How 'Friends' Invented The Friendzone - People Watching #5

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@SebastianSeanCrow 7 лет назад

"Oh no we're just in a relationship" I love that lol

@andrebrynkus2055 6 лет назад

And they met at the speed dating. (And Ted & Martha went to the beach.) Dreaded continuity.

@restingsadface 5 лет назад

669 like

@RottenDoctorGonzo 5 лет назад

No.

@maudeloves5687 5 лет назад

Oh well can't win em all

@robertglass3944 5 лет назад

What a nice way to say, "No, we're just fucking".

@AdrianSanchez-sr2tk 6 лет назад

are they just... sitting in silence until years later when they have to continue the same conversation?

@AdrianSanchez-sr2tk 6 лет назад

is my life a lie?

@RvEijndhoven 6 лет назад

I dunno, I have those kinds of recursive conversations with my best friend(s). You know, where every once in a while you repeat, almost verbatim, a discussion you've had before, except after you get to the part where it ended last time you add to it and over time it grows and the first part get dropped. Or is that just me? (If People Watching has taught me anything, it's that: No, whatever it is, it's not just me.)

@napppstar0 6 лет назад

Not just you

@paddogpaddog9128 6 лет назад

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@lordmew5 6 лет назад

Robbert van Eijndhoven as you can tell its not only you

@thorevans6404 6 лет назад

Why does Ross, the largest friend, not simply eat the other five?

@happygreenclean 5 лет назад

Thor Evans Collect the lower horn!!!

@lalakuma9 5 лет назад

I'm just some guy... RULER OF OMICRON PERSEI 8!

@genevievecharlotte3005 5 лет назад

This is for tumblr

@RubeGold356 5 лет назад

Thor Evans yeth

@satansenpai3971 4 года назад

They are saving that for sweeps

@comradeavocatto1839 5 лет назад

I love how this is a continuation of the confessional booth. Ted confessed about how he is one of those who secretly admires his friend and he felt that Martha feels the same. In another video, he was ranting about his problems and is feeling depressed. In the confessional booth, Martha complains on how a certain friend always talks of his depression and she's just tired of hearing the same thing. Each video tackles different themes but the characters are well developed. They have continuity and consistency.

@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks 3 года назад

This show is so well written and so good to go back on once in a while. I wish that more people saw it. Especially these "woke" kids of today.

@Leftistattheparty Год назад

@@AsdfAsdf-mi6ks the show is woke... This episode is literally a feminist essay about friendship and relationship.

@wolfboy20 Год назад

@@Leftistattheparty Wait.. How So???

@raydgreenwald7788 Год назад

@@wolfboy20 the whole episode is about how because of societial expectations on men and women not being able to be friends, these two characters are constantly heckled about their own friendship. The episode is a commentary about how society ingrains this idea of men and women not being able to form platonic relationships and how that affects Ted and Martha's friendship

@bbworks159 Год назад

@@Leftistattheparty is that a bad thing?

@AlfredEiji 7 лет назад

Wow, after looking at the comments section, it seems to me that many people are missing the actual message of the video. The video presents the *irony* of Martha and Ted professing that they don't want to have a romantic relationship while describing their relationship using characteristics that are central to strong romantic relationships. For instance, Martha says that they're "just in a situation of permanent mutual support and understanding." They seem to ascribe that characteristic solely onto friendships, and seem to think that intimacy of that sort becomes impossible in romantic relationships. Hence, they discuss in the latter part of the film how they don't receive the same level of companionship from other people they "go out" with and have sex with. However, what is a true romantic relationship but one of permanent mutual support and understanding? Aren't companionship, trust, and support what we should be seeking in our romantic relationships? Honestly, I think that the video presented an unfortunate reality on the general discourse about relationships: friendships and romantic relationships are mutually exclusive. As a society (maybe generation?), we've come to believe that we cannot be friends with whom we have sex and vice versa. We've come to believe that we can't receive the love we get from friendship if we receive the more physical love characteristic or romantic relationships. Solely within the context of Martha and Ted, I thought that the video was really expressing how these two people are so afraid of losing each other's companionship that they don't want to ruin their friendship by making it into a romantic relationship. There's a reason why the final scene of the video was of Martha and Ted engaging in a moment of emotional intimacy on a bench with the inscription M + T while professing that they could never be in a romantic relationship together. Their relationship is primed for a powerful and stable romantic relationship, but they refrain from moving their friendship to a romantic stage from fear of losing the existing trust and support. It is _ironic_, and in my opinion, bittersweet.

@AnonYmous-mc5zx 6 лет назад

From the sounds of it, they have a grown up epiphany to make based on not just being sarcastic about society's erroneous dichotomy of friendships and relationships while begrudgedly falling into line with it themselves. Every single thing that I observe of society that doesnt make sense, I not only call out but change my behavior to not just be a part of the problem.

@GraceLum 5 лет назад

That honestly makes so much sense cause I I thought the same way with one of my guy friends in the past- although things worked out now! And we found people who we connect with on a companionship and romantic level

@Hakajin 5 лет назад

I agree with what you're saying, but I'm not sure that's what the video is going for. I mean, you can have that kind of friendship and just not be attracted to the other person. From my point of view... I think your romantic partner should be your best friend, though. Even if it doesn't start out that way, if you get married and have a family together, that's typically going to be the center of your life, the person you share that with is going to be your partner. I'm attracted by feelings of closeness and... this sense that me and that person are the same inside, somehow, like we're connected in a way that we aren't with other people. A feeling like soul mates, whether you believe in that kind of thing literally or not. I that know people who have a best friend of the opposite sex sometimes have trouble finding romantic partners who are ok with that, and I can't really blame them for feeling bummed about that... But on the other hand, I can't blame people for not being ok with it. If I tried to be in a relationship like that, I'd be setting myself (and him) up for heartbreak.

@AceLM92 5 лет назад

That is probably the most sane comment I will see for this video

@ItsOvaNinethousnd 5 лет назад

I like how, people watching videos are the only ones on youtube where Ican go down to the comment section, see a comment that is like,200 times bigger than the usual one and ACTUALLY read it! Actually its one of the best things about these videos, I'm actively looking forward to seeing what other people have to say. Usually the comments in other videos are not just "not all that intresting", but also just painfull to look at. Even if there are bigger comments that go into more depth, just because theire on the Internet a lot of people think that, proper writing and structure is "not needed". Fact of the matter is, that EVERYBODY hates reading and good structure is needed to make it not so exhausting and actually enjoyable.

