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How Good are Longboats? (AoE2) 

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For Vikings, the question is often floated: Longboat or War Galley? Do you stay tide to the galley line you may have mast in Feudal, or rock the boat by going with your unique unit? As you’d probably expect, it’s not as simple as one oar the other. We’ll look into water the factors to consider, so you can be shore to better navigate the decision in your next game.
CASTLE AGE
0:25 War Galley vs Longboat stats and cost
2:00 A note on micro and patrol
2:35 Comparison vs War Galley
3:55 vs Fire Ships
4:30 vs Demolition Ships
5:15 vs Rams
IMPERIAL AGE
6:05 Galleon vs Elite Longboat stats and cost
8:20 vs Fast Fire Ships
8:45 vs Heavy Demolition Ship & Docks
9:19 Miscellaneous cases: Cannon Galleons, Turtle Ships, Caravels
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@kumisz2
@kumisz2 3 года назад
SotL didn't factor in the most important advantage of Longboats: they have proper sinking animations!
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 3 года назад
Caravel has the most satisfying sinking animation!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
How about the Fishing Ship's?
@francocavecchia8246
@francocavecchia8246 3 года назад
Im actually surprised that none of the sinking animations for galleys has been updated to the pre rendered "real time" destruction.
@JackOpulski
@JackOpulski 3 года назад
They kinda look like they deflate, but that beats most warships that just disintegrate
@gdjeremyful
@gdjeremyful 3 года назад
Yes ,agreed ! The other ship sinking animation looks like they Michael Bayed...
@leoSaunders
@leoSaunders 3 года назад
2:24 jesus christ. aoe2 looks really clean IS THIS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES EVER OR IS THIS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES EVER
@fknutz4400
@fknutz4400 3 года назад
30 seconds in and i'm drowning in water puns
@shaunak7689
@shaunak7689 3 года назад
There are far too many water based puns in this video. SOTL really outdid his script writing this time around.
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
There's never enough water based puns That's what you meant
@kotapainting
@kotapainting 3 года назад
He didn't go overboard, no
@MikaelKKarlsson
@MikaelKKarlsson 3 года назад
We're drowning in puns.
@forsakenquery
@forsakenquery 3 года назад
I counted 18
@mkaali
@mkaali 3 года назад
And then we all laughed
@ProperlyBasic11
@ProperlyBasic11 3 года назад
"Better navigate the decision," "let's drift to Imperial age," "watered down." Spirit of the Law isn't just a math expert.
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 года назад
*Spirit of the Pun*
@johnmorrell3187
@johnmorrell3187 3 года назад
Float the question, stay `tide` to your unique unit, or use the galleons you've `mast`. They come in hot and fast
@calikillednoxgaming9606
@calikillednoxgaming9606 3 года назад
Don’t rock the boat
@Kid_Ikaris
@Kid_Ikaris 3 года назад
Haha nice, didn't catch those 🪝
@incarceros
@incarceros 3 года назад
Per the subtitles, the end is "I'll sea you next time."
@Eustathe
@Eustathe 3 года назад
His arguments definitely hold water.
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 3 года назад
I dunno, I got a sinking feeling.
@javieryllanes5897
@javieryllanes5897 3 года назад
Water you thinking
@Kakariki73
@Kakariki73 3 года назад
Hmm? Ohw sorry I was sunken in my own waves of thoughts
@reddmann5562
@reddmann5562 3 года назад
Ah I sea what you did there.
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 года назад
That’s unfortunate, usually you want boats to be the other way around
@Progeusz
@Progeusz 3 года назад
Longboats are more pop efficient, that's why their elite upgrade is more expensive.
@Kawabongahlive
@Kawabongahlive 3 года назад
Good point. Much like corean War Wagons, even if they're expensive, once you reach a high enough numbers the pop amount to counter them doesn't exist and they stomp.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 3 года назад
I think its mainly their stacking and speed theyre amazing raiders ive tried fighting them myself
@PablitoAndCo
@PablitoAndCo 3 года назад
SOTL: "Cannon galleons are primarily for shore bombardment and definitely not naval combat." Spanish cannon galleons: "That's cute."
