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How Electronic Hearing Protection Works: It's Not What You Think 

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In this video, I explain the difference between noise cancelling and electronic hearing protection. I show how each works and why electronic hearing protection can't be noise cancelling.
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@DYang01
@DYang01 Год назад
Can't believe after so many years, this is still the only video that disusses electronic ear pro in detail. Companies should be explaining how their own products work with more than just 1-2 sentences in their product description, especially with something as important as hearing protection. Curious to see if the new wave of electronic in ear ear pro works the same.
@kdawg1080
@kdawg1080 4 года назад
Thank you!!! Finally I found someone who explains this in an understandable way. Now I feel more confident that I am not at risk of overexposure to loud noises should the electronics fail.
@shubh.jain1990
@shubh.jain1990 5 лет назад
its the only video on net...I found about hearing protections working explanation...thank you !!
@tvbuu
@tvbuu 4 года назад
Yup I was looking for one too
@shubh.jain1990
@shubh.jain1990 4 года назад
@@tvbuu hehe cool !!
@johannlangner289
@johannlangner289 Год назад
True, I looked all over. Thanks for the video!
@Siberianhuskypuppy
@Siberianhuskypuppy 6 месяцев назад
I assumed electronic hearing protection was safe when shooting but I couldn’t comprehend how it worked. You did a very good job. Thank you.
@prayertool
@prayertool 4 года назад
I am new to this market. Your video explained in minutes what I have spent hours trying to understand. Thank you sir
@hhighway72
@hhighway72 5 лет назад
Outstanding presentation. Thank you.
@bryancctx
@bryancctx 6 лет назад
Very thorough explanation. Thank you.
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
I like how RU-vid keeps suggesting this video to remind me to protect my ears when I go to the range.
@boogaboo1909
@boogaboo1909 3 года назад
Excellent video. You answered a question I hadn’t thought of, and I’m really glad I came across this.
@heathermurray-miller3778
@heathermurray-miller3778 2 года назад
This was a great video with not just the logic but the physics involved explained to us. FINALLY i understand the basic tenants of what to look for for more protection from the loud gunshot noises.
@marcelo6707
@marcelo6707 2 года назад
Outstanding video, I really enjoy this type of content. I like knowing how different technologies work, great job.
@prsgirl1179
@prsgirl1179 3 года назад
Thank you for making this video. I now understand the difference between the two. Makes so much more sense to me now.
@ChristinaPetro
@ChristinaPetro 2 года назад
Thank you so much for explaining this so well! I'm a newbie and the range attendant suggested I get electronic ear muffs. I didn't expect to be able to hear sounds so I was really confused when I first tried them on! I haven't used them at the range yet but now I know what to expect! Thanks!
@thewrightstuff6174
@thewrightstuff6174 3 года назад
Cool video, very well explained. Thank you so much, I have tinnitus and always look for the best protection. Great job.
2 года назад
This was very good, very informative as I haven't been to the range yet but now I know what to expect when I get there as it pertains to my headphones. Thank you very much!
@MetalAndStoneYouTube
@MetalAndStoneYouTube 2 года назад
Very well done and illustrated my good sir. Appreciate the informative content
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 5 лет назад
Thank you brother that was very helpful.
@stephenjohnston6623
@stephenjohnston6623 5 лет назад
Very well explained indeed. Well done.
@eugenegreen9295
@eugenegreen9295 5 лет назад
Very nice explanation!
@williambarron2968
@williambarron2968 9 месяцев назад
Exactly what I needed to find great information
@a1sloth1
@a1sloth1 3 года назад
Thanks for the explanation! EXCELLENT!
@irazt
@irazt 4 года назад
Great explanation man! Loved the vid
@oo-by2tj
@oo-by2tj 5 лет назад
Thank you .great video .
@tomfred008
@tomfred008 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing this valuable information!
@Wondrrboy
@Wondrrboy Год назад
Thanks for making this video. I was wondering about that.
@korbano
@korbano Год назад
Glad I could help!
@MrSharpsh00ter
@MrSharpsh00ter 4 года назад
Thanks man!!! this is exactly what I wanted to know.
@jobourque6137
@jobourque6137 4 года назад
This is a great explanation.
@michaeldyaeger
@michaeldyaeger 4 года назад
Excellent explanation!
@jacobs4866
@jacobs4866 4 года назад
Very good explanation.
@oscarpalomo2850
@oscarpalomo2850 Год назад
Great explanation, thanks!
@raycot3479
@raycot3479 2 года назад
That was a great explanation, thanks a lot!
@kfrahber5550
@kfrahber5550 3 года назад
Thank you so much, this video is really helpful
@NorroTaku
@NorroTaku 3 месяца назад
awesome explanation i wondered if one can be used instead of the other
@rhino3334
@rhino3334 3 года назад
I learnt a lot from your video thank you.
