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How Final Fantasy 7 Remake Expands The Eternal Conflict 

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Now that the Final Fantasy 7 Remake has been out in the wild for some time, numerous theories have cropped up. Many of these relate to what the Final Fantasy 7 Remake Ending may mean... but others look more at the content housed throughout and how it relates to the wider Compilation.
Within this video, we wanted to run-through some thoughts we've been having over the past week or so that related to Aerith, Sephiroth and the Planet (Whispers) and what they are all working towards.
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1. Final Fantasy 7 Remake Theories
2. Final Fantasy 7 Remake Sephiroth
3. Final Fantasy 7 Remake Aerith
4. Final Fantasy 7 Remake Whispers
5. Final Fantasy 7 Remake Ending
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@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 4 года назад
Discuss theories relating to the Final Fantasy 7 Remake on our Discord server! discord.gg/ffunion
@Smithington_
@Smithington_ 4 года назад
Hey, may I ask a question? As someone new to the franchise, what exactly does the FF7 remake encompass? To my understanding, there seems to be three games and one movie, with FF7 also having something akin to "DLC'S". Is this correct? And are they only going to remake the FF7 and its dlc's or are the other games (and perhaps even the movie?) also going to be remade with the remake?
@MultiverseMoo
@MultiverseMoo 4 года назад
@@Smithington_ You might want to watch the video again, as the remake is not a traditional "remake"...
@dreadedronin24
@dreadedronin24 4 года назад
Final Fantasy Union love every point I was thinking along the same track when I beat the game
@ursaber
@ursaber 4 года назад
Indeed. I felt in Remake that both Aerith and Sephiroth felt off. They both had a lot more knowledge of what was happening than they were letting on to Cloud and his party. Indeed the true conflict is the one between Jenova, the Calamity from the Skies, and the Cetra, both represented in the forms of Sephiroth and Aerith. One is the virus that seeks to destroy and spread and the other is the nurturer and preserver of life. Cloud is caught in the middle and the Planet itself is a background player using or taking advantage of these warriors to achieve its own desire.
@latelotus
@latelotus 4 года назад
@@Smithington_ this remake is a "re-imagining" of the first 7-10 hours of the original ff7. There are prequels and sequels around the original ff7 and the creators of this remake were heavily involved with most if not all of them.
@RockerDanM
@RockerDanM 4 года назад
I now want Square to take their time even more to ensure the story lives up to the creators' visions. I am okay waiting another year or two to give the game time to grow and represent the World of FF7
@tyleracuna2567
@tyleracuna2567 4 года назад
Danable Lector Same here
@georgehatzimanolakis1904
@georgehatzimanolakis1904 4 года назад
so from 2 years to 3 or 4? do you really want this to span 12 years not including the wait time for this installment?
@SpeedDemonRX
@SpeedDemonRX 4 года назад
2 years is a realistic expectation. Obviously the game is successful. If they stay true to the vision they have in mind they can get the next game out in 2 years.
@Dannyboy502000
@Dannyboy502000 4 года назад
Agreed. I think 2.5-3 years is reasonable with a trailer popping up in 1.5-2 years from now well into the PS5's development.
@Reshapable
@Reshapable 4 года назад
The problem with this stance (not that hurrying will help either) is that squeenix + time =//= quality. More time usually means looser less grounded ideas and more squandering of said time. I don't want them to rush but I do hope someone has tight leash on them otherwise not only will the game/s take forever to come out, they're going to be less cohesive with each entry. We're already walking that tightrope as it is.
@samurizzy
@samurizzy 4 года назад
We'll just have to wait until Bugehagen, reveals all!
@OriginalKasym
@OriginalKasym 4 года назад
Bugenhagen: *takes a hit of greens* Let me tell you about time paradoxes
@Afr0Punk
@Afr0Punk 4 года назад
Unless OG Sephiroith kills him first this time.
@jothfar1705
@jothfar1705 4 года назад
level 3
@DizzyShark.
@DizzyShark. 4 года назад
DevilKaz he has legs, he’s just a tiny shriveled up old man. The blue part of his polygon model is his body and the green part is a ball/ orb that he sits or stands on to float around, you can check out his concept art on the final fantasy wiki.
@Mysteryof89
@Mysteryof89 4 года назад
Hohohoho....
@liambrown3249
@liambrown3249 4 года назад
I like the direction they're taking here. It's a game of chess where Aerith & Sephiroth are in the know, the planet is a neutral piece, and Zack is a potential wild card. If done well this could give us twists and turns that will be similar to the feelings when playing the original FF7. My only concern is that the story doesn't "Go off the rails" and become overly convoluted and nonsensical. Granted you can argue that only the very end really went off the rails, and all the major story beats where done extremely well.
@Hawthornearts
@Hawthornearts 4 года назад
Things always get a bit shakey when time travel of any form is involved. But I'm really glad they decided to switch it up. I still don't think Cloud will make it out of this alive though.
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
And the way to explain the ‘timeline’ stuff where people are so confused is easily explainable. This is a singurality
@DizzyShark.
@DizzyShark. 4 года назад
Yeah, my biggest fear is that Nojima and Nomura get too caught up in their usual bad writing habits, I.E. retconing a bunch of characters and plot points, adding time travel (usually with vague or inconsistent rules), and in general the belief that the more parts that you add/ the more “complex” you make the story, the better and more “deep” it is when in reality it just makes a beloved game/ franchise a convoluted mess. Kingdom Hearts and other parts of the VII compilation gives us the tools to understand this, and the more creative control that Kitase has over the project, the better IMO.
@eddieherrera99
@eddieherrera99 4 года назад
@@DizzyShark. which characters and plot points are retconned? Honesty curious.
@DizzyShark.
@DizzyShark. 4 года назад
Eddie Herrera Genesis is the biggest example, who was designed and added in after Gackt who wrote the theme song for dirge of cerberus. Omega is another example and big plothole, especially when compared in context to the original game and the function of the weapons, also the turks seemingly having a conscience for saving Zack (A huge loose end for Shinra) but are fine with dropping the sector 7 plate killing off at least 50,000 people. I could keep going on and looking for more, but when compared to the story, and lore of the original game, a LOT of the added material and characters presented in the future parts of the compilation just don’t really hold up.
