How Humans Will Eventually Beat Death - People Watching #4 

Ashton Kerr Nor did I friend...nor did I :'(

😂😂😂😢😢😢😭😭😭

Bruh

They stayed friends even after what happened

@@gergenthequietmetalhead4226 They both talked about their regret over how that night went (although not to each other) in other episodes, so I like to imagine they ended up trying again.

THANKS FOR THE SPOILER ALERT. LOVELY.

@@joshyoung1440 Blame yourself for reading the comments before watching a 4 year old series, peeping tom.

spehizle dude your just nail it pure and clean could have said it better myself nice one indeed 👍😁😎

spehizle true

Interesting. I'm not sure if that's what the video has actually pulled off, but I would like to see that idea.

i wish this comment had more visibility

dr Strangelove. That's why I gave its a thumbs up.. I think everyone is picking out all the flaws in the logic, which can be done by any high-school freshman. What people are missing is the subtext, the fact that facts mean nothing without foundation and context. In death you can not say that you are going to be granted an "afterlife" anymore than someone could prove you won't. It's meta as fuq but I like the interpretation.

well i think people can interpret it as they wish

Badger Bill But its not supposed to be interpreted literally. Remeber when the guy had asked "So you really believe this", she didn't say yes or no, she said "I have to" Its all just a coping mechanism. Its to humamize that people you may see as crazy, stupid, or ignorant due to their beliefs. She knows that what shes saying isnt true, but she has to believe it anyway.

Riley Crump srsly can u explain ur interpretation

I am very much a physicist.

who knows... we can not fathom the possibilities this universe has to offer. We could even only know but the tip of a massive ice-burg, we already know that physics is upended the small the scale we go. The larger we go the more complex mathematics we need to explain the universe, maybe eventually we could travel through time, or observe through time, maybe we will be able to digitally transport consciousness little by little until it is entirely digital. maybe we can eventually escape the heat death of the universe.

I am more afraid of being left alone truthfully

Tbh

Jaiden DeChon same

I'm always afraid of the unknown. I'm afraid of all of it, leaving loved ones behind, the dying process and being dead.

I’m afraid of your profile pic 😂

AJW I thought about that too! Black Mirror shows a different types of life after death. Even tho it's a dark themed series it still gives hope. The Twilight Zone did the same. Vanilla Sky (Abre Los Ojos is the original) is similar to San Junipero. I wanna believe that death it's just a version of a different life. That we actually cannot die. Death is just a stage to another level. In a way. Or maybe im thinking too much Black Mirror-ish (:

thegossipswan009 I'm on the sane page with the both of you. I knew it was familiar.

yes!!

@@thegossipswan009 I just accept death and welcome it. Because our existence is equally ludicrous.

oooh baby do you know what thats worth

Nerdfighter803 holy shit

Nerdfighter803 and the comedy...

I should start watching Bojack Horseman...

Halapecia shaniqua ......or the quality, depth, relatability, complexity of character and story, accurate grasp of the basics of philosophy, reason, logic, semantics, and, of course, that certain.........something.......... special...............🎶🎤 'Right, stop that immediately! No musical numbers allowed here, clear out, ya poof!!........' {Bonus points for knowing the origin of the (paraphrased) quote at the end of comment. Movie title, and/or actor/group of actors. Hint: it was pre-1990 AND they're mostly all still alive now!

+DabIMON Sounds like Monty Python.

Do you really think that anything is impossible in an endless universe in an infinite multiverse?

Jim if there is an infinite number of universes, then it stands to be possible where there is a universe without an infinite number of universes. And just to specify, I mean there is a finite number of universes, just a number far beyond human conception

I appreciate your interest in metaphysics Danny. Wouldn't it be acceptable to equate unfathomably large numbers with infinite by human perception? Even a limited number of universes beyond human conception would each individually contain everything we could ever potentially know and do. That's where you truly go infinite, because the causality of each moment of you live contains an infinite number of potential outcomes, even in what you do after reading this comment. Edit: Ultimately this is as moot as anything, but perhaps useful enough to expand the potential choices of at least one reader.

