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How F1's 2021 ground effect differs from its fearsome predecessor - Chain Bear explains 

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Chain Bear's latest video takes a look at the latest details we've seen from Formula 1 about the plans for its 2021 rules revolution - specifically the return of ground effect aerodynamics. The approach developed by Lotus towards the end of the 1970s proved so effective that it was banned after just a few years on safety grounds. Chain Bear explains how the concept works, why it was so dangerous in the past, and how its reintroduction will be managed differently to prevent a repeat of the frightening breed of cars that were produced last time around

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@cloverhal2284
@cloverhal2284 4 года назад
This has to be the most excited I’ve been for future regulations
@Pilsnor
@Pilsnor 4 года назад
CloverHAL i agree but as always with new regultions im sure it will make its own challenges, it is always hard to predict (even for engeneers) how it is going to perform in races. I almost can’t wait to see it in action 🏁
@Parkie355
@Parkie355 4 года назад
Same. Just hope teams don’t interfere too much and the regs get too watered down. Does anyone know what’s happening with the engine regs aswell?
@JS-ob2xt
@JS-ob2xt 4 года назад
As I am but I'm scared the FIA will find a way to ruin it
@JakubValovic
@JakubValovic 4 года назад
@@Parkie355 & @Starscream_xxx Also, they should be able to rev engines higher by 3-4k
@Maky313
@Maky313 4 года назад
Same! : )
@Joshsartvideos
@Joshsartvideos 4 года назад
who called it ground effect and not "downfloorce"?
@galis4383
@galis4383 4 года назад
No shitty puns, get out
@IchiroSakamoto
@IchiroSakamoto 4 года назад
Galis why so mad?
@tjgriffiths6856
@tjgriffiths6856 4 года назад
Josh Philpott I rate this 👍🏻
@joshtiel2980
@joshtiel2980 4 года назад
I approve of what you have done here 👏👏😂
@TRBNTR98
@TRBNTR98 4 года назад
You heard chainbear mispronounce it in the video, we get it.
@AtrolinK
@AtrolinK 4 года назад
Things to do before dying: - travel the world - play bannerlord - watch 2021 cars running
@jerrysmith3017
@jerrysmith3017 4 года назад
Hadn't heard about Bannerlord, until I read your comment. Guess I'm adding Bannerlord to my Bucket List Too!
@azharfikri8446
@azharfikri8446 4 года назад
Hope you keep healthy until 2021 and beyond, my friend..
@samualfartinson7437
@samualfartinson7437 4 года назад
One of those has gotten ticked off
@somerandomdudeable
@somerandomdudeable 4 года назад
You'll have to wait till 2022, sorry bud
@Volan21
@Volan21 4 года назад
How can you sad react a YT commentw? We´re gonna have to wait another year
@JagoBridgland
@JagoBridgland 4 года назад
i'm no aerodynamicist but this video was so well explained i kept thinking "oh okay that makes sense"
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes 4 года назад
lol thats actually pretty basic stuff, the hard part was getting the idea
@alasdairduncan3
@alasdairduncan3 4 года назад
@@Moonlakes The hard part is making it work in real world conditions (with corners, gusts, turbulent air) rather than just in laminar flow in a wind tunnel.
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes 4 года назад
@@alasdairduncan3 no we were just talking about the theoretical part, not the practical, but besides of that you are right.
@jamielonsdale3018
@jamielonsdale3018 3 года назад
Sadly, with F1 being so complicated, that probably just means we didn't actually understand anything they were saying. I think the only thing more complex than F1 at this point is quantum mechanics. That is actually the field that made famous the expression 'If you think you finally understand it, you haven't understood anything.'
@celsohernandez9655
@celsohernandez9655 2 года назад
@@jamielonsdale3018 Well as an airline pilot I find these concepts very basic, mostly because we had to study them in performance and principles of flight back in the day. But you have a point, most people dont have the chance to learn about it. Stay strong 💪
@erikkz
@erikkz 4 года назад
Hail to the mighty Chain Bear!
@davyvanderschoot6406
@davyvanderschoot6406 4 года назад
He's a legend
@skrlaviolette
@skrlaviolette 4 года назад
I heard a lot about the 2021 rule changes, but till know I didn't know, that unsprung aero will become partially allowed o0
@oscarshen6855
@oscarshen6855 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure the somes teams with find a way to by-pass these proposals and come up with something totally different.
@brends4less661
@brends4less661 4 года назад
And boy can't I wait for that
@mrid5850
@mrid5850 4 года назад
That's why they are proposals, the FIA have gathered a team of rule busters specifically employed to find loopholes, in order to eliminate those loopholes. Though I do hope F1 will retain some engeneering freedom and will not slowly turn into a stock series.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 4 года назад
@@mrid5850 Agreed. I like the idea of close racing but not at the expense of spec. Why they don't just free it up but add suspension and aero body contingencies, it's beyond me. Good luck to the teams looking for a work around here.