@aaronperkins2880
@aaronperkins2880 4 года назад
I absolutely love the direction they're taking this. At the end of Advent Children, Sephiroth said he would never be a memory. This seems to be a perfect continuation of that promise. The final post credit scene of the original game showed Aerith looking at the camera through some lifestream particles... The exact same way as shown during her entrance to this game. I think she's at least sent information to her past self via the lifestream to counter Sephiroth.
@irwan86
@irwan86 4 года назад
Yeah im agree..the soul of aerith in the remake is somehow from the future, from the end of FF7 OG..she travel back the time through the lifestream..this FF7 story getting more interesting
@MrDezokokotar
@MrDezokokotar 4 года назад
"The final post credit scene of the original game showed Aerith looking at the camera through some lifestream particles... The exact same way as shown during her entrance to this game." That scene is also in the original opening. Not saying that invalidates the theory but its certainly not strong evidence.
@aaronperkins2880
@aaronperkins2880 4 года назад
@@MrDezokokotar I'm aware that it's not super strong evidence, but Square's artistic choices are usually purposeful.
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
The best way to make sense of all this is that this is all a singurality
@RicEndt
@RicEndt 4 года назад
@@MrDezokokotar in the OG Opening her eyes are already open. In the ending scene she openes her eyes. Just as she does in the remake's opening ...
@KrazyBean14
@KrazyBean14 4 года назад
Cosmo Canyon gonna be lit in the Remake. Hopefully we'll get the answers there.
@strider4life696
@strider4life696 4 года назад
KrazyBean14 and the Gold Saucer
@TheKageX
@TheKageX 4 года назад
You have to understand though we might now be getting those exact settings. Going forward by us killing the big whisper we acknowledge the anything can happen and the same events from the original game will now occur, that including locations or people we was meant to interact with. This game is for both the original fans and new comers to explain what was the beginning like but going forward it will not be the same.
@DizzyShark.
@DizzyShark. 4 года назад
Adam Dills he sits on a floating ball, look at his concept art.
@etx8920
@etx8920 4 года назад
lmao
@nanoex2245
@nanoex2245 4 года назад
Even if we don't get all the locations from back then i want to atleast see some old enemies making a return such as the 7 weapons.
4 года назад
Maybe Cloud too is actually from a future timeline, seeing as he gets memories from future events, but seeing as his connection to the Lifestream is not as strong as Aerith & Sephiroth, he only gets them in painful flashes and not full memories. It also proves WHY he sees those flashes and get those feelings towards Aerith (the tear when he gets the flash of sad emotion and where he shows feelings towards Aerith even though he still does not really know her during that dream scene). =)
@infernousgaming1393
@infernousgaming1393 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure that Nomura confirms Aerith knows of events from the future in response to a question about her awareness. He doesn't deny it and tells the interviewer to wait and find out, or something to that effect. Edit: It's in the Ultimania, if anyone was wondering.
@rsrocha1984
@rsrocha1984 4 года назад
I think that the Aerith we see in chapter 14 is not the same we saw in the rest of the game. The dream Aerith is one that fully knows the future. The Aerith the we normaly see, has visions, like Cloud (maybe better) but has not yet lived the future.
@aikenxenophanes7928
@aikenxenophanes7928 4 года назад
@@rsrocha1984 She showed glimpses of knowing certain events before chapter 14. Either every time she talks with the planet she gets information from future Aerith as part of the planet she would also be a singularity or maybe she is future Aerith. The beginning of ff7 remake and the end of ff7 shows Aerith in the same pose/face
@user-wy1et9dk9w
@user-wy1et9dk9w 4 года назад
@@aikenxenophanes7928 i think it's a "sent your consciousness back in time" for aerith.. where as sephiroth was actually able to manifest his original self in the past because of cloud.
@1ch1r1n
@1ch1r1n 4 года назад
@@user-wy1et9dk9w Absolutely.
@abookamongsthemanypj7140
@abookamongsthemanypj7140 3 года назад
@@user-wy1et9dk9w aerith choose not to try to materialize again bc she didn't want to change the way her friends remembered her.
@Andy-qr3hu
@Andy-qr3hu 4 года назад
I found out that when Aerith gives Cloud the flower in the remake she says : ‘lovers used to give these when they were reunited’. This is more evidence that Aerith is a continuation or from another part in the timeline
@tonya3144
@tonya3144 4 года назад
Andy Smith I took it as a reference to her and Zack being reunited as Zack exists ‘within’ Cloud.
@sup3rzee453
@sup3rzee453 4 года назад
@@tonya3144 I took it as Aerith being a CloTi shipper esp cause she seems to think she will die in this timeline
@Renault07
@Renault07 4 года назад
This seems to be only in the English. French simply mentions "retrouvailles" (reunion) Others have noted that the English script deviates A LOT from the others. Some scenes play out differently even
@francisty139
@francisty139 4 года назад
Remake can be to "Remake" the world. That is my understanding.
@watching.learning
@watching.learning 4 года назад
Or remake the future.
@pstrokeslibsarctic
@pstrokeslibsarctic 4 года назад
Nah, remake characters’ destinies
@ismailtopa3671
@ismailtopa3671 4 года назад
The word "Remake" was written and presented as part of title since the announcement
@mikepelosi9877
@mikepelosi9877 4 года назад
Aerith: Don’t fall in love with me. It’s not real. For me, that line is everything. To me, it is as if Aerith is experiencing a new consciousness - a remade consciousness - that contains fragments of her self that is in a constant battle with Sephiroth to take control of the planet. That’s why she’s far more developed and in-tune with the planet this time around and actively rejects what she knows to be her destiny at the end. Also: Sephiroth brings Cloud to the edge of time, or something of that nature. That directly implies he can travel realities and times in my opinion. Basically, Aerith is granting everyone a second chance but it involves both her and the party recognizing the past mistakes which was, in essence, focusing on Sephiroth and not a bigger problem. And if this is a true continuation then Sephiroth is indeed remembering of everything and knows what he must do differently. Aerith / life stream is gambling on changing the outcome of everything. But to do that they must also accept Sephiroth and defeat not just his body but his diffusion throughout the lifestream as well.