Why do you think that is impossible? Yeah, reviving those who died a long time ago doesn't seem achievable at all, but we can prevent any future deaths.

I'm just now reading this reply, and thank you for elaborating

You know I was thinking about the same thing 😂

You do matter and you're seen.

Yes.

Creativent same. love the episode and the game

Jumping Tuna no it was will the circle be unbroken. I think that will the circle be unbroken was based of amazing grace.

Anarchy 0224 Just listened to it. They both have a similar melody.

Creativent that's what I thought immediately too. Song went well with this episode

Two and a half years later, and it's still making me smile-cry! Hope you're out there somewhere, Winston, reading comments and knowing your stuff is as powerful as ever!

3 years later and this still the most powerful, personal, amazing thing I've watched

6 years later and nothing has changed. Incredibly moving and powerful

7 Years, back again... showing this to new people. Reading Winston's Shirley Estar (as a novel now!) and convincing them to read it too. Coming back to this as the core and best "sales pitch" for their work. Still tearing up.

Candy is an amazing philosophy bae lol

lazerbeam134 what’s her full name so I can google

Pretty sure the voice actress is in the credits of the video but Candy is fictional lol

She's a stripper

@@BrandyIsadora she's an entertainer

I'm wondering if they already knew each other

Jana this isn't like a series they are just characters in a story they don't just have roles they stick too every episode the writers will select roles for each character to set a point like next episode if she is in it she will probably not have a cane

Well she's probably not gonna have the cane forever, her leg's not necessarily completely wrecked, she might make a full recovery eventually :P

I wonder how they first met though

They do stick to their roles, don't they? There's a lot of continuity nods and I haven't seen any serious contradictions, other than Ted who has no friends in the anonymous losers one and then has a best friend since school in another video.

Death is the logical consecuence of life

Life is the equal and opposite reaction to death. Or maybe its other way around, who knows?

@@tieflingcorpse9817 I doubt life is the rule of the unverse, everything seems death to me.

I understand what she is trying to say but someone already conqured death and he is the only way to heaven all men make fail the order of the universe their are being above us in the pecking order.

@@samisyed1584 so you think the alternate universes never created what we have now? the universe is already in order. from that comes chaos. but carry on.

This one time I had a dream about making the afterlife. I made it so everybody could be happy, but not everybody wants the same thing. So I made multiple different realities, all with different things to do so people don't get bored. Everybody was happy, because I was not a piece of shit who made a hell for people. Even "bad" people came, because they just needed healing to be good people. Then I woke up and realized even if there isn't an afterlife I'd be ok dying. In the end, nothing matters. There's no real reason to live.

MQ are you still alive 🥺

mattering is self evident. if nothing matters then it doesnt matter that it doesnt matter and is therefore of no relevance whatsoever. all we are left with is if someone or some people care. if they care then it matters to to thm and they will perform action based on that principle, action and reaction are the principle of any equation. it is therefore relevant. conclusion: everything matters but meaninglessness sorry for my shit spelling.

You're one of those people that calls atheism a religion, aren't you?

SapphireDragon357 Regardless of whether they are or aren't that type of person, that doesn't change that fact that the comment was right. Granted, I thought it was still pretty clear that the video was talking about established religions, but what Otterway said wasn't wrong. The difference between believing in science and what she described is that she was having faith that future science would figure something out, rather than taking the facts and ideas from past science to form a theory.

........ It would take some twisting to think of atheism as, "using faith to project your hopes onto reality." XD

Ninja, well said. You're not a typical youtube commentator. I still disagree that faith in science, past, present, or future, constitutes a religion, but calling people wrong is not an insult. jiroumochizuki, I agree, which is why I hate it when people call atheism a religion. They are wrong, and that is what I was implying about Otterway, which was... judgemental and the worst form of sarcasm, and I'm sorry about that, but it wasn't intended as an insult. I'm a bit caught up in the fact that every comment I see on this video is 'OMG physics, WRONG!' or 'OMG misinformation!' or 'OMG religion!' and nobody is talking about how this is PHILOSOPHICAL discussion, and she's talking about potential, which is not actually any form of energy, of course, but something we want to talk about. What I find so wrong about the original post is that putting your faith in humanity and technology, even if we don't have it yet, even if that means it's currently science fiction, is NOT creating a religion, and to say so is to confuse the difference between religion and belief. Replacing an all-powerful god with all-powerful humanity is exactly what makes it not a religion. I suppose all this is leading up to is a discussion of semantics I don't really want to have. What I'm saying is that I severely dislike the way the OP said what they wanted to say, but I shouldn't have been an ass about telling them that, and they have every right to say it.