@Formula1Madx
@Formula1Madx 4 года назад
@@mrid5850 They are trying to plughole the loophole
@shawnwalsh2060
@shawnwalsh2060 4 года назад
That's kind of the point of F1 man
@daaknait
@daaknait 4 года назад
Getting rid of DRS and the ridicilous wing structures? Sounds plenty good.
@gabor6259
@gabor6259 4 года назад
Ridiculous? Complicated wings looked better imo.
@alexeimscruz2893
@alexeimscruz2893 4 года назад
and also those hideous nose cones
@WideAwakeViking
@WideAwakeViking 4 года назад
In addition, I'd bring back the late 1970's / early 1980's side pod shapes for added safety and better aesthetics / more bilboard space for sponsors, and go back to low noses.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 4 года назад
Is that gonna improve anything?
@boltmix7294
@boltmix7294 3 года назад
@@alohatigers1199 Did you watch the video? Everything will be improved
@ludvigthebirb7131
@ludvigthebirb7131 4 года назад
i know its old news but just how cool is it, that we have an independent youtuber working with a massive outlet like Autosport?
@ivanrodriguez956
@ivanrodriguez956 4 года назад
Honestly happy for them, but to me is a bit annoying, I subbed to ChainBear and not to Autosport because I don't like Autosport videos (just preference, not bashing anyone), the thing is, I still don't want to sub to Autosport because I'm not interested in the bast majority of their videos, but I do like the ones from Chainbear... so basically I check manually, which is annoying AF, I wish they collaborated with him in his own channel.
@carmillawoo6505
@carmillawoo6505 4 года назад
@@ivanrodriguez956 Chainbear usually links his Autosport contributed videos in his videos talking on similar subject, just gotta keep watching to the end-cards :)
@cheesyriceo4
@cheesyriceo4 4 года назад
Adrian Newey must be getting excited about F1 again. Max would be smart to stay at Red Bull
@YASEEN_ZA
@YASEEN_ZA 4 года назад
Well the Mercs chassis is better than the Redbulls atm
@cheesyriceo4
@cheesyriceo4 4 года назад
@@YASEEN_ZA is it? Has Honda already surpassed Ferrari and matched Merc power? Idk thats the truth but I ignorantly doubt it
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 4 года назад
@@YASEEN_ZA That is just flat out wrong. RB have by far the better chassis. Mercedes just did a good job with the aero. Bad Chassis + Good Aero = Horrific Tire Wear (chassis ain't up to scratch so aero picks up slack, putting more stress on the tires). And that, my friend, is why Ferrari and Red Bull aren't dealing with the same tire issues Merc is.
@Pyro978
@Pyro978 4 года назад
@@YASEEN_ZA Mercedes never has the best chassis. They have the best and most reliable power unit in the hybrid era. RBR probably always has the best chassis. They make every power unit look competitive. But if I were Max, I would stay put at RBR
@NathanMandjes
@NathanMandjes 4 года назад
You can turn that around: Max needs to go where Newey is going!
@clocktimezone1864
@clocktimezone1864 4 года назад
The last time I was this early Hamilton and Bottas were still 1-2 in Hockenheim
@Snaakie83
@Snaakie83 4 года назад
Yeah, I've seen this joke at least four times now. Seems like originality isn't relevant anymore. Therefore haha.
@Rak0705
@Rak0705 4 года назад
turn 16: hold my beer
@rickyrickalvous2982
@rickyrickalvous2982 4 года назад
Nice
@rocklobster3333
@rocklobster3333 4 года назад
I was at Hockenheim and wanted to look down the main straight, sadly the only seats left were looking at turn 15 and 16.
@benjamin7114
@benjamin7114 4 года назад
Not anymore , but Mercedes are still 1-1 in driver and constructor standings ;)
@jackmorby6001
@jackmorby6001 2 года назад
Your diagrams, images and animations are very explanatory. By using gifs, your commentary is made more effective, so a novice viewer can easily understand physics that, for a non-driver, may be hard to understand. This has greatly increased my understanding of F1, and the changes in 2022 that I did not 100% understand, but now have a better grasp. Thank you very much for making this video. I look forward to watching more of your content.
@avandee3878
@avandee3878 4 года назад
This is exactly what is needed for better racing.
