to happen. I think it's better to have offline adult-to-minor relationships, preferably in a social environment like gaming clubs, fan events, etc. where people can check each other and it's harder to get one-on-one time with a kid without anyone else knowing.
She's an inappropriate adult and pre-teens love that unfortunately. I think her motivation was purely financial though as was that of all these entertainers who associated with her. She captured a demographic that is quite slippery. I agree with her about 20% that the children's parents should've paid more attention. Her book was terrible. The parents should know what their children are reading especially if they have to buy it.
The thing happened with Shane. Pedophilia is often a result of generational trauma. I hope nothing directly bad happened to her but it looks like her family was 100% with child abuse
I think this might be THE most genuinely heated I've seen Madison in one of these videos. Like, I could FEEL her disgust as she went through these events. And for good reason too, the stuff that was discussed in this video was just... I have no words.
As a teacher and a mom I feel so disgusted by this I feel like so many adults were fooled into thinking she was child safe when in fact it was the opposite. Thinking of all the children in my family back then who could've been exposed to this level of covert sexual content infuriates me. My daughter is only 2 and I'm learning so many lessons about keeping her away from RU-vid and screens in general. This is a nightmare.
@@KhyahlonnieItz.zaybbyexcept her show “Haters Back Off” was literally on Netflix Kids… so i’m not sure what you mean. as someone who went to her show as a minor, the entire audience was children. she’s not an idiot, and she’s not oblivious to the fact that children made up the large majority of her audience. she can say she made it clear her content was “PG-13” all she wants but that doesn’t make it true. if it was, why wouldn’t she set an age-restriction for her shows? why did she willingly let children come onstage? it’s a whole bunch of bs. weaponized incompetence isn’t going to save her this time. she knew who was bringing in the money and she knew her private group chats consisted of underage fans. if you’re going to be so bold as to try and defend Colleen, at least come up with a better excuse. the whole “she never SAID her content was for kids” means absolutely nothing when her actions directly contradict that.
@@KhyahlonnieItz.zaybbycontent is for kids nobody else watches her. And why are you saying that she also just talks to children and group chats and grooms then
I just find it poignant that even over a decade ago she was already referring to herself as a “Psycho” and making tons of p*do jokes, we all should’ve seen the signs this is who she’s always been 😭
While this is true, the reality is that back then her type of humor was seen as "edgy" rather than problematic, there were so many influencers getting away with being creepy because society saw it as jokes, plus most of her fans were children/teens. I was a fan of her since I was 14, we didn't know better and honestly COULDN'T know better when literally every other adult creating content on the platform was doing the same as her...
@@nahicoruayup! She probably targeted kids for that exact reason too, cuz they were too naive and impressionable to call out her creepy behavior. Shane did the exact same thing.
It made me uncomfortable back then when I was a teen but I can understand younger kids not noticing the inappropriateness of her content. The adults who went with their kids to the shows have no excuse tho.
@nahicorua Just want to clarify I am not blaming or shaming anyone! I also watched her videos as a kid/tween and while I was never a dedicated fan or anything, I did not register at all how creepy her behavior was and thought she seemed cool and like a genuinely good person :-/
@@danameyy Oh no! You didn't come off as shaming at all! I was just pointing out the way we used to think back in the early 2010s wasn't exactly the most morally correct. But that's part of growing too. Society evolves alongside all of us.
Madison sounds like a really disappointed mother, I feel like I did something wrong 😅 ALSO, why would Colleen be confused as to why Adam’s parents were with him? Like, a teenager with their parents isn’t an unusual thing, yes? Unless, she wanted to discuss things she didn’t want his parents to know about. Otherwise, she shouldn’t have anything to worry about, right???
One of the words for Colleen is “insidious.” She slipped through a lot of cracks and parental controls to achieve her obviously intentional goals of grooming and worse. Her and her whole sick crew. I hope it’s finally time for her to meet justice.
It’s actually heartbreaking to see her bombard 16 year old Adam with messages guilt tripping him. Can you imagine the panic he must have felt. And then to completely cut off their relationship and bash him to so many people behind his back and completely throwing him under the bus. When she approved it and she gave a child her huge social media account to run … so freaking evil
Heard somewhere one of the reasons she did the “apology” as a song is because it’s easier to copyright music on youtube - one way for her to remove unwanted opinions about herself and also profit from it. Nice. It’s exactly how you do an apology 👌👌👌
And because her main audience is children, she could easily disguise her disgusting actions as rumors and haters trying to ruin her reputation so that some of her fans stay. She wrote that song so that children could easily digest it and think everyone else was in the wrong.
Those both certainly make sense. I’ve dealt with some ridiculous copyright stuff so I always filter my clips to be fairly copyright proof (fingers crossed) but that’s really sad if that was her intentions… because that just seems kinda malicious..