@jlit5215
@jlit5215 4 года назад
Mike Pelosi to me her telling sephi and how she told the gang about him earlier “every thing about you is wrong” says a lot that she knows who he is and how much of a problem he is. It’s gonna be something now because sephiroth in the final battle it seems he got access to whispers as he realized them in the final battle. Also the fact that this may be a future sephiroth oh boy idk how Aerith can try to put a dent in his plans
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno 4 года назад
its possible that, that aerith is not the same as the one in the party, but the "original one".
@user-bb9xo7ex8f
@user-bb9xo7ex8f 4 года назад
@@marcosdheleno could be plausible. Though, i think shes her own but with a bit of a fragment(?) from the original. I dunno but this development really has me tingling for more.
@telltellyn
@telltellyn 4 года назад
@@marcosdheleno That ignores all the times in the Remake where Aerith is surprised or confused by something the OG Aerith would know, which happens very very regularly. She doesn't know everything.
@marcosdheleno
@marcosdheleno 4 года назад
@@telltellyn im not talking about aerith from the game, but the one that shows up to cloud in the "resolution", THAT aerith.
@299brody
@299brody 4 года назад
Marlene is mentioned in the train graveyard before Aerith says her name.
@Mychel_Nox
@Mychel_Nox 4 года назад
True, but Tifa said nothing about Barret being Marlene‘s father, and Aerith knew that as well. So the point still stands. She also said to Marle „there‘s still time“ for the evacuation that is, because she absolutely knew when the plate would fall.
@Andy-qr3hu
@Andy-qr3hu 4 года назад
She also told Cloud not to fall in love with her
@299brody
@299brody 4 года назад
@@Andy-qr3hu yeah not disagreeing that Aerith knows things she shouldn't just that she had no way of knowing Marlene's name
@TheOfficialNewb
@TheOfficialNewb 4 года назад
if you go back through the game in the train graveyard all tifa says is marlene that is all nothing of who she iss or what she saw in fact she dismisses it and tells aerith and cloud they need to hurry.... but then aerith knows that marlene is in 7th heaven.... along with looking at marlene and saying you must be barrets daughter.... so no she should no know anything about her lols
@TheOfficialNewb
@TheOfficialNewb 4 года назад
@Santi R there is a theory / real theory that the rider steals sadness from children who enter the graveyard and keeps it in the graveyard forever leaving a piece of you.... MARLENE tells a story about going to the train graveyard and being sad because she wants to be with her father more and aerith was left right next to the graveyard with her mother as she was dying..... if you understand that you can put the rest together
@WinkleAbiding
@WinkleAbiding 4 года назад
Level 4 theory: Cloud must die in order to fully destroy Sephiroth
@laxking251
@laxking251 4 года назад
Yup I think the same, as long as sephiroth/Jenova cells exist he will keep coming back
@michaelwilson5114
@michaelwilson5114 4 года назад
I can see that being the denouement. The final tear-jerker will be him and Aerith reuniting.
@emptymelodies3316
@emptymelodies3316 4 года назад
Can you imagine if he did in place of Aerith and you just continue the rest of the game without him? Crazy...
@michaelwilson5114
@michaelwilson5114 4 года назад
@Mr. SaladSpork And all the toxic puritans will whine "THATS not how the game ended!"
@michaelwilson5114
@michaelwilson5114 4 года назад
@@emptymelodies3316 Lets just say I have capital D Doubt that that will ever happen.
@Tony-eg3gi
@Tony-eg3gi 4 года назад
Explains why they had Advent Children cutscenes in FF7R. look at the flash backs closely in the game.
@botanbutton
@botanbutton 4 года назад
Ahhh, a particular line from the original keeps popping up in my head! "The Planet is in a crisis, a crisis beyond human power and endless time."
@Sage0130
@Sage0130 4 года назад
In addition to Aerith reassuring Tifa that she would help Marlene, Aerith also hires Cloud as a mercenary before even Cloud even has a chance to tell Aerith what he does for a living.
@JenovaGirzz
@JenovaGirzz 4 года назад
To be fair, he has a 5 foot sword on his back with the mako eyes of soldier
@Sage0130
@Sage0130 4 года назад
@@JenovaGirzz She could have assumed he was an active member of SOLDIER. She didn't. Just jumped right to that. Upon my second playthrough, I found it suspect.
@reilie9115
@reilie9115 4 года назад
NathanJCaboose it’s really suspect when Cloud is referred to as a jack of all trades merc constantly and then when she meets him again, she calls him that same phrase before he tells her (at least in jpn, not sure about Eng)
@JenovaGirzz
@JenovaGirzz 4 года назад
@@Sage0130 I agree with you, I do, but I'm just pointing out it could also be obvious. Cloud looks like a SOLDIER, so he can fight, but shinra troops treat him as a hostile therefore its easy to assume he went AWOL and became a merc
@LexTan
@LexTan 4 года назад
Remake Aerith probably thought to herself "didn't I experience this all before?"
@themaineone2984
@themaineone2984 4 года назад
So...the entirety of FFVII has been about the cosmic battle between Aerith, Sephiroth, and the Planet. A Battle that transcends time and with the OG FFVII being the bad timeline, Aerith has now set out to get the timeline right this time, with Sephorith being her total antithesis and the planet neutral not for or against her efforts... Wow: *when the plot thickens*
@rsrocha1984
@rsrocha1984 4 года назад
I still cant see how the original timeline is "bad" if Aerith pourpuse is to save humanity. Humanity was spare by the planet at the end of the OG game and was recovering in AC, and would survive centuries in future as simbolize as we hear children laughting after we saw Red running. So, what exactly is Aerith trying to avoid?