@andrewharper4296
@andrewharper4296 4 года назад
Agreed, Indycar have had a form of this aero for years and it does mean overtaking on even the most tricky of circuits is possible. Ok, yes they are more of a spec formula but the cars can follow closer together and that's the end goal of these new rules :)
@broadytaylor9493
@broadytaylor9493 4 года назад
The team that gets the ground effect right will win the 2021 championship
@damionlee7658
@damionlee7658 4 года назад
This could be what Williams need to get themselves back up the other end of the grid for a few years.
@F-thirteen
@F-thirteen 4 года назад
I have no doubt that teams would find an aero exploit that would generate just as much dirty air today
@gigasigma8373
@gigasigma8373 4 года назад
i dont think mercedes will win the 2021 championship the real challengers can be 1. Ferrari (of course they have been in f1 the longest so they have some experience on ground effect.) 2. RedBull (they have the best aerodynamicist and thats adrian newway) 3. mclaren maybe can bounce back who knows (they too are like ferrari a long standing team that has some experience) 5. williams why not (like ferrari and mclaren they have experience in this department being a long experienced team with these things). Mercedes will struggle but they can catch up because those mfers will always cheat
@f.o.8547
@f.o.8547 4 года назад
@@gigasigma8373 did u just skip 4?
@shiniselune399
@shiniselune399 4 года назад
@@f.o.8547 Who needs a 4 anyway...
@TMJ32
@TMJ32 4 года назад
OK Autosport, don't ever upload another technical video unless Chain Bear does it.
@ehsansatti5526
@ehsansatti5526 4 года назад
Finally, "Autosport" has hired a "real analysist".
@Bahamuttiamat
@Bahamuttiamat 4 года назад
JBL is uselss.
@zNoah
@zNoah 4 года назад
"Hired", it's just an temporal contract.
@taz9609
@taz9609 4 года назад
amen to that!!!
@nes2293
@nes2293 3 года назад
Watch ChainBear’s RU-vid channel. I think it’s his voice here!
@tonytaylor
@tonytaylor 4 года назад
So aero attached to the uprights and moving with them , somewhere Colin Chapman is having the last laugh... 1.5 chassis F1
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 4 года назад
Chapman wasn't the first to do it, though. Early wings went onto uprights long before the 88, which was more a workaround of the skirt ban than an outright good idea.
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 4 года назад
@@DapperHesher Yep. Jim Hall for one
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 4 года назад
@@wingracer1614 Indeed, also a fan car before the BT46B. :-)
@mickoholland1
@mickoholland1 4 года назад
@@wingracer1614 Did Jim Halls 2J have inner and outer bodies? I know it had a fan
@Dashriprock4
@Dashriprock4 4 года назад
@@mickoholland1 no it did not
@MonoMan1
@MonoMan1 4 года назад
Did he just say "downfloorce" at 2:00? 10/10 pun if so.
@tianmoezelaar5689
@tianmoezelaar5689 4 года назад
He didn’t
@spectermakoto9029
@spectermakoto9029 4 года назад
@@tianmoezelaar5689 he did
@TheUmbrex
@TheUmbrex 4 года назад
thank god it was chainbear explaining this
@patmaher9435
@patmaher9435 4 года назад
These cars if they work as expected could be amazing and able to race closely for the first time in over 20 years
@ericfeldkamp3788
@ericfeldkamp3788 2 года назад
That ground effect might be the thing that finally keeps drivers from abusing all the curbs.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 4 года назад
Now we just pray that the FIA and F1 stand their ground against top teams who probably aren't keen on the idea of closer racing
@DeliriumTremensTWU
@DeliriumTremensTWU 3 года назад
Ferrari has vetoed this comment.
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 3 года назад
Never has been. I just watch cat weigh reduction vidro where top team ask opposition creativity to be banned
@comradetirer
@comradetirer 3 года назад
On the other side aren’t top teams the ones who are most able to make this translation
@mattharte7334
@mattharte7334 4 года назад
Excellent video, thanks for clarifying ground effect.
@richardcheatham9490
@richardcheatham9490 4 года назад
The graphics, and careful explanations in this video make it a joy to take in. Said another way- I loved it. Well done over there.
@bendaniels1214
@bendaniels1214 4 года назад
Extremely well put together and interesting video. Well done.
@Tj930
@Tj930 4 года назад
Love these "Chain Piola" / "Giorgio Bear" videos 😎👍
@shadowwsk3507
@shadowwsk3507 4 года назад
They say the car will only lost 5%of downforce That is too ambitious
@jamalthasim9041
@jamalthasim9041 4 года назад
i swr they said 20%
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 4 года назад
@@jamalthasim9041 🤣
@PragmaticAntithesis
@PragmaticAntithesis 4 года назад
@@jamalthasim9041 20% was the intention for 2019.