@Domfass21 7 лет назад

I still remember him for wanting only 2 things, Surfing, and Pegging...

@taloutezero 7 лет назад

+Dom Fass Based on this video I think he should have wanted "cool friends" instead.

@aidenbelanger7867 6 лет назад

Huh yeah I recall that to

@seignee 6 лет назад

Hannah Elzenaar girl wears strap-on then fucks the guy in the ass

@Niphredyl 5 лет назад

The beach and pegging

@timmytoms__ 5 лет назад

HAHAHAHAH

@melindawolfUS 3 года назад

I don't think the actual problem lies in friendships, but in how people view romantic relationships as being something so alien to friendship. Big cinematic romantic gestures, gifts and sex are the things people focus so much effort on that they ignore the solid foundation that should be beneath it (friendship).

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

You're forgetting exclusivity. I would totally enjoy a friendship with a woman without sex, gifts, or big gestures, so long as I was treated better or thought of more than any of her friends or boyfriends. A relationship is about someone who makes you feel special. A friendship struggles to do that if there are 10 other friends with that person that get treated the same level.

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

A man in a relationship however, can much more easily sustain a friendship with women, because his base desires are fulfilled

@melindawolfUS 11 месяцев назад

@@aceman0000099 That's just your ego talking. You shouldn't have to feel like the most important person to your friend. If your ego is that fragile, it'll be threatened when your wife has your child or meets a new female friend she's excited about. It's not healthy to expect someone to make you the center of their universe. You can't actually get your self-esteem that way and to try will be a disappointing endeavor as well as having that expectation quickly leads to abuse. You need help, seriously. This is my professional opinion as a therapist.

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

@@melindawolfUS nah, I'm talking about a friendship with a woman that I find attractive, while I am also single. In that case, if I found her attractive, and we liked eachother enough to be friends, I would be wondering why exactly she didn't find me attractive enough to date. But in many cases, there is an obvious answer, such as, they're in a relationship, or they live too far away, in which case I'm not bothered. so personally, I'm a young man and I have a few female friends, but they are all either in a relationship, live far away, or I don't find them attractive. All of the other girls, I have either pursued, or left alone. But my first relationship ended amicably, and we remained best friends for months after, however I was left thinking the whole time whether or not she wanted to come back to the relationship (I was very naive and deluded) so it kept getting worse and worse for me until it ended in catastrophe. And so I have learned that trying to be friends with women you find attractive is a masochistic way of life, at least if you're not in a healthy relationship with your own woman already. It's not that I want or need to feel like the most important person to my friend, it's just that, specifically as a heterosexual man, I feel like a relationship with a woman (a healthy one) is better in every way than a friendship, so there's no reason not to pursue one with someone you are close enough to be good friends with, if both are single and attractive. But if that fails to happen, the resulting friendship becomes one sided.

@melindawolfUS 11 месяцев назад

@@aceman0000099 you seem to have major blind spots. You don't consider not taking it personally if your female friend isn't also attracted to you. She has to have some excuse outside of her own preferences to be acceptable to you??? It's not all about you. What you said seems pretty narcissistic. It's only your expectation not being met that tortures you, not the friend. If your guy friend were gay and he gets a crush on you, do you owe him a relationship if you're single? No. Duh. So you think of women as less than fully human. I recommend you quit watching *prawn* and go to talk therapy to help you with that.

@jmlkhan5153 7 лет назад

I had a casual hook-up. Later, she became a regular booty call. Eventually, she became a good friend, that I sometimes bang. Now, she's my best friend. I have little doubt that as time goes on, we are gradually and unspokenly going to just naturally become life-partners. There will never be a conversation about it. Relationships are weird. They take a lot of different forms.

@michaelkoech3365 7 лет назад

jamie kendall Still going on good?

@LACwriter 6 лет назад

That actually sounds pretty cool, man. I'm happy for your... Relationship?

@dire9619 6 лет назад

I would recommend actually becoming partners. Because you guys already went threw a hook up.. Thing? You'll still be friends if you ended up ending the relationship, so there's no point of not.

@user-fu6ct3tc1c 6 лет назад

al peteria I don't think that's a good idea. since everything else came unspoken to them, they shouldn't actively try to become partners because it will ruin the flow of their relationship. if it's meant to be, it'll come by itself. no need to push it. Plus, not many people keep in touch after break ups, even if they were good friends. it's just not worth the risk, man.

@xanderotp 6 лет назад

jamie kendall you're a lucky, my ex made a pledge to save herself till marriage. Even I play the waiting game with my friends who are the opposite sex as I keep it very cool.

@ireysword 7 лет назад

the part about "just friends" really hit me because i've been saying this shit for years. if i even mention just meeting a guy no matter who it is, a collegue, a friend etc. my mom will instantly think that there is something romantic going on or that i want it to be romantic. personally i value friendships a lot higher that romantic relationships. when i hear how people talk about their spouses and what they expect of them all i could think is that they would never talk like this about their friends. shit they would probably punch the person who talks like this about their friends. I'd rather never have a permanent romantic partner than never have a long lasting friendship. we expect so different things from friendships and relationships yet one is supposed to be more important than the other? they both involve loving someone but it's so different kinds of love that it pisses me off to no end when people say they are "just" friends. Be friends. celebrate that friendship. treasure it. cause chances are it will outlive almost all of your relationships

@owenbevt3 7 лет назад

A long term partner should hopeful become your best friend. However that kind of sucks because losing your partner and bestfrined in one go is something no-one should go through.

@joshviator7365 7 лет назад

Iris Hildebrandt Are you really complaining about your mother being enthralled with your love life? Literally everyone's mom does that, male or female.

@ireysword 7 лет назад

Josh Viator than that's a fundemental problem. because it's not just my mom. it's coworkers, it's friends and none of them react like that when I'm out with a female. which just shows that they forget or ignore the fact that a person isn't necessarily heterosexual. plus my mom knows i hate this kinda questioning. also shouldn't other things in my life interest her more? i mean yes she is like that because (i assume) she wants me to be happy but being in a relationship doesn't equal happiness and treating romantic relationships like this is putting immense preassure on a potential partner. you can't expect to find someone who will make you perfectly happy and yet that's what people seem to look for. plus i love my mom but I'd never would want to treat my partner like she does. so valuing her opinion when it comes to romance is a no go anyway. hell she thinks i have too high expectations when it comes to a partner when all i want is someone who treats others with respect and is ready to listen to other opinions than their own. also decent personal hygiene. that's also important.