@MrlspPrt
@MrlspPrt 3 года назад
"Eso es muy mono".
@KochiyaOcean
@KochiyaOcean 3 года назад
Spanish cannon galleons are still not good enough for naval combat, due to the low fire rate. It can join naval battle aside of shore bombardment tasks, but go full galleons are much more cost effective if you're going to gain sea control
@ScudForEver
@ScudForEver 3 года назад
Spanish Galleons are probably the most unbalanced unit in the game. They're just too good compared to regular slow mo cannon galleons that they feel like a third unique unit for that civilization.
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 3 года назад
@@KochiyaOcean I really do not think this applies to post imperial naval fights. If you mass enough of them, they even eat fire ships, which is outrageous btw.
@KochiyaOcean
@KochiyaOcean 3 года назад
@@oom-3262 Galleons can just do same thing with much lower cost. Cannon galleons are just so hard to mass except you're in a huge advantage
@insanityinacan
@insanityinacan 3 года назад
SotL really going ham with the nautical puns in this one. I *_sea_* what you did there
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 3 года назад
*water* the odds he wouldn't ;7
@TheHUEZOX
@TheHUEZOX 3 года назад
He dive deep into the puns
@MrlspPrt
@MrlspPrt 3 года назад
Weren't Punics a naval power?
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 года назад
@@MrlspPrt they were before becoming too *salty*
@ThePeacemaker848
@ThePeacemaker848 3 года назад
I always thought the Longboat should have been available in Feudal age and have a transport capacity of like 3 or 4. So that vikings could better at shore raiding in the early game.
@공략
@공략 3 года назад
Would be a nice detail but viking is already strong in water map no reason to buff their navy
@Kakariki73
@Kakariki73 3 года назад
I think the transporting of units hold water in my opinion but another version could be adding firepower per added units like towers or perhaps speed like with rams
@Southeast_Asian_Devil
@Southeast_Asian_Devil 2 года назад
@@공략 Didn't you hear wht SOTL said? He said the longboats are trash!
@BlackDiamond2718
@BlackDiamond2718 2 года назад
Longboats are only good if you mass them like archers.
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy Год назад
That was the idea but because some reasons they changed it. In alpha version they could garrison units (but probably not from feudal age)
@Tei
@Tei 3 года назад
*Vikings overview remastered incoming*
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 3 года назад
+1
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 года назад
He didn't overview Slavs!
@taudvore259
@taudvore259 3 года назад
@@sauravtripathi4128 He did years ago, but he hasn’t done Sicilians yet.
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 года назад
@@taudvore259 so that can be said about Vikings too!
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 3 года назад
@@taudvore259 Sicilians are already done. Please check it.
@robertwalsh6018
@robertwalsh6018 3 года назад
Spirit you forgot the most important part of the Longboat, it looks cooler
@xotl2780
@xotl2780 3 года назад
Goes without sailing.
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 3 года назад
I offen think Longboat should have transport capacity, like 5 slots maybe
@nicholasnixon1311
@nicholasnixon1311 3 года назад
It absolutely should be able to transport units. Even if it's just villagers and berserks. Up to 10, and then elite is 20. Would be great for raiding
@ClaireIsLiterallyMeFrFr
@ClaireIsLiterallyMeFrFr 3 года назад
This is giving me some strong aoe3 galleon vibes
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 3 года назад
@@nicholasnixon1311 don't know about that, think its better to keep the number of passengers low and versatile, then large and specific.
@nicholasnixon1311
@nicholasnixon1311 3 года назад
@@SirAroace yeah on second thought. I think 5 for regular an d 10 for elite would be good. Emphasizes early raiding. And maybe make it only infantry? Idk. Just a thought
@3eightiesopinion524
@3eightiesopinion524 3 года назад
I honestly thought they did for a while when i first started playing!
@JanJanNik
@JanJanNik 3 года назад
so each longboat has 3 storm trooper artillerists by default?