@earlyblackmz
@earlyblackmz 2 года назад
Great explanation! 👍
@jamesferrantino5294
@jamesferrantino5294 2 года назад
Very good video. Thank you.
@00HiGhGuY00
@00HiGhGuY00 4 года назад
So basically it comes down to BS marketing. There is actually no "electronic hearing protection" all the "protection" is just passive... No different than non electronic earmuffs. The electronics, just allow quieter sounds, like your range buddy talking to you, to bypass the passive hearing protection.
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
I wouldn’t really call it BS since it doesn’t claim that the electronics add protection. But yes, the electronics are just to hear your buddy talking to you at the range and otherwise they’re regular earmuffs. Personally that’s a feature I want but to each their own
@00HiGhGuY00
@00HiGhGuY00 4 года назад
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a useful feature. It's just that by calling it what they do, it makes you think that they are like noise cancelling headphones.
@meh6513
@meh6513 2 года назад
Well earmuffs are passive but very useless in practical purposes unless you go to gun ranges because when your home gets invaded you'll most likely scramble for the gun and start looking for intruder while electronic ear muffs solve this problem by letting you hear what is being said around you and let you wear it all the time and when the sounds get loud then the loud sounds can be either compressed or cut off sound feedback when the loud sounds are registered in the computer. Thus electronic hearing protection is clearly different and clearly better
@colt5189
@colt5189 Год назад
@@korbano I've read of some noise cancelling earmuffs where they put opposite waves in your ears to neutralize outside sides that get in. I'm still researching these. It makes me think that type may be quieter since it's helping to neutralize the outside soundwaves.
@Wingzero90939
@Wingzero90939 Год назад
@@colt5189 Yeah I’m not really sure about this whole topic it’s still a bit confusing because on the higher end earmuffs the electronics have to do something. What about all those guys work on an aircraft carrier… Or the guys you see who guide in the Jets for landing they all have earmuffs clearly a jet is louder than a gun so what they have has to do something to help cancel out the sound.
@JHR78
@JHR78 3 года назад
You saved me from going to the range in Noise cancelling headphones thinking I was the man... This video was amazingly helpful. Thank you
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
What? Going to the range with this ammo shortage? Glad I could help
@WailOfDoom
@WailOfDoom 3 года назад
Great video, awesome stuff.
@Ian-we2pq
@Ian-we2pq 4 месяца назад
Thanks!! Been considering electronic muffs for aviation work :)
@leonardomatheus1888
@leonardomatheus1888 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, i always wondered if it was the eletronics that reduced the noise
@Maxime-ho9iv
@Maxime-ho9iv 6 месяцев назад
I think there is a BIG counterpoint to this video: most people think the electronic hearing protection is actually doing more than the regular (passive) ones. In practice I have yet to come to an electronic hearing protection that protects the same as the very good passive ones. Of to double protection, which is foam + muff. So to say that you are not in danger wearing an electronic hearing protection is a bit misleading. Yes the actual electronic is not creating any MORE risk BUT you may actually have a weaker hearing protection just because the protection rating is lower and the amplification is tricking you to think the sound is lower when it goes off.
@ray_c_yuen
@ray_c_yuen 3 года назад
Great explanation of the difference systems. One thing I would like to see is a dummy head with microphones where the ears are located. Then you could put the active headphones on to demonstrate loud sounds being muffled.
@funnymakerboy4199
@funnymakerboy4199 3 года назад
Thank so much it help me lot
@alext4124
@alext4124 4 года назад
Great Job...
@78tag
@78tag 3 года назад
I'm sure that you straightened out a huge misconception by the general public in the way these different headsets stop (or not) the sound entering the ear. I think I would have mentioned how the DB rating isn't a direct ratio so it would be clear just how much difference just a few DB rating makes. (even 22 to 26 is a lot) Great job.
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 3 года назад
Great info. I can’t find any active protection over 24dB. I find passive “cup of plastic” upward of 27dB. I found claims.....claims of upward of 34dB (untested, unverified by 3rd party) being sold on Ama and eBa stores. I’m looking to add silicon pads to any hearing protection I’ll buy. Currently, I use the foam plugs or use the harbour freight 5.00 specials...cheap but effective.
@robertderomo8187
@robertderomo8187 4 года назад
GREAT JOB..
@jyang6695
@jyang6695 3 года назад
finally someone explain this topic very well. Thank you Budget ,good job!
