How ENTPs Defy Their Stereotype 

Aww that's so lovely!!

The "ok now that you agree with me let me show you where you could do better until you agree with me again" is so ENTP.

He probably values you a lot for that emotional support. Just letting him be himself around you. I wish I had more cool aunts like you growing up ENTP.

Ahahah I do that too! And eventually end up debating both sides with myself. Man I miss debates

Is he truly arguing though or just debating alternative perspectives to get others to see things from a different angle 🤔

Can confirm. My ENTJ friend already understood my hidden potential long before I did. I was always able to keep up with them...when I wanted to. ENTJs are amazing friends. I actually get more miffed when people talk bad about ENTJs than ENTPs.

Warpath? I'm not sure about the martial language. ENTPs can certainly pursue their dreams uncompromisingly though, provided they can fend off distraction.

@@WorldSocionics ないす

@@WorldSocionics Yes. The actualized entp is going to engage in conflict often due to Ne ti and se fi.

@@chuhwey3632 ENTPs don't value Se and Fi is a total blind spot. You can't be both exploratory/indirect and direct/combative. Can't be both impersonal/principle-driven and personal/relationship-driven

agreed!

Yes! Like we aren’t all trolling d-bags all the time.

I get this. I always had to solve problems and even prevent them from happening by diffusing the situation before it escalates due to uncontrollable emotions. just to maintain some semblance of peace and harmony growing up

this is my exact situation! we had to develop our Fe earlier in life

This sounds like me 😢

A game we picked up as boys.

Yes, We Are Cunning Linguists, Master Debaters And Masters Of The Roast.

I did that for a long time, and, I am telling you, it gets old!

@@barbarajloriordan2697 Everything Get’s Old. Even Me At 52. I’m The Oldest ENTP I Know. We Must Not Live Long.

I am 73.

Just for the fun, try to observate him and his vicinity than he stop doing a specific group activity, it would be familiar to me, if the whole group would start to stop the activity too. I knew this scenario specially, if the ENTP himself was the person who brought the group together

@@khuturuwmorow6267 You mean to spotlight the activity that he's doing?

@@winchester_8932 Yep, I gues this discrybes it pretty accectly

I no longer am doing so but when i was an independent contractor as a mover and delivery guy, i couldn't get enough if it.

Another Rare Female ENTP. Always Interesting ;)

@@ClubENTP Are we?

@@ainspains3485 Yes, I Just Had Melissa_Talks On My Show And Before That In Episode 8, I Typed My First ENTP Female I’ve Ever Met.

@@ClubENTP she's not an actual ENTP female though. ENTP females exist, the founder of Socionics was one, and so is Felicia Day, Amanda Knox and probably Tina Fey. Melissa isn't, and what Nathan describes here is completely different to Melissa's very apparent Fi Inferior and Se Tertiary.

I've naturally wrote stories as a kid and put them in a corner of my homeroom for other kids to read. It got pretty good feedback and they kept requesting the next chapter but I was already onto writing a brand new book lol. Started about 100 new story/ideas but never finished one

My advice to you, try to connect your ideas in a Single book, and you are able to write some great and induvidual books

The INFJ is a master of: 'shutting the fuck up'. People largely just want to FEEL that people are listening. INFJs deliver hard. That doesn't mean the INFJ cares about you, likes you, or is even listening. But they can quietly nod their head and tolerate you. I know this from listening to my INFJ friend complain about other people in their life. Yes, they are hyper sensitive towards others, can separate emotions from events, and sometimes treat people like pet projects trying to fix. But underneath it all is someone that wants to be left alone.

@@Niveous23 笑 笑 笑

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Mmm I might agree. The most honest people around me (usually my siblings) will tell me I’m being disagreeable & I’m over here thinking I’ve been successful in my Herculean effort to hold back & make sure everyone perceives they are being heard.

Nail on the head!- ENXP

Even as an older ENTP I could misjudge what upsets people, because almost nothing upsets me, but I can adjust well. In practice this means that I am initially more careful with people, until I see where their landmines are.

@@unbelievablebehavior9256 Ha Ha, Yeah, Right? I Think We Improve As We Age If We Don’t Get Shot For Picking An Argument With A Biker.

It's very true. The problem with that pair is when the INFJ didn't set up a boundary, and the ENTP totally missed any subtle or not so subtle cues that their INFJ friend is uncomfortable.

I'm infj and my husbands entp, we love solving problems we live volunteering and organizing. He can learn a tabletop game rules very fast we love teaching tabletops games I am good at helping newbies feel comfortable while he can debate the semantics of ths game so that it's clear to everyone why they are the way they are. Our lives are easy and flow, also our kids have a very full understanding of our positioning on literally everything they ask us about.

@@Niveous23 Exactly, the INFJ has to have very clear boundaries, which I think is beneficial when dealing with all other personality types.