@xander1052
@xander1052 4 года назад
its better to be over ambitious and fall short than go for an easy goal. Why the hell would you complain about Ross Brawn trying to make the regulations be as good as they can possibly be for racing.
@brzy1188
@brzy1188 4 года назад
@@xander1052 This. Even if he fails miserably and they lose like 200% more downforce than is targeted.. so roughly 15% loss opposed to targeted 5% it is still a massive improvement on the current 45%, I just hope sufficient testing is done before they remove DRS (which I actually don't like btw as it's artificial but until this is proven to work I would be careful to just dump it in case it negates the improvements)
@biser1
@biser1 Год назад
So well put together, great video to explain this
@ianstewart5840
@ianstewart5840 3 года назад
The animations on these videos are so painfully simple, yet extremely effective
@elevenocean4471
@elevenocean4471 4 года назад
F1 should start working with you to explain these concepts to fans
@apophisstr6719
@apophisstr6719 4 года назад
The 2021 cars are gonna look fantastic with the sleeker and simplified bodywork designs.
@benzflynn
@benzflynn Год назад
2:47 I think you need to explain why speeding up the airflow leads to a drop in pressure. Non-technical people may feel it is not quite so intuitive to conclude this, I think. Simplistically people might think the "squeezing together" of the airflow would densify the air and make its pressure rise according to the p = rgh formula, where p is static pressure, r is the fluid density, g is the gravitational constant and h is the height of fluid above the pressure probe. (Weather presenters often quote this formula so it is known to many) Of course in fact air is not very compressible so the density won't change that much at the throat. The real reason for the pressure drop at the throat is the interplay between fluid pressure, speed and vertical level along a streamline. Bernoulli derived an equation for this: p/rg + sqr(v)/2g + z = constant. This implies that as the velocity of air increases along the same horizontal streamline, its (static) pressure decreases.
@solflare101
@solflare101 4 года назад
Great video, very well researched and presents the info in such plain language. nice
@bobbyrandom5595
@bobbyrandom5595 3 года назад
As a graduating ME student, I really appreciate the perfect balance in your explanations between technical info and simplicity. Gorgeous graphics and great pacing in all of your videos. Really enjoying all of your content. Thank you!
@rafaelleal2153
@rafaelleal2153 3 года назад
same
@paolobramucci3609
@paolobramucci3609 4 года назад
Good explanation of the new design rules. I look forward to seeing this implemented. Hopefully, it will work as expected and make passing less artificial and more the result of grip, power and driver skill in making the best of it and another driver’s errors. DRS tends to make passing another car more of forgone conclusion. While I understand why DRS was necessitated due to the over reliance of wings to create downforce, it always seem to be a very flawed bandaid solution to the problem.
@gianmariascremin7917
@gianmariascremin7917 Год назад
Great video, the explanation was simple but not superficial, very nice
@RolePlayingGamer92
@RolePlayingGamer92 2 года назад
Me watching this in 2022.. you basically predicted what the cars would look like with your drawing at the end of the video, great job 😄👍
@Synystr7
@Synystr7 4 года назад
F1 2021 is gonna be like mid to late 90s champ cars with those floors. This is gonna be sick
@Zestyclose-Big3127
@Zestyclose-Big3127 4 года назад
inb4 we get a "Monaco Racing League"
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
@mitchell-wallisforce7859 4 года назад
Now all we need is a non-championship oval race to see if we can go all the way with ths CART thing. That drawing, for one, makes me very excited.
@recipoldinasty
@recipoldinasty 3 года назад
Mitchell-Wallis Force ovala are trash lol
@noviceracer114
@noviceracer114 4 года назад
FIA : Were bring back ground effect DRS : Am I a joke to you ? FIA : Yes , now jog on LMFAO
@damionlee7658
@damionlee7658 4 года назад
FANS: Also yes. The sooner you're gone and replaced with a real solution, the sooner we can get back to more dramatic close racing and exciting overtaking at tracks that are currently processional ... Don't let the wheel gun hit you on the way out.
@damionlee7658
@damionlee7658 4 года назад
@Star Saber that's a completely meaningless response you have there... DRS is objectively bad for the sport. It was always a stop gap measure which was only ever going to be around until the aero issue was resolved. It goes against a long tradition of the FIA's policy against active aero, and never really achieved what it set out to do anyway. Passing under DRS is rarely exciting. You can suggest I am being salty, you can suggest some "fanboi" take on the situation. Meanwhile, I will suggest if that really is the best comeback you could think of, perhaps you should sit down before you exert yourself ;)
@Dogman36
@Dogman36 4 года назад
the FIA: here is literally a track corner designed for passing in which we hold your hand throught the process, also heres flappyboi we previously banned but now have total control of. fans and drivers: but we didnt ask for that specific banned thing to come back. that was more Can-Ams thing anyway. FIA 10 years later: hey we um finally got around to reading your suggestions. sorry bout that, here's the real banned item coming back
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
Henry Callahan As far as I can recall, ground effect in Can Am never got beyond having two snowmobile motors on the back of the car. It was never a Venturi effect.
