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Using completely real crowds in Hollywood productions can be a huge logistical challenge. That's why movies and TV shows have found many ways to make crowds look bigger than they are. Older movies like "Ben-Hur" used matte paintings, while movies like "Glory Road'' have used inflatable extras. Today, duplication and CGI are the most frequently used techniques. On the Apple TV series "Ted Lasso," Barnstorm VFX had the daunting challenge of filling a 26,000-seat stadium using a mix of real and fake people. As Barnstorm VFX supervisor Lawson Deming told us, it's the mix of the two that best convinces the viewer.
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@DaFuqBoom 3 года назад

They swing their hands like its some sort of a gladiator fight they're witnessing.

@shivnagammabidri1154 3 года назад

😊

@muhammadziyahudamatari5132 3 года назад

"Is not about who's win or lose It's about who's the last and survive!"

@Yamaa 3 года назад

Hmmm

@firstnamelastname6205 3 года назад

@Rjrdre 3 года назад

😂

@katarinavidovic8890 3 года назад

I'm always so surprised by how many odd jobs there are in the film industry. Imagine telling your family "I clap in front of a green screen so that someone could then place me in a fake stadium" lmao. But honestly, this is a very cool video Insider.

@yoatemybeans4164 3 года назад

first comment ig

@MarkFilipAnthony 3 года назад

Look at a the screen, pick out anything you see. Anything at all. Then realise that was somebody's job to make sure that it is there. And most likely not one person, but several people. David F sandberg, director of shazam! Has a great youtube channel breaking down the super frustrating process one has to go through during a film production

@sussus7270 3 года назад

@@yoatemybeans4164 you didnt give me permission to reply but im going to anyways

@RMSLusitania 3 года назад

@@yoatemybeans4164 ok and?

@PotaraP 3 года назад

@@yoatemybeans4164 powertrip

@trinaq 3 года назад

I had no idea that they were able to green screen an entire crowd in. I'm enlightened with how expertly the creative effects team accomplished this, so well, that you couldn't tell the difference!

@sarthaks5 3 года назад

Yup special effects crew deserve more credit!

@ME_Toons 3 года назад

Ikr

@notayetti555 3 года назад

This type of things come from a rather LONG time ago. In fact, If I remember correctly, one of the first movies to include such a huge crowd created via CGI, controlled by an AI to give them "personality" was back when the Lord of the Rings came out. You should check the BTS. It is crazy.

@popoi6427 3 года назад

I remember that north korea video how to Photoshop xD

@dyfx9788 3 года назад

@@sarthaks5 visual effects*

@ritaayt 3 года назад

Before I was small, I thought that they would hire hundreds and thousands of real people for when there’s an extremely huge audience for a drama series 😂

@Minish4rk360 3 года назад

Same

@yellomonke5080 3 года назад

Some did

@flamingoseatshrimps1361 3 года назад

Wait... before you were small?

@ritaayt 3 года назад

@@flamingoseatshrimps1361 when I was a child

@shohj6600 2 года назад

@@flamingoseatshrimps1361 ikr

@olekaarvaag9405 3 года назад

The best fake crowd ever is in the pod racing scene in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. They were literally just q-tips being blown with a hairdryer to create some movement.

@abdmin3268 3 года назад

Its really cool how the prequels background were actually miniature instead of cgi because computer can only handle little cgi at the time

@jarjarbinks9951 3 года назад

Mesa agree!!

@superman60201 3 года назад

Same with the actors

@danurkresnamurti3598 3 года назад

is this same technique for movie rise of planet the apes? who created crowd primate?

@rowni 2 года назад

I was gonna say this! 😂

@SharapovaFan 3 года назад

Why do I imagine the extras talking gibberish like in The Sims while watching this?

@kk_cats6072 3 года назад

Ugh, schaloob.