@themaineone2984
@themaineone2984 4 года назад
Rodrigo Rocha Because of the old FFVII books, we know the planet doesn’t care for any specific creature that lives in it and it will kill out of self-preservation. If you remember from the ending, 500 years after Aerith’s death, humanity ended because the problem was only *temporarily* solved by Aerith’s death. Future Aerith, could see this from within the livestream, traveled along the planet’s timeline, the same way Sephorith did, and enacted a plan to not just save the planet, but *humanity* as well. Aerith, in short, is on a mission to save humanity not only from Sephiroth, but from the planet’s self-preserving nature as well. In short: Aerith sides with humanity Gaia sides with itself And Sephorith sides with destruction
@devapanghegar7035
@devapanghegar7035 4 года назад
@@rsrocha1984 bro.. At the end of 7 it said 500 years later.. And in that time theres no more human.. Human extinct from the gaia.. Thats the end of 7. For me thats a bad ending. And AC is 2 years after.. The meteor fall.. Its not recovered after AC.. Human still dead later on.. Aerith want humanity can be saved Gaia doesnt like human.. They only love their ancient (thats why aerith can live in Livestream and she can comeback if she want to u can read the novel if u want to know) And sephiroth want to succedd what jenova wants
@jinhong91
@jinhong91 4 года назад
Or so they make you think, only to take everything away from you again.
@themaineone2984
@themaineone2984 4 года назад
jinhong91 Not likely 😂 I feel like Aerith wouldn’t go back in time just to get killed again, humanity dies off 500 years later and she goes round again, it wouldn’t make sense. Also I feel like they’ve been planning this for years because they have Sephiroth summon the whispers all the way back to Advent children. *If you go to advent children to where Sephiroth appears you will see him summon dark clouds, pause a few seconds later and you’ll see the pre-design for the whispers (the black ghost-like figures on the screen).* They also hint that Aerith and Sephiroth are total opposites at the end of FFVIIR with Aerith opening a path of light with Sephiroth’s portal of darkness, possibly negating the harmful effects it would’ve had on the party. It is likely that they have the same powers and are a duality of each other by nature. They already seem to know each other, *too* perfect😂👌🏾
@fenrir9784
@fenrir9784 4 года назад
I just can't believe how good and well scripted your videos are, just so satisfying and interesting. + 1 sub
@AzureViking
@AzureViking 4 года назад
Spot on analysis! I think, in some ways, this game is more representative of the original than people think. I just replayed through the og FF7 Midgar segment as I am playing back through the game right now, and Aerith definitely has a similar sense of knowing more than she lets on. I don't think there is any literal time travel going on, but rather some use of the lifestream to communicate through time to their past selves, sorta like the movie Frequency, if anyone remembers that one. Also, with Clouds little "episodes", those happened during the original game in even as far back as Midgar, but they were more vague. I think Aerith has been communicating through the lifestream with her future self or something to that effects, and I think Sephiroth has navigated the lifestream to affect things he shouldn't be able to like inhabiting his clones in order to manifest himself and invade Clouds mine through his connection with mako poisoning and Jenova cells. I expect the future segments to play out very similar to the way this one has with similar embellishments to the story. And rather than being a tragic tale of accepting death and loss, it will be a counter to that as a triumph of defying fate and destroying the notion of destiny, therefore giving more agency to the characters to remake themselves rather than follow their preset paths.
@Cure_Hana
@Cure_Hana 4 года назад
So the fact that it’s called “Remake” isn’t just because the game is updated with more features and a new coat of paint, but also because it’s a power struggle between Aerith and Sephiroth to remake a new timeline.
@abookamongsthemanypj7140
@abookamongsthemanypj7140 3 года назад
Bingo
@carasynthiadune9842
@carasynthiadune9842 4 года назад
You actually made things make more sense, thanks
@bluedude05
@bluedude05 4 года назад
I always had doubts that the little specters at the end of the game where Cloud Tifa and Barrett and man you just gave it all the more reasons to backup my doubt!! Good job with this!
@Serinigalini
@Serinigalini 4 года назад
Thank you so SO much for making this video. Personally, I really love the narrative foil between Sephiroth and Aerith, and I find it very interesting how their goals in the Remake are essentially the same. The Remake has gotten me extremely excited and theorizing again, and this is all I could ask for!
@michaelhoney7
@michaelhoney7 4 года назад
This is by far the most comprehensive, fact-driven theory assessment out there for the FFVII Remake! So many different sources pulled in to make sense of the situations presented. Please, PLEASE continue to provide this type of content! It is exceptionally insightful!
@zhaoyun255
@zhaoyun255 4 года назад
Gotta give credit to Maximilian Dood to realize upon deep analysis that was Yazoo, Kadaj and Loz. Also, even he realized that was Advent Children Sephiroth before the Ultimania release.
@Reshapable
@Reshapable 4 года назад
He didn't come up with that stuff, it was brought to his attention from some of his "top men". He was most people's resource for the information as he's got a large audience and did some podcasts with other audiences, but he didn't do that particular bit of detective work. So no you don't have to give him credit for it. You can give him credit for bringing it to your attention though, as he was mine.
@TRDGE
@TRDGE 4 года назад
This is probably the most in-depth analysis of Remake I have yet to see. Wonderful job friend #subbed
@mattholmes6268
@mattholmes6268 4 года назад
"As long as Cloud remembers me, I can continue to exist" KH Fans activate
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 4 года назад
Seriously, Axel must be Sephiroth's biggest fan, lol.
@MrMidasGames
@MrMidasGames 4 года назад
Such a great video, so almost got the platinum and while playing through Hard Mode, I was noticing all these little details with Areith and was also thinking, she’s from the a future or she’s already dead because she knows sooo much and I’ve wondered why no one else has been speaking about that, so it’s incredible the way you articulated it in this video. Please do more series like this, my favourite of your videos so far.
@Dr.Kyriazidis
@Dr.Kyriazidis 4 года назад
I enjoy so much to hear you talking. Clear thoughts, nicely structured speech, great voice colour.
