How Fast can you Beat Pokemon Red/Blue with Just a Tauros? 

The anime made it look so easy, tho ._.

True... It was actually the last pokemon I had to get for a full pokedex back in the day I played red version.

Ain't that the truth lol

Just do the Cinnabar Island glitch to catch it. If u dont know what that is u can look it up. Cuz yes, catching Touros the normal way in the safari zone is almost next to impossible

there was a super easy way to glitch catch all (not in water) safari zone pokemon that works almost the same as missingno glitch. enter safari zone walk in grass with pokemon you want till time runs out, surf down to seafoam (i avoid trainer battles) island and surf along edge of seafoam and they will appear like normal battles.

I came here to say the same exact thing

Well its at least only 60% this time!

Came to the comments for this comment 😂😂

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Also, well known Ice type, Slowbro. But in lorelie's defense, I think the only ice type from gen 1 she didn't have was Articuno. Agatha and Lance only have 1 line of pokemon a piece for their types, so yeah Bruno ABSOLUTELY could use something better than Onix. What a loser.

Actually it makes sense, because Bruno catches a giant Onix in the anime. Nevertheless, he should have a Primeape, too

I always assumed Bruno carried 2 because the hit mom’s and the mcchamp trained on them.

@@francescotonini6268 I thought the game came first, so because Bruno used 2 onix, they had him catch the giant onix in the anime.

@@pk5727 actually, Bruno already had 2 Onix in the manga. Maybe because he trains in the mountains

nice catch

I think stats/EV stuff wasn't done live until like gen 5 or something anyway?

@@PydraxAlpta I spend almost all my time playing Gen 4 games, can confirm evs from battles don't count until leveling up. Makes ev training very funny, as the stats trained suddenly jump up ridiculous amounts

@@PydraxAlpta I believe the only exception to the rule was with Deoxys in Gen 3 and 4?

@@-Comet. did a Leaf green Nuzlocke that required me grind in route 1 with Aerodactyl, which I did after EV training it's Attack, so it was decently leveled. First level up from route 1 grinding: +24 Speed second level? Only +19 speed. Was VERY funny

in a world where special walls are also special wallbreakers thanks to a unified special stat its crazy that tauros is king and pokemon like rhydon still hold their own

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Fun Fact: during the later stages of the Nintendo Cup format: Tauros was banned alongside the other mons that are very good in Gen 1. However that lead to Persian being used instead, which many people consider a "Second Tauros" due to it's great speed and access to a STAB Slash (100% Crit as well.)

@@frozenfeet4534 Rhydon in Gen 1 is to fight Zapdos.

And sadly a good deal of stuff like that doesn't necessarily carry over into a normal playthrough of Pokemon. Hyper Beam might be great in gen 1 competitive, but in a game where you're gonna be fighting dozens of pokemon between PP restoration spots having your mainstay move have 5 PP isn't great. I'm sure it'll be good in the Elite 4 where you face trainers that are actually challenging, but for the majority of the game not so much. And when Tauros' only attacks are resisted by the first gym it's already facing a major time sink at the very start. What is good in competitive is not directly translatable into what is good in a normal pokemon playthrough.

that would be a HARD challenge.

That sounds so terrible. May Arceus have mercy on his soul if he does that.

Oof...BIG Oof...

@@UnrestfulSinner nah he did bidoof already

Wiggly woo

Who needs a mega when you got a Miltank wife?

You kinda got a regional Tauros in Bouffalant. Slower, but bulkier.

@treeghettox Thats subjective. I think it's one of the coolest gen 1 pokemon. Also your reasoning is shit, every gen 1 pokemon is extremely basic.

@treeghettox Magmar is an anteater with flames painted on it. Bulbasaur is a frog with a flower on its back, kadabra is just a fox holding a spoon.

and drowzee is just a child molester. and that shit is canon,

He's Jewish.

@@HoratioMcAlge hey jews can buy christmas gifts for others and non jews can buy hannukah gifts id say christians but it kinda expands beyond them

Shouldn't matter what he is or you are it's still a gift from him to us especially if you like his channel, that's the was I see it anyways, it's always a treat when a new video comes out for this series

And just about as frequent haha.