@wadepatton2433
@wadepatton2433 3 года назад
Oh but the noise cancelling phones are so good and killing the noises of cities and aircraft. Nice video, take care of your ears, tinnitus gets boring after 20 or so years of it. Concerts and other live music, loud music, power equipment, hot rods, and gunshots ruined my ears a long time ago. I now wear hearing protection at every opportunity to keep them from ringing worse. The ringing is constant (but variable), and then it gets really loud, for a while after exposure to loud sounds. I don't leave home without hearing protection.
@aksddd4385
@aksddd4385 3 года назад
Greaaaaaat video. Very informative. Keep it up dude
@jasoncox7874
@jasoncox7874 Год назад
Thank you. Is there Active noise cancelling and electronic hearing protection together in one headset?
@cryptopunk7736
@cryptopunk7736 4 месяца назад
Hi could you use electronic headphones for noises in apartment buildings, door etc?
@0Myles0
@0Myles0 Год назад
well done!
@strawberryhaze8836
@strawberryhaze8836 3 года назад
Thanks! Which kind should I buy to protect me from loud (90db) high bass hip hop music they play at my work?
@44daggers44
@44daggers44 9 месяцев назад
Great video, exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you. Liked and Subbed. I got a question if you don’t mind? Do noise cancelling headphones actually protect the ear drum? I’m wondering maybe because the sound wave isn’t lessened, just it’s opposite is played to ‘cancel’ the sound felt on the ear drum, maybe it’s like the eardrum is still being hit but just on both sides so the sound isn’t heard but the drum is still taking impact (if that makes sense)?
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard 5 месяцев назад
Noise cancelling doesn't protect. Your ears would hear "blank" noise if it could cancel very loud noises
@balazsm8896
@balazsm8896 2 года назад
Thank you
@argoman9025
@argoman9025 Год назад
why is it that recon 70 turtleeach headphones on pc make it wehere i have to talk into ear muff as a mic when the actual mic itself doesnt wrok but when i plug it into playstion it works completly fine?
@WeekendOverland
@WeekendOverland Год назад
Excellent discussion. I have used electronic hearing protection for years when training with firearms and have recently decided to start wearing protection while using other equipment that exceed 85 db. Wasn't sure how the noise cancelling headphone worked in comparison until now. Great job! BTW, not sure if this is correct but I learned on another video that the rating on electronic ear protection is not a one for one in db. There is a formula that is used to calculate the actual db reduction which sounds crazy, which results in a lot less reduction than you would think.
@korbano
@korbano Год назад
That’s absolutely correct. NRR is based on a single frequency that is not in the frequency range of firearms. Also different materials block certain frequencies better than others. For example the MSA Sordins have an NRR of 19dB but in the frequency of rifles, shotguns, and pistols, they reduce by around 27dB because the material they used blocks the frequency of firearms blasts better than the frequency that NRR is measured at. NRR is basically worthless
@WeekendOverland
@WeekendOverland Год назад
@@korbano thanks again for the info. Do you have a specific product for ear protection (with bluetooth) that you recommend for use other than firearms?
@DanielMaverick22
@DanielMaverick22 Год назад
​@@WeekendOverlandI would like to know too
@user-rt9ml7yr8f
@user-rt9ml7yr8f 2 года назад
hey in one of ur comments you mentioned that u felt the peltors were a bit better than howard leights, jw which peltor and howrd models u were talking about
@sjfell
@sjfell 3 года назад
Thank you for the explanation confirming my thoughts on ear pro. I shoot rimfire, however there is always one or more 5.56mm surrounding me on the firing line. I'm currently using ear muffs with 23 NRR, but want more to protect my hearing from the high powers rifles at the range. So Im looking for electronic earmuffs with more than 23NRR.
@thomasschoon8407
@thomasschoon8407 5 лет назад
Crystal clear in fact! The only problem I have is that I have a set of Walker 'passive' sound reduction ear muffs that reduce the sound level by 34 decibels, when looking for active sound protection, I fear I'm not going to find any with the sound reduction level without wearing ear plugs, near the decibel rating of the Walker 'passive' sound reduction model or earmuffs that I have now. Especially for shooting rifles in doors.
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
I understand your concern. I shoot indoors with a muzzle brake and NRR 24 works pretty well for me. You could wear foam earplugs underneath and turn up the volume, but it seems doubling up only adds 5 dB extra. Probably because the sound travels through your skull somewhat too.
