We drain and fully clean a Lada gearbox to see how far you can go when the transmission is completely dry inside. The result - further than you might expect. Our instagram / garage__54 How far can you drive with no gearbox oil?
Now it is time to fill the engine with antifreeze, fill the cooling system with engine oil, automatic transmission fluid in the brake system, and lastly brake fluid in the auto trans! Let's see how long what lasts then. Lol
It'll shift rough, blow a ton of steam out the exhaust, and eventually the coolant will boil away if the engine doesn't seize first. That'd be perfect for this channel.
@@MultiSquirty I hear screaming noises from shit cars driving in my city loud screeching noises like metal rubbing noises then again people also tend to have there wheels fall off could they be related?
@@TheAsheybabe89 From 10 to 20 grand. Most of them have a low mileage and are in pristine condition. In Russia and probably all over Eastern Europe they cost 10 times less, but in a rougher condition. In this condition as in the video you can get it for probably less than 500 USD in Russia.
Indeed it's the 2101 with the 1.2 L 64hp (1970-1983) The other models are known as: 21011 (Lada 1300) 1.3 L 69hp (1974-1983) 21013 (Lada 1200s) 1.2 L 64hp (1977-1988) As far as I know the only way you can distinguish the 2101 from the 21011/21013 is: * on 2101 the bumpers have fangs * the reversing light is placed under the bumper, instead on 21011/21013 it's placed under the right tailight * on 2101 there are no grilles on the pillars * on 2101 the reflectors are placed under the tailights, instead on 21011/21013 they're placed on top of them * on 2101 the emblem on the front grille is more rounder than the 21011/21013 which is more rectangular * on 2101 the steering wheel has chrome rings, but in this video the steering wheel was probably taken from 21011/21013. * after 1974 the warning lights on the dashboard became wider on 2101 and after 1979 the color of the speedometer panel became black instead of silver. on 2:30 the dashboard can be seen for a part of a second
I’d estimate 25 miles, had no oil in a Citroen c2 gearbox after a massive burnout put a hole in the bottom of it and it survived about that far before completely dying 😂
That is impressive! Under "normal oil leak conditions" with the lid on the gearbox and some oil film left in the gears, I bet this thing would drive for hundreds of kilometers with normal driving. Over 40 kilometers in a driftrace scenario with no oil in the thing is just astonishing!
My first car a Fiat with the 900cc Fiat 100 engine ripped its cv axle boot 500km from home and lost all its gear oil. I drove home like that as that car was barely worth the fuel in the tank. Fixed the boot and it worked just fine. Ok it was as loud as an old street car search for Munich tram p-wagen and you'll hear almost the exact sound it made. Still it worked until it ended up on the scrapyard due to rust
That's so true since I've been the second owner to an 87 dodge ram d100 with an A904 3 speed auto. My grandfather and I rebuilt the transmission and made modifications just so the fluid could get to the torque converter hub in Park since that was its main issue from the factory. It has a slant 6 225 which is amazing and runs like brand new after we cleaned and replaced vital parts on that and I painted it red and black
lol that's funny. but, the weight of a dodge is prob 3x the weight of the lada "lawnmower"... lol All that extra weight will create more friction and destroy an engine or transmission quicker without oil...
Hi guys! Loving the channel! Dean here from Johannesburg, South Africa! 2 things that you can maybe try sometime... 1 - Fill the engine right to the top with oil and run it, let's see what happens. I was always told to ALWAYS fill the oil to the right mark or it might explode if you over fill it... So give it a try. 2- Same as above, but with the gearbox all the way full... Those Ladas sure are strong!
Love you guys, you are effing nuts.Simple engineering is best, Ladas are fantastic. Not sophisticated but true work horses. Keep up the good work. Peace from UK.
I love watching this channel, I love watching all the fun things these guys do, I'm so glad they found a way to translate everything. I would truly love to meet these guys ... I think that would be a blast!
I have a crazy idea. You guys should find a company to sponsor a 24 hrs of Lemons Lada and bring it to the US and run an event. Sure it would be expensive, but the publicity for the right company would be huge. Maybe the Russian Air Force would donate a cargo plane on a friendship and goodwill mission. Ya I know crazy but the video would get millions of views. There would also be additional publicity as every Lemons race gets uploaded by multiple channels. And a Lemons car is your kind of car. You guys are naturals!
@@Boss_Tanaka It is Lemons look it up. It's a US racing series where you must prove you have less than 500 dollars in the car. Not including wheels, tires, brakes, and safety equipment. Do you really think I believe Garage54 could build a Le Mans car???! The 24hrs of Lemons is right down their ally. WOW!
