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Guys I am going to just drop part 2 right now since some of you guys want to watch it right away. HOWEVER, I had tons of copyright issues with the video so I had to do some weird editing stuff to get it up on RU-vid but I did what I could!
The NFL just like a lot of Americans were on the move. From the farm 1800s to the factories 1880 to 1950s to the suburbs 1960s to today. And millenials to Silicon Valley etc. In the past some people would just pick up and leave abandoning properties and sometimes families.
One thing to consider is that the NFL and pro game isn't the birthplace of the sport - it started as a collegiate sport, as a game between universities. It became a professional sport only in the following decades. the first football games were in the 1870s between the ivy league universities and rutgers.
The college game was around for more than 50 years before the NFL was founded. To put into time line context, the original Princeton - Rutgers game had players who were civil war veterans. Professional baseball was founded in 1871, so cfb is older. Spectator sports really became a thing in the 1870's, because that's the first time in American history that anyone other than the ultra rich had leisure time or disposable income. The big sports of the day was baseball, cfb, boxing, and horseracing. The NFL was not a bigger sport than college until about 1970. Television is a big part of that, but the Jets over the Colts in Super Bowl 3 had a big part, too.
Baseball has existed in some form as a separate sport since the 1840s and 1850s. It was much bigger than football for a very long time. It's only been since the 1960s and the popularity of television that football overtook baseball as the premier professional team sport in the country.
The National League of baseball was founded in 1876, and the American League in 1901. Boston Braves are now in Atlanta, though they were in Milwaukee between cities. Washington changed their name from Redskins to Commanders. When they moved from Boston to Washington, they were the furthest south team, and they embraced being the only Southern team, so they embraced that, and their fight song said, "Fight for old Dixie." The reason why the Rams moved from Cleveland was because immediately after the war, a new league formed, that included a team in Cleveland. And that team was so good, it immediately dominated the city, forcing the Rams to move. There are a lot of League One and League Two teams that are recently formed (MK Dons in 2004), but the most recent team in the Championship are Wigan, formed in 1932.
The football Boston Braves did not come to Atlanta. That was the baseball Boston Braves who came to Atlanta after a short stint being the Milwaukee Braves. Washington Redskins were the most southern team and their games were broadcast to southern states. African-Americans did not like the Washington team because the owner was a racist. He refused to sign any black players to his team.
@@corvus1374 You said that the Boston Braves are in Atlanta. Your explanation made it sound as if the football version of Boston Braves are in Atlanta now.
Yes, Washington Redskins was controversial (and increasingly so). The team dropped the name several years ago and started going by the generic "Washington Football Team" (which I called the "Wifties"). They unveiled a new name just a year ago or so and are now the Washington Commanders.
And tailgating was first done in Wisconsin way back in the early days because people would travel far to see a game and needed to eat. The Packers were also the first team to have a PA system and the first to install lights.
You might have heard about the Atlanta Braves. That is a Major League Baseball team. The DC owner recently changed the DC team name and logo. There’s also interesting history surrounding NFL films.
The 1st college football game was played in 1869, the same year as the first professional baseball game. The NFL didn't become the most popular sport in the U.S. until the mid-1970s.
The Boston Braves were named after the baseball team of the same name, which is probably why you've heard of it. The baseball team later moved to Milwaukee and then later to Atlanta.
The NFL as you see grew out of what we might call "semi-pro" or factory teams. Making (and keeping) a league going was the next step. College Football had been big for 30-40 years already, and the NFL tried to keep from grabbing college players who had eligibility (which isn't to say plenty of them would sign on to semi-pro teams for a few bucks as "ringers"). John "Blood" McNally (an early star for the Packers) got his nickname when he and a teammate did precisely this. They took their aliases from a Rudolph Valentino Film that was showing, he was "Mr. Blood" his friend was "Mr. Sand". The big moment for the NFL was when Chicago signed Illinois Star Harold "Red" Grange to a contract in 1925 and playing a barnstorming schedule of 19 games in 2 months (some league others not). Grange (and his agent) got half the gate, and drew huge crowds (the game against the brand new Giants helped get the Giants on their financial feet, getting a team into New York was a big deal (media). BTW the Bear's colors (dark blue with Orange markings) are an inversion of the University of Illinois (Orange with blue). Bears founder, owner, coach, and occasionally player George Halas was like Grange an Illini alum. Staley was a cornstarch manufacturer just down the road in Decatur, who sponsored and then sold the team to Halas on a promise to keep the company name for one year.
My family is mixed Native and white and many of us loved the Skins. Haven't watched a game since they changed. More of a soccer fan now since our team is gone.