And I just asked who the next contender was when I caught him commenting on SimpleFlip’s video the other day 😂

"I don't need sleep, I need answers"

Facts

Nah, I'm gonna watch it in the morning.

How the comment is two hours ago and the video is just one? RU-vid is broken

@@jp-dx6829 I am clearly a time traveler.

Agreed, he even mentioned how Tauros was held back by being in the slow level up group. An extra level or two would've gone a long way

I too have a feeling Snorlax will be really good. Considering its amazing attack and HP stats. Even it's abysmal base-30 Speed can be worked around (it is actually faster than Slowpoke However, it does have a weak base-65 Special stat in Gen.1, but that's where Amnesia comes into play. Snorlax has a pretty decent starting move pool, with Headbutt (Base 70, 100% accuracy), Amnesia and Rest. and its level-up moveset is pretty good as well: Body Slam - Level 35, Double-Edge - Level 48, and Hyper Beam at level 56. It also has a very deep move pool, comparable to Mewtwo in this regard. It can learn pretty much all of the useful TM moves (Ice Beam, Blizzard, Thunderbolt, Earthquake and Psychic!), as well as HM03 - Surf.

I think snorlax would consistantly dominate, but still be a lot slower just on the basis of needing to scroll through all the text of opposing pokemon attacks.

I would also love this. Inspired by Jrose I have tried it. Brock is still hard, you can't do min battles but with half moves and half struggle stats you can do it with only the bug catchers and junior trainer, after that you can do min battles, I prefer the amnesia strats for E4 because of badge boost and special working on attack and defense while being super effective against much of the E4 (Thunderbolt and Ice Beam/Blizzard just wins mostly) but I think physical with harden is also very viable. I didn't find rest strats that worthwhile but I'm a pretty aggro player. I would be very interested to see how Jrose handles it, there are so many ways to go with Snorlax, Brock is tricky but the late game is a very interesting run, there are also many options for Snorlax!

@@Asmodeus555 Jrose inspired me to do Tauros. But also Gen.2

All great input from everyone! I've also tried this run. Def not mewtwo level and brock takes a little extra time but it catches up very quick. The amnesia strats dominate because it's bulky enough to set up in most situations and learns great special moves. Top 10 for sure.

Cubone and Marowack be like that

“Ive positioned myself quite well throughout this match, and now i just need to outlast their tauros with my last 3 mons” Crit hyper beam Crit hyper beam Crit hyper beam

I see so many RK9's, to this day, my friend...

The proper pronunciation is Are-kuh-nee-nay.

Actually it's aa-kuh-nine, in most sources except one or two. Going purely by origin of the name, JRose's pronunciation is actually correct. Arcane + canine = Arcanine. So, Our K-9 run when?

@@infinitas. Sure, however language changes over time. While Arcanine's name is a combination of those two words that doesn't mean that they're gonna be pronounced like that. Take the Lasgun from Warhammer 40,000. It's a conjoinment of Laser and Gun, but it's pronounced universally with a soft "a." So since the overwhelming majority of media pronounces it ar-kuh-nine without an awkward pause that makes it seem like you're trying to say two separate words, that's as far as I'm concerned the correct way to say it. None of which excuses how bizarre people are on the internet, getting worked up about pronunciations of fake animal names. Like, I just wrote the above paragraph but even I think the people correcting Jrose are being dicks. Yeah, he pronounced a thing wrong, get over it.

But Ark a Nine.

That also reveals how Blue could’ve replaced Gyarados with Cloyster, and then all three of the type replacements could’ve had awful movesets for the champion battle.

@@ninjabulbmin5234 cloyster’s HP ruins it in gen 1 imo

@@cerealmilk1117 I’m not so sure about its HP ruining it. Gen 1 is the only gen where Cloyster has a decent special defense to back up its amazing defense. In later gens, it’s HP definitely hurts it especially because it lacks a reliable recovery move.

@@ninjabulbmin5234 it also would’ve meant his three team members would all evolve by stones and he wouldn’t have a Gyarados with Hydro Pump in Pokémon Tower. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t give him a Cloyster, since they clearly didn’t care about balance in the first place.

Arcanine is quite good stats-wise but having to wait 'til level 50 to evolve _just to learn Flamethrower_ is such BS that slapping Fire Blast right next to Ember on your doggo's moveset until then is as essential as it is absurd. Meanwhile Vulpix learns Flamethrower at level 35, making Ninetales _actually usable_ before the Elite 4.