@owenbevt3 7 лет назад

'you can't expect to find someone who will make you perfectly happy and yet that's what people seem to look for' total agree. The BS 'love songs' (actual about unhealthy dependency) pumped out constantly by most radios have a lot of the blame. I am subjected to them constantly at work and can see now how they totally screwed with my hopes and expectations when I was younger.

@joshviator7365 7 лет назад

Iris Hildebrandt Well that rambling had almost nothing to do with what I said, but there's no "fundamental problem" with a mother caring about your love life. Like you said, she just wants you to be, and if you're in love, you're definitely going to be happy. I'm gay, but so what if people assume I'm straight? You can't tell if someone's gay just from looking at them. In addition to that, we're also a minority, so it makes sense that people assume someone's straight. It's not like it actually hurts you or me. It sounds more like you dislike your mom's interest in your relationships than anything else.

@MuddyRacco0n 7 лет назад

Staying "just" friends and not starting a relationship with my best female friend was the wisest shit I have ever done.

@mq8858 4 года назад

Maybe... maybe not...

@dani010203stor 3 года назад

thats a person who will be there for you, for always:)

@kurtpunchesthings2411 2 года назад

I mean I'm no expert I remember my mother once telling me that men and women can't be platonic friends without one or both being attracted to the other person unless ig there both gay or something not sure how true this is but like as a guy if I was hanging out with a female friend assuming I had any well no shit I'd fall for her eventually cause like being near a person for an extended period of time and such

@strawberrymilk607 2 года назад

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Not really though, I'm straight and I don't feel attracted to my male friends and vice versa. Tbh it's annoying when parents say that you can't have a friendship with someone if they're a different gender-- like just bc someone is straight doesn't mean they'll have a crush on every single man/woman they get along with :/

@epicaunleashed8764 2 года назад

@@strawberrymilk607 vice versa isn't true

@para_momal 6 лет назад

I was a female "best man" and I couldn't have been happier to fulfill the role. The question was always asked "Why haven't you two got together?" and I've always given the same answer "We know & respect each to much to ruin it with sex and complications." Now, if I can only find the worst bridesmaid's dress for basically the real life Dumbledore...

@aknopf8173 5 лет назад

How did it go? I hope he liked your knitting patterns :)

@matthewwalker3131 4 года назад

I deeply enjoy that you're considering a male maid of honour compared to "dumbledore"

@ciklopas598 6 лет назад

Back in the 90s I was in the very famous tv show...

@ericortega7342 5 лет назад

Fn,liar.

@OmDhiraj 5 лет назад

What is this? a cross-over episode?

@tom_something 5 лет назад

I've heard of "hey gimme that cartoon reference in the RU-vid comments", but THIS is RIDICULOUS!

@caasy9473 5 лет назад

I fucking love Bojack

@user-wt9ps3mx8t 5 лет назад

Yeah

@janamullinix2037 5 лет назад

I really like ted and martha's relationship, it is so refreshing to see the whole nonsexual male female friend dynamic.

@TravHarrisonTnT 7 лет назад

This series reminds me of Daria for some reason. And that's a good thing tbh.

@btdtpro 7 лет назад

Like Daria, but even more up it's own ass and self-aggrandizing. There were times in Daria when she was shown by others that she'd judged other too quickly, or she was actually the one at fault. This feels like the author's power fantasy of always having an endless stream of "well worded" arguments to display their point of view when talking in public, while being surrounded mostly with people not smart enough to have had the thoughts themselves, but smart enough to quickly realize how smart the author/protagonist is. Though I could be judging too quickly.

@NahedElrayes 7 лет назад

btdtpro Uh...watch episode 3

@steveyrock1 7 лет назад

Travis Lafferty I see it now that you mention it

@themmefatale 7 лет назад

Travis Lafferty same

@Nexiusify 7 лет назад

I feel Daria is more complexly written and not made with the intent to push forward an agenda. I keep seeing the 'This is like Daria' argument but honestly I feel matters are dealt with from many perspectives before the protagonist settles on one, however she even isn't always right. It's up to perspective. This show presents one perspective, yes it discusses the matter at depth but it's not examined from all sides of the argument before settling on a choice. Choice is the key idea in Daria.

@YouB3anz Год назад

Nice to revisit this series after so long. Definitely a gem of it's time. Get a very Bojack-y feel while watching it.

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

Because of the ugly line-art style cartoon and cynical worldview!

@katecleary8290 7 лет назад

This makes me feel a lot less guilty about never being able to see the person I love in a romantic way despite being told so often that if you love someone you have to be in a romantic relationship with them.

@wclark3196 4 года назад

And I'm sure he loves giving you rides to the airport at 5 AM and helping you move, then going home to sleep alone. Stop playing dog in a manger. Set him free.

@ohsnavs 7 лет назад

Martha?! Why did you say that name!?

@that_vivian 7 лет назад

Navs Montoya Best!!

@puckelberry 7 лет назад

This series is consistently great. I love how it echos all the stuff that I think, I dated my best friend briefly because everyone kept saying I should and because of that I kinda lost my best friend. Loving your friends and loving your partner can be the same but its also ok for it to be different

@seanmiller9136 7 лет назад

I think it's cool to date your best friend. I did it twice and we both realized that we we were more importantly friends. We still are and we helped each other find out out what we wanted in romantic relationships. I was going to say life partners, but then I realized that we are still life partners.

@bobbysealejunior6590 7 лет назад

puckelberry I dated a close friend of almost 30 yrs a few yrs back....we barely talk now, and when we do, it's strained and awkward...we spend more time talking about what didn't work and how she's dealing with the fact it didn't, than just being friends like we used to...

@annietrinity1833 7 лет назад

"I love how it echoes all the stuff I think" How do you know it's not the other way around? I mean think about it; who has the upper hand in the direction of how ideas flow? You, one commenter, or Cracked, the source of entertainment? What if your thoughts and feelings are just so well integrated with the internet's zeitgeist, that what you perceive as an original thought is, in fact, just the immediately next logical step of a culture-wide train of thought? You find yourself reflected in the rest of the world because you are just a reflection of your world. After all, this show is art, and the point of art is to create a lasting manipulation of the audience's thought patterns.

@MaedayMisfit 7 лет назад

puckelberry same. I tried telling myself I liked him back because of everyone saying I should, and we dated a few months, and it was fun, but ultimately didn't work out because I loved him as a friend, not a boyfriend. luckily our friendship remained on tact but I regret doing it nonetheless

@DeviantDespot 7 лет назад

Would not have worked out if you didn't date, she would've felt rejected because you never tried it with her. The point is she was looking at you as a partner, if she wanted a friend she would've stayed friends.