@achillesroblox 3 года назад

lol same

@malpurposes 3 года назад

@@kk_cats6072 fika gablesha:/

@kk_cats6072 3 года назад

@@malpurposes shahudi wahihi

@toledo6036 3 года назад

@@kk_cats6072 mi miyao, mi mi miyao a tao. hei

@AwesomeBoysJPTV 3 года назад

4:48 Filming tiles for an Hour and a Half just for 1 second of screen time?! Now That's Dedication

@vb8428 3 года назад

You can imagine the amount of work put into some 1 second shots in films like Mad Max and older cgi films

@ovn_tamil 3 года назад

Now imagine creating drawings every single frame which will take a few months or even years for a 5 minute clip! That's animation!

@davidswanson5669 3 года назад

Maybe now you can appreciate that movies spend $30M-$300M to painstakingly help make a story come to life and that it doesn’t all just go to making rich celebrities richer.

@vb8428 3 года назад

@@davidswanson5669 🙄

@VaricYT 3 года назад

As an editor, You'll be numb to the fact that you'll spend countless hours and thinking just for a few minutes of the project. It's about the satisfaction when your projects turns out to be what you exactly wanted or even more than what you expected. It's great

@ForteExpresso 3 года назад

😂 In India, there are already so many people that they simply use the crowd from Dharavi for shooting.

@Nugcon 3 года назад

Here in North Korea, we just force them to attend and threaten their family

@eltfhj69yt99 3 года назад

@@Nugcon u have internet access

@tobi19005 3 года назад

@@Nugcon epic method

@thinleyrigzin. 3 года назад

@@Nugcon u have done a treason u will be not spare

@PatrickJoshua 3 года назад

In my country, there are movies shot in malls where people are literally watching the actors and are seen in the final shot, probably because they have no budget to hire extras or to rent the place exclusively.

@lexluthor3890 3 года назад

This video was a lot cooler than I expected it to be.

@alexwilson1762 3 года назад

As someone who’s worked as an extra on set for a Disney movie, I can totally confirm the crowd tiling! Those shots are the most complicated and the extras are always moved around so you don’t get duplication. It’s so cool to see the other techniques they use tho!

@katboi3666 2 года назад

Oh wow what movie did you work in? And might I ask how they hired you, if you saw an application somewhere and applied then?

@gvasquez1035 2 года назад

Also curious how you got this gig!

@gueomduduto 2 года назад

@@katboi3666 agencies duh.. just search casting agencies around your town..

@watsupcaz Год назад

Wow I’m starstruck

@mutiyangpilingbabae9207 3 года назад

Salute to those people working in CGI that's a lot of effort. I was so amazed.

@alphaduck2926 3 года назад

@Rata Gurney It’s not as hard at it seems, because most of the crew knows what they are doing. The problem is having the right movie director and good actors. The film will also probably need to have a good budget to work on so that’s that.

@salcan8930 2 года назад

@Rata Gurney its super easy . . you know the raging wild fires for example.. i bet a lot of that stuff is green screened ~.~

@tessat338 2 года назад

They used crowd tiling in "Forrest Gump" for the scene at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. We filmed at the actual Lincoln Memorial but spent two days moving in blocks around the Reflecting Pool. Since we were waving protest signs, the director and assistant directors made sure that no one dropped one to the side, where it would disappear out of the shot. At the beginning of the filming, the crew was worried about the ducks swimming in the pool, which would have messed up the image and been expensive to remove. The extras suggested luring the ducks away with bread, so a couple of production assistants were tasked with getting bread from craft services and luring all the ducks out of the water. The area of the lawn where they were collected was later covered by a tile of the crowd. I was about 50 of that crowd of 40,000 people.

@ThaFinn 3 года назад

I saw a part of this movie, and was wondering. "Why is that crowd cheering so violently for so long while nothing particularly incredible is happening?" Like the audience doesn't even interact with one another. Now I know I can thank Covid.

@rincinerate3984 Год назад

It's more the choice of the producers and director because they decide what gets cut and how the film is cut. Tiling has been a thing for decades, so it's not new at all. But them choosing to have their spectators making that action has nothing to do with Covid.

@unknownunknown5822 3 года назад

I thought they just put up a flyer in a high school hall way and offered everyone who joined a Snicker's bar and a 5$ bill.

@mubx4323 3 года назад

$5 bill for every participant will be too much in the end to pay for

@pinkorange4980 3 года назад

@@mubx4323 Arent most of the time theyre volunteers?

