How Did Each Primarch React to the Edict/Council of Nikaea? | Warhammer 40k Lore 

If only Magnus had kept his juicy red balls trimmed with the Lawnmower 4.0, this all could have been avoided Source : Trust me Bro 20% off and free shipping storewide here : manscaped.com/majorkill

As Magnus is red, that means he goes 3 times faster in spellcasting and mana regenerating to the Orks when they encounter him.

Once again the Khan is proven to be the best Primarch. This is how things should have happened: Magnus: I can’t believe dad banned psykers. Khan: Bro this is just a big song and dance to shut Leman and Morty up. Just do some minor shit and wait for this to blow over. You think dad, the most powerful psyker would actually ban psykers. Magnus: You’re right. Thanks Jag. Khan: Happy to help little brother.

The more we learn about the Primarchs, the more based Jagathai becomes

Big E: "I am not God and Magic is bad!" Also Big E: *acts totally not a God and practices Magic*

Honestly moments like these feel like a reminder of the humanity of Emps. It's like a boomer father banning all electronic devices and the son getting access anyways, only to get catfished by some pedo, and now feeling unable to ask dad for help

Big E should have decreed that Magnus and his Legion should come with him to Terra where they will be part of His Imperial Webway Project and kept a closer eye on them.

My imagining of how the Alpha Legion actually reacted to the council was to shuffle their Librarians of into one of the many covert units of the Legion. Then they kept right on using them.

It’s crazy how the emperor didn’t seem to value the Khan compared to his brothers despite the fact his personality and critical thinking is something the emperor wanted humanity to adopt. Really hope he’s the next primarch to come back

The khans safeguard approach is like the parents that tell their kids how contraceptives work because they know how they're reaching "that age" and want them to be safe as well as how to be safe when drinking and how drug addiction works.

The council “psyker are now band!” Jaghatai Kahn “I’ll ignore that”

Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl

The khan actually left the council before it ended. He did not learn of the decision until after the heresy had begun. He left his chief librarian to fill in for him. In the books it is thought that it the khan had been there the outcome would have been different as he was one of the three big pro psycher primarchs

Could you do a video on how many STCs the imperium has? Would be sorta interesting

I’ll admit that I am a big thousand sons fan and really like Magnus, but man has majorkill really been pushing me to start loving the khan more and more. The dude is just on a whole other level of smart, badass and all around a critical thinker. If I ever actually decide to build an army, I really don’t know who I want to start with. Yeah white sucks to paint with but it would be a fun challenge.

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

This is the best example how to create enemies out of the best assets you have

Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion

No, the council was not to punish Magnus for breaking the webway. He had not done that yet. 6:25.

I would love to see how a Nikaean Heresy would play out. Definitely Sanguinius, Khan, Magnus, Lion vs Guilliman, Dorn, Mortarian, and Russ to start.

The Khan is super based as always.

Jaghatai is a certified Chad, no further questions.

The biggest mistake the Emperor ever made. If this Big E had the foresight he had he would have not let it happen so he'd have Magnus for the Golden Throne during the Heresy. A big asset for Big E to complete his Webway.

How about a video on the specialisms of each legion - Raven Guard (stealth), Death Guard (attrition), Imperial Fists (defence), Iron Warriors (siege), etc. I struggle with most of them.

the council of ikea: psykers now come in hundreds of tiny pieces you have to assemble yourself.