@thomasschoon8407
@thomasschoon8407 5 лет назад
@@korbano:Oh yes I'm acutely aware of this potential problem, it's called the mastoid bone, a kind of rigid sponge-like bone with closed-cell type membranes immediately behind each ear. I had an instructor at the State Police Academy for several different courses and the main boot camp type course that had to be successfully completed before you could be certified as a police officer in the state, who suffered almost total deafness in his ears from doing different type of shotgun 'trick shots', if you will, with the shotgun on his shoulders and the muzzle of course very close to his ear, and over a period of years this bone apparently hardened enough that it couldn't vibrate like it was supposed to, and he became almost deaf, requiring hearing aids later in life, in both ears to hear adequately. This is what I want to avoid. I don't shoot like that, plus he was of the old school and used only empty brass pistol cases as his ear protection. The only practical problem with ear muffs for me is that sometimes they do not allow a proper cheek weld on a rifle stock. But the proper and appropriate priority is protecting my hearing so I will find something appropriate.
@nathanmitchell7961
@nathanmitchell7961 2 года назад
WOW dude amazing
@JayFolipurba
@JayFolipurba 4 года назад
thats exactly what I wanted to know
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
I've always wondered if electronic hearing protection worked the same way as noise cancelling. It made me think, like: "does it mean it cancels the loud noise into a very loud blank noise?" I think you pretty much answered my question: it's not cancelling the noise out. It's just that the muffs are isolating your ears from the outside, so the only way for the sound to enter is through the speaker. Thanks.
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
So the only way to "not hear anything" would be to wear a spacesuit with a "vacuum layer". Otherwise, the sound wave still travels through your skull into your ears. But that's just not practical.
@oakley_in_awe
@oakley_in_awe 3 месяца назад
Loved your video. You seem to be the expert, so I'm asking a question! I am working in a loud office space with lots of people on calls and talking. I am needing as much silence as I can get! What would you recommend for me? A lot of the noise reduction earmuffs seem to amplify ambient sounds - the sounds I want to silence... Is there an option to silence everything?
@korbano
@korbano 3 месяца назад
You’re looking for noise canceling headphones. I like AirPods Pro which work well with iPhone or Galaxy Buds for Android. Look for ones that advertise “noise canceling”. Now they’re not perfect at canceling out 100% of sounds but they make things very quiet. Especially if you play some music quietly through them
@oakley_in_awe
@oakley_in_awe 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much for your response! I've been quite hesitant to use noise cancelling headphones because they come with apps that sell your personal data... But I'll keep looking :) @@korbano
@timgurr1876
@timgurr1876 Год назад
Thanks for the video. I’m trying to reduce noise from my zero turn riding lawn mower where the engine is directly behind me and there is not any shielding around the engine to reduce noise levels. I purchased noise reduction (passive) ear muffs with NRR 25 dB. However, I can still hear low tones that are loud and tend to induce headaches after long exposure. I don’t have any noise meters to understand the decibel levels or the frequencies of the sound. The low tones are only present when the blades are engaged. I am wondering if the noise I am hearing is due to a low frequency vibration generated by the blades passing through air at a high velocity, since the low tones become louder the faster the blades turn. What materials help attenuate (reduce) the passing of sound frequencies and what materials are better for lower to higher frequencies? Thanks. Your explanation of the electronic noise reduction is great in theory, but the earmuff themselves are not a soundproof barrier. Even if the materials that reduce sound in the earmuffs are sound proof, the seal around the ears is not air tight and allows sound to pass through. So would it make sense to have noise cancelling earbuds covered with just standard noise reduction electronic or regular sound reduction earmuffs to further reduce noise reaching the eardrums?
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
When purchasing hearing protection, you can look for an attenuation table which shows the effectiveness over a wide range of frequencies, or you could ask for it if you're purchasing online. Some muffs work really well on medium to high frequencies but offer little protection in the low ranges (which is to be expected when they're not thick enough). You can also double up the muffs with in-ear protection (which work better for low frequencies). You'd just have to be careful when removing them to not damage your ears with the suction effect.
@ugandaknuckles590
@ugandaknuckles590 2 года назад
What do I use against thunder storms ?
@marincapital2586
@marincapital2586 4 года назад
This is an excellent explanation. Thank you very much for your video. It is exactly what I’ve been looking for. In your opinion what is the best way to protect my ears from gunshots? I shoot a rifle
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
The Peltor Tactical 300’s are great for outdoors with rifles. It works well indoors too but add the foam earplugs underneath for a little more protection
@voidegames4832
@voidegames4832 3 года назад
i have little doubt, If you could answer, how's the sound quality of those earmuff models with a Jack imput, like, they're good to hearing music ? I know there are better equipment tô hearing music, but im really curious, Nice video btw
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
They don’t sound very good. Any cheap pair of earbuds would sound much better
@zehnmoriarty3228
@zehnmoriarty3228 2 месяца назад
I know this has been a long time ago but would passive earmuffs like Walker’s Razor Slim would suffice in an indoor gun range?