@doomzday0011 7 лет назад

Why doesn't Ross the largest of friends just eat all the other friends

@alpacaobsessed9862 6 лет назад

doomzday0011 out here asking the real questions

@ashleighlakomy9314 6 лет назад

Hahah, best quote from Lrrr

@slaymarie_rdh_ntraining 6 лет назад

doomzday0011 is this from futurama

@ashleighlakomy9314 6 лет назад

Yup, quote from Lrrr from Planet Omicron Persei 8

@dani010203stor 6 лет назад

to be honest i always felt it a little insulting that no guy would want to be my friend but many would want to date me. I have no male friends, the only ones that i had only wanted to be with me in a romantic way, and it actually makes me sad i'm kind of afraid of making male friends cause (if it's how it has always been) they will try to date me, i will reject them, i will end up losing them and that will really hurt me. cause my friendship is not enough apparently (sorry for the rant)

@PyroNinja713 6 лет назад

If you're a typical straight female and you mostly like girly shit you're not going to find guy friends, unless they're exceptionally feminine, which usually means they're gay. Sorry, but being just friends with people means having common interests and feelings, which normal straight guys, and normal straight girls do not. That's just the way reality works.

@tattooedgirl22 5 лет назад

@@PyroNinja713 You are so fucking wrong on so many levels it's not even funny! I have only one true best friend and he is a guy. Actually my boyfriend is also mu best friend but that's besides the point. Me and Tyler have been friends since we were in grade school. We both just turned 29 last month. We are completely different, we are both attractive but we don't see each other in that way. We have somewhat common interests but at the same time like I said we're complete opposites! and I see him at least once a week and talk to him multiple times a week and that hasn't changed since we were little kids. I have multiple girlfriends who have best friends that are guys. Douchebag men like yourself are the reason a lot of men don't have friends that are girls! When we were younger Tyler used to get made fun of all the time by men like yourself because "his best friend was a girl that he did not fuck" and it was disgusting! But he wasn't a douchebag and let other people's small minded and stupid opinions affect his friendship with me. So please stop telling this poor girl who has had bad luck because a lot of guys are pigs... that "she can't have a best friend that's a guy because that's the way the world works" That's the way the world works for you and any other person who thinks like you. You construct your own world views and that's why you think like that. And also you let other ignorant people cloud your judgement or change your thoughts and ideas on certain subjects as well. There are more people who don't agree with you in this world than do, thank the gods! To anyone who believes his bullshit please don't! His view is a typical douchebag male view on this subject!

@tattooedgirl22 5 лет назад

Please read the comment I left for the douchebag that tried to say you can't have a best friend that's a guy! Yes you can girl and don't let anyone tell you different!

@tattooedgirl22 5 лет назад

@@PyroNinja713 I also forgot to add that my best friend Tyler is a typical manly guy that is not feminine in any way. He likes to work out and go fishing and spend a lot of time in the woods. And I'm a typical girly girl who loves girly shit. I don't do any of the activities mentioned above with him so that proves your theory wrong that we have to have common interests like that to be best friends. It also doesn't matter if you're straight bisexual or gay. That has absolutely nothing to do with a guy and a girl being best friends! Lmfao

@PyroNinja713 5 лет назад

@@tattooedgirl22 lmao, triggered much? It must be because you're so full of shit.

@elizabeth184 7 лет назад

People think that being a couple is separate to being friends. The fundamental core of a long term relationship is being friends with that person. Even if you fell in love at first sight, even if you feel lust for them, ...the most important thing is friendship. Being in a relationship isn't any different to being in a friendship.

@6000countingdown 7 лет назад

I'm consistently impressed with how simultaneously comedic, poignant, and intelligent these videos are. Cracked has really stumbled on a gem with Subnormality's videos.

@adiahaalexander9359 7 лет назад

"Oh I'm *MAID* of Honor" holy shit I busted out laughing at that

@lizziek9517 6 лет назад

I've always had a hard time being friends with guys. Even when I'm clear at the beginning that I'm not interested in dating or anything sexual, in time they become jealous, time consuming, and angry that I won't put out. It's hard... I understand those guys thought if they just kept spending time with me, that it would change into romance. But maybe they should've just taken the No at the beginning as the answer.

@nt300uk 7 лет назад

This whole thing about the "friend zone" always bugs me. The way the term was used in Friends meant having romantic designs on someone who just considered you a friend. Alice is romantically interested in Bob, but Bob just thinks of Alice as a friend. Nothing wrong with being friends, but clearly a monogamous romantic relationship is something that a lot of people are searching for, and when that feeling isn't reciprocated, it sucks, even if you have a great friendship. That's all it meant. In as much as it was derogatory, it was in that it was a pitying description of Alice. It certainly wasn't ever intended to criticise Bob. When Joey tells Ross "you waited too long, and now you're in the friend zone", we aren't meant to hate Rachel for putting him there, we're laughing at Ross for having a crush on someone who doesn't like him back. Outside of a very narrow field within internet culture, that's how people use it. Virtually nobody uses it to mean Bob manipulating Alice into doing stuff for him while keeping his romantic affection just out of reach - it's just a term used to describe the very real situation of not having romantic interests reciprocated by a platonic friend. And even if the phrase has changed its meaning, that's not a reflection of the way Friends meant it.

@sethobannion3149 7 лет назад

Yeah, the problem is that there were a lot of angry Alices on the internet griping about their Bobs, and thus the reactive SJW types equated friendzone with sex entitlement, even going so far as to claim that the friendzone doesn't even exist.

@diegorivera9090 7 лет назад

That's why they mentioned Oppenheimer...as in they started something that they couldn't control.

@samue1991 7 лет назад

So true. People use to smear guys and girls. If a girl "friendzones" a guy, people say she's an evil b*tch who is just manipulative. If a guy feels friendzoned, he's a soulless douche bag who only wants her for sex. Honestly you can be in the friend zone with the only intention of being romantically involved because you have feelings for them, not because you just want non committed sex

@MamaMOB 7 лет назад

Sam Carmack the term "friendzone" is only used when a simple friendship isn't enough for one person, usually the man but not always. No one ever said they want commitment free sex. What's been said is that they are ONLY friends with someone to turn the relationship into more. If a person is ok with being friends with a person they have romantic feelings for they just call it being their friend.