@leonardodeslf
@leonardodeslf 4 года назад
Those are completely different things my friend... - GE makes use of the vacuum generated by the difference of pressure to "stick" the car to the floor. - DRS prevents the air flow to "hit" the tail and stop the car. Both can coexist without affecting each other.
@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab 4 года назад
Good summary and explanation. Thanks. 👍🏻
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens 4 года назад
I waited 12 days for this to be on Chain Bear's channel but I guess I'll have to watch it here now.
@blackflagqwerty
@blackflagqwerty 4 года назад
I'm putting my money on RedBull for 2020.
@prozoomy3588
@prozoomy3588 4 года назад
max shall lead us to victory ☺
@Formula1Madx
@Formula1Madx 4 года назад
2021 maybe, not 2020.
@psquared518
@psquared518 4 года назад
I think people are starting to underestimate how good those merc cars are on a good day. They have only had two bad races this year and DOMINATED everything else. Red Bull and Ferrari aren’t as close as it seems.
@pineappleracing6547
@pineappleracing6547 4 года назад
@@psquared518 same was true for Redbull 2010-13 and Ferrari Scumacher Era but now they are nowhere near that.
@TestarossaF110
@TestarossaF110 4 года назад
if they can keep newey and honda going like theyre now 2021 will be a great season hopefully 2020 will still be fun with most teams looking further ahead.
@jamsbong
@jamsbong 4 года назад
Chain bear just hinted that DRS could be eliminated! That will be awesome and history will remember current F1 as the dark days of artificially enhancing overtaking rules.
@tarmacterrorist.thepotato
@tarmacterrorist.thepotato 3 года назад
Brilliant stuff, thankyou so much. Subbed!
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 4 года назад
Diffuser skirts attached to the suspension arm / brake duct structures is the kind of exotic yet philosophically simple(?) space magic F1 needs. Watching the slow motion shots of of these things plowing through kerbs is the kind of thing that would make us racing fans moist.
@JoeGraham11
@JoeGraham11 4 года назад
These videos are exceptionally good.
@FRailFan
@FRailFan 4 года назад
Just remember Villeneuve vs Arnoux 1979 French Grand Prix. That's the type of racing ground effects can cause.
@jamesstewart1794
@jamesstewart1794 4 года назад
I would not assume anything this early on.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 4 года назад
that's the goal...that would make F1 very watchable again for certain.
@FRailFan
@FRailFan 4 года назад
@@jamesstewart1794 I mean there was damn good racing throughout the entire ground effects era.
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 4 года назад
Fantastic video. Keep up the good work.
@gregahunt
@gregahunt 3 года назад
incredible job explaining this! high marks
@baldygrey2779
@baldygrey2779 4 года назад
I'm excited for it. "Make F1 competitive and entertaining again."
@Akira-sn8yy
@Akira-sn8yy 4 года назад
Guys I really hate that plate cover on the rims. Hope that they will not include in the regulation.
@nicoofthenight8403
@nicoofthenight8403 4 года назад
Maybe some cars will have it, brawn had them but I think brawn had them right
@egj1975
@egj1975 4 года назад
From now on... let Chain Bear do everything. This was awesome !!
@mitevm
@mitevm 2 года назад
This needs reupload. It is so much more relevant now. Thanks!
@KompletterGeist
@KompletterGeist 4 года назад
I hate how the ground effect term is thrown around with ignorance in forums and on csome yt channels Ground effect is not banned...because diffusers are still legal and the floor still produces over 50% of the cars downforce. What IS banned are sealing devices such as sliding skirts which would drastically increase the amount of downforce from the diffuser
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 4 года назад
This is true... sorta... it wasn't so much the banning of skirts, but the mandatory flat bottom regs. The cars right now, and since flat bottom sections were mandated, are very much still using ground effect to create downforce... heck, the underside of the front wing is working in ground effect on it own and isn't part of the floor.
@ryanlee315
@ryanlee315 4 года назад
No more vortices flying off rear wings? Those look so good on tv
@12th.jahlil
@12th.jahlil 4 года назад
Not as good as the battles that are about to happen
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
Those will still be there, just a lot smaller. Wingtip vortex size is related to both the wing size and the amount of lift/downforce being generated.
@redracerbooks9661
@redracerbooks9661 2 года назад
Really great explanation of ground effects! Love it!