Tbf, it's a relatively new(ish) discovery. iirc - a lot of battle simulators didn't factor it for the longest time

Definitely, not sure when

Great! I'm looking forward to it

Shame it doesn't get any bird-type moves.

@@Jrose11 pleeeease

Some varieties even have really good stats.

He also said 'I should really do a Lapras run'. Well. He's already done it.

I’m guessing the video is just not up yet?

I know this is a bit late, but while it's not my favorite from gen 1, it's definitely in my top 10, if not top 5 from the gen. I'm glad then gen 9 games gave it some focus.

And yet somehow a bull can learn ice beam and thunderbolt but not a kicking move?

@@rulebreakerscantberulemakers, well stated, indeed. That movepool mechanics established by Game Freak makes absolutely no sense. Tauros is a powerful normal-typing pokémon, with powerful legs (it’s a bull!!), that is not able to learn a powerful normal kicking move, but that can learn elemental moves (fire, ice and electric). Plain nonsense mechanics.

double kick and mega kick kick in front and bulls kick behind them. Do you really expect tauros to turn his back to the enemy to attack? They could do him if he did that

@@soody4975 even Jolteon gets double kick and I think in Stadium the animations show it using it's hind legs.

This is the same game that doesn't give Lickitung Lick

Teehee I like the edit

taus moveset and level up move pool not even suck is just the fact he is on slow exp group

Brock is also huge determinator of whether a pokemon is good for solo runs or not lol.

@@antonsundin2974 This. Tauros has good attack and STAB on its starting move but that doesn't really matter against Brock with his resistances.

Imo, Brock is such an absolute wall that it might be interesting if at the end, Jrose made two lists: one the regular tier list and one post-Brock simply to see what a make-or-breaker Brock is.

Hope you have a better day tomorrow man ♥️

I hope you're doing well.

If it makes you feel any better I screwed over my boss.

@@bigfudge2031 you know, as an ardent anticapitalist, that does. Thank you.

That's sweet.

I watch his videos to fall asleep must nights. I watch his videos repeatedly. Idk how I fell asleep beforehand haha.

Starting with Aurora Beam makes it even stronger. A 65 power STAB ice move from the get-go. Clamp is also pretty broken in gen 1 and it gets Withdraw for badge boosting.

@@carl4889 Problem with Clamp is that it's extremely slow to whittle down your opponent with it, so for this type of challenge it's not really a good fit

@@sephikong8323 True, but it would only be used on Brock’s Onix and then be replaced by either Water Gun or Bubble Beam.

@@DimkaSulegnaa Or you could just aurora beam the onix and not have to worry about timeloss.

@@GaIeforce Clamp would do more damage. Though that detail only matters if it one shots while Aurora Beam doesn’t. Either way, casual challenge runs.

Facts 😂

So is it because he leveled up during the battle so he will not get the bonus for the ONGOING battle Or is it just because of Rhydon?

@@tejaspadhye to clarify When I said Badge Boost I meant the Badge Boost Glitch specifically. So when he modified one stats Badge Boost was reapplied But when you level up mid-battle, everything is recalculated and you only get the badge boost you are MEANT to So he no longer had a boost to attack when he leveled up.

@@kazikek2674 okay im following, but when did he modify "one" stat?

@@tejaspadhye Technically, Rhydon did it for him by using the Tail Whip and activating the Badge Boost Glitch that way. So while his defense was lowered, all the other stats gained the extra badge boost, hence why his comment about boosted attack on Arcanine, but his attack wasn't boosted , because he leveled up after Rhydon. Gen 1 is weird.

@@kazikek2674 ohh. Thanks for taking the time to explain

Had us in the first half not gonna lie

He’s the only 😤

What Normal types lose in typing, they make up for with diverse move pools.

It really was a nice tough! I am glad someone else noticed. It tickled me

Smogon sucks.

Bruno is a bane of electric types since they tend to lack coverage. We've seen that with Jolteon and Zapdos.

I like how Bruno suggests he’s a Fighting trainer, but in effect is an effective Ground trainer unless the Pokémon is Normal-typed and frail.

His literal counterpart Miltank was introduced in Generation 2.