Will ad this to my bucket list. Or for other ENTP that didn’t learned in this fill. I think Hospitality industry is also a good choice. It’s offer you opportunity to meet new people every day, learn little things every second. When you bored you can switch to other jobs easily. But the problem is the pay is not that high and it’s mostly short lifetime contract.

That sounds really good, especially the stability part. I'm not an ENTJ, but I do crave variety (or a regular rotation of duties at least) in my position, and a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive, even to the point of causing me to question the value of college degrees. I worked in product development at one point, and it was my favorite job. I'm trying to find another one, but it is tough going.

@@FlamingCockatiel "a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive" - this was one of my biggest issues as an ENTP with an undergrad degree in biology. The only jobs were low level lab techs, which consisted of mostly independent, repetitive cookbook work. I was bored to tears.

@@laskyam You know it. The process of getting the degree (chemistry for me) was more interesting than most jobs it got me. I was micromanaged at one of those lab jobs, and I was/am ready to leave science work because of it + repetitiveness. However, there is a popular idea that science degree = good job and I had someone at a landscaping company tell me to seek work in my field. How did you happen to get your job? I apply for what interests me (product development and technical writing), but, alas, they all want experienced people and/or an advanced degree plus a salesman personality.

@@FlamingCockatiel I decided I wanted to phase out of lab work, so I did some research on what non-lab jobs I could pursue with my background. After some soul searching, I looked for grad school programs that would help me change careers. I was fortunate to find one (environmental and community health) that was local, cheap, and had a good relationship with some big employers. With a Chem degree, you could apply to my job (industrial hygienist) without any additional credentials.

I’ve Always Thought Of Myself As A Peace Maker But It Depends On The Value Of The People. Sometimes We Light The Bridge On Fire.

ENTPs are, and I'm willing to be wrong here, are one of the few empath types that can turn their emotions on and off....like a light switch. I'v had INFJ and INFP people tell me that, "just being around so-and-so is emotionally draining". And I could never understand that. I'd be like, "Just cut em' off" And I'v learned that what I consider something as simple as, "Oh....fuck this circus. I'mma tune this idiot out" is something other types can't do. I have no anxiety around them either, because I don't mind making a scene, and telling them to fuck off. Other empath types also seem very anxious about 'causing a scene'.

I don't see things as battles tbh and I certainly don't want to "win".Life might be a game but there aren't any winners imo, unless learning is winning but in that case we all win, so how can there be winners if there are no losers? Ultimately regardless of the outcome I think its about having fun living your idea of life and a little conflict & questioning is fine bc its not about whos the winner but what we learn. But that's my opinion idk

@@tahsina.c spoken like a true ENTP. it's amazing how pathetic and surface level the MBTI community is of ENTPs as a whole. i don't debate to 'win'. i do it cuz it's fun. i learn, they learn, i get better, they get better. what's not to love?

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@@ClubENTP and that's why Melissa Talks isn't an ENTP.

@@WorldSocionics Is that the reason? I just thought she was sucked up into the 'cancel culture' hype. Like....it didn't happen overnight. You can watch her become more authoritarian and judgmental as time goes on. She seemed more scatter brained and emotionally detached at first. I think she's an ENTP that can't do youtube upload scheduling properly, is starting to spiral outta control slowly....and has been sucked into the cancel culture cult mentality....and trying really hard to become an apologist for it. If i were to guess, I believe soon she'll go full downward ENTP spiral and start over indulging is worldly pleasures.

@@Niveous23 nah, this was clear in her other videos too, such as the one on romantic relationships, and the one where she discusses her social anxiety. Melissa shows every sign of Fi inferior, not Fi blind spot. She questions why someone might like her, and leans towards distrusting the intentions of people, and needing to test intentions before letting people in. She puts up boundaries, and is careful to control what happens on her channel. Being around people she can trust is very important to her, and a place of great pain when she gets that wrong. If you get on her wrong side, she will hold a grudge, and she has really made a point of how she will attack those who upset her INFP friends too. ENTPs really don't care about this sort of thing, if you're positive and friendly, they'll enjoy your company, and will easily let bygones be bygones if you may have had a falling out before. They don't keep score because they suppress their personal judgements and attitudes in favour of logical reasons and expressed emotions.

@@Niveous23 Think about it. Is Melissa an easy-going, risk-friendly person? Does she open up possibilities for their own sake? No, she's a very serious person. She does not take things lightly by nature. That's a clear personality trait from watching her videos. When she's actually pissed off, it's an ongoing, personal thing, up goes the drawbridge. This is xNTJ behaviour, not xNTP behaviour and especially not ENTP. No 'cancel culture hype' or feminism, or whatever is going to change an ENTP's values to look like that. If an ENTP tries to censor, it is because they're buckling under pressure from others to censor, it's not because they are personally offended by something.

Well I think all Ti users don’t think it’s necessary to be understood :)

It seems everyone thinks we're either jerks or clowns :(

It’s true. Our type is almost always portrayed as the most immature and underdeveloped version of ourselves. And most mature ENTPs get mistyped.