@jameskoplin 3 года назад

@@pinkorange4980 Bingo: normally extras are volunteers, working just for the thrill of being in a movie.

@VintageFlight70 3 года назад

Some film productions actually do that, most commonly before cgi exists

@Connorallbee 3 года назад

@@jameskoplin They paid the extras for this and most other productions in the UK. It would be illegal not to in most cases. It usually pays £120 for a 12 hour day, but then there’s overtime and travel allowances etc. I didn’t work on Ted Lasso, but my agent sent me around 5 casting calls to be crowd. On another movie there must have been 250 students for most days on a 5 week shoot. Basically they spend a loooot of money and most of the time we don’t volunteer because it’s exhausting and they’re making enough money to pay us. ~*The More You Know*~

@TamilEelam1 3 года назад

Basically the crowd of Fifa games in movies🤣😂

@luyombojonathan7715 3 года назад

True

@briansegura7219 3 года назад

E..A..SPORTS WE’RE EVERYWHERE!!!

@MrBen367 3 года назад

Not at all, FIFA put less than 10% of this effort in. Any given angle you can see the same model doing the same animation at the same time, it's poor at best. These guys did an awesome job on Ted Lasso so don't insult them by comparing them to EA garbage 😂

@larrywest2406 3 года назад

FIFA doesn't even try man. There's even memes of how plastic some of the fans are coz they have different jerseys in every game😂

@TamilEelam1 3 года назад

@@MrBen367 True, I was just joking.

@MrGleeiscool 3 года назад

Glee fans look in the background of competitions they have dummies in the audience to make it feel like all the people are there and literally I’m laughing so hard

@Anzy.99 3 года назад

yes hahaha

@JDelta87 3 года назад

Very interesting to see how far technology has come for this to be possible. Crowds are one of those things that I’ve always wondered if they were real or fake in movies.

@milzambasith1250 3 года назад

2:58 "We knew that we weren't gonna see people from behind" Proceed to see people from behind

@abdullahemad9457 3 года назад

Lmao so true

@hopper6094 3 года назад

Lol

@CamJames 2 года назад

they explained that immediately after

@rhythmandblues_alibi 2 года назад

Scrolling to find someone else who noticed this 😅

@SystemCrashXD 3 года назад

I laughed so hard when the CG dude went: "OMG, THATS A SOCCER BALL IN A GOAL! IM SO FRICKING EXITED!" Me: mhm, yup. Not like your fake of anything, yup. Mhm

@nicholasparks500 3 года назад

I actually know that CG dude. His name is Chris and he is really good at what he does.

@SystemCrashXD 3 года назад

@@nicholasparks500 he did a good job!

@200odd300 3 года назад

@@nicholasparks500 ask him why he said that

@JRTIntervencion 2 года назад

@@200odd300 it's probably easier to record set moves and to imagine an scene if you're narrating it Also it seeemed fun

@noesunyoutuber7680 2 года назад

@@JRTIntervencion It's probably much easier to make a motion capture person look like they're yelling if the person doing the capture is yelling something. Just doing things is still the best way to make them look real.

@ttw-mb5zn 3 года назад

7:42 Give him a raise for his efforts 😂😂😂

@stephiskhan 2 года назад

I love that he gave himself a speaking role 😂

@shutupidiot16yearsago79 3 года назад

I didn't search this up but i always wondered how,thanks RU-vid 😌

@user-11528 3 года назад

why is this on my recommendation?

@Momo-cd5pw 3 года назад

As a background actor I was apart of a film that used 300 extras. 3 day filming 18hours the last day. Each day we lost extras and we could only fill up one section of the stadium. So they had us rotate to each section. Then the 2nd day I saw they had put cardboard people in every seat...EVERY SEAT! It was a different shot so we were lower now. Just still a cool experience!

@manasdhanpawde496 2 года назад

which movie was it??

@rincinerate3984 Год назад

Crowd shots suck to film as BG, but 18 hours makes it worth it since you're in golden hour and get your day rate for each hour past 16. Unless you're outside Hawaii or California and either have no union or a terrible union rate, then it's not worth it. If it was Georgia, their rate is based on 12 hours, so you don't even get OT until you've worked at least 12 hours. And then some places have no union protection at all, so you aren't going to get OT at all.