@Dream.Pirate
@Dream.Pirate 4 года назад
DUDE! from all the theories made, yours makes a lot more sense!
@zanis_summers8284
@zanis_summers8284 4 года назад
This makes it SO much more hype than a simple remake!!! I’m ALL ON BOARD for a continuation of the compilation!
@jexzero639
@jexzero639 4 года назад
Great layout, concise cross referencing, very enjoyable watch although some cut scenes were repeated it was all in context. Thank you for this wonderful video!
@Tikou38
@Tikou38 4 года назад
This is exactly what I was thinking, playing the game. Every time there was a flashback, a little change, a sign that Aerith might remember things from the previous game etc, I was telling myself: Wait... it's not a remake! Or not the kind of remake they usually do! And I love it. I didn't see the parallel between the whispers and Kadaj, Yazoo and Loz and I find it so amazing... So many theories can be made with this game and I love it!
@soraxstacy1477
@soraxstacy1477 4 года назад
The team behind FF7R have stated that even though FF7R is a "remake" they still consider it a part of the FF7 compilation. So in theory FF7R might actually be a sequel
@Tikou38
@Tikou38 4 года назад
@@soraxstacy1477 Yes, That's what I understood too. Plus, they said it in the video.
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
The theory I got that stood well from people is that this is a singurality rather than multiple timelines/universes. It mixes or adds the best to what we’ve seen so far.
@jasonjose8108
@jasonjose8108 4 года назад
Aerith section “not to fall in love with me” in past tense, I believe it’s This Aerith from Advent Children from the livestream
@rsrocha1984
@rsrocha1984 4 года назад
Same, I dont that "dream Aerith" was the same Aerith that we have being playing with. The presente Aerith has only sparse visions of the future, but is not fully aware of it.
@devapanghegar7035
@devapanghegar7035 4 года назад
I dont think aerith from AC.. But she knows because planet is telling her what happen in lifestream..
@captaintanukigaming8452
@captaintanukigaming8452 4 года назад
Pretty sure that wasn't Aerith, but Sephiroth manipulating us with her imagery. Go back and watch and you'll see the black feather flutter through, a key indicator of Sephiroth's presence.
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
The theory I got that stood well from people is that this is a singurality rather than multiple timelines/universes. It mixes or adds the best to what we’ve seen so far.
@mhluthfi
@mhluthfi 4 года назад
I dont really care for that think actually, who give that dream to cloud. We still dont know until what coming next. I think that dreams will give cloud to have strong feeling for loving aerith even aerith tell better not to love her. Its my opinion what i think
@hackerkillerpk
@hackerkillerpk 4 года назад
Let's not forget about Genesis when he carried Weiss's body and said that they have so much work to do.
@randomanimefan0154
@randomanimefan0154 4 года назад
Maybe genesis is the true threat to the world.hence maybe that is why Seph wants Cloud's help as well.
@tiffyw92
@tiffyw92 4 года назад
Basically, Aerith and Sephiroth are like kids fighting over their favorite Chocobo plushie, but on the scale of Cosmos vs Chaos in the Dissidia games.
@livelyoh8816
@livelyoh8816 4 года назад
I enjoyed this video and I hope you'll consider making more of them :)
@moretestmorebreast7654
@moretestmorebreast7654 4 года назад
Thank you for making this video! I have been watching analysis videos and replaying both remake and the original trying to figure out what all of this means, as well as decide whether I think the new story is good. Your video cleared up so much confusion and has me excited for the next part. Keep up the great work, you earned yourself a sub.
@bigge2win
@bigge2win 4 года назад
The Advent Children references give me hope that the story doesn’t deviate too much from the original...both Aerith and Sephiroth trying to defy fate might actually mean that the original main plot points still happen...meaning that I do hope Tifa does not die prematurely and Aerith still has the same impact in the remake at the end of it all as the original
@laxking251
@laxking251 4 года назад
There is literally no reason to think they would change things like that lol it's a story of defying fate, you think you can change things until you realize that what you change doesn't matter and things play out the same way no matter what
@bigge2win
@bigge2win 4 года назад
Well said enough there
@jlit5215
@jlit5215 4 года назад
Edward Liu plus if anything I think sephiroth will be gunning to take aerith down. As of now she’s his biggest threat because she knows stuff and mix that with holy....one thing I think they’ll change is the way aerith will die. They might have cloud actually kill her like he almost did before sephiroth did in the original. I don’t see them killing tifa but honestly never know (hopefully they don’t tho)
@bigge2win
@bigge2win 4 года назад
Yeah, based on the roles that Aerith and Sephiroth still play in the remake, I also feel that Aerith has more of a target than Tifa does. It doesn’t make any sense why Sephiroth would kill Tifa, especially once all of the other aspects of the story get revealed and the main plot points still stick. So yeah, remaining optimistic than Tifa is fine throughout the remake series and will still play her role in the end
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
The theory I got that stood well from people is that this is a singurality rather than multiple timelines/universes. It mixes or adds the best to what we’ve seen so far.
@Andy-qr3hu
@Andy-qr3hu 4 года назад
This video was really good. It answered questioned some of us have so please continue these videos
@Wepospalient
@Wepospalient 4 года назад
The end of the remake makes more sense after watching this. I was so confused as to what was going on, but this all seems to click.
@valcunz
@valcunz 4 года назад
Wonderful stuff
@papapaulrocks
@papapaulrocks 4 года назад
Loooooove this analysis/theory! It's so deep, so crazy, so complex.