@ramdattaropemaker9009 7 лет назад

>It certainly wasn't ever intended to criticise Bob. Except thats what it ended up being. Other Alices, who *did* have this weird entitlement to sex with Bob starting co-opting the lexicon. And here we are.

@filippap330 7 лет назад

I would have been so pissed if they kissed at the end

@jmaan3 7 лет назад

I honestly thought thats where they were going with it, throwin us a curveball. But no just the usual messages.

@FelicitasSews 7 лет назад

It would have been "the usual message" if they did kissed at the end. It also would have negated the entire point of the video.

@METALZero2 7 лет назад

for young people, especially of the female sex, the usual is what happened (no kissing). What you are referring to is what older generations (>35) consider usual.

@kajun316 7 лет назад

at the end , 6:34 , you can see the M + T in a heart at the back of the bench though. Her name is martha (M) and his Ted (T)... sooooo jussayin

@Chazbc 7 лет назад

A heart can still mean platonic love.

@dummy9060 5 лет назад

Anyone else notice Jeremy before and after the transition?

@xandersalamander8182 5 лет назад

I just paused the video looking for this comment!!

@tsubijohn6310 5 лет назад

Tf😶

@steiner3626 4 года назад

Larissa Tiberi he changed genders?

@alleyway8627 4 года назад

@@steiner3626 he's trans

@danniruthvan3265 4 года назад

Oh man! I didn’t even notice.

@JCstone1000 5 лет назад

Something that 90% of guys need to get through their head is that ending up being friends with a girl is not "losing". If you bear this in mind whilst dating, you're dating life will be so much more fulfilling and there will be a lot less pressure.

@LionelLordOfTheThundercats 5 лет назад

It is losing if that is not what you wanted. Look at it like you went in for a job interview and did not get the job, so you took a position as an intern hoping that it would lead to a permanent position and you end up working their for free. No matter if you enjoy the work or not, that was not your goal, so you lose. And even worse in when you see someone else get the job you were working so hard to get.

@LionelLordOfTheThundercats 5 лет назад

@@thomasdixon8656 Of course I have female friends, because my comment was not that men and women can be friends, it was that if you set out to be more then friends and you are push into only being friends then you are losing because you have a relationship that you don't want. It is possible to get to know women that you don't want to be involved with romantically and that is not the friend zone, that is just friendship.

@maarten452 Год назад

Oh it's losing alright. if you wanted to have a relationship more than friends with her it's losing, because she's not attracted to you and doesn't want to take things further. The best thing you can do then as a guy is to just move on to the next girl if you aren't interested in being friends with that girl. But the reason that you said 90% of guys is because the other 10% doesn't struggle with the friendzone, you know why? Because they're part of the small pool of men that women are attracted to sexually so they don't even have to try, meanwhile the rest has to pick up the scraps. And the reason it's like this is because most women have the freedom to pick/choose any guy they want. They should be grateful for that. Also YOUR dating life not "You're" (Don't know who taught you English) Your dating life will NOT be much more fulfilling if you think that you're not losing when friend zoned, because you'll just be friends forever with that one girl never moving on, hoping she might like you one day, but she won't. She will never.

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

Plus the whole relationship would be built on the fact that you thought she was good enough, but she doesn't think you're good enough for her, so there's a clear social imbalance which is a bad dynamic.

@chunificationify 5 месяцев назад

Holy shit no, that is the absolute losing state, it would be horrible

@jmaan3 7 лет назад

Damnit why do I keep coming back to this show? It always either makes me depressed or feel bad about myself.

@emanym 7 лет назад

It makes me feel old.

@seanmiller9136 7 лет назад

Learning moment?

@joseaguilar3323 7 лет назад

What was depressing about this one? Seemed very uplifting to me.

@panchodelocho9503 7 лет назад

José Aguilar hes the guy who believes in the friendzone

@sebasfavaron 7 лет назад

This just makes you think about your life. You should really make time for yourself one day in the middle of the countryside and see how the thoughts just come poooouring in. It's actually necessary to do it from time to time I find

@tamily4663 6 лет назад

Have you noticed ted's name tag at thr graduation is HI MY NAME IS WHAT? MY NAME IS WHO?? MY NAME IS

@neosoontoretro 7 лет назад

I know this is meant to ironic, but it actually reflects what real people think. They think that the "friend zone" was invented by Friends. But it wasn't, Friends just gave it name. Unrequited love has been around since... forever.

@txmilxssi7803 6 лет назад

that's the whole point of the video..? the term Friend zone is in discussion here, not the actual meaning behind it

@8Rincewind 6 лет назад

neosoontoretro also the Friend Zone does not equal unrequited love. If you actually loved somebody that "just" wanted to be friends then you would fucking cherish that friendship. Instead as soon as guys find out a girl doesn't want to fuck or date them, they lose interest. They talk it up like it's love and they imagine they're the "Ross and Rachel" of their world, but really they're just self centred dicks.

@seignee 6 лет назад

8Rincewind I feel kinda bad cos I was in that situation where I was best friends with a guy and I liked him but he didn't feel the same way. I kept seeing comments like this when I was asking for advice on the friendzone and instead of facing the reality I still liked him, I pretended that I already moved on because I was "supposed" to cherish the friendship and that I should be "satisfied" with that. A year later after that, I got so choked I couldn't continue the friendship. So I told him the truth and he told me he always knew I still had feelings for me but he wanted to get closer, so he insisted it was his fault... But we did end on good terms. We had a proper closure just to make sure everyone was on the same page. 1 month later I'm still tempted to MESSAGE him again telling him I miss him. But it would just break the promise I made to him and myself... and I don't want his girlfriend to get hurt.

@Error0101 6 лет назад

8Rincewind Yeah, but sometimes staying around that person, especially after they find someone, hurts. It hurts to be around them, and it's unhealthy.

@DavidRodriguez-ux5ye 6 лет назад

8Rincewind emm not really I have been friendzoned twice and in both cases I am still friends with both of them yeah I took a time off while I tried to loose those felings but then I returned to the friendzone

@follyscaldare8349 6 лет назад

I so needed to see this. Geez thank you for bringing this to the world.

@charliemaddick4532 7 лет назад

Dammit, this series- I've never related to something so much before. I literally drop everything when a new episode comes in.