You should really check out Canton, Ohio. Home of both the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the longest running football rivalry in the country. The Massillon - McKinley high school football game has happened every year since 1894. It's a BIG. DEAL.
Hell yeah! The War of 1894! At one point there was a case of people actually betting their house on the outcome of the annual high school game. So much football history in those 2 towns. The first forward pass completion in a professional game was made in Massillon in 1906. And of course, the founding of the NFL in Canton in 1920. Massillon's head coach Paul Brown brought the game into it's modern era--inventing the playbook, game film, the facemask, the pocket (that protects the QB) etc etc. Canton McKinley's Marion Motley permanently broke the color barrier in pro football when Paul Brown signed him to the Cleveland Browns in 1946, a year before Jackie Robinson did it in baseball. So yeah, It's a huge rivalry between the royalty of HS football. I don't know if it's still he case, but for decades that rivalry game was the only regular season HS game that had betting lines in Las Vegas.
Major League Baseball's San Francisco Giants used to be New York Giants, and the Atlanta Braves were the Milwaukee Braves, who were the Boston Braves before that.
American sports teams being linked to cities to the extent it was a big deal when they moved DID become a thing. It just took longer. That didn't stop moves (although they slowed down) but a trend of cities fighting to keep (or ACQUIRE) teams became a core part of the process. A deeper dive into both football and baseball history and you'll find out about huge deals where cities built stadiums FOR teams (or subsidized huge amounts) to keep or "steal" teams.
You should watch the history of Jim Thorpe and react… fascinating man who dealt with so much adversity including having his cleats stolen at the Olympics. He found 2 different sized shoes in the trash and he won 2 gold medals in those random shoes.
And when he died his family needed money to bury him so they sought out towns willing to change their name and pay them to allow him to be buried there. That is why he is buried in a small coal town in the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania (previously named Mauch Chunk).
12:00 - Funny you mentioned that. Native American mascots are fairly common in all American sports, but while names like "Brave" or "Chief" or specific tribe names have always had positive connotations, other names for natives have either come from dated slang or outright racial slurs. Washington finally acknowledged how strong the backlash to the "redskin" name had grown in modern times and ended usage of the name not long after this video was made; first temporarily operating as "the Washington Football Team" while they decided on a replacement mascot, and now taking on the name "Washington Commanders."
Boston already had a baseball team called the Braves which has since moved to Atlanta. Another example of football glomming a baseball name from the national pastime.
Really cool video. I live in Pittsburgh so obviously a life long Steelers fan. You asked how long baseball has been around. It started in 1876 so about as long as your English Football.
Oh dude , u broke my heart ,stopped the vid ,With the pic of the Old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, Ironic cause around here us fans always say there's always next year ! I hope it won't take that long! 😂
Bronko Nagurski, who was once considered to be the strongest man in the NFL, left Pro Football to become a professional wrestler... because that's where the "big" money was.
It is crazy how many had baseball team names. I guess copyright lawers were not as big a thing back then. I live in Cincinnati and never knew we had a football team called the Reds. I only know we ended up getting the Bengals when Paul Brown basically was shoulder checked out of the original Browns organization (now the Ravens). Bad blood in our division goes beyond the actual games to the owners and fanbses (I assume Cleveland fans hate the Ravens org for moving the team).
Pottsville, Pennsylvania, is a small city in the lower elevation of the Appalachian Mtns, appx 95 miles NW of Philadelphia. Pottsville, PA, is the home of the D.G. Yuengling & Son, Inc aka Yuengling Brewery "America's Oldest Brewery". Family owned & operated since 1829. Six generations, each new generation Yuengling purchases the business from the generation prior. Regarding the Frankford Yellow Jackets, the narrator didn't really mention it correctly. Frankford had been its own town, but by the time of the Yellow Jackets founding, it had been annexed into Philadelphia as a neighborhood of Philadelphia for appx 45yrs & not a separate city or town. So, the Frankford Yellow Jackets were located in Philadelphia, just named for a neighborhood of Philadelphia.
When teams move, even teams we don't care about, we hate it too. I'm not a Browns fan but I hated how the owner moved them to Baltimore. St. Louis - I couldn't care less, and the Rams didn't even belong to them from the beginning, but still, I think it was extremely unfair for them to lose the Rams and have no team. I wish the whole thing would be banned - if you own a team and want to have it somewhere else, sell it and ask the league to expand! It's basically one spoiled owner putting his interests over everyone else's. So it's not like we get it and you don't - I think most people think it's sick.
Fun Fact. The last time the Pittsburgh Steelers fired their head coach was in 1969. Up to that point, the Steelers were considered to be the worst team in the history of the NFL. Suffice to say, things changed for that franchise after hiring Chuck Noll. Their current head coach (Mike Tomlin) wasn't born until 1972.