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Месяц назад
Depends what calibre you expect to shoot or expect people to shoot, as well as the room echo treatment, and how much you value your hearing. Personally, even 9 mm indoor is super loud where I go, so I always go with as much protection as I can (muffs doubled with plugs). Watch out for self-certified NRR though. Earmuffs that go waaay above 30 dB are dubious.
@kurama567
@kurama567 3 года назад
Sorry late to the party, thank you for the very useful info. I'm hard of hearing and own a pair of BT(behind the ear) with over 75% loss. How well this gun range ear muff/electronic muff will work on me? I was aiming towards electronic muff due to sound amplifies surround area such as voice which is plus for me that way I don't need to wear a hearing aid( I hope I don't). The problem is most ear muff inlay not deep enough to cover my ear with hearing aid otherwise when it's too close to hearing aid it whistles. Second I once went to gun range a long time ago through a friend. and my ear was ringing for a week any sulotion?
@allenkoronkiewicz7184
@allenkoronkiewicz7184 3 года назад
Take off the hearing aids
@kurama567
@kurama567 3 года назад
@@allenkoronkiewicz7184 Thank you
@hycron1234
@hycron1234 3 года назад
My neighbors play their annoying music at night while I'm trying to sleep. I get to hear their bass through our walls. Any recommendations for eliminating this sound? Do you think something like the Peltor 300 would work at blocking the "diff, diff, diff" sound that keeps me awake at 3am? I'm at my wits end. Thanks.
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
Unfortunately bass travels through things pretty well, including your skull. So even if you had headphones that block 100% of the sound, you’d still hear it. I had neighbors in the college dorms that did the exact same thing and trust me I tried everything. Nothing works good enough. You have to either tell them to stop or file a noise complaint
@PlayerAfricanChieften
@PlayerAfricanChieften 2 года назад
How would these kind of ear protection fare in an industrial environments with loud machinery, grinding, cranes and such?
@sainehonsa
@sainehonsa 2 года назад
I work in a wood manufacturing plant and it works great , but if I don't need to communicate with other people I rather use earplugs, we usually have a noise level from 80-100 dB . If you're earpro will be exposed to moisture I recommend sordin they seem to be pretty weather proof
@compscript7973
@compscript7973 Год назад
I need hearing protection that blocks all sounds especially people talking. It can't be Bluetooth. Any help would be appreciated.
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
You need to combine passive earmuffs (hearing protection) with active earplugs (noise cancelling plugs). The outer layer muffs will lower down all the noises around you, and the earplugs will erase out the remaining sound that manages to reach your ears.
@Broken_Arrow58
@Broken_Arrow58 11 месяцев назад
I'm in the market for gun range hearing protection. Your point is that electronic muffs are better protection than noise cancelling headphones, correct? Thank you!
@korbano
@korbano 11 месяцев назад
Correct. Noise cancelling will not protect your ears. You need electronic muffs
@Broken_Arrow58
@Broken_Arrow58 11 месяцев назад
@@korbano Got it. And one can always supplement with ear plugs.
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 9 месяцев назад
how about the sordin supreme pro ear muffs? Those things barely have any protection in the "muff" itself.
@korbano
@korbano 9 месяцев назад
That’s because NRR is measured at a specific frequency. At the frequency of gunfire, the sordins have good protection
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 9 месяцев назад
@@korbano okay. I was concerned as my sordins felt so loud, and when I opened them up , there was barely any “materials” inside. I had to double up with in ear protection to make it felt safe
@korbano
@korbano 9 месяцев назад
@@LoveLikeaHurricane Yeah they’re pretty thin but they supposedly use good materials. I think the denser it is, the better it blocks sounds so most cheap earmuffs have to be so thick because they just use lower density foam. It’s a good idea to double up and wear foam earplugs anyway though.
@cokemillion
@cokemillion Год назад
So if the battery dies does it just act like regular ear pro?
@korbano
@korbano Год назад
Correct
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 лет назад
Can You hear the low sounds over the high ones Since they are electric, lets Say there's a jet engine close and the earmuffs tone it down, but then some speaks while the engine it's running, would i be able to hear that person? Or the earmuffs would also tone it down?
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
The peltor 300’s are digital so they analyze the signal and try to pick out the person talking and only amplify that. They’re better suited for large pulses like gunshots or drums. I’ve worn them around drums and the cymbals are a continuous loud sound similar to a jet engine. It does ok. You’ll have to shout to hear people but it’s better than regular earmuffs.
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 лет назад
@@korbano oh okay man, and i Guess the same principle would work for something like a chainsaw?
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
david rodriguez yeah probably. It’s pretty tricky to filter out everything except the voice
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv
@davidrodriguez-kn9mv 5 лет назад
@@korbano oh okay man got it, great vídeo already subscribed
@user-wd1vd9du2q
@user-wd1vd9du2q 10 месяцев назад
Great informative video sir!