@watcher314159 7 лет назад

I had a crush and was friendzoned pretty hard (that day I learned why it's called heartbreak). But I knew that the friendship we had was extremely valuable in itself, and even though it was sometimes hard to keep my emotions in check and relatively untangled, I put in that effort gladly. All of my other friends were kind of in awe of this response, and while not everyone responded positively with my decision, I think I helped some of them change their perceptions of themselves and relationships, simply by, as I thought of it at the time, making the mature decision. Even though she's since moved away and we haven't really kept in contact, I still love her, both romantically and as one of the best friends I've ever had. And while both of those emotions are valuable, I think we all know which one I treasure more. People Watching is consistently one of the best series on the internet, clever and insightful, funny but not so much that it's distracting, and mature to an extent that I've not seen except in a couple of other places. Oh, and When Harry Met Sally is as much to blame for the whole friendzoning problem in our society as FRIENDS.

@kikijo1683 6 лет назад

This show is so good. Thank you guys for creating.

@PlasmaMongoose 7 лет назад

So the Friend zone is someone who doesn't ever shut up about late 20th century TV shows.

@zyaicob 4 года назад

Hell is other people essentially

@Mike-schmike 7 лет назад

this is probably the first series i've been excited for new episodes. I love most cracked things, but sometimes it's pop culture references I don't understand/follow. This series is just about being a person - and i've been a person for ages now, so I can usually relate.

@PurpleGeminite 7 лет назад

I really want to meet the people behind this cartoon and the Cracked office one day. Cracked is just one of those channels that makes awesome content and supports others that make awesome stuff, like this show. Thank you for existing Cracked, you always make my day.

@MissAnitaGuerra 6 лет назад

You guys keep getting better!! So proud of you!!!

@drewechols83 7 лет назад

0:31 Jeremy before he transitioned

@Zforce911 7 лет назад

As someone who lost a best friend by giving in to societal pressure and trying to invest in a relationship... this hit home. I think about her everyday... I really wish I knew this was an option back then.

@FrankieSmileShow 7 лет назад

These have all been really good so far. Damn cracked, why you keep putting out good things

@HyddenMith 7 лет назад

I love these videos more than I thought I would. It's heartfelt, and relate-able, and complex. Thanks

@Revy8 6 лет назад

this series hits home so hard every time; funny and relatable. great work!

@finx1582 7 лет назад

Have a great day everyone!

@cracked 7 лет назад

Hey! Thanks!

@midnightconfections3991 7 лет назад

Positivity supported by more positivity. I hope we get to a point where this becomes the internet norm

@AnthorAlderian 7 лет назад

These videos are like little pills of anti-anxiety. Thank you so much for making them.

@cragnog 7 лет назад

such love put into these videos and it comes across so well

@marionetteraconteur 7 лет назад

I prefer "platonic life partners"

@Crimsontears83 7 лет назад

why do people feel "friendzone" is so sexist against women? women can't be friendzoned? i've done it quite a few times. i have female friends (who i never woke up naked next to either) who have complained to me how this guy that they're really into friendzoned them. I know this is (mostly) satire but i'm getting tired of people who dont know much about people or life acting like they know people and life. That being said i still love this show and the mirror it holds up to society. While i dont agree with every "sjw hipster millennial yadda yadda yadda" thing they say its still nice to have the conversation. Also the reason people ask about relationships is on a basic level that's why we have male and female. for procreation. (hell, not like gay people can avoid the question)we only made up all the feelings and social things we complain about now. we're still just animals.

@izzy1221 7 лет назад

Why is she holDING FRIES IN HER PALM LIKE THAT. SHOW RUINED. GOODBYE. (Jk)

@garfieldbiggestfan3443 7 лет назад

Isagail Carshuen cURSED.

@Mikol_Billy 7 лет назад

Isagail Carshuen lmao that's exactly what I was thinking. Like. Stop

@InteractiveIdea 7 лет назад

Isagail Carshuen lol

@mdwdirect 6 лет назад

Omg these are so incredibly good.

@tiamelancholyjeoncockity 5 лет назад

they are seriously friendship goals, wish I had a friend like that to talk about all the deep stuff and weird things about this society

@jean-paulaudette9246 4 года назад

I wouldn't call this show funny, per say, but I'm definitely impressed with the honesty & courage, and insight herein. Also, good animation, which often makes me happy just on it's own. Thanks for the work. I hope it helps a lot of people. I can see that potential in it.

@Microfoot 7 лет назад

I don't think it's as simple as the friend zone not existing, it just doesn't exist in the way that those kinds of assholes think it does. It's not some deliberate attempt by women to manipulate men or anything. It's simply when one person has feelings for their friend and for whatever reason it doesn't go anywhere yet they still remain friends. Simple as that, and it has nothing to do with gender. I'm a guy and I had a friend who was interested in me, and for a number of reasons I never returned those feelings so nothing became of it. Eventually we drifted apart, but for a while I did put her in the friend zone.

@owenbevt3 7 лет назад

Yes this is true I can confrime as someone who was often 'friendzoned' when young and immature and acted as a dickhead about it but also more recently as a full (kinda)balanced adult and been sad but ultimately ok and remained genuinely valued friends.

@michaelwolf8690 7 лет назад

The problem with this thinking is how awkwardly it fits the nomenclature. When you are put in a state it is not within your control or by your choice. If you could say that your friend wandered aimlessly and found herself in the friendzone but what we're talking about is someone being put in a role they aren't consenting to. Your friend desired a romantic relationship but you placed her in a different role regardless of the romantic overtures or personal sacrifices she made trying to demonstrate her love. She's not an asshole for thinking she should be a voluntary partner in her relationship with you.

@balls261 7 лет назад

Exactly. It's funny how it's become some sort of misogynist thing to many people because I think - originally at least - it's more harmless than that in nature. Sure there are douche bags who do just think women owe them sex because they were nice to them, but that's not what the friendzone is to me. The friendzone applies to both genders equally and it's a real thing that everyone goes through at one point or another, usually in high school or something. I wonder what all these feminists who think the friendzone means that specific definition of emotional manipulation call it when they have a crush on their friend who doesn't reciprocate, because that's all the friendzone really is. I don't get how it became so distorted and malicious so quickly.

@Microfoot 7 лет назад

I didn't force her to be my friend, though. She had the option of choosing not to be my friend, which is what she eventually did once she gave up.

@michaelwolf8690 7 лет назад

Then how did you "put her in the" friendzone? For that matter how was she in the Friendzone at all if her interest wasn't being exploited?