@kamrafilms9127 3 года назад

“Oh my god that’s a soccer ball in a goal! I’m so frickin excited” 🤣🤣

@nayeale5 3 года назад

I was in a crowd for a movie and we did several takes of the same scene but we were all moved around for each one. They then put all those takes together and they made it look like we were a big crowd. It was fun 😅

@kksuroor 3 года назад

I wouldn't have noticed any of it if I hadn't seen this... Amazing job

@j.lindback 3 года назад

Agree. People who hate on CGI don't realize that 90% of the CGI they see they'll never notice.

@SOAPMEUP 3 года назад

Ye.... definitely looking at the crowds in movies from now on 🥴😂

@roryqpotter8242 Год назад

The fact that they were never inside a REAL stadium is INSANE! I had no idea!!

@rT1WdisPtX 2 года назад

The part when they filmed the 1-second shot which took an hour and half to record was incredibly mind blowing

@rincinerate3984 Год назад

That's very short. A five second crowd pan can take two days to film if you're using real human actors.

@HistoryHouse45 3 года назад

My childhood doubt finally cleared

@nshon7 3 года назад

Love the video and the show! Having said that 7:40 is peak American take on football. 'OMG that's a soccer ball in the goal'. 🤪

@shmookins 2 года назад

I figured the crowd would be superimposed or even CG, but I had no idea the stadium itself was CG. I love it when CG is so good don't even know you are watching CG.

@grimreaper9049 3 года назад

When u reach the comments fast af but now there's no funny stuff to read :(((

@SystemCrashXD 3 года назад

True ;-;

@Tech-cy9yo 3 года назад

exactly! :(

@tiramiisu0 3 года назад

@ohno486 3 года назад

Then make one

@djcfb2889 3 года назад

In 10 years, making movies won't even require actors anymore

@mayuboeb 3 года назад

An entire movie without actors? That's impossible. Every character has to be animated then

@TheMR-777 3 года назад

We have our Animated movies

@theonlyron 3 года назад

You could do full animation with no voice acting

@TheMR-777 3 года назад

@@mayuboeb Then Leverage the Power of AI :)

@UltimateAlgorithm 3 года назад

@@TheMR-777 animated movies and games are motion captured.

@ruaamohammedabdallah9386 3 года назад

When I was a kid I liked watching horror movies. So instead of banning them, my parents used to make me watch this type of videos so I get that it's not real. I didn't break the habit 🙂🙂

@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 2 года назад

They we're probably just trying to mame You less scared, the reason parents ban horror movies is cause they áre scary after and not only while watching it, so they probably we're just making dure You wouldnt have nightmares and knew it was fake instead of trying to stop You from watching it

@ruaamohammedabdallah9386 2 года назад

@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 Yeah. Specially since I used to watch it behind their back. Not that they didn't know.

@nina.marice 3 года назад

this movies insider series really makes me want to be part of a movie team

@daetmarian 2 года назад

Salute to the behind the scenes people!

@naturistfred 2 года назад

If you had told me Ted Lasso was filmed pre-pandemic I would have believed you. Never even occurred to me that you could CGI an entire stadium. This was impressive.

@Superboy7456 3 года назад

omg how much attention to details, it's amazing!

@eeska4959 3 года назад

I remember watching the show with my parents and they wondered how they filmed the crowd during COVID. For some reason, I didn’t even bother to question it like I don’t know what was I thinking “oh they must’ve time traveled duh”

@breyer1236 3 года назад

I was an extra for a couple movies in high school. We had to bring a couple sets of clothes for a volleyball game for the different team colors and they moved us around and had us switch colors based on where the shot was.