@teeess3750
@teeess3750 4 года назад
As a person who comes to Final Fantasy as a watcher of the movies, theories, origins, I really like these pieces. They fill gaps that are left. I only knew the ending of the original FFVII because of your Cloud origins and various other things I'd heard/read. So, seeing the end of the remake I was like Whhaaaaattt???? (Mostly because I'm a novelist and I'm expecting a nice link to Advent Children! But.... the theories you talk about here gave me pause for thought, and a re-look at the story I 'know'. I love that you opened my eyes (and I can't say how stunning FFVII (and XV) is from a novelist's point of view in terms of character and plot) and really appreciate being encouraged to think outside the square. Thumbs up to plot twists. What about Marlene and Aerith? Marlene's pose in the train graveyard is the same as when she's hiding under the bench at Seventh Heaven when Aerith finds her. And when they hug there's a 'moment'. I originally thought 'ohh Marlene's got Ancient blood' but I wonder now if it was more that Aeirith somehow let Marlene know through touch/thought that everything was going to be alright with her dad, Cloud, Tifa etc. And... just watching Cris Core again and I notice that the number 49 shows up prominently in the training room scene with Angeal, Sephiroth and Genesis - the same number on the strange guy living beside Cloud. (OMG - sorry for the length. Did say I was a novelist.....)
@mongoose33333
@mongoose33333 4 года назад
Feel like I have watched every theory but this one made some other great connections! Thanks for the great videos!
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix 4 года назад
I'll have to really explore the feeling, but I always had the hunch that the Harbinger wasn't what we thought it was. It's three arch henchmen being those goons from Advent Children only furthered the hunch. Great video!
@mattfromtinder9803
@mattfromtinder9803 4 года назад
At the beginning of chapter 6 or 7, I can’t remember which one, Barrett and Tifa mention Marlene’s favorite book. Life in an endless maze. Later in the story Aerith mentions that she’s lost in an endless maze and about how when the whispers touch her she loses part of herself. Then the line about following the yellow flowers.
@dibdug32
@dibdug32 4 года назад
This was great! I love the way you guys summarize everything.
@freedoom755
@freedoom755 4 года назад
i'm new to this channel. I LOVE your content! 👏🏽 It gives me a lot of daydreams about FF7/remake and how it will continue. Pls 🙏 keep it up! u have a new subscriber in me!
@GrammerSmosh
@GrammerSmosh 4 года назад
SE: All questions will be answered Me: Doubt
@moneym0ney
@moneym0ney 4 года назад
Amazing video. I think even amongst the most diehard fans of FFVII there is a good portion who were unaware there was a whole FFVII novel series published. You did a great job in summarising and contextualising these in regards to the events FFVII:Remake. Personally I think theory videos will ultimately be what sustains me until the second part of the Remake is released. Looking forward to more content!
@kingofgames1986
@kingofgames1986 4 года назад
This was an amazing video, you really filled in a lot of holes. Thank you!!
@_goopho
@_goopho 4 года назад
Ah, it's nice to think that all these corollary short stories and guides + FFVII Compilation games + FFVII Remake contents have been produced to render a cohesive narrative that will neatly, logically pull together all FFVII lore threads in the end... But let's be honest, how likely is it that with the amount of a) people involved in the creative aspects of anything FFVII-related, and b) stuff being produced across more than 20 years, the writers/directors have always, collectively had their shit 100% together in the aftermath of FFVII? When you get a project this size, with all this prequels/sequels/spinoffs/expanded universe material, you bet details get forgotten, small creative decisions snowball into pretty divergent scenarios, stuff gets retconned like it's nobody's business, and so on on and so forth... Once you start getting on board a bunch of different authorial voices across long stretches of time in a series, on average you end up with people making/unmaking things up as they go (Nomura already seems the type to do that on his own if you ask me lol) more or less loosely within a common core knowledge frame (Evidence of this happening can be observed, imho, in how varied the interpretation of Aerith and Sephiroth's actions in the original FFVII game can be based on this textual reference alone versus what is presented in the each of the subsequent games or novellas or whatnot)
@cinderling5472
@cinderling5472 4 года назад
goopho Yup good points. This is exactly what scares me. Let's just hope they stay focused on tying together those loose ends!
@MiniMexii
@MiniMexii 4 года назад
I love getting my final fantasy fix from you guys! I would 100% watch more theory videos too!
@lennytan9462
@lennytan9462 4 года назад
Your theory really makes sense. I found myself nodding and agreeing so many times while watching your video. Nice one! Playing FF VII Remake felt like nostalgic as well as refreshing. Still so many mysteries to unfold, but I will wait patiently for SQE to build the necessary plots while replaying the game again and again hahaha
@shiranui20
@shiranui20 4 года назад
What a great video. Congrats. Having chils during all of it. Great job.
@humphreytam
@humphreytam 4 года назад
I like this theory a lot. It also gives the word "Remake" another level of depth. It's actually Areith, Sephiroth and Gaia's remake of what happened. That said, what is Aerith's motive to have to redo this... she doesn't absolutely lost, she just didn't get the perfect outcome. Humanity survived, all her friends survived.
@KentStark
@KentStark 4 года назад
I’ve heard most of this before, but I think this video was very well done and I love theory videos
@magicalgirl4
@magicalgirl4 4 года назад
Love this video! It encapsulates one of the more prominent fan theories out there that I believe makes complete sense
@tonymack
@tonymack 4 года назад
Great work guys. I have been thinking most of this myself.
@perom6727
@perom6727 4 года назад
FFVII will live forever
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 4 года назад
FFVII will never be a memory...
@cf3304
@cf3304 4 года назад
@@peekaboojujitsoo525 Nah the original is a kiddy game with kiddy graphics. This new one makes the old one obsolete. Google search optimization and time I general will push FF7 2020 up in search results and the 1997 garbage will fade into obscurity.
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 4 года назад
@@cf3304 I meant FFVII as a whole will never be a memory, not just the original game which all compilations are based on including FFVII Remake
@ZEFISH888
@ZEFISH888 4 года назад
@@cf3304 Not really. If anything, more people are buying the original because the new one is a sequel.
@magicalgirl4
@magicalgirl4 4 года назад
@@cf3304 ok troll
@clockwork3991
@clockwork3991 4 года назад
Great video, this made me even more excited to see where they take the story. On a side note, I'm very interested see how they make the other characters play. I have this feeling that Yuffie could potentially be one of the best characters to experiment with. Given her narrative obsession with materia and that thing on her arm with all those materia slots.
@Flashback007
@Flashback007 4 года назад
To be fair there is such a bigger spotlight on the entire Shinra-Wutai-conflict that it would surprise me if Yuffie hasn't got a much bigger role.