@cadflo
@cadflo 3 года назад
I'm so obsessed with ground effect, I've watched this video more times I can admit. Great vid.
@Vriheddd
@Vriheddd 4 года назад
We need Lotus back in F1
@Miguel-ch5ld
@Miguel-ch5ld 4 года назад
Thanks for this😁 I just hope the proposed changes actually work the way they're expected. Close racing is what we want😁. Also, is there any news on the engine regulations to be used for 2021?
@dylanbolton5208
@dylanbolton5208 4 года назад
Miguel Enriquez no expected change sadly so still 1.6L V6 hybrids
@oharryc
@oharryc 4 года назад
They will remove some of the electronic parts of the engine and open the turbo wastegates so you can hear the turbo + bumping the max rpm up by 3000 rpm which will make it sound better
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 4 года назад
Power-train remains the same except with EOT standardised gearbox.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 4 года назад
@@oharryc Pretty sure that's been done.. 🤔
@kraftwels
@kraftwels 4 года назад
The mgu h will be gone and the single turbo will be swapped for a biturbo
@HappYinc
@HappYinc 4 года назад
i've seen the term before but never really knew what it meant, thanks for the video ^^
@strokeracer
@strokeracer 4 года назад
Great video Chain Bear! CAn I ask whatsoftware do you use for your animations?
@egsmachine
@egsmachine 4 года назад
while closer racing is the objective, it never seems to either last, or be truly realized as two or three teams run away from the field.
@zarategabe
@zarategabe 4 года назад
That is why the FIA will eventually have to enforce budget caps so that it's not just the richest teams building the best cars year-in-year-out.....
@Starfire_Storm
@Starfire_Storm 4 года назад
Early 2010's was the closest we got to actual close racing, but Red Bull got away. F1 will always have 2 or 3 teams at the top, it always had and always will.
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 4 года назад
@@Starfire_Storm As long as it isn't just ONE team running away with things, I'll keep watching. The sport needs a competitive top tier of 3 or 4 teams, otherwise it's just a 200mph procession...
@eamonahern7495
@eamonahern7495 4 года назад
Ah! So that's how they're going to do it without the track damaging skirts
@rodrigolj
@rodrigolj 4 года назад
Chainbear explaining stuff with Giorgio Piola illustrations is immediate Kreygasm
@DavidHunter
@DavidHunter 4 года назад
Great video. As a long time but casual fan (I don't take notice of tiny aero package upgrades and the like) this explained it really well. F1 has some amazing talent right now and of course there has been some fantastic racing lately, but 2021 regs seems like it will unlock "real racing" again. Rather than DRS passes we should have much closer wheel to wheel racing even through corners leading to passes in new places we might have seen far less of currently. Now we can watch drivers competing even more fiercely, and one mistake will compromise you more now than perhaps in the past because your competitor will be right on your tail at all times and not hanging back to keep the superior airflow, and then relying on DRS to close the gap.
@kierenboimufc5940
@kierenboimufc5940 4 года назад
It’s all about the WEC and Le Mans 2021 with the hyper car category. the Aston Martin Valkyrie and its 6.5l v12 it’s going to be mental
@clarencedelacruz7822
@clarencedelacruz7822 4 года назад
If Ross Brawn’s study of bringing back refueling for 2021 is approved, we might see smaller cars like those back in the early 2000’s
@riccardozanetti2893
@riccardozanetti2893 4 года назад
Not really. The reason why modern f1 cars are so big is because they have to accommodate a longer wheel base (which allows greater stability at higher speed). Refueling will make little to no differences to the cars' size
@opalblue2232
@opalblue2232 4 года назад
@@riccardozanetti2893 it does effect the car size, even it doesn't do much. They have to increase the back part of the car to compensate a larger fuel tank. But I agree with the longer wheelbase thing, the front part of the car is way too long, especially the front wing. They also should decrease the size of the tires to make the car narrower.
@s.d.h.3t981
@s.d.h.3t981 4 года назад
@@opalblue2232 no
@CamelSmokes23
@CamelSmokes23 3 года назад
Great video, well thought out. This looks promising!
@Shmeegsify
@Shmeegsify 4 года назад
wow an explanation of the venturi effect that actually explained how it works. Thank you i finally understand it.
@TheUsmc0802
@TheUsmc0802 4 года назад
Sooooo, F1 just copied the current Indycar. Which is fine by me because they look great and the racing is phenomenal.
@socketuspuppetus1216
@socketuspuppetus1216 4 года назад
If Indycars have ground-effect, F1 show them how it done properly. Everything F1 does is on steroids.