@korbano
@korbano 10 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@colt5189
@colt5189 Год назад
Do those active ear muffs with the microphone let you turn the microphone off? I'd want the microphone off as I want to block as much outside noise as possible, but I want to listen to my music via bluetooth.
@korbano
@korbano Год назад
No, if you turn off the microphones it turns off the music too with this specific model.
@colt5189
@colt5189 Год назад
@@korbano Thanks. I guess if I were to get one of these, then I could just try and open it up and cut the wires to the microphone. As I want to block as much noise as possible from the outside. Do you have any recommendations on ear muffs with high NRR that has bluetooth to listen to music with? Thanks. I wish they made 33db NRR with bluetooth, but looks like they don't.
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
@@colt5189 I came across some Peltor muffs that do have bluetooth or radios and which work as "industrial electronic hearing protection", but I can't guarantee how well they work since I use passive muffs. Perhaps you could wear tiny bluetooth ear plugs under passive muffs?
@Chipwhitley274
@Chipwhitley274 4 года назад
It is my understanding that an NRR rating isn't a direct decibel reduction... you subtract 7 and then divide by two... so a 22 nrr is only a 7.5 decibel reduction. So the 150 decibel gunshot would only be reduced to 142.5. If I am not mistaken... that makes the hearing protection practically useless.
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
NRR is also based on frequency, not just decibels. So while a set of earmuffs claims a NRR 22, the actual decibel reduction depends on frequency too. For example the MSA Siordins cost like $300 and only claim NRR 19 which doesn’t sound very good. But at the frequency of a rifle shot, the actual decibel reduction is more like 27-30 decibels. I don’t know what the actual reduction of the Peltors is but from experience, it provides an adequate amount of protection for rifles indoor and is plenty good protection for rifles outdoors. Hope this helps
@TheSuperwrenchGarage
@TheSuperwrenchGarage 3 года назад
So would this technology work in a shop when power tools are running and still allow you to hear potential people talking to you?
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
Possibly. I think it would be difficult to hear someone talking while the power tools were making noise but at the very least, you could hear them when the power tools are not making noise so you don’t have to keep taking your hearing protection off to talk to someone
@tommartin5217
@tommartin5217 10 месяцев назад
My understanding is that electronic hearing protection headphones totally clip or shut off when a loud noise is present so you hear almost nothing for a period of time including voices. Is that consistent with this explanation? It seems different to me. I assume the gun shot would still be heard but at a much lower volume.
@Siberianhuskypuppy
@Siberianhuskypuppy 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that’s what iv been reading. That’s what made it so confusing for me . I wondered if a small part of the 140db+ made it to my years before the speakers clip or shut off. He made a good point in that the speaker inside the earmuffs wouldn’t be able to produce the 140+ db blast from the gun. They just couldn’t handle it nor would the manufacturer put a speaker in earmuffs that could reproduce that level of sound. They probably clip/ shut off because they cannot handle the sound. But even if they didn’t shut off the speaker still couldn’t produce that level of sound.
@Maxime-ho9iv
@Maxime-ho9iv 6 месяцев назад
No. When the electronic hearing protection « shut off » when a loud noise is present, it is actually only shutting down the speakers inside your headset or the amplification of the outside world. To say it differently. when there is no loud sound, your electronic hearing headset is listening to outside sounds and diffusing them via the drivers inside your headset. When a loud sound is detected it simply stops doing this. So the actual hearing protection of an electronic hearing protection headset is the passive shell of the headset, just like a regular non-electronic hearing protection (except most electronic ones are actually a bit inferior because they try to fit everything in the same size).
@rubisspiderido4612
@rubisspiderido4612 4 года назад
Are there any headphones with both active noise cancellation, and electronic hearing protection?
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
I haven’t seen any headphones with this capability. That’s a good idea for a product
@romerogiovanni7
@romerogiovanni7 4 года назад
If I'm not mistaken, the Walker Razor electronic hearing protection does this.
@jsociety4964
@jsociety4964 2 года назад
So which ones the best at least to protect your ears from fireworks?
@korbano
@korbano 2 года назад
Electronic hearing protection works great for fireworks
@user-vm7kn3xs6c
@user-vm7kn3xs6c 2 года назад
so if I dont want hear my neighbor talking in the adjacent apt or dog barking which one should I use?
@korbano
@korbano 2 года назад
Noise cancelling. But even still, you may hear them depending how loud it is. I find foam earplugs to work best and be most comfortable for noisy neighbors
@militarymadness9133
@militarymadness9133 3 года назад
im confused here. You say the protection only comes from the cups but then you say the electronics turn down the loud sound too when it is detected.