I think that was kind of the point. She says that humans need a shield from the bluntness of reality and created religions to deal with death and that they didn´t have the science yet. Then she goes on to do the same thing thus proving her initial point.

I do, however, love the idea that we may be able to retroactively create an afterlife.

That's a really great answer. The energy doesn't go away, it becomes mourning and missing

Ana Colada The more intelligent you are, the better you are at making irrational things sound rational via cascades of "logic". Intelligent people can sometimes trap themselves within their beliefs because of how sturdy their cage of logic is.

To be honest, I believe that it is way too early to even guess where we came from, what made us or where everything goes when we all dies. All we can do, is learn. And maybe, just maybe someday, future humans will know the answer. Perhaps we are not meant to know everything.... and that might be the beauty of life.

Good point. To be honest, I believe that it is way too early to even guess where we came from, what made us or where everything goes when we all dies. All we can do, is learn. And maybe, just maybe someday, future humans will know the answer. Perhaps we are not meant to know everything.... and that might be the beauty of life.

Ana Colada not religious. Spiritual

Ana Colada the first few sentences immediately Gave that off. I’m just gonna assume the rest is bullshit. Seriously, how stupid are you to think that death has anything to do with the Conservation of energy. Straight up red flag.

Mark Smith I doubt they really understand it. Because then they would know that at some point all free energy will be gone resulting in the heat death of the universe

Are you trying to say movies are scientifically inaccurate? Are you suggesting that infact leather armor for the most part is bullshit? Is Spongebob not the most accurate depiction of sealife?

Martin Erhard They're trying to show how humans (especially non-spiritual people who want to be scientific) use what little they know about the universe as a coping mechanism for death.

@@martinerhard8447 heat death isn't the idea that all energy will find evaperate, it's more the idea that all matter will eventually find it's lowest state of entropy so that that nothing other than iron will be able to form. Of course our modern understanding of science is incredible limited, look at proton decay. If that exists we can break entropy

Quantum physics says information CAN'T be destroyed or lost, it must always exist, this includes your consciousness.

BUT WHEN?!?!!?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That whole sequence fucked me up. Can you imagine the sheer existential dread Morty felt?

Think rick and Morty dealt with the topic of death better “Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody’s gonna die. Come watch TV?”

Those 3 statements are an outstanding encapsulation of existential dread - and I have to fight tears most times that part of the episode plays.

Nick G thank you! And also consciousnesses has nothing to do with Newtonian physics. My guess is her idea is closer to quantum or maybe string theory.

Yeah, not only that but they're forgetting the bit in thermodynamics where all systems are constantly approaching entropy, as well as the fact that emotional value and complexity aren't potential energy, and therefore can be created and destroyed. All in all death makes a lot of sense, and according to everything we can observe, it is the end for the consciousness of the organism.

@@tedbrittain9650 I don't think the writers have an engineer, chemist, or theoretical physicist on staff.

Nick G it actually is the same principle, both of them comment on energy

Equal and opposite reactions is actually Newton's Third Law, not the second. Conservation of Energy is also it's own thing, though the first law of thermodynamics is essentially a more specialized form of the same idea. Regardless, it's all just pseudoscience in this case as neither of those deals with consciousness or social interactions. That said, the idea that humanity (or some other species out there) could (or already has) achieved some form of technological immortality and then retroactively applied that to all (sentient?) species of the universe is a far more appealing concept to me than any religion out there. Don't particularly believe it, but at least it doesn't strike me as outright idiocy either.