@TheUsmc0802
@TheUsmc0802 4 года назад
@@socketuspuppetus1216 ummmmm, Indycar does have ground effects. The DW12 has a floor that has been nearly copied 1/1 by F1. Same for the wings
@Chuckiele
@Chuckiele 4 года назад
@@socketuspuppetus1216 Yeah the new aero kit since 2018 moved most of the downforce away from the wings and into the floor work. I guess F1 wanted to try ground effect again for a long time but wasnt sure if it was safe and now theyve seen Indycars get it to work again?
@RossMacfarlane25
@RossMacfarlane25 4 года назад
I'm feeling for the sofa team, CB runs rings around them...
@jeremyknight8569
@jeremyknight8569 4 года назад
Great video. I wish that you had acknowledged the fans that may teams were using to create suction under the body of the car. You even had an image of a red car with the fan on the back. That is a big part of the downforce ideas from back in the day. also part of why they had the big block off plates on the sides of the car. It wasn't just the venturi effect but an actual vacuum created by the fans. The image of the car with the vacuum fan is at 3:55 for those who want to see it and understand what they were doing back then.
@samhitchcock3560
@samhitchcock3560 4 года назад
What a fantastic explanation! Thanks so much!
@pork_cake
@pork_cake 4 года назад
I shall attempt to contain my excitement with cynical sarcasm: I for one welcome our new fully-unsprung "really freaking stressed out member" monocoques.
@dink7458
@dink7458 4 года назад
2:00 ...generate downFLOORce
@Fidodo
@Fidodo 2 года назад
I watched like a half dozen videos on this and this video was by far the clearest and most detailed. Most other videos didn't even explain why the new ground effect was safer. Thanks for this!
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 4 года назад
DRS is planned as a possible workaround; it has been incorporated in the design but not "activated". The place where to put the mechanism is thought of and the overall "default" wing design is easy to change to have a DRS. So it might make a sudden return between seasons. Pretty much everything i've seen from the new rules has been great.
@Bongoslam
@Bongoslam 4 года назад
Gotta stay away from them kerbs then
@saltalgilmour9745
@saltalgilmour9745 4 года назад
which is good!
@Sangamkr
@Sangamkr 4 года назад
we need grid girls back from 2021
@Julien2395
@Julien2395 4 года назад
That ain't gonna improve racing much is it
@TheGoQu
@TheGoQu 4 года назад
You are not wrong
@petertr2000
@petertr2000 4 года назад
If you want to look at pretty girls, go to google, and type "pretty girls". Sorted.
@szalonysebcio5
@szalonysebcio5 4 года назад
Anyone missing grid girls is either a 13 year old hormone buzzing prepubescent child, or a virgin 30 yo manchild. They brought literally nothing to the sport, other than being a sign of the "good-ol' 70's" where slapping a girl in her butt was considered a gentle, flirty move
@rickyrickalvous2982
@rickyrickalvous2982 4 года назад
@@szalonysebcio5 I love seeing grid girls, what am I?
@praveentitus7193
@praveentitus7193 4 года назад
That really was so informative - well done Chain Bear! I really can't wait for 2021. In fact, I've always wanted ground effect to return in some form or other. It's also exciting in WEC with the Hypercars coming in. 2021 could be the year we all remember as the year of the motorsport revolution.
@Spido68_the_spectator
@Spido68_the_spectator 4 года назад
New rules for IndyCar and NASCAR for 2021 as well😮
@buckrogers5331
@buckrogers5331 Год назад
Very well explained, thanks!
@user-no6gy9sd3f
@user-no6gy9sd3f 4 года назад
The main question is whether pirelli can produce a tyre that's work properly
@aldee7533
@aldee7533 4 года назад
I think you have the equation perfectly backward. It's up to team engineering to exploit the given tire. If the tire manufacturer is tasked with matching the tire to the car, the tire will only match ONE design and that's not a good situation
@florianreinhardt4689
@florianreinhardt4689 4 года назад
Pirelli produces tire EXACTLY how the FIA wants them. It's just that FIA asked for bullshit tyres.
@DaniMacYo
@DaniMacYo 4 года назад
This is all in theory. F1 has a great reputation of hyping us up and then the teams find loopholes and someone will dominate and we are left with the midfield fighting close while one or two teams are winning. We’ll have to wait and see. Seems interesting though. I do look forward to seeing the teams interpretations of these new regulations.
@iCubeGamez
@iCubeGamez 4 года назад
I know nothing about physics and I was still able to understand all of this. Incredible explanation, thank you!
@fonwoolridge
@fonwoolridge Год назад
Great video! Very well explained - Thanks.... (I came here via wing in ground effect research - LOL)
@marshyyboyy
@marshyyboyy 4 года назад
All of todays F1 cars currently use ground effect.