@sleeplesshead602 3 года назад

In film industry, you could be anything. Me, as storyboard artist, have hard time to explain my job to my family. The most response I got is "you just drawing and got money?" 🤣

@Harry-rh9qc 3 года назад

That's cool! Is your job easy for you or is there like a harder part? How much $ do you earn? Sorry for the questions, you're welcome not to answer them 😁

@sleeplesshead602 3 года назад

@@Harry-rh9qc it's fun and challenging at the same time. Not gonna say it's easy job because most of it, the storyboarder has to be creative to figure out the shot or visualize from the director's treatment like the size of the shot. It's fast paced work, gotta be quick but also need to be accurate 😂 so far, I get enough paid since I've been doing it quiet long (4 years). At least, I could survive after all the chaotic 2020. 🤗

@007Julie 3 года назад

@@sleeplesshead602 you have such a cool job, thank you for sharing a little insight of it with us. God bless.

@badlydrawn7476 3 года назад

"So you just draw" :D yeah. For some reason nobody ever says 'so you just decide what punishment a criminal gets and they pay you money?'

@sleeplesshead602 3 года назад

@@007Julie you are welcome 🤗 God bless you, too.

@sydneybourne706 3 года назад

As someone who has done crowd acting during the pandemic before, I can say this is accurate

@ananananabop 3 года назад

This is really cool! Loved how clear and concise the explanations were.

@BlenderStudy 3 года назад

The best 8 minutes spent today..!! Thank you for the update, Insider..!!

@rizokahn 3 года назад

That's really impressive, but now I can't unsee it.

@crusherven 2 года назад

Yeah, I feel like now that it was pointed out, I could *really* tell the difference between that big real crowd in Ghandi, and the CGI one in Lasso.

@mirzahaseebahmad8406 3 года назад

Yo, I thought this was uploaded years ago but it's just been 2 hours

@KingofGamingAndTrains456 2 года назад

This is basically the crowds from Wii sports in movies 😂

@theboyz4571 2 года назад

Thank You for showing us this part of production, i have always wondered about this.

@sadnew3271 3 года назад

That's how man city football team upload highlights 😂

@khs_fan 3 года назад

i wonder all the time if its city but at the same time i dont really care actually 🤣😂🤣😂

@sadnew3271 3 года назад

@@khs_fan 3:55 that's city's jersey

@teruphoto 3 года назад

2:59 2 seconds later, we see them from behind 😅

@vansmena 3 года назад

Pretty sure those were real tho

@akaaoi 3 года назад

You mean the one scene they highlighted as being filmed "actually on set"?

@varshithakm8672 2 года назад

Wow! It's incredible the amount of work that goes into film making. I'd never really thought about it....

@KilmerMedia 10 месяцев назад

This is fantastic. I work with people who deliver this kind of VFX work for a living, and exactly how it gets made behind-the-scenes has been a bit of a mystery. Thanks for the thorough explainer, @Insider!

@MatrixLover07 2 года назад

"The seal clapping for food" I personally like to call them the GTA hands lol

@evangelinemira4490 3 года назад

Wow,they deserve a trophy...for all that work-

@imeldafani 2 года назад

WOWWW Insider really tells us every little detail of back-stage processes behind amazing movies!!!

@imeldafani 2 года назад

no wonder why your channel name is Insider 🤣🤣

@DonaldDork 3 года назад

OMG! That’s a soccer ball in a goal. I’m so freaking excited. Yes!

@eechenglee1369 3 года назад

"oh my god it's a soccer ball in a goal! I'm so excited!" is my new way to describe soccer lmaoo

@user-dj6sk2uo8g 2 года назад

Thank you very much for this informative video. I always wondered what tricks are used for producing realistic crowds.

@moonclayground 3 года назад

That's a lot of hardwork😊😊very informative 😊

@JohnOhkumaThiel 2 года назад

By the way, whenever you see people dancing in a scene, unless it’s a music video or the like, there’s actually no music playing. Usually we will play whatever tune is going in the scene just before the Director calls action so the actors can get the tempo and feel of the tune approximately right, but if you really watch, no one is really on the beat.

@dsimpson530 3 года назад

If I remember correctly this happened in the gotham stadium scene from the dark knight rises at Heinz Field

@fish-froggs2662 2 года назад

_"oH my gOD thats a SOCCER BALL in a GOAL IM SO FRICKING EXCITED_ _Y ES"_

@mansoorhaque3306 3 года назад

This is impressive stuff.

@NghtHwkk 3 года назад

"She was shot on a completely different continent" Oh...