@jordanmichael6263
@jordanmichael6263 4 года назад
This game was the perfect combination of interesting story, amazing cutscenes, & great gameplay 👏🏽 hope they stick the landing at the end of this 🙏
@Hawthornearts
@Hawthornearts 4 года назад
Yeah, from the incident with the whispers and Jessie in sector 7, I was certain this was a sequel too. I really like how they played with the word Remake. Aerith/Sephiroth are literally trying to remake the events that happened into something that works for them. I still don't think OUR Cloud will make it out alive though...
@goodthings2life
@goodthings2life 4 года назад
Very good video! Thanks for making this.
@tsukinight4939
@tsukinight4939 4 года назад
I always enjoy more content from you guys!
@eratiera
@eratiera 4 года назад
Jenova already took control of some of the Cetra's bodies & fused with their dna back then..The misconception of Sephiroth being an (indirect) Ancient might be true because of his Jenova's genes (because he's still an offspring of the extraterrestrial being). That could be also be why Aerith & Sephiroth have some similar capabilities within the afterlife. Also Cloud could see the future only because of Jenova's abilities. Lucrecia had saw the future of Sephiroth's dark outcome after giving birth to him; regardless she wanted to see her son.
@k-gedbird2663
@k-gedbird2663 4 года назад
The best theory video that I've seen since FFVIIR is out. Congratulations!
@eliotwildermann
@eliotwildermann 4 года назад
That caution at the beginning reminded me of law an orders opening when they advise caution for adult content
@timothywhitney6307
@timothywhitney6307 4 года назад
More content like this please! It makes my day!
@MichaelJohnson-xn6jt
@MichaelJohnson-xn6jt 4 года назад
Great Video! Big fan of the presentation!
@TheDawn15
@TheDawn15 4 года назад
I love this! This is so much more than just a remake and I can't get enough of it even after Platniuming the game.
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 4 года назад
I highly recommend that everyone here go listen to spoiler mode with Maximilian Dood, The man’s theories will make you question everything in this game and give it another go.
@ZainKaneko
@ZainKaneko 4 года назад
i thought of max while watching this too. but i think this video pretty much neatly summarizes what max's theories are. if anything, i'd say one of the things that max has said in one of the podcasts he's been on was that playing the game multiple times expands your perspective on what's actually going on is encouraged and that even the game "wants" you to play more and then people can come to their own understanding and theories. which to me is really just good game design.
@irwan86
@irwan86 4 года назад
Max is ahead of time, he already knew most of the things even the ultimania not being out yet..he absolutely a huge fan of FF7
@camilo0calderon
@camilo0calderon 4 года назад
The theory I got that stood well from people is that this is a singurality rather than multiple timelines/universes. It mixes or adds the best to what we’ve seen so far.
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 4 года назад
Camilo Calderon I feel like multiple timelines have been created and they’re going to collapse onto each other as the story goes forward. This is kind of the reason why I feel like Tifa will die instead of Aerith, I think that when it comes to the critical point Zack will save her at the last minute, only for it to reveal that she was never the true target. Sephiroth will then kill Tifa, because he realizes that she matters to Cloud more than Aerith. The way they emphasized on Cloud and Tifa’s relationship just screams she’s going to die imo.
@benn93z28
@benn93z28 4 года назад
@@camilo0calderon I agree. There's no evidence much less hints that there are multiple timelines. However, the ending strongly hints that with the destruction of the Whispers and Sephiroth's meddling, the timeline has been altered. The future obviously has been changed ("The unknown journey will continue"), the history has been changed (Zack lives, there are survivors from the Sector 7 plate collapse, Biggs is alive, etc). The only thing they haven't shown you is how the PRESENT has been changed. That .. is what awaits us in the next installment, and i can't wait .. :)
@JesusGonzalez-uf2hk
@JesusGonzalez-uf2hk 4 года назад
Thank you! This helps clear up a lot of feelings
@EmilyTempest81
@EmilyTempest81 4 года назад
This was a neat video and keep up with videos like this.
@sleepyprinny
@sleepyprinny 4 года назад
Speaking of Marlene. There emwas that moment, where like Red XIII, she seemed to also glimpse something. A something Aerith asked her to keep secret for now, which interestingly may be unique to Marlene goven that weird moment in the ending where she and Barret resonated towards eachother. As for your analysis. I liked it. It makes s lot of sense if you consider the series as a whole and the Lifestream's power to affect reality even retroactively. I personally felt that this Sephiroth, or at the very least, the one at the end *was* the post AC Sephiroth. I feel like he's pulling a Caius in using not just the clones, but an earlier version of himself too. It's pretty doable if you consider that, in the original, Sephiroth is still recovering in the Lifestream at the Northern Crater. As for Aerith, I think she's getting messages from her future self and indeed acting indirectly. She feels more in line with a present version of herself still trying to make sense of things rather than an Aerith who already lived through it. This is highlighted in her characterization, which feels closer to her ber Crisis Core self over her original Compilation FF7 version. Honesrly, and unless you know your lore, it's easy to miss so much. Even I was surprised by the Remnants connection in the Arbiters of Fate boss rush. But it makes sense and would fit in line with this being a 3 way war between the planet, Sephiroth, and Aerith with the Lifestream as the catalyst for it all.
@amberv441
@amberv441 4 года назад
i'm replaying on hard mode and catching all sorts of things that i didn't on my first playthrough, and all of what you suggested could absolutely be true and i'm really excited to see how they handle the next part of the game ;-; thank you for the video !
@woozlerealm7986
@woozlerealm7986 4 года назад
Hell yeah more theory content! very well thought out and delivered.
@IxSnakethZeroxI
@IxSnakethZeroxI 4 года назад
Love the theories keep them coming
@pjjulian5243
@pjjulian5243 4 года назад
Thank you!!!! Awesome narratives and explanations 👍
@kingofthesharks
@kingofthesharks 4 года назад
Promised Land is not the only Advent Children song in the game. In Chapter 17 (possibly elsewhere) you can hear "Sign" from the film play for a bit when the party gets into the elevator toward the Drum, and a black feather falls to the floor. I just been replaying the game and noticed that track.