@replacesoundboard
@replacesoundboard Год назад
I know this comment is a year old, but I thought I'd try and explain just in case. TL;DR: What protects you is the thick layer of soundproof material. The electronic only amplifies tiny noises so that you can hear people talking, and it turns off with loud noises so that sound can reach you through the muffs itself. Without the electronic, you're still protected, but you won't hear people talking. Basically, the electronic hearing protection muffs work the same way as passive ones: it's the thick layer of foams and stuffs that isolate your ears from the outside environment, reducing all the noises that can reach them. The electronic is only useful for the microphone which transcribes (and amplifies) the tiny sounds such as people talking to you, so that you can hear them through the thick soundproof muffs. When a loud noise happens (e.g. gun shot, machinery), the microphone turns itself off. What this means is, nothing will be amplified anymore, and you will only hear whatever sound goes through the muffs directly. And since it's soundproof, it protects your ears.
@castlehill6717
@castlehill6717 4 года назад
So essentially its using a compressor/limiter/expander? Edit: I just realized it must be a reverse gate. When the outside amplitude hits a certain gain threshold it “shuts down” and doesn’t reproduce through the headphone speakers. Genius.
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
Basically. The more expensive ones like the Peltor 300’s analyze the signal to try to let a person’s voice too even when it hits the amplitude limit. It doesn’t work very well though and it’s still hard to hear people talking during gunshots unless the shots are farther away or quieter
@skogib4846
@skogib4846 3 года назад
@@korbano I wonder why they don't just scale the amplitude of the output audio down instead of shutting it down period. That would allow you to hear everything all the time, including the gunshot and voices at the same time, just at a safe cap db.
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
@@skogib4846 Well the gunshot is so much louder than voices so if they just scaled it down, you wouldn't be able to hear the voices anyway. But the Peltor 300's try to do some live audio processing to try to allow the voice to be heard and not the gunshot but it doesn't work that well. It takes a lot of processing power to do live noise analysis like that
@skogib4846
@skogib4846 3 года назад
@@korbano That makes sense, yeah.
@Filo181.
@Filo181. Год назад
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@rahulbangar786
@rahulbangar786 2 года назад
which one is best for reducing noise in office so I can focus on my work?
@korbano
@korbano 2 года назад
Noise canceling headphones are best for that situation. I have the AirPod Pros and they work pretty well but any noise canceling headphones will be decent especially with some music playing quietly
@rahulbangar786
@rahulbangar786 2 года назад
@@korbano Noise isolation or active noise cancellation will work better?
@korbano
@korbano 2 года назад
@@rahulbangar786 noise isolation is just like regular ear muffs or ear plugs. Those will work ok and are cheap but active noise cancellation works even better but requires electronics to work
@rahulbangar786
@rahulbangar786 2 года назад
@@korbano Thanks, I will buy active noise cancellation earphones or headphones
@user-fs7be8oe8r
@user-fs7be8oe8r 11 месяцев назад
So wait, if I just want to block out all sounds in order to studying, what exactly can you recommend to me?
@korbano
@korbano 11 месяцев назад
Noise cancelling headphones work great for studying
@D_PMAN
@D_PMAN 9 месяцев назад
​@@korbanoPlease which particular product would you recommend, I really need it for my studies. My neighborhood is very noisy😭
@korbano
@korbano 9 месяцев назад
@@D_PMAN I like the Apple AirPod Pros especially if you have an iPhone. The Samsung Galaxy Buds Pro are good too
@jlastre
@jlastre 5 лет назад
Nice explanation, but you're aware that the NRR ratings are fairly useless. Companies can cherry pick from a list. For example MSA Sordins are NRR 19, but offer some of the best ear pro for electronic ear pro.
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
jlastre that’s quite interesting. I suppose it’s kind of like flashlights saying they have a lot of lumens when they’re only picking the brightest spot. I can say that the Peltors definitely have better protection than the Howard Leights. I usually put foam earplugs in with the Howard Leights but I don’t need to with the Peltor
@jlastre
@jlastre 5 лет назад
Budget Tool Reviews I am getting back into shooting after a long absence so am doing my research. Back in the day I bought a pair of Peltor H7 which is rated at NRR 27 which are quite cheap. I'm sure you're also aware that Db is logarithmic. So the difference can be substantial...if the ratings were worth something. Usually the bigger the ear pro the better. I have a pair of Sordins but plan to double up as you do for indoor use. I like the Peltor 500s for the Bluetooth and might buy a pair as I can't see buying the Sordin Bluetooth version. Build quality can matter too. People seem to be raving about Pro for Sho as they are low profile and cheap. A RU-vidr dissected a pair and the construction is quite good. One last point is over the ear is important IMO. It protects the bone connected to your auditory inner ear.