@joeyalfaro2323 6 лет назад

thank you so much for making these there great

@articwolf8377 7 лет назад

Thanks for the upload

@jtal3292 7 лет назад

So happy to see Subnormality getting more exposure. Good ideas done well. Favorite of the comics is called Sand Witch. Helped me a lot.

@jonathanaugustin647 7 лет назад

I'm pretty sure both sexes get "friend-zoned", though the animation seems to imply that it's one sided. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with feeling hurt over unrequited love... it doesn't make you a bad person. It's about how one reacts to it.

@lordmew5 6 лет назад

Jonathan Augustin this isn't a review this is a character im sure the author knows both sides can occur but THIS character obviously dislikes the men side a little more and that is natural these characters are made with flaws thats the charm of the show and i agree its fine to be hurt by unrequited love but you cant blame it on the other person you should never expect a romantic relationship because a platonic relationship works really well

@markneillmusic9082 6 лет назад

Jonathan Augustin I agree I despise how some people believe they are entitled to relationship just because they are nice to someone else or they think they would be good together. It is understandable to be saddened by the fact that you have been rejected that's natural when you get angry over it that's when it is a problem

@hannahstork6398 6 лет назад

I took this video to be about the way plutonic male-female relationships are viewed, rather than about the experience of unrequited love. And about how friendship isn't less meaningful/needed as romantic relationships

@Szarko32c 6 лет назад

It is one sided. Guys chase multiple girls, girls can chose multiple partners. So a girl will always be in a relationship, while guys will be in friendzone in most cases.

@theluckypoptart2945 6 лет назад

It's not wrong to feel hurt but it is to just be there waiting for them to fall for you. Most of the time that won't happen. It's just one person who thinks they have a good friend and one who has feelings. Most not good feelings. Yeah there's love but you also end up with resentment, anger and jealousy. It's best to just cut ties if you can't get past the feelings.

@mecrive 7 лет назад

This show makes me feel really understood :) Also I really like how you can see them grow into the person they are today. It took a while for me to figure out that they are the same people who had also been in the other People Watching videos.

@HuanjianLin 4 года назад

this is so pure. I love it

@allisondoak9425 7 лет назад

My best friend and I are both straight women but I love her more than anyone. Idk I've never experienced the mutual desire to be in a romantic relationship with a guy but I can't imagine that ever being more important than my relationship with her, like possibly comparably important but yea. Romantic relationships are put on such a pedestal and like we're a social animal and we're capable and in need of multiple deep relationships.

@KD-ou2np 2 года назад

... ummm? It kinda sounds like you're romantically in love with your best friend?

@Ronicalter 7 лет назад

Damn . This series is really good so far.

@stonepatberg 6 лет назад

Why is this series so amazing

@yhomethej4148 6 лет назад

I absolutely loved this video and also great choice in music

@mikececconi2677 7 лет назад

WHAT DID YOU SAY? MARTHA! MY PLATONIC BEST FRIEND IS MARTHA! THAT'S MY DAD'S PLATONIC BEST FRIEND'S NAME!

@CaptBackwards 6 лет назад

Mike Cecconi spoilers much

@freiherrchaos2549 5 лет назад

Love

@Eric-yt7fp 7 лет назад

Legit awesome cartoon.

@ericgonzalez934 6 лет назад

I only found this series yesterday night but now it is one of my favorites incredibly well made

@gwenbattram1563 5 лет назад

Love your program!

@desmondcastillo9215 5 лет назад

Idk why but this show gives me hella bojack horseman vibes

@aniqaibu032 7 лет назад

people watching is legit my favorite series on this channel

@uritibon17 6 лет назад

Thanks creators of "people watching". This show really helps me organise my thoughts and understand myself a bit better.

@randomness8819 4 года назад

I love this. Its so true. A fruend in the long run is so much more valuable than the temporary relationships that come and go.

@hectroinfectro 7 лет назад

Coining a term does not constitute the invention of a concept.

@Kagamid 7 лет назад

Why is she slowly hovering away from him when she notices the other guy at the bar?

@geneirai 7 лет назад

because she wants to hook up with the other guy at the bar

@carnivoriousleaf 7 лет назад

Based on my interpretation, she wants a romantic relationship with her friend. She scared to admit it/be direct (anxiety and missed communications seems to be a theme in these animations) so she is moving closer to the unnamed bar-person to see if it gets a response out of the person she feels romantic feelings towards.

@user-xe5dn5xy4k 7 лет назад

I think she just wants to delve into the Baskin Robbins, that'd sorta take from the whole point anyway... No matter how thickly it was layed on.

@damiwilliams267 5 лет назад

because she wants to fuck that other guy

@Mothman1992 5 лет назад

Because she's waiting for her opportunity to break away from bff to get f'd in the b

@wulfleyn6498 5 лет назад

Uhm, wow just wow, this video is really well made and I really liked it. Thank you for making this.

@emmafloop2890 6 лет назад

I keep rewatching these videos. Can't wait until season 2

@thenoremac2685 7 лет назад

The friendzone isn't a case of "you should have sex with me because I'm nice to you". It's about unrequited attraction/love between friends. Have you ever fallen in love with a close friend only for it to blow up in your face because they don't feel the same way? It sucks... a lot.

@fairy5668 Год назад

Yeah but it's not BECAUSE they see you as a friend, even if they say it is. It's because they just aren't. interested. in. that. way. They don't even need a reason to not be interested. They just aren't.

@mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr Год назад

@@fairy5668 Well said.

@ichsehnursoaus Год назад

Yes and that's when one better takes a time out from the friendship.

@mikhailstewart Год назад

The friendzone doesnt exist. If your intention is to be friends then be friends. If it's unrequited love.. then that's something totally different

@aceman0000099 11 месяцев назад

@@mikhailstewartwhy is unrequited love not 'the friendzone'?

@decoydamsel 7 лет назад

What I find so frustrating about being friends with guys is that they almost always treat our friendship like a way to get into a relationship or they keep me around as an "option". Or even just springing their feelings on me all of a sudden and after I turn them down they think everything is going to go back to the way it was before. No matter how clear I make my intentions I can never feel 100% comfortable because they always want to read my friendship as interest in more. It just makes me so uncomfortable.

@Zeecarver 7 лет назад

it's because you're a decoy

@ryanwebb4045 7 лет назад

DecoyDamsel i can see ur perspective but if a guy is interested in a woman hes not going to want to keep it as just a friendship because it feels like hey im literally nvr gonna be intimate with you now watch as i am with someone else

@user-qz2ld3vt2d 7 лет назад

rage of achilles, that isn't true. You will pick up these pheromones on the first time as well. I have many girls with whom i am just friends. It is just not true. Especially because according to your logic you will fall for everybody. ps. pheromones do not only influence male behavior, unless you can show me a study that there is more of an effect on male behavior. If there isn't such a study woman and man should be equally affected by the pheromones.