Amazing little theme and repetition throughout

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You're not the only one bugged by it, but it's not the point of the philosophical discussion being brought up.

Kyle Moe yeah holy shit I get that this wasn't actually about science but hearing her butcher these concepts really made me cringe

I think it's done deliberately to point out she doesn't really know what she's talking about, since this is all some desperate dilusion made to not face that when people die, that's the end. The universe isn't "fair".

it was a failed metaphor for me as well. gave up after and minute into the video. didn't expect it to get better.

marcellXcatalyst true

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> The only girl I've ever loved was murdered I'm very sorry to hear that. You may want to read a graphic novel called "The Crow". The author, James O'Barr, lost his fiance to a drunk driver. He wrote and illustrated the book as a way of expressing his pain. See also "A Contract with God" by Will Eisner. He wrote it after his daughter died.

Your not alone

me too! never thought others thought the same

Scott Thomas Holy shit wait... dying is easy young man, living is harder

Dis boi got it figured out

I know people say that, but I really can't see what they're talking about. Life is shit, but death is nothing.

🎵Dying is easy, young man. Living is harder.🎵

@@zulephizus1212 I'm not your son! ò^ó

Mankind is a People Who have tried to kill each other right from the start of our exsistens. And destroying religion is not going to chance that. Thats how life works.

+David Po Thanks for commenting this, I never knew there was a word for it!

I learn more in the youtube comments section that I ever did in the education system.

and is a fundamentally flawed philosophy, with "science" and "cleverness" creating at least as many problems as they have solved. there is no mankind without nature, and now we are seeing the consequences of 10000 years of breaking the soil and 200 of accelerated industrial catastrophe. we would do well to have some humility, and take our place within our ecosystem rather than trying to dominate and subdue it based on some false notion of superiority.

And every time we have tried to reemplace God, we end up becoming devil.

Mechasshole Most people stopped listening by the end, but thats exactly the thesis of the video.

if you start with the premise of conservation of energy, she has it backwards. Life creates all these things out of nothing. Life makes you crazy, death makes sense.

She doesn't have to believe it though. She could not believe anything, or only believe things for which she has evidence. Am I the only person who can accept the fact that when we die, nothing lives on and there is no escape? Does everyone else just come up with personalized lies to comfort themselves? Death can be scary, but that is no reason to accept the idea that it won't happen, or that we can escape the repercussions of death somehow (afterlife, reincarnation, being brought back by future science, etc.). Forgetting any mention of science in the video, it is the emotional sentiment that I find repugnant- if you don't like the way reality makes you feel, just lie to yourself until you feel better.

Blame Toby Videos that doesn't excuse anything. There is so much more wrong with this then the science. The person in the video is extremely self absorbed. Her ideas about society are disgusting. I've seen 8 year olds with a better handle on death. People are not special snowflakes, our ideas, the sum of an individual are insignificant compared to the universe. Humanity it self is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. There needs to be less people like this.

It's a CHARACTER, not a person, she's been written to have these flaws, like so many of us do, not to be right or wrong, but to present a human experience and explain it - the point as far as I am aware is that the character finds it difficult to rationalise the loss that death presents, not just hers, but of other people, so to cope she is rationalising death with her theory, which she compares in part to religion and even admits that she knows it's bullshit, but if she didn't have this hope she would go crazy trying to face her own mortality.

Final Synapse how is she self absorbed? I'm honestly curious. I want you to link to a point where she doesn't care about anyone els and only thinks of herself.

well if she was gonna talk about her insights about death and what she feels about her mortality, there is no need to add a clickbait title, a claim early in the video, and scientific concepts that are not directly related to the topic at hand