@@crazychristopher1989 we know trust me (shakes from whitney shellshock)

I wondered why it was blurred…

Yeah I wonder if lapras is ranked 11 since he blurred from there down

@@MrCharrrles Will be interesting to see why it's so far below Vaporeon though. I have my suspicions, but still...

@@OnlineVideoSurfer My guess is exactly what Taurus just suffered, level up group

@@robertanna2693 Yeah. Especially in the early game where Vaporeon had its only moment where it struggled slightly. But I will be curious all the same.

I'm also waiting for Bellsprout, one of my favourite Pokémon :)

Growth is better than Swords Dance because it can be used 6 times and Bellsprout is likely to rely on Mega Drain instead of Physical moves.

​​@@Igorcastrochucreswords dance makes it rise faster...

You will live a long life then

I tried that a few months ago, minimum battles is possible. Strangely enough, the hardest Trainer was the girl with three grass types that you cannot skip just after the tree on the route towards Rock tunnel. Otherwise, teach it psychic, surf, thunderbolt, and ice beam and you'll be fine.

I think Dugtrio could also have good potential. It's fast, slash will always crit, earthquake/dig. The only issue I could see is Misty but after that Dugtrio should be very good.

@@kaathesacolyte2943 he did diglett and he doesnt use fully evolved mons for the tier list so maybe later

@@egekahraman8985 He does do fully evolved pokemon. Last Red/Blue run was a Beedrill after all. He's just not doing EVERY fully evolved pokemon.

@@tobyhunt2127 oh I forgot about that but he mostly does first evolotions or really strong mons like alakazam in a subseries

It was considered the king of RBY and the top 4 strongest pokemon during that time. Its fell off every generation after that because of no buffs, evolution and power creep. It should have got a mega with kangaskhan

@@fizzbrew It got an Unovian regional variant: Bouffalant

@@PunsnGnoses thats not a regional variant, its just a new Pokemon that isnt very original so seems really similar to Tauros. They sometimes run out of ideas.

@@jonsmith5058 I actually don't think so. If they had thought about doing regional variants back in Gen 5, I can guarantee you some of those Pokémon would have been variants instead. The whole concept behind Unova was being a completely new continent with a different, yet similar ecosystem. But since they introduced so many new Pokémon, and a lot of them were pretty disliked overall, I suspect they figured they should just sightly tweak existing designs instead of creating completely new equivalents. The design philosophy changed since, but Bouffalant was still meant to be a counterpart to Tauros back then.

Underused in playthroughs maybe, since it's rather difficult to catch. In competitive it was top tier alongside Alakazam and Chansey.

19:48 Jrose11 mentions doing a Lapras run soon.... I wonder if it was an in joke or something!?

Easter egg

Good catch!

I'm so glad someone else spotted that as well. Viewing the video now, JRose has blurred all entries below Tauros, probably not to spoil anything while he is still editing it.

Yeah. I’m ready to see a growlithe video or arcanine. Or one like exeggcute

I actually did a run for all 3 of them and... they're probably worse than you'd think. Arcanine is slowed down initially since it only has Ember and Take Down, so it's either lowish power or inaccuracy and recoil. It gets better after getting Dig (tho you need some luck for Misty's Starmie), but after Rival 3 Gyarados becomes a recurring problem and at the Elite 4 Lorelei and the 2 Gyarados basically stonewall you, requiring a lot more leveling before it gets consistent. Growlithe has an even harder time, since you basically have to grind until you learn Ember before you get past Brock, Misty is an even larger problem now due to your lower stats, and the Elite 4 are even more of a brick wall than before (even with a near-perfect Growlithe, lots of vitamins and optional battles, I had to grind attempts at Lorelei until I got to level 78 just because Lance's Gyarados was such a big problem, and even then I won only because of a lucky miss followed by a crit because I still wasn't able to 2HKO that thing). Exeggcute gets screwed over by only having Barrage and later Leech Seed until Celadon; so before that it's worse than gambling at the Game Corner, and after that is either Psychic or Egg Bomb/Double-Edge softened by Leech Seed and Hypnosis until you get Toxic, which means Psychic spam on anything that isn't Psychic type, Toxic-Leech Seed the Psychics and sleep-Leech Seed- Psychic anything super-effective against you. It's probably one of the least fun runs imaginable.