@@user-on1lu3tf4k 100% Perfectly Said.

@@christopherbucher7017 We’re Not Only That But So Much More. lol We Play Off Our Surroundings. To The A-hole, We’re An A-Hole, To The Humble We’re A Clown.

I'm happy that I have a friend group of an entj, an enfp, an intp and more entps who love debating my ideas with me so I never have to pull back the debate.

"isn't"

You seriously expect any of us to debate you on that amazingly ambiguous statement?

@@Raage. Yes.

But sometimes it is, right? And when isn't it messy?

You're in denial

I think so too

Very good point.... i did notice that he does have an interest in ENT but he did say that his roommate is ENTP. Also who isnt fascinated with ENTP's ?

if i'm correct, Fi is actually our blind (PoLR) function being as it's in the seventh slot. I just started learning about this facet of mbti, but it sure explains a lot lol. as an entp, it's so hard to know how i feel about anything! this goes for my delayed reaction to sad things happening to me, and it also makes it near impossible to develop a firm personal stance on a given topic. we naturally see exceptions to sweeping moral statements, and we're much more curious than we are judgemental, both of which make us excellent advocates for understanding the people and things deemed "bad" by the community but also leave us with very few absolutes in our lives.

I agree that some ENTPs find it difficult to know what they feel. I think, though, that as life goes on, we all go through crises. During times of crisis, the unconscious may take over, and parts of ourselves that we could not see in the past become visible to us. Life affords us these opportunities so that we can come to know more of ourselves. I’m an older ENTP (in my seventies), and I do believe that life has turned me “inside out” during several periods of time. In those times, when I may have lived more from other parts of the personality (subconscious or unconscious) I may actually have seemed more like an INTJ or even an INTP or even an INFP. During those periods, hidden functions may have emerged. I think that ENTP goes on its relentless questioning and opposing precisely because it is searching for something internal that it can believe in. The Fi is the secret lover on whose behalf the whole quest is conducted. I think that it is important to recognize that all the functions are defined by their relationship with the Hero function. For example, if Fi is hidden, it is hidden to the NE-TI hero and parent. If a child does not receive the affection and attention from the parent that it craves, it will act out - perhaps becoming a trickster. Playing tricks may be the only way in which the child obtains the parent’s attention. Along the same line, if a child is repeatedly ignored, cast off, and scorned by the parent, it may take refuge in being a “bad child” - that is, a demon - just because that is the only way that the child can get the parent to listen. For this reason, I think that it is very important to cultivate the parts of ourselves that we may tend to judge, avoid, shun, or scorn. All those functions can become our savior insofar as they help to complete and even resurrect the personality. That’s just my opinion, though. Others may see something that I am missing or may see things differently.

@@auntbeast9640 ^this

I'm an INTJ with a close ENTP friend, and I have to say he simply cannot relate to Fi the way I do. To him everything is exceptions, bending the rules, and 'yeah but what if'. To me an Fi conviction is unbreakable, no ifs ands or buts.

@@EresirThe1st I am hearing that your ENTP friend has a hard time relating to the world except through construct, which can always be changed. I think I that life provides opportunities in which all types can grow and change. I’m ENTP, in my seventies, and I do have some unbreakable convictions. One for example, is the belief that within each person is a being that is divinely intelligent, creative, resilient, and, given compassion, able to find its way out of any entanglement that it may have created for itself. Another is to look for the source of interpersonal difficulties in myself because the willingness to discover one’s mistakes sets us all free. A third is to understand the difference between saying something that is harmful and something that may be painful to hear, and to commit myself to doing no harm. Another is that each person’s spiritual journey is the most important aspect of their life. I am ENTP through and though, and yet I hold these beliefs as incontrovertible.

When are you publishing that book?

@@ainspains3485 I’ve Paused Work On It Because It Deals With Only 4 Personality Types. Now I Will Be Incorporating All 16 Types. I Have So Many Projects Including Inventions.

I read about warp bubbles yesterday. The world is filled with crazy sci-fi/borderline physics stuff out there. It's a big world of infinite questions, and I love it.

Can I borrow a cup of your soul then? lol My bestie is an ENTJ, and I love them. And I ...can...keep up. But it's a struggle. I find it hard to be motivated, but they seem to pull motivation outta thin air.

@@Niveous23 I find that ENTJs are motivated by goals. As long as they're hitting their milestones, getting their team to get those tasks done, they're happy. Me, I need a vision. I can weather obstacles, setbacks with a compelling vision. Without that, I'm dead in the water, zero motivation.

If you are really committed to the truths you are coming up with, you will give them enough time to bring them into some kind of fruition. This involves a lot of lonely work. If you are looking for ego-strokes or money as the main payoff, that's probably not going to work for an ENTP. The other thing about completing any big project, is that you have to discipline yourself not to get too involved in side projects. The most important thing is neither courage nor brilliance. It is perseverance.

Disciplined

Win-win

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