@user-qz2ld3vt2d 7 лет назад

rage of achilles, that is in your own wording only the case if he is closer to an other girl. This doesn't mean that you wont be able to get into a relationship, but it means it will be harder right? Anyway, i gladly remain a virgin for ever if i have the choice between that or losing my friends.

@-Zakhiel- 7 лет назад

Well... stop having so much men friends... Problem solved.

@jakevs.theworld2987 7 лет назад

This is one of the best RU-vid series out there

@tristanclement5533 6 лет назад

Being the kind of person who enjoys long discussions that tend to be about life issues over any kind of small talk bs, these videos are really good in my opinion.

@Thagomizer 4 года назад

I understand and appreciate the subtle dynamics of male/female friendships that aren't romantic. I also understand that it's misguided to for a lonely young man to "girlfriend zone" a woman he's interested in. But seriously--these guys deserve our compassion, not our scorn or contempt.

@TheMightyEskimo 7 лет назад

Because no one asked: The song at the end is Charlotte by Sam Weber. You're welcome

@henrydang4366 6 лет назад

TheMightyEskimo you magnificent human being thank you!

@the_gypsy_guyy 4 года назад

TheMightyEskimo Thanks!

@ditzfough 4 года назад

Id like to say. This video was beautifully written and thought out.

@evolvetravel1 4 года назад

sweetest thing I've ever watched...

@abyy1619 6 лет назад

Soulmates: souls bound together Romance is irrelevant

@wishbone346 7 лет назад

I agree with the overall message that you can be friends and it isn't a bad thing, but I do think it's important to state that it's okay for someone to not be okay with being "just friends" as well. I mean some people aren't going to be okay with having un-reciprocated romantic feelings, and to ask them to just keep hanging out with that person like nothing happened or to ask the person who doesn't reciprocate the feelings to do the same if it makes them uncomfortable is just stupid. It's not cool to demonize people over their feelings, man.

@geneirai 7 лет назад

little bit of life advice; if someone doesn't return your romantic affection, get the fuck over yourself. no one owes you jack shit, least of all 'romantic love'

@wishbone346 7 лет назад

geneirai No, they don't owe you anything but you don't owe them anything either. If you have no desire to "just be friends" then you shouldn't have to be. You're a hypocrite if you think otherwise, bub.

@DavidRodriguez-ux5ye 7 лет назад

wishbone346 specially if you see that person suffering specially if it is for love and you will never or in a very long term end that love if you see her every day

@Locopueblo 6 лет назад

This channel is brilliant.

@lucielle9412 5 лет назад

I love this so much 💕

@Mandrake_root 6 лет назад

Oh my God I love this

@Dats_Mark 6 лет назад

This is the worst episode of Beavis and Butthead I've ever seen

@cooldude11ization 7 лет назад

I honestly really enjoyed this episode. It was interesting.

@grrrrrrr0 7 лет назад

i think this is one of my favorite videos in the world- content, animation, music and everything

@the1stsinisterbra 7 лет назад

omg I JUST noticed the waitress! must rewatch everything for more waster eggs! I love how diverse and inclusive this show is!

@razvantugulea2898 4 года назад

Most people don’t understand such friendship between a guy and a girl, because the most of them never had it. It’s a valuable and unique experience in life, so I guess ... you can’t win them all.

@elijahpaden4151 2 года назад

I love seeing this examined so much. People do talk about this some, but not near as much as they should. And I have different views on some of this than this video does, but that's not what matters, what matters is that the idea is there.

@alfonsoherrera1267 5 лет назад

This was so good, wtf why did i watch this. I'm in literal tears

@johnyliltoe 7 лет назад

I'm so confused! How do people use the term friendzone? I've only ever used it for a situation where I, or someone else, develops romantic feelings for a close friend but it's one sided. Not an extension of that BS idea that men and women can't be "just friends". Then again, I generally prefer hanging around women, it's too normal for me to have best friends that are female that I'm fine with just being friends.

@saoirsecameron 6 лет назад

Johnyliltoe the way I’ve generally heard it used is in situations where a person (usually a cis guy) makes advances towards another person (usually a cis woman) that are constantly misinterpreted as purely platonic. This is often but not always accompanied by mysoginistic beliefs such as “nice guys finish last” and “women only date jerks”. In and of itself the concept of unrequited love or misinterpretation of ambiguous behavior isn’t that problematic. Who hasn’t fallen in love with a friend before? Unfortunately however, it’s been latched upon by pick up artists and men’s rights advocates as an example of how feminism “oppresses” and “emasculates” men. In reality, the “friend zone” could be avoided in most cases if the person in love were honest and open about their feelings and the person on the receiving end of those affections felt safe and free to turn down the advances if the feelings were not mutual. Unfortunately in many situations men feel that if they are nice enough for long enough that women will eventually have to change their minds, and women are pressured to let people down nicely or give people a chance even if they aren’t interested.

@aidenbelanger7867 6 лет назад

Thank you someone needed to say...I couldn't I suck at speaking.

@vangelbang 6 лет назад

I know someone already gave you the answer but I wanted to add that your idea of what the friend zone was had been correct, however the term got misused by the people mentioned in the explanation the other commenter gave.

@astoriarego8304 6 лет назад

Once Friendzone was used as a verb, it became a toxic concept. It's something a woman "does to" a guy, as if wanting to be friends with him is a slight. As if the default is sexual attraction, and platonic friendship is the state she is forcing on him by not returning his affection. I have seen it used different ways but so often as proof women don't like good guys because they reject them as dates. And if she has been friends with him a while, it's because she is using him for favors and attention. She knows how the guy feels (always) and if she wants to be friends she is just 'stringing him along.' It really doesn't just mean unrequited love anymore. And if it did, that was a brief meaning quickly overshadowed by the toxic one.

@gin3868 6 лет назад

incels and nice guys boi, they took he term and made it super awful

@sarahshoemaker6150 7 лет назад

I actually really love this. One of my best friends is a guy, and people always tell us they "ship it" and it gets really obnoxious when you're friends, and not attracted to one another in the slightest. Friendship is something that should be cherished, not seen as "oh, they're JUST friends" or "he's biding his time, and is so into you."