A. She's not self absorbed. She says that she's not concerned about her death, and then we see a bunch of examples of unnecessary, meaningless deaths. B. This theory is not impossible. We know that, according to physics, that there's no difference between past, present, future, and that time travel is theoretically possible. We know that artificial realities can be created. We are working on understanding what thought and memories are. We are working on how to insert an actual mind into a virtual reality. With quantum computing, it could be possible to have virtually unlimited space for an artificial reality and the trillions of humans who have/will exist. She's talking about the future. If you want to claim that this is impossible, you have to demonstrate that it's impossible, and you can't do that. I'm not counting on it being true, however. ;) C. human insignificance relative to the universe is irrelevant to this discussion. It's very significant on a personal level. I can comprehend how small a part of the universe I am, but that doesn't diminish my importance to myself, or the importance of people I care about. Saying that we don't matter, just because we're a tiny part of the whole is just being dismissive of consciousness. Many of the criticisms that I see are quite obviously from religious folk. They don't like her assertion that we created god(s) and religion in an attempt to explain the unexplainable and to comfort us in the face of death. Regardless of your beliefs, this is certainly a large part of the appeal of religion. It's disingenuous to pretend that it's not. All in all, I found this to be an interesting proposition and a good thought exercise. I understand that most anything will have criticisms, but if you're really upset by this, then you should take a deep look on why this bothers you so much.

marcellXcatalyst Second Law of Thermodynamic. Snap!

marcellXcatalyst, good use of strikethrough. :)

It’s a wayy too simplified idea of religion honestly

Holy shit, I didn't notice that the first time around. Nice catch!

Yep!

Jack James Babey that's a great episode

I was actually going to mention that in my own comment.

The only happy episode in the series.

Me too!!

She even says that people created heaven to cope with death, then goes on to create a man-made, technology base heaven. She even says it's analogous to the religious one and admits they're made to keep people from going mad.

Bookish Blender I don't think what she's saying is bullshit in any sense of the word. It might not be right but her logic isn't necessarily wrong or flawed. it's only a different perspective on the narrative we call life and death. She could be right after all. Likely? probably not. But if there's only speculation where there's no definite answer, then, there's no reason to cross out potential outcomes

Agreed. I just used it for the convenience and familiarity of the word.

watchinyourVID Second Law of Thermodynamic. Snap!

"Death is not sad. The Sad thing is most people don't live at all. You can live a whole life time never being awake.” Peacefull Warrior.

Casper Richter Never said it was sad :p

Hyun-Jin Limb In and of itself it isn't sad. But yes, that is sad.

Damn.

Jo's Wormstache But the energy of who we are just suddenly vanishes?

The "I" in his question is exactly why concern is warranted

Sonofawil Nope. A dead body dies because the structure of the brain becomes damaged. Blood stops flowing, this causes the death of brain cells which is the PRECISE difference between a live body. And a dead one. Big difference. No abstract stuff here. You can resuscitate a patient with no heartbeat if their brain is still in tact. A person without blood to their brain for many minutes has had too much damage to ever be revived.

Sonofawil his whole story arc in that book is reversing that opinion genious

The Abortion lol, I don't know comics, I know maths, my B

@Lions And Lenses, Abortion was responding to the OP, not you. You had it right.

Kofi Mills 💕💐

TheAngryMarshmallow, **blush**

Kofi Mills 8D

TheAngryMarshmallow, you better stop that. I'm married. 😏

That is true

Saying that shows that the story here went over your head dude. It's not just about the physical action, she said so. At first even I was like "Yeah birth, duh." She's talking about the history of your life up until death. The dreams you had, the impact you made, the lives you changed. For all the potential and beauty of one life, the world should be weeping or breaking at the death of one innocent person, yet nothing happens. Life just goes in callously and that's where the sadness is.

aaayeyeeee cuz

But you can avoid birth with abstinence, but you could never avoid death. Maybe its mire theoretical

Thats not a reaction, it has no correlation to someones death

Don't misuse the word scientifically on the internet , they will crucify you.

Alex Neumann Second Law of Thermodynamic. Snap!

THANK YOU FELLOW HUMAN BEING FOR YOUR VERY ACCURATE RESPONSE WITH WHICH I STRONGLY RESONATE. ADDITIONALLY, I APPLAUD YOUR POSITIVE TONE.

ikr. Everyone crying 'omg she got physics wrong' and 'omg misinformation' and nobody is discussing that it's a philosophical video, not scientific or religious.