@liamsorensen5897
@liamsorensen5897 2 года назад
How does doubling up with muffs and ear plugs work?
@korbano
@korbano 2 года назад
You’d wear ear plugs under the electronic hearing protection and just turn up the volume all the way. You won’t be able to hear people as clearly but it adds a little more protection
@vgmaster9
@vgmaster9 Год назад
@@korbano Right now I'm wearing earplugs under my PC headset which I turn max volume.
@straytracks2662
@straytracks2662 4 года назад
I think this explination might be a bit misleading. Dont take this to mean you cant get hearing damage because u have headphones on. But what do I know?
@korbano
@korbano 4 года назад
It means you won’t get anymore hearing damage than you would wearing regular headphones with the same dB rating. The point was to clear up the misconception that electronic hearing protection amplifies loud sounds causing more hearing damage, when this is not true
@funnymakerboy4199
@funnymakerboy4199 3 года назад
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@raudi2936
@raudi2936 3 года назад
God i just found this video after i had ordered an electronic hearing protection product thinking it was noise cancelling.
@korbano
@korbano 3 года назад
That’s unfortunate lol. I bet RU-vid recommended the video because you bought electronic hearing protection
@raudi2936
@raudi2936 3 года назад
@@korbano hahahaha yeah maybe but that's really sad thou
@raguaviva
@raguaviva Год назад
they don't "block all the sound"
@Journeycam
@Journeycam 5 лет назад
I am confused. Based on your explanation, an electronic ear muff with an NRR of 19 would not reduce the gunshot anymore than a static ear muff with the same NRR. So why would anyone pay more for electronic muffs (as much as $200 -$300 more) other than to amplify the quite sounds? Indeed, for only ear protection, a pair of $300 MSA’s are no better than a $20 static muff with the same NRR of 19. I know for a fact that shooting a high caliper rifle is much quieter with the electronic MSA’s.
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
Journeycam because with regular earmuffs, you can’t hear people talking. The electronic ones allow you to have conversations, hear people sneaking up on you, etc. while still protecting your ears from loud noises. Not sure where you’re getting $300 from. I got the Howard Leight Impact Sports for $35 and the Peltors for around $90. They’re more expensive because the audio is much clearer. There are ones $300 and up that are that price because they have a higher NRR, they’re much higher quality (meant for professionals), and usually have built in connectors for radios and other communication devices. I wouldn’t pay that much for them unless I was going into the military.
@Journeycam
@Journeycam 5 лет назад
Budget Tool Reviews MSA Sordin Supreme X is $275+ with NRR of 19. Also, if what you are saying is true, ear protection for military or civilian gun purposes would not need a 82db cut out since every gun shot is well over that level. It would cut out the amplification of any sound over 82 but do nothing more than a pair of static ear muffs with an NRR of 19.
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
Journeycam NRR 19 is unacceptable and should be minimum 22. As for the second part, I’m not sure what you’re saying. All gunshots are above 82 dB so all gunshots would not be “amplified”. And by amplified, I just mean not reproduced by the headphones. The headphones will not make the sound louder than 82 dB. Anything less than 82 dB will be reproduced through the speaker but anything greater than 82 dB and the electronics shut off and it is exactly like a pair of regular earmuffs at that point. The 82 dB is just the point at which the mics shut off and has nothing to do with the noise rating
@korbano
@korbano 5 лет назад
Journeycam so I just looked up those earmuffs and I think they’re so expensive because of their quality/durability. They’re shockproof and waterproof which most earmuffs are not, and they have gel cups which are much more comfortable than the standard foam. Also from what I read, the NRR of 19 is misleading. Different frequencies penetrate differently and at the the frequency of rifles, the MSA Sordins reduces the noise by 27 dB. I suppose NRR is an average over all frequencies, and at the frequencies of gunshots, the MSA’s work better. It’s like comparing lumens and candela in flashlights. Lumens is just the brightest point but candela is intensity. You can have a ton of lumens but a flashlight can still look dim because it doesn’t have enough intensity. In the same way, headphones can have a good NRR but a bad decibel reduction in the frequencies we want
@Journeycam
@Journeycam 5 лет назад
Budget Tool Reviews Been researching it. Freq benefits are bogus. Freq is not a function of dB ratings. It is just harder to hear freq between 500 and 5,000 unless you are a dog. If they claim a benefit because they are able to target 8,000 Mz, it is only a benefit because the freq is a little harder to hear which has nothing to do with SPL. When you get your ears tested, they will use freq ranges between 500 and 20’000 Mz which is the hearing range of the human ear to test your hearing loss. The higher freq doesn’t hurt your ears unless they raise the dB.
@funnymakerboy4199
@funnymakerboy4199 3 года назад
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