12:51 I don’t think the outcome of the council of Namibia means it’s necessarily weak writing by the authors. Instead, I see it as another example of the folly of humanity as a whole. You could look at the council of Nokia as a meta-analysis of the human psyche and how the group, as a whole, often hurts itself in an attempt to please the loudest voice in the room, which often comes from the fewest in the room as well. 13 primarchs supported the use of psykers, with 3 of them creating the librarius for psykers to hone their skills and increase their efficiency in psychic warfare. While only 5 others did not support psykers with 2 of them actively taking measures to oppress psyker activity because of their personal opinions and grudges towards one specific person getting in the way of what’s good for the group as a whole. All of this is happening while the Emperor, who was too distracted with his own ambitions to take the time needed to understand the drama happening between his sons, just wanted to take the swiftest course of action so he could go back to focusing on his own project. To me, this is a great example of what happens all the time in real life. A few, or sometimes VERY select few, people have a largely selfish motivation for taking action against something they don’t like in support of changing things to how they THINK things should be. You can see this directly with Russ’s hypocrisy that comes out during the trial while still using psykers in his legion, and it comes up again when he talks about how wrong he was to have supported banning psykers. Morty on the other hand, is completely selfish through and through and he cared so little about the consequences of banning psykers. This is because his selfish motivations and personal hatred of psykers go against the betterment of the imperium. I’m sure Typhus was greatly upset by morty’s decision to ban psykers in his legion, which only amplified his love for Nurgle’s gifts. With all that noise and activity getting stirred up by those few voices, the people with the power to make those changes, I.e. the Emperor, are not as deeply concerned about the issue at hand as the few are. So the Emperors ultimate failure from all of this is him not looking at the historical evidence of how effective his psyker forces were in the great crusade and instead, allowed pure subjective reasoning to be the ultimate factor in his decision making. If the emperor acted a little bit more pragmatic in the situation, he could have seen that sacrificing a critical force like psykers would not have been worth pleasing Russ and Morty and attempting to restrain magnus. Meanwhile, on the opposite end, many primarchs who do support the use of psykers are not speaking out as loudly as their opponents, either because they may not be aware of how useful their psykers are, like Dorn, or they have personal grievances with Magnus and are willing to screw themselves over if that means Magnus gets what they think he deserves, looking at Corvus and Fulgrim with that one, and lastly, there are those that do understand their importance but they also prioritize the word of Law that comes from the Emperor’s mouth, like Sanguinius and Guilliman, rather than following what they believe is the right outcome, like Magnus and Khan. Essentially, the division amongst those who support psykers, prevented them from creating a common ground for which they could unite to convince the emperor, along with the Emperors failure to focus on the issue at hand rather solely caring about his future plans that would have invalidated this entire trial as a circus instead of the outrageously backfired plan that it actually became, allowed the 5 primarchs, who had their own reasons for not wanting psykers but had enough of a common ground to form a united cause to ban psykers, was the reason why the council of Nike ended up the way it did. I mean, that’s how I interpreted the outcome.

Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?

But majorkill what did the 2nd and 11th primarchs think about the ruling?

Perturabo also built the Thaleokron that the council was to take place in. After the edict, he basically gets the ick about building something he thought was for a healthy debate, but which actually just turned out to put his bro Magnus on trial.

The emperor should have taken nikaea as a choice opportunity to explain the dangers of the warp and its 4 entities of great power and intellect. Explain that warp sorcery is different from warp powers and descends directly from those warp entities, and elucidate on his plans to protect mankind from the warp while mankind evolves into a psychic race. Tell magnus to chill on the sorcery and pursue runes as an chance to find the ancient root of human shamanistic power and create his own magic system.

Fun fact: there is a group of death guard black shields who where traitor on the events of istvaan 3 and 5 but when Mortarion embrace his psychic abilities they dump him for hypocrite

The Space Wolves attitude to Psykers is part of the reason I can never get along with them in 30k. Mostly because I've never seen them get called out on their hypocritical bullshit. Most I've seen is Dorn asking if Russ is proud of taking out a loyal legion after Prospero.

I cant tell you how many times I've been startled awake by a plastic toy screaming "BOW TO ME". Ive genuinely lost count.

Really appreciate the chronology of enforcement and when it was deemed irrelevant. Helps flesh out the earlier time-line and how it relates to the current setting. Thank you for that

Can we see some of the interesting HH battles, like the Xana incursion, a badass blackshield and zombie astartes moment. Or “the titan death”

Was on here checking to see if you had any new videos and this was posted while I was checking. Fucking nice bro 💪

Horus was definitely plotting during the counsel and the traitor primarchs were tryna point light at him to try and hide in the shadows longer

Great video! Really answers some great questions

All these primarchs recently, you need a pallet cleanser. How about a video on T'au ethereal Aun Shi because he's awesome. Plus I've been asking for a year @majorkill

It's not mentioned in the video but there is a cool interaction between Nathaniel Garro and Rogal Dorn during the Heresy. Garro basically tells Dorn it's foolish to keep his librarians imprisoned given the Edict of Nikea has been nullified and the nature of war has changed. Dorn tells Garro: "My Librarians are precisely where I need them, close at hand, in the heart of my Legion".

I love the lion and dark angels, I am English though lol "stay out of my head witch" is the first quote that comes to mind for him

Be cool to see a video with strongest space marine librarians/sorcerers besides the big names you've covered from thousand sons, blood angels and so on

Just got one of the black 1 of 400 hoodies feels good to support a good RU-vidr

hell yeah more videos

Mayjor kill should do a what if video of if the emperor didnt get injured during the horrus herecy but and killed horrus

Perturabo smashing the warp device 😂

Where’s the “primarchs in Guilliman’s place” guy?

In the book Head of The Hydra, Alpharius states that he was on Magnus's side regarding psykers, he believed that the tool needed to be mastered

You should make a vid about everytime a character got a backbreaker done to them

My fav lore RU-vidr uploaded must watch

A video about tech heresy / STCs / technoarchaeologists could be cool

"Lol, no." - Jaghatai Khan

Angron = "you make my head hurt So fucking bad.... But it pisses Dad off, so... Do what you Want, unless you fuck about with Me"

Big E doesn't want Magnus the Red to explore the warp. Meanwhile, Khaldor Draigo

Khan: _i recognice that the Emperor has made a decicion,but given that's a stupid ass decicion i have elected to ignore it._

The top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

my boss just threatened me with termination if I keep playing your videos at work lol 😆

That’s right majorkill u better kept posting videos every 2 days or this channel ain’t never making it to 600k

Jagathai is the most real primarch, man didnt care and saw everything for what it was, didnt fall in line with blind loyality amd questioned the weird shit going on leading up to the heresy amd the trators

Hey Majorkill, any chance you can let us know where you get your shirts? They're sick

Majorkill you should do a video on the life of a chaos cultists

Ta bloke. Cool vid.... love your stuff as ever.