@rovsea-3761
@rovsea-3761 3 года назад
One of the reasons you'd see longboats at a high level of play is because they train faster. Vikings can get taken off of water in feudal age by the opponent rushing in with fire galleys, so the thought of going up to castle then getting back onto water with longboats, who are better vs fire ships anyways, and create faster and thus require fewer docks to mass with, is quite appealing.
@darkdill
@darkdill Год назад
This. If you quickly mass a fleet of Longboats, you can stomp the enemy's navy in a decisive battle and kick them off the water. Even if they try to build Docks under a Castle, some micro will let you destroy the Docks and kill any Villagers who try to build. Then you just get to Cannon Galleons and bombard the shore. Most water games are pretty much decided in Castle Age, so the enemy can't really make a comeback if their navy is destroyed and their Docks are blown up. Only Portuguese can really make any sort of comeback thanks to their Feitorias.
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 года назад
Deep dive on Longboat? Revisiting when to get wheelbarrow? Oh boy I smell a remastered Viking civ overview coming!
@matthiasvandekerkhove3594
@matthiasvandekerkhove3594 3 года назад
Let's hope so!
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 3 года назад
2:16 Lmao *"But just be prepared to **_sink_** quite a bit more gold and attention on to them"* I _sea_ what you did there. This is quite an _oar-deal_ indeed. I was _a-boat_ to say Galleon always wins, but not anymore xD
@felixrr7381
@felixrr7381 3 года назад
the madman did it again, watered down at 7:12
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 года назад
"They certainly didn't *flounder* in this battle" "I wouldn't go *overboard* to say longboats are better" SotL really anchored down with water puns in this video.
@UrsaMinor-69
@UrsaMinor-69 3 года назад
even at the beginning, "the question is often floated." there really are a ton of sea puns in this video
@chingamfong
@chingamfong 3 года назад
Another advantage for Longboat is they have real collapsing animation instead of war galley's sudden change to debris when it dies. Yes you can only see that when they dies but going out with styles is still some style points.
@SchlomoGoldbergstein
@SchlomoGoldbergstein 3 года назад
IMAGINE if you could put those longboats into towers of castles.
@ayhanfedai5013
@ayhanfedai5013 3 года назад
what about docks ? coastal castle
@MrlspPrt
@MrlspPrt 3 года назад
Among the Hidden: my time has come...
@beachmaster7011
@beachmaster7011 3 года назад
Would stop the counter from a couple of virgin fire ships as my chad longboats shoot from docks or castles
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 года назад
Your name is a thing of monstrous beauty
@DutchAver
@DutchAver 3 года назад
MikeEmpires needs to get on this.
@tomaszsmol3920
@tomaszsmol3920 3 года назад
I just love how massed longboats shred buildings
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin 3 года назад
"But the question is often floated" okay, so I can see that this is going to be a long video
@ogluca
@ogluca 3 года назад
All these ship and water puns are making me seasick
@boarfaceswinejaw4516
@boarfaceswinejaw4516 3 года назад
longships should honestly be unlocked in feudal rather than castle.
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 года назад
But with nerfed stats
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 3 года назад
It would be interesting to make them available in dark age, to fit with the Vikings' strong naval prowess during that period of history. It would require a major rebalancing of the civ, though
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 года назад
@@Septimus_ii dark age? Your idea is interesting. How would you rework the civ?
@Igor369
@Igor369 3 года назад
Then they also could not have castle as requirment.
@qwerty222999
@qwerty222999 3 года назад
@@SIGNOR-G Maybe just rework the stats of the Longboat, making its stats increase with age, to the point of its current power.
@revolutioncipher4987
@revolutioncipher4987 3 года назад
I really hope he goes in depth in AOE4.
@Wadusher
@Wadusher 3 года назад
@Mik H I can already tell from trailers and the like that there's loads of depth to go into 11.
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays 3 года назад
Which one is better for securing a neutral island for archery ranges?
@dango470
@dango470 3 года назад
I see you are a man of T90 taste
@16vSciroccoboi
@16vSciroccoboi 3 года назад
Ouch.