@avon6020 3 года назад

With the power of editing you can have a whole army

@everytomday 2 года назад

I noticed this while watching. Still pretty impressive. Plus it's my favorite show right now!

@gershonford3513 3 года назад

As always great content

@NikhilluminatiOfficial 3 года назад

0:59 wow they could just use SO MANY people that I know :D

@henriettagabrieldivine7062 3 года назад

Stop 😂😂😂

@NikhilluminatiOfficial 3 года назад

@@henriettagabrieldivine7062 no can do 😂😂😂 xD

@DeadlyTinyOrc 3 года назад

It's almost like they didn't know about the FIFA crowds and guitar hero crowds, and crowds of zombies in literally any movie

@mollyhunter6239 2 года назад

I was thinking about this the entire time I was watching Ted Lasso! Very cool

@chavl597 3 года назад

This is mindblowing

@meh3128 3 года назад

Movie magic at its finest.

@PedroGonzalez-jz9xx 3 года назад

Omg this is cool I never knew this

@YannickFilms 3 года назад

Great video!💯🔥

@dkxly1843 3 года назад

I've been wondering about this my whole life. now it is finally answered.

@megsie1424 3 года назад

Me finish watching the full video Someone: So, how do they do it? Me: Computers and stuff.

@gendoll5006 3 года назад

I wonder for the tiling crowd thing if they could just do one section then have the extras just change their shirt or top somehow wether it’s taking off or putting on a jacket or changing their shirt, then move to the next section and it’d look like a new crowd lol. It’d be quick I would think.

@justsomerandomweeb4243 3 года назад

They actually do that

@alexromero531 3 года назад

so excited for ted lasso s2

@cucklord8106 3 года назад

so glad I found this I always wondered this

@manuelsousa 2 года назад

*CHALLENGE:* Take a shot every time the narrator says “Ted Lasso”

@Bat-lol 3 года назад

its crazy how it takes years to make movies and there only like an hour or more!!

@beyesavedjesuswillreturn6350 3 года назад

Love what you do!

@vincem2759 2 года назад

THIS is why I'm a multimedia designer. I can imagine the VFX workload these guys and gals have.

@prathashriyan 3 года назад

Eye-opener 😯

@PrimaDewi 3 года назад

I wish this trick could be applied on your wedding party guys,

@flitsertheo 2 года назад

With the bride or groom being CGI only ...

@PrimaDewi 2 года назад

@@flitsertheo because it's 2022 where you can't having a party. Except you ready for the consequence ... your partner got positive before you make her positive.

@nb08 3 года назад

Amazing insights!!

@RicardoAlex879 2 года назад

Insightful, never knew this.

@FantasKanal 3 года назад

Now I know what always felt wrong about these scenes

@Kariencksaunders 3 года назад

Had me up until " There's a soccer ball in the goal!" 😒

@rainirahmi7794 2 года назад

thank you Insider

@pranjalisharma7082 3 года назад

I was wondering about this same thing for the Live Aid scene in Bohemian Rhapsody..Thanks for making this video

@DanteYewToob 3 года назад

"We *knew* we wouldn't see people from behind" Immediately shows clips of people from behind. Ouch.

@ajclements4627 3 года назад

I’m probably the only one that still appreciates the time and work involved using real people for scenes like these.

@MatRDR 3 года назад

Yeah because with digital vfx you just click a button right? Absolutely no time and effort 🤡

@dyfx9788 3 года назад

@@MatRDR are you saying this sarcastically and if you are go and make a single animated scene not a whole movie just one scene of a digital object integrated in real footage and some green screen actors. And come back lets see if you are still a dick. And if you were being sarcastic then why tf are you being sarcastic in this situation lmao.

@MatRDR 3 года назад

@@dyfx9788 this was sarcasm. I'm an aspiring vfx artist. For me the comment was implying that somehow it required less effort to not use real people and just use compositing and cgi.

@dyfx9788 3 года назад

@@MatRDR same dude i also wanna do vfx

@MatRDR 3 года назад

@@dyfx9788 go for it! It's amazing what you can learn just on RU-vid, I mostly am practicing blender and compositing rn!