My bad! I checked and you re totally right. The Lemons race is a real thing l didnt know. And it s a little about fruits , its logo is a lemon ! I live near Le Mans and l m a 24 hrs of Le Mans fan. I go there every year except for 2020 because of pandemic situation. Sorry l tried to correct you. I d like to see your brillant idea come true though, it would be fun
@@Boss_Tanaka No harm no foul. I was in the USAF in England in the 80s and bought tickets to Le Mans. I missed my bus and with 80 pounds in my pockets tried to hitch hike all the way to Le Mans. I ran out of money in Paris. It was the worst weekend of my life and the best weekend of my life. And a beautiful French lady who ran the USO in Paris saved me from big trouble with the Air Force by getting me an advance on my pay so I could get back to England. I loved your country and returned 2 more times.
Fiat gearbox designs from which the Lada one is based are outstanding. The original 124 gearbox on my 52 year old 124 Coupe remains the best I've ever driven, short, precise throws. Far better than on the new Japanese car I own, light years ahead of any US manufacturer manual gearbox I've driven. Pretty amazing really.
A long damn ways in a Ford Ranger. A few years ago I bought a Ranger that would pop out of fifth, Never cared much it was a beater and 5th was useless anyway. Drove it every day to work 35 miles one way for a few months. Decided to go see a girl I was talking to online, Going to drive from Asheville NC to Lynchburg VA so did an engine oil change and while I had it on a lift I saw the underside of the 5 speed was bone dry, no signs of any leaks.. Made it to Roanoke VA when the trans decided to lock down. When I got it home and took the trans apart it was bone dry inside and out and the teeth of the gears had grenaded. I was amazed it lasted so long. Unlike the long distance relationship that ended that day lmao.
Without watching the video I can say for a fact that a 1994 land rover discovery r380 gearbox can run exactly 14 miles with no oil. Dont ask how i know.
damn they build them strong. would be interesting to repeat the test with the final drive drained of oil to see which stops you driving first. great videos and best wishes from england
It wouldn't work if the gears are stripped from the heat and friction if the bairings collapse a bottle of oil isn't gonna fix it but good idea though probably a thicker oil would help get you home but I wouldn't recommend driving like that for long
i accidently did that before ... i engine swapped a bmw e46 316i with a e46 318 And i forgot that the previus engine owner of the 318 engine drained every liquid .... even the gearbox oil Soooooooo after swaping it i was eager to drive it and after 5 km it startet to whistle from the bearings and i actually made it home to fill up the oil and it worked for another 9000 km before the berings where shot
@@jesperviktorsson8027 It's not like he's swapping a motor from a different manufacturer. I don't see a good reason to do that except mpg or to be stealthy in inspections.
@@darenzy ya are right with that its a easy bolt on :) and yea its was a 600 euro shitbox sooooo After the first engine developed a engine knock i decided to change it because it was not worth fixing. and a good reason why the 318 was swapped into it it was easy to attach and it also had the same gearbox mount as the 316i So it was easy to slab that gearbox back on from the 316i on the 318 engine and use the old 316i engine controler sooo We edited the sofware a little to give the 318 enough fuel and just send it. Opened up the block drilled out the valves inlets a little bit reseated them engine tuned the whole thing a little cleaned it chucked it back inside and then we just send it. A bmw 316i e46 with the block of a tuned 318 e46 and a 316i gearbox so all the ratios was layed out for far less horsepower .. so yea i managed to get past every mot here in germany and never got cought even tho i had now a top speed of 240 kmh and instead of 110 hp we dyno ran it at a 190 with the modified software and new top end. Best secret mod car i have ever done and nobody has ever found out about it until it got scrapped
I personally drove a fiat ducato for work (about from 1990), we lost all the oil due to a leak, and drove all the day approx. 150 km with no oil in the gearbox (of course we didn't know).. only when we started to ear noise we realized that.. and we returned to the base anyway.. the gearbox was wining like a concrete mixer at full load!! Pooor little gearbox!!
Damn, 22.24 miles with absolutely NO gearbox oil? That's actually kind of remarkable. I wouldn't have thought that it would've lasted that long...then Ivan drove it more. Crazy.
Those Lada where Tuff as Hell but where not economic on gas, my father use to have a brand new one 1984 Lada, Signet was starting first engine turn at -35C but where Tuff to start when hot lolll. The cluster was really cool, old dial gauges, RPM. Thanks for sharing ! 👍👍👍👌👌👌🇨🇦
in the late 90's my buddy had a beater '86 Jetta with a 5spd. he had it for about 5 years and near the end he had to have the steering rack replaced because it was worn out. During the repair, the mechanic asked him a funny question... "Does your 5th gear pop out on the highway". My buddy said yup, but it was doing it since I got the car about 5 years ago. The mechanic said to him, do you know you've been driving without any oil in your gearbox, because your axle seals are shot, and the 5th gear popping out is a tell-tale symptom. The mechanic replaced the seals and filled the gearbox with oil, and my buddy drove the car for another year without issue until it was wrecked in an accident. Moral of the story? Who knows how many kilometers were done without oil in the gearbox, my fried put about 60,000km on it before the axle seals were fixed. VW made some good stuff in the 80's.