@laservsvecchiette
@laservsvecchiette 3 года назад
Another plus point for the longboat: a more beautiful death animation
@5astelija75
@5astelija75 3 года назад
Interesting facts but then again, they do look cool so I keep using them
@cataphracts123
@cataphracts123 3 года назад
Interestingly historical as it looks like a better raider unit, sail up along a coast and up a river and attack buildings and units on land rather than prolonged sea engagements.
@oivinf
@oivinf 3 года назад
Viking longboats vs caravels are realistically a bit of a laughable match-up. Their first historical appearances are roughly 1000 years apart. Granted, IRL that caravel would use guns and not arrows too, as well as a billion other historical inaccuracies. Not to mention the viking longboat was never intended to raid other ships, but designed to raid towns
@nicholase2868
@nicholase2868 3 года назад
Yeah, I don't even know how they handled other ships. Did they avoid them? Then they go straight in and board them?
@oivinf
@oivinf 3 года назад
@@nicholase2868 Considering no one at the time/place had equally good ships as the vikings, I assume there was no piracy. And if there was, the pirates would be in the same situation, so I suppose a boarding might have taken place in such a case.
@3eightiesopinion524
@3eightiesopinion524 3 года назад
@@oivinf id like tl see chinese ships fight viking ones from the same time period
@Luisin88
@Luisin88 3 года назад
Viking longboats give the impression of a land raiding unit, should had tested this against more land based units, my guess is they work more similar to arrow towers.
@ImTreyhan
@ImTreyhan 3 года назад
I agree, but it was addressed briefly the previous longboat video. Your impression is correct based on that video. Longboats should be preferred over galleys for attacking land units.
@Davtwan
@Davtwan 3 года назад
I guess this is accurate to how the Vikings lost the water game as other civilizations improved their ship game in history. Still, it would be nice if Longboats had another edge like being able to carry infantry (but not villagers).
@tupacshakur5868
@tupacshakur5868 Год назад
did they lost the water game? From what i know, they just left it and focused heavily on trading. Some places they used to raid surrendered their government and the vikings managed them from there on. So they just settled,no? At least thats what the 2 hours documentation i watched last weekend told me :s
@AEthelingg
@AEthelingg 3 года назад
Give longboats transport capability! That would make them viable and more historically accurate
@xotl2780
@xotl2780 3 года назад
When I played Erik the Red for the first time I built like fifteen longboats thinking they had transport ship capability. I didn't even check. I was so mad.
@heckinmemes6430
@heckinmemes6430 3 года назад
I never noticed that there are little splashes in the water for missed arrows/shots.
@Leon.Stanic
@Leon.Stanic 3 года назад
Yeah, nice attention to detail.
@kyallokytty
@kyallokytty 3 года назад
theyve been there since at least the conqueror's expansion iirc
@gunar.kroeger
@gunar.kroeger 3 года назад
can you make a video about what to expect from the Mega Random map generation?
@pandaprewmaster325
@pandaprewmaster325 3 года назад
The real advantage of the longboat is its psychological effect on the enemy
@Dartaen
@Dartaen 3 года назад
Really waving the water puns in our faces this time.
@benjaminpetry8487
@benjaminpetry8487 3 года назад
10 seconds in and "rock the boat" "float a question" and "navigate" lmao
@volk551
@volk551 3 года назад
Sounds like the Vikings navy discount needs a buff over shipwright
@volk551
@volk551 3 года назад
@@AndrewTheFrank still doesn't change the fact that shipwright is better than Viking Naval bonus in Imperial age because ships become 20% cheaper and build 35% faster with shipwright and the Vikings only get a Discount not the faster building ships
@Boethion
@Boethion 3 года назад
I think the thing about the vikings boni is the timing advantage, same with their free wheelbarrow and handcart. You arent better than other civilizations in the longrun, but you get your discounts/economy boni faster.
@Shero1337
@Shero1337 3 года назад
@@volk551 but Vikings have the ability in Feudal AND they don't have to pay for it so they have a cheaper early/mid game, that mixed with their team bonus "Docks are 15% cheaper", and with very nice long boats to finish off the late game. Vikings aren't hurting at all, they are just a little different