There are no bad lines of thought, and of course thinking about death is not original, but some of the ideas presented here are. Calling things unoriginal has lost all meaning in today's society, as it's all been thought of and discussed before. There are simply new perspectives on things. Throwing that out, it's really NOT a good argument, and the science IS all wrong. Of course death doesn't violate the laws of nature. One might assume the author, being of reasonable intelligence, knew that before making such an outrageous statement. Why then would you think that an appeal to incorrect science was an attempt to lend validity to this argument, or that the argument even reflects the author's opinions? Nowhere in this video do they even ATTEMPT to find meaning in 'life and death and randomness and order' nor is anything she said based on her own near-death experience, but instead on the disturbing state of the world and all of the OTHER lives lost while she was forced to sit there healing. The section based on incorrect science leads into a discussion of the possibly limitless potential of humanity to find solutions to problems. Yes, we do have higher brain function and may choose solutions outside of our 'nature.' Yes, we do fear death above all. Yes, society is a social construct created to fulfill our needs. From this point on in the video, it's philosophical SPECULATION about the enduring hope for humankind. We want to conquer death, so maybe someday we will. And if we do, perhaps someday we'll find a way to reach back and save those that died before the tech was created. All of this leads to the true point of the video: "To die is to find out if humanity ever conquers death." If you die and nothing happens, we don't. If you die and wake up in the future, whether it be through cloning, brain transplant, cyborgism, simulation, what have you... then we have. Of course all of this is just a subjective view of the video from my perspective, and there are as many valid discussions about it as there are people that watch it, if they're willing to think past 'it was just stupid' and find their own meaning. I wish you luck. I'd be happy to discuss your finding with you when you're ready.

@ paulsan2112 Thank you for saying what I thought about this, but worded better then I could say it.

" it's a philosophical video, not scientific or religious." That title, though.

The video is about the complicated and desperate emotions of the main character, everyone already figured out that it's not philosophically or scientifically accurate. The part that we're getting that you're not is the emotional and emphatic aspect, to have known that animal desperation in the face of oblivion, and that's something I can't help you with.

Maxim Gwiazda Second Law of Thermodynamic. Snap!

so reading and understanding the dictionary definition of words in a sentence has turned into taking things too literally, ok

+Maxim Gwiazda Maybe some people just thought it was trite. I did.

Yeah, I know right? I for one fully expect completely accurate titles that directly relate to the content in Cracked's videos. ........Sarcasm? Yeah... yeah, I think I just managed sarcasm there. Pretty sure I did...

don't care about the title. I watched these animated episodes and just didn't think they were funny. if I laugh i like it, if I don't well I just wasted my time. I'm gonna stop watching these.

Fabalocious Dee 🙌

Laura J. Meese THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

Someone had to. Thanks much!

People don't like it because spits in the face of both science and religion. It's a fake premise to say "anything that you believe is pointless". I understand how you would like it, but if you look deeper, it's just the same drivel that causes street preachers to condemn people or scientists to mock those of faith... only presented without anyone to contradict them.

I think if you look deeper, you will see that it is a story of how ONE person deals--she even states that she has to, not that anyone else has to. It is open-minded towards any other beliefs. It never states that anything you believe is pointless--gross misunderstanding on your part, dude.

You didn't watch the video well then. Let's take two statements: "death violates the laws of the universe" - First, this is a ridiculous claim. Second, why say this unless you are trying emphasize how much science fails. It is the platform which they jump off at. They could have also said, "I have an idea... you just have to convince yourself that rational thinking is meaningless" and nothing would have been lost. "I see how this whole religion thing got started" - This is the second platform they use to change the dialogue. And again, it is stating "for those that believe, your dumb. You only believe these things because you can't rectify your emotions with reality and current knowledge." Both of these statements miss the point of both ways of thinking. And these two ways of thinking make up 99.999% of all people. If that wasn't bad enough, the end is even less genuine because it uses both topics that they both insulted to make a solution that is worse than either of the previous ideas. Again. If you like it, good for you. Just don't expect others to feel the same.