A 2001 GMC Yukon XL will idle and move in forward and reverse for 10 minute with no automatic transmission fluid, and 12 quarts of engine oil, (normally 6qt)...my brother drained the wrong plug. Was fine after, no issue
I have a suggestion for an experiment. It will primarily be a test of the viability of the Lada clutch. Procedure: • put test car into its highest gear • attempt to burn rubber (or to even get the car to move out of its own shadow) Prediction: unhappy clutch as evidenced by acrid odor emanating from the "clutch region" Extensions: • repeat experiment with a Volga • repeat experiment with a Zaporozhets 968 • repeat experiment with a BMW • repeat experiment with a Camry
I drove around on an empty gear box for 3 years. I had a tranny rebuilt in a shop. They never even put any oil in it before reinstalling it. I always thought I was just bad at shifting gears. When it finally failed, I opened the cover on it and it was full of shavings, not one drop of oil, no sludge, just rainbow colored shavings and really messed up gears. This was in a 1966 Ford F-250, had the granny low tranny. Drove probably about 50,000-70,000 miles with no oil in the gear box.
For being an older LADA that car is really clean! good headliner. Interior is mint! Paints not bad. Polish it and straighten out some panels. Replace the transmission. SHOW CAR.
the blue hue of steel appears around 300-350°C; dark blue a little less, near 260-280°C (that's on hardened steel; color is used as a visual reference guide when forging steel and "tempering" it after hardening. Varies a bit with different alloys)
blue steel, around 600 celsius... so now you have a de-hardened gearbox. Should have dropped the box in oil directly after running, then re-hardened gearboxparts haha!
I had an '84 Chevrolet Camaro 5 speed and the bearing that connects the front and tail shafts seized and It drove fine as long as you pushed in the clutch.
I think it could last even longer if you kept driving at the same gear (i believe the 4th gear is a 1 to 1 ratio, it doesn't use the intermediate shaft)
Deep Engineering: They actually have superior build quality. Duplex timing chain not a timing belt...this is just the beginning the more you delve the more delight you find...case hardened components like valves, heat-treated springs, metal clips and tabs...we use plastic wherever we can in the west. Lada does too, to be fair but not as much. I actually had a list naming 101 far superior items in a Russian Lada than a Western Ford Mondeo. BTW, I drive a South Korean KIA Optima 3, ISG 1.7TD. It has superior deep engineering, western cars have a thing called "kerbside beauty" meaning they look fabulous from the kerbside but the deep engineering is shit. A Russian built Lada has no kerbside beauty but has superior deep engineering. You dig?
@@TheGeezzer most cars made in Russia and Eatern Europe had to be overbuilt to deal with environmental conditions and poverty. But the truly baller vehicles are the trucks. The Paris-Dakar race trucks are legendary....add guns and bombs and they are milittary weapons.
@@hoost3056 You're a smart guy! Its your gene pool, the genetics, makes you a smart guy you see. You're correct with what you say. Yes, of course when we think about it....Russia, ostensibly a vast vast icy, harsh wilderness with roads, long hard roads. Not all of em fully metalled but just cut out of the sod and steppes, the plains and drifts with a single pass. Indeed a Lada would need to be built tough, hence that duplex timing chain...just for starters...
I had it happen where in 1999 I had the stick shift transmission on my Chevy serviced and I didn't realize it until years later. The shop used the wrong lubricant and it all boiled dry. The transmission began making whirring and whining noises. After having another shop replace the lubricant I put this stuff called X treme Friction Fighter in. It quieted the transmission but a few years later, the transmission failed and had to be replaced. This was interesting because I see an illustration of possibly how the transmission in my Chevy might have failed if I had done nothing.
I split my probes trans at the dragstrip and it survived that pass, and still drove me to work and back that week. 5th gear whined but other than that it wouldve went months
I had a mainshaft bearing grenade in a Hyundai Pony (weaker 5spd box - car was used for towing too) - First gear would rocket out and and make this bell-ringing sound, then I lost 2nd, and when I lost 4th I knew the box was dead. I replaced it and took the old trans apart - upon removing the cover plate, 3 bearings and parts of the bearing housing greeted me.
My dad has a Lada 2106 in pristine condition. It's in Armenia, so he never drives it because we are in the U.S. It's in pristine condition and it is beautiful in my opinion, however, there are bunch of them. Most of them are used for work and surprisingly they are still on the road till this day. I'm trying to convince my dad so that he can import it here ( I have to say they are not safe at all...)
I have driven over 120km without oil in gearbox because of fast leak. At the end it was one laud squeak :) Finally machanic reanimated my gearbox, but synchronizer at 3rd gear got stuck.
It wouldnt move at all, in automatic transmissions, the transmission fluid is actually what makes the car move. Without it, the car just wont move at all.
I was this close to say they should make more transmissions like this for modern cars! Cause I thought that synchronizer was going to last longer than that shaft.
I'm surprised it lasted that long. That noise would make me crap myself. I never had a transmission go out on me, but once had a car where a Piston connecting rod broke and piston went through the Valve cover and dented the inside of the hood.