I stay up till one just to catch ya vids mate

Council of Nicea - aka the glorified Trial of Magnus the Red.

You should do another Theoretical. “How each loyalist Primarch will react to the current state of the imperium upon their return.”

“???” Describes the Khan very well.

"This is retarded.... I choose to ignore it." Jaghatai giving more evidence as to why he is my absolute favorite fucking Primarch

The Khan just keeps becoming more of a gangster the more I learn about him. What a legend.

The reason Perty and the Iron Warriors hate psykers is because they are methodical to a T and hate anything unpredictable. Psykers are inherently unpredictable and chaotic and so Perty didn't want a tool he couldn't fully control or understand.

6:15 Magnus breaking the Webway was post-Nikaea, not pre-Nikaea.

lookin good bro, love the hair

"Ror." Said the Khan. "Rmao."

Majorkill if you read this please please please read the battle of the fang novel. It is honestly one of the best novels in the entire black library. It has serious helms deep/ helsreach energy and explains SW use of the warp. Rune priests are psykers but they really are a different breed and this novel explains how. In fact a good idea for a video would be all the times the 1kS have tried to take fenris as the codex lore and legacy of russ short stories really explain a lot of the reasons why Russ believed as he did about his priests.

I saw React and boy did I get excited

jo majorkill i recently rewatched yozr series on how to fix the warhammer fantasy endtimes and thought maybe it would be a cool idea to make a series about how a 40k endtimes would play out if it wasnt shit

Video 44 of asking ‘What if Nykona Sharrowkyn

When Russ argued against Mag and the TS, do you think it's possible that Russ and his boys thought what they were doing was different than Mag?

#Majorkill bro.. Can you make a video about the types of daemons that Adeptus Custodes,sister of silence and mechanicus had to face after the destruction of webway project?

Insert Stormseers and the most reasonable primarch.

The Lord of Iron Built the Chamber that would condemn his brother. Tragic, emperor allowed him to build something...

I mean if the Emperor had just talked with Magnus like a man, explained at least part of his ultimate plan and warned him to make absolutely no deals with any entity of the warp. And also to not do anything extreme within the warp no matter the circumstances or the possible consequences to the galaxy. We would probably still have a loyal Magnus.

To be fair, if the warp was as it would have been during the time of The Old Ones before The War in Heaven, then Magnus' desires to have psychers exploring the warp probably could have been feasible.

I would have loved to have seen a preheresy battle between the emperors children and the spacewolves.

Magnus should've been exiled after this. The Crusade was nearing closure, and it was obvious to the Big E that Magnus wasn't going to stop exploring the warp; he should have been exiled, or possibly killed.

You know what I think is missed? The emperor usually doesn’t just communicate with words. He could have explained everything about the warp and the chaos on a level few could ever comprehend. Why create some of the few beings able to fully understand and not explain it to them? If they knew everything and still chose chaos then maybe the emperor is wrong

The Khan being an absolute chad as always

pre heresy primarchs being the imperial regent

Sounds similar to the council of Nicaea in real life which brought about the Nicene creed.

Magnus did nothing wrong ( except everything)

At 7:15, can anyone find out where to find that art piece of Leman Russ? That genuinely looks🔥as hell right there.

More important, pay attention to who was against psykers at the council, but then still used them post seige of terra after the fears were realized. Why did they KEEP using them? In an era where they were least necessary, and the cost were very clearly seen and realized.

Before even watching the video Magnus the Red hates the edict because he feels it’s directed towards him. Leman Russ is happy about that because his wolf priests are definitely not psykers even though do psyker things but it’s because they have a strong connection to their planet.

who is the author of that first art of leman russ?

What book is the council talked about most in ?

Do a vid about Iskandar Khayon.

Make a beanie for the merch store. I’ll buy that shit up

Some say that because the outcome ensured the loyalty of Primarchs like Russ and Rogal but considering who ended up on each side of the heresy and the character of each Primarch, I highly doubt that it affected the loyalty of anyone

Here is a lore question. When the emperor was in the webway, completely disconnected from the warp, what was the source of his power at those moments? Why does a psyker do in the webway?

Angron’s reaction is a dark kind of funny.

That’s the best picture of the Alpha Legion. Why? Because he’s wearing Malcadors Inquisitorial I……