@@darkfiredragon3410 At least Growlithe and Arcanine learn Dig which gives them coverage. Ponyta only learns Fire and Normal moves, and it does not get Flamethrower. It has to rely on Fire Spin because it's options are incredibly limited.

@@Igorcastrochucre I know, that's why I'm holding off from doing a run with it, especially after the pain that was trying to do a Vulpix one. I initially wanted to do Growlithe-Arcanine vs Vulpix-Ninetales, but the foxes stat and movepool disadvantage is so bad it's not worth it, the biggest reason being having to deal with several powerful Water types throughout the run (Starmie, Blastoise to a lesser extent, Lorelei and Lance's Gyarados) and the dogs are plain better at dealing with them: Arcanine is just strong enough to brute force them with enough training, and Growlithe just requires some luck with Starmie and later on can badge boost with Agility to deal with all the others bar Gyarados. Gyarados specifically is what made me forfeit the Vulpix run and not even start the Ninetales one: the foxes' lower physical stats and lack of Agility put them at a massive disadvantage. As i said in my previous comment, Growlithe required lv 78, near perfect DVs and lots of vitamins and optional battles to get past Lance, and even then i won only thanks to a missed Hydro Pump and a crit Body Slam because I still couldn't 2hko the Gyarados; Vulpix had the same preparation as Growlithe, but not only Lorelei was much harder because I couldn't badge boost and I had to reset if I got any Attack drops, but Gyarados was nowhere near 2hko range from Body Slam, so I'd probably had to go over lv 90 to even have a shot to get that range, and Lorelei at almost lv 70 was still so inconsistent that I couldn't bear grinding exp on her and forfeited the run. If you're asking, no, Confuse Ray wasn't nearly as helpful as it might seem considering that I'd need 3 consecutive turns of Gyarados not to attack me between confusion and misses for that to work; same for Fire Spin, because it's not only too inaccurate but also does barely any damage to Gyarados. About Ninetales, it not only still can't badge boost but it doesn't even get Confuse Ray or Fire Spin, so that's why I'm not trying that after what happened.

Starmie would still be a boss in a solo run

Would be far easier than this

@@SullySadface Not only easier, but more fun. Snorlax is so unique. Basically a way better Chansey. I'd also love to see Machamp and Starmie, though Starmie can't learn any psychic moves by leveling up in Gen 1.

Well, actually, you can use thunderwave on electric types can't you?

@@sedagr6214 Yes, status moves always work unless you miss or you're dealing with an immunity, but what Jrose meant is that attacks with secondary effects can't apply said effects against pokemon of that move's type; so no paralysing Electric pokemon with Thunderbolt, for example.

@@darkfiredragon3410 Got it. Thanks!

Are you sure? Because sometime in the history (not sure if gen 2 or 3, probably 2), Struggle gained the ability to damage Ghost-Type Pokémon. From a coding point of view, it would be weird to classify the damage type and the move type in two different ways...

@@MrHwoarang Yes, I'm 100% sure. It gained the ability to hit Ghosts in Gen. 2, when the move started to deal typeless damage. Though it can hit Ghosts in Pokémon Stadium, despite dealing Normal type damage. There is a clear difference between damage type and actual type, nothing weird abou that. Moves like Hidden Power, Weather Ball, Terrain Pulse, Judgement or Techno Blast are also ALWAYS classified as Normal type, regardless of the damage type. That's also the case, if a Pokémon has an ability that changes the type of certain moves. If you cheat or hack the game (there probably are also some glitches that would work) to give one of your Pokémon Struggle as a regular move in its moveset, the type will be shown as Normal type. There is even a moves description that is normally unseen and unused content.

@@MrEnte3000 thanks for the info, man, great to know that! :)

You do need x items and you need to be level 99 it can be done but it’s so tedious

Jake Mccaulay has already done one, you can check on his channel.

He tried it live on twitch last year. Long story short, to defeat the elite 4 you need things to go into such a specific way, that’s more likely to win the lottery than beating them without save states and items

@@Lucas-to2jc Yes, I have seen that one. I loved it. So I hoped to see maybe another approach?

@@WorkInProgressX Thank you for your reply. This clarifies a lot already.