@marshyyboyy
@marshyyboyy 4 года назад
@Starscream_xxx yes they do. Sincerely, F1 Aerodynamicist.
@hoen2009
@hoen2009 4 года назад
@@marshyyboyy good joke
@marshyyboyy
@marshyyboyy 4 года назад
You clearly don't understand aerodynamics then. The front wing, underfloor and diffuser All operate in ground effect and motorsport diffusers don't work without ground effect. You should do your research
@lukasharmon4965
@lukasharmon4965 3 года назад
how does it work?
@BaranovPeter
@BaranovPeter 4 года назад
Why can't they just make a rule stating that a trailing car of predetermined design must be able to generate a set amount of downforce? That way it's up to the car manufacturers to fix the dirty air problem.
@victorshu
@victorshu 4 года назад
Chainbear is the only reason why I'm still a subscriber to this channel.
@dylansmit3883
@dylansmit3883 4 года назад
Another problem with the oldschool ground effect cars was the suspension. That was made rock hard to keep the car level and maintain the area of low pressure. As a result the cars were extremely uncomfortable to drive. Colin Chapman tried to solve this with the dual chassis Lotus 88, but the FIA was having none of it. Nice to see the lessons learned from that car are being implemented now though.
@gn0015
@gn0015 4 года назад
Ed Straw: We must not look at the past to solve the problems that we have now.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
They’re not. They’re looking at the difference between F1 and Indy.
@juleshairston7115
@juleshairston7115 4 года назад
F1 taking a page out of Indy Car's book.
@colintawn3535
@colintawn3535 4 года назад
@Jules Hairston I don't know what you're taking with your coffee but Lotus pioneered ground effect a long time before Indy car. Google is your friend :-)
@MomentousGaming
@MomentousGaming 4 года назад
@@colintawn3535 Poor Lotus, do something innovative and watch the FIA ban it for 50 years.
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 4 года назад
I remember the downforce days, don't remember seeing it at the time, but when they first introduced it had mechanics covering wings on cars to distract from real reason for corner speeds. Later there was the huge fan fitted to another car, to increase pressure differential under the car, which was like following turbo charged road gritter. But as you alluded to, safety wasn't as great a concern in those days, crashes could quickly turn fatal. But the new rules hopefully will reinvigorate the sport, while being safer for the drivers.
@hfislwpa
@hfislwpa 4 года назад
Chain bear videos are the best this channel has!
@MaximumBooger
@MaximumBooger 4 года назад
And Indycar says, "You're welcome."
@joshtiel2980
@joshtiel2980 4 года назад
Mark York and Disney says “copyright” 😂
@dez8685
@dez8685 4 года назад
If it was a case of designing a spec chassis that everyone had to adhere to, that would have been done a long time ago. The problem in F1 is anticipating where the development gets out of hand and creates turbulence. You don't worry about that in Indycar or SuperFormula.
@nastystew6942
@nastystew6942 4 года назад
So now redbull will dominate again!
@8enable
@8enable 3 года назад
CB - great work,, only question ....Suspension travel?
@alexanderalblas4559
@alexanderalblas4559 4 года назад
So excited for those rules come in to place
@rafeekgabier6603
@rafeekgabier6603 4 года назад
No wheel covers please !!! 😳😳
@rafeekgabier6603
@rafeekgabier6603 4 года назад
@@WinWall3227 True! True!
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 4 года назад
@@WinWall3227 The 2021 changes do have some form of wing cover but it's more effective to just cover it up altogether, according to Redbull.
@s.d.h.3t981
@s.d.h.3t981 4 года назад
@@WinWall3227 idc the car looks ugly
@rafeekgabier6603
@rafeekgabier6603 4 года назад
@@s.d.h.3t981 thats the picture i had in mind..that it will look bull,but im sure they will figure it out
@benji_f1363
@benji_f1363 4 года назад
I don’t want the wheel covers back. They looks so stupid, I know it’s for the aero and so on but still make it look great all around and not put some Prius wheelcovers
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 4 года назад
It motor racing, not a fashion contest. Take your purse and go back to the salon, Susan.
@benji_f1363
@benji_f1363 4 года назад
Ryan Miller well I can clearly see I’m not the only one hating them, one of if the worst ideas is those wheel covers. And one of the things if you didn’t notice was to make the cars look more appealing and the wheel covers doesn’t do that. So call it what you what sunshine people CARE about the looks not only the performance
@AFriendlyTheo
@AFriendlyTheo 4 года назад
2:47 our reliable old friend Bernoulli's Principle
@petedvorak548
@petedvorak548 2 года назад
thank you, great video :)
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