Hey there, Joe. Couple things. First, the Washington Redskins change their name to the Washington football team then the Washington commanders because of cultural appropriation, in the fact that people who didn’t even support the Redskins to begin with got offended. Next, I think you’d enjoy reacting to some MLS videos. The top 100 goals of the 2022 MLS season by crossbar TV is a great starting point. It’s only 15 minutes. Here’s the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qJW2IB7y8Kk.html
It's funny that the Detroit Lions wanted to be the "monarchs" of the league because they were the first team to go 0-16. (They were not the first winless team. That would be the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers.)
Long time viewer, first time commenter. Finally hit the subscribed. Happy to see you and others gain appreciation for American football. Myself, I'm looking to gain appreciation for global football so mirrored journeys. Cheers mate!
Speaking of moving teams, after owner Art Modell moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore, Maryland (now the Baltimore Ravens), Ohio passed a law called the 'Art Modell' law that says any team receiving any public funds cannot move that team unless they first offer it for sale to local owners. This is what saved the Columbus Crew (one of the original MLS teams) from being moved to Austin, TX (along with huge local support for the Crew).
If you do a Packers video you have to do a Bears video. It's the law. Also Major League Baseball started in l876. First mention of "baseball" goes back to the late 1700's (like 1790ish?)
Baseball has been around since the 1850s in Cooperstown New York but there’s actually evidence that suggests that the sport was invented Canada even earlier
lol yeah, small towns having NFL franchises was way more common back then Places like Pottsville, PA and Portsmouth, OH are like the equivalent of Accrington and Ipswich in the UK Today, the Green Bay Packers are the lone “small town NFL team”
Major League Baseball has existed since 1870. The first professional league was the National Association (1870-1875). The top clubs in th NA formed the National League of Professional Baseball Clubs in 1876, which will begin its 148th season at the end of March. The NL is the oldest professional sports league in the world. The Atlanta Braves and the Chicago Cubs are the two oldest baseball teams, both charter members of the NA in 1870 and the NL in 1876. The Braves were orginally in Boston (1870-1952), moved to Milwaukee in 1953, then to Atlanta in 1966.
A lot of teams back then named themselves after the local baseball teams. The Boston Braves(baseball) later moved to Milwaukee, then Atlanta where they currently are. The New York Giants(baseball) later moved to San San Francisco. The Washington Redskins are currently called the Washington Commanders.
You probably want to do the Full History of The Green Bay Packers. One of the Longest Franchises in The NFL, in the Smallest City and is owned by the Fans and Not a Billionaire Owner. Also, the Packers have won the most Championships including the First Two Super Bowls ( the Super Bowl trophy is named after their legendary coach Vince Lombardi) and the most games in NFL History.... They Also have the Most Players in the NFL Hall of Fame...
It's hard to say how long baseball has been around, because it developed slowly over a long period of time from other games like town ball and one o'cat. Some version of it was played in the 18th Century, but we don't know what the rules were, or how similar it was to today's game. In 1845 a club in New York established the Knickerbocker Rules, from which modern baseball was descended (although those rules are different from today's in some big ways). The first professional baseball team was the Cincinnati Red Stockings, who were formed in 1869 and would travel the country challenging local teams to games. The first professional baseball league was the National Association, which was founded in 1871. The National League, which still exists today, was founded in 1876. The Washington team has changed its name to the Commanders.
This video is a few years out of date. The Washington Redskins officially changed their name to the Washington Football Team in 2020, and then to the Commanders in 2022.
Remember College Football is the core and your school isn’t going anywhere, just a change in division. The NFL has to make money to pay players and teams need a lot of fans. In America it’s your high school team, Friday night, college Saturday and NFL Sunday and most states don’t have a team because the college team is king. The NFL is kinda like the champions league and the top 5 leagues in Europe are like college football. The NFL isn’t as big in the south, we have the SEC. The NFL is mostly for the big cities and college is our World Cup because it’s state vs state
The Redskins were a controversial name for a very long time. The Washington D.C. team maintains the maroon and yellow colors but they are now known as the Commanders. Washington did win three Super Bowls between 1982-1991 as the Redskins.
The chargers are very much a team without an identity. Even though LA is very close to San Diego in terms of sports the two cities might as well be a world apart. A lot of San Diegans, like my father, refuse to root for the team because of their owner. He tried twist around events to make the move look like SD didn’t want them. He even went so far as to root against SD during the baseball playoffs (the Padres are the only major league team left in San Diego) when they played against the LA Dodgers. Nobody in LA cares about the chargers and many in SD refuse to root for them
My favorite NFL team is the Pittsburgh Steelers. I am wearing a Steelers jacket. They won 5 Super Bowls which is a the championship game when both the AFC champion and the NFC champion meet for one game. Before that there is the playoffs where teams wih the better records from each division play games in the division to see who moves up. One team from the AFC and the NFC then play in the Super Bowl.