@Eorendel.
@Eorendel. 4 года назад
Lovely video! Personally, I think they are going to kill Cloud instead which worries me deeply. Our poor boy can't catch a break...
@thiagorodrigues556
@thiagorodrigues556 4 года назад
Fun to see the discussions. But there are too many important questions people are not asking themselves
@kseromore
@kseromore 4 года назад
please have a full analysis of all the changes and stuff in remake and all the meanings you are the only ones i trust
@JoeyGarzaHealth
@JoeyGarzaHealth 4 года назад
Great vid man!!
@realOMNIslasher
@realOMNIslasher 4 года назад
Wow.. i just watched this. and this is great. hope.we can get part 2 soon or a dlc on what to expect at least.
@harukozgoalz3566
@harukozgoalz3566 4 года назад
thats amazing, great video im gonna check out the book too!
@puffman06
@puffman06 4 года назад
the books are really just like a few paragraphs, you can find them translated on google
@smokebomb4206
@smokebomb4206 4 года назад
When the last thing you expect, the planet, messes up your plan.
@Zephhi
@Zephhi 4 года назад
Has anyone just sat down and thought “Isn’t Sephiroth just a silver haired, male version of Aerith?”
@johnnysalery7383
@johnnysalery7383 4 года назад
Zph I kinda had that same feeling a long time ago. Sephiroth is basically an evil, twisted, male version of Aerith. However, it could also be vice versa. I like the theory of them being two sides of the same coin. Both seeking to save the Planet, but through different means. (Even though it's pretty clear Sephiroth only wants to destroy humanity so that he and Jenova can live on for eternity)
@vanessavaz1187
@vanessavaz1187 4 года назад
They were originally designed to be brother and sister. This has been revealed by Nomura some time ago. They dismissed the ideia eventually, but the concept is still there: they bear a lot of similarities but are the opposite of each other.
@Karlobster923
@Karlobster923 4 года назад
Nomura literally designed Sephiroth to look like Aerith to show their connection
@MerlynwestVII
@MerlynwestVII 4 года назад
Zph they were originally supposed to be siblings
@sleepyprinny
@sleepyprinny 4 года назад
Well, originally, she was supposed to be his sister.
@chibiasta
@chibiasta 4 года назад
Very respectful analysis. This is 5th installment of the compilation as Nomura said... if it is a continuation then the rest of the compilation will still be considered cannon after the remake is complete then?! Lol... looking for a happy ending where everyone is alive here xD
@SuperEffector
@SuperEffector 4 года назад
Something interesting about the Black Robed Sephiroths is that I’m fairly sure that’s the present day one that’s still in the Northern Crater trying to do his original plan. All the times he appears he only talks about the reunion or is doing what happened in FF7 with taking Jenova from the Shinra building.
@jrasealexander5480
@jrasealexander5480 4 года назад
Thank you, THANK YOU for finally explaining these wraiths to me!
@HolyMateria
@HolyMateria 4 года назад
I really liked this video! I feel like the creators want us to theorize about FF7R. So I think this is a great direction to go in when covering this series.
@CanadianBacon4.0
@CanadianBacon4.0 4 года назад
Amazing video!
@jamiemcneil9682
@jamiemcneil9682 4 года назад
We will have to wait and see. Never picked up on any of these things. So interested to see how it plays out. This could end up being something i don't want, though it has been enjoyable so far.
@shannon1242
@shannon1242 4 года назад
I agree with this analysis completely! I had some of the same thoughts floating around and you were able to take most of them and structure them into a nice clear narrative. The big one I missed is that the Harbinger is Jenova and because remake has used purple so strongly as a signifier of her presence and the Harringer being purple as well then of course that must be her in a similar form as Loz, Kadaj and Yazoo. FF7 from the beginning has always been Aerith vs Sephiroth with Cloud pulled along on their fight against one another. I'm so happy they decided to really delve deeper into this conflict for the remake. Years and years ago I thought if there was a sequel it would be awesome to have Aerith and Sephiroth still in the lifesteam undissolved trying to influence events. The remake seems to be in that theme.
@AmirahShukri
@AmirahShukri 4 года назад
Its amazing how complex the story is. Hands down probably the best Final Fantasy story in history
@CetraMystic
@CetraMystic 4 года назад
I love this so much more than simple alternate timelines theory the way you've explained it, it makes a lot of sense. I now believe there are 2 likely possibilities it's either the directors cut to bring original ff7 and the whole of the compilation together in a cohesive story, or it as you have said. Either way my first thought while playing this game is that both aerith and sephi as so connected to the planet that they are sensing future events. I don't believe either of them knows exactly what is wrong they just feel like things aren't as they should be regarding they're ultamate goals.. sephiroth somehow feels he is destined to fail and aerith can sense the change in him which is why she says hes wrong on highway he feels off... I really doubt they're would get into time travel that's a ff8 thing not ff7..
@justashumaiko5818
@justashumaiko5818 4 года назад
Why would they show the OG Buster sword? I only remember Cloud holding it during Advent and during CC when he stabbed Seph with it. Also is it just me, or the Flashback of Zack's last stand starts from Cloud but end with Aerith has some meaning to it? I know its the wrong vid. to ask but am I the only one who wonders on those things?
@AlphaSpiritWolfsbane
@AlphaSpiritWolfsbane 4 года назад
For a theory video all the information given was spot on to what we think is happening within the universe of Final Fantasy 7. Aerith and Sephiroth within this game do know more then they let on. Aerith being subtle about it, but still was kind of out of context with what was happening during curtain points of the game; and Sephiroth being himself and not caring about anything but his own objectives within the plot. I love how this is turning out to be a sequel and a reimagined Final Fantasy 7. I cant wait for the other parts to come out and see where this rollercoaster with end up. Each time I find out something knew I havent thought about and each time it makes a lot more since. Thanks for the video.
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