Trivia MLB cardinals got its name the same way.the first MLB game was in 1871,MLB giants are now the san Francisco giants.Atlantas MLB team is the braves.
“The city of Frankford” is IN the city of Philadelphia. It’s a neighborhood in the northeast section of the city. Frankford isn’t a city, but inside a city.
Even in the 1970s NFL players would have offseason jobs. Even Roger Staubach, who was a top quarterback for the Cowboys. In the off-season he was in real estate sales. After football he started his own real estate company, and a couple decades later he sold it for something like $600 million.
Kate Mara, the actress is actually from the same family that owns the New York Giants, established by her great- great Grandfather Tim Mara, niece of the current owner.
They're also part of the Rooney family of Pittsburgh, her sister is Rooney Mara, although her actual first name is Patricia, she goes by her middle name.
They move around because of money. Plain and simple. The owners own the teams and can do whatever they want with said team, however, any moves now must be approved by the NFL and majority of owners. The Raiders used to be in Oakland California, then Los Aangles Calofornia, now Las Vegas Nevada. Sometimes owners just want a new stadium amd that requires city approval, sometimes the cities don't want to make that investment, so they either find a sponsor who will or they move so they can build a new stadium. The Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta maintained its original shape, however because the city would only fund part of the project leading to a giant Mercedes logo on a grey building (the hub cap), the original color of the building design before the change in funding had it as a red color building with the roof being a red semitransparent material, which would have made it look more like a rose from above~
The reason the Cleveland Rams moved after winning the 1945 Championship is that the All American Football Conference (AAFC) had already been formed to start play in the fall of 1946, and Paul Brown had already been named as GM and Coach of the Cleveland team. The interest in Paul Brown, who had coached high school football in Ohio and had coached Ohio State, was so great, that without yet playing, the Browns were more popular than the Rams, and Dan Reeves, their owner (not to be confused with Dan Reeves the Cowboys RB and later Head Coach of the Broncos and Falcons), decided to move. Furthermore, not the only time this has happened. In 1962, the AFL's Dallas Texans, who.were out-drawing the NFL's Dallas Cowboys by 500 fans a game, won the AFL Championship, then moved to Kansas City to become the Chiefs, because owner Lamar Hunt realized that Dallas was not a big enough market for 2 pro teams.
The Boston Braves are another franchise that tried to steal some of the spotlight from a more popular local baseball franchise. The Braves are a major league baseball team that started in Boston way back in the 1800s, then moved to Milwaukee, and finally to Atlanta in the 1960s.
"Redskin" is seen as derogatory.... Similar with the term "Indian." Like some teams are named after actual tribes, like the Fighting Sioux, Illini, Seminoles, etc... which is more of a homage than a general term. The name was pretty divisive... The owners refused to change the name for years... and then eventually became the Washington Football Team... and now the Commander (but that could be changing again)
the washington redskins are now named the washington commanders also know as the washington commandos in 2020 they were forced to change their name because of all the blm stuff, the mlbs cleveland indians had to be changed to the cleveland guardians. Yet they still leave the chicago blackhawks(nhl) and the atlanta braves(mlb)
Wow this is fascinating!! I’m learning a lot. I suppose I should’ve known more of the history, but even though I’ve watched football all my life, I still don’t know all the rules. Like you, I’m laughing at some of the names 😂. I’m a Pennsylvanian but have never heard of the “Steagles “! As for the name Redskins, I don’t think the owner meant disrespect at the time, as he was expressing a liking for the Native warriors. Today, though, the name is considered offensive and it has been proposed to change it.
I agree with you about franchising. It feels wrong. I understand that the league wants to control how many teams exist and if certain teams aren't being properly supported, then they might need to move, but they should have to change their name. I'm spoiled growing up in DC, we've always had our team (in my life) but if they moved they should be forced to change their name and not act as if it's the same franchise. Example, Maryland is famous for horse racing, hence the name, the Baltimore Colts. That team packed up and moved to Indianapolis and continues calling themselves the Colts. They even claim the team's records from when they were in Baltimore. It's just wrong.
It did, but this was on a much smaller scale and a couple of years after they moved to MK they Renounced the club history and heritage of what was Wimbledon who then went on to create a new Wimbledon team starting from the bottom of the football pyramid. Very similar though!
10:08 this video is outdated because a year later they were forced to change theyre name they even lost naming rights to they're stadium and everything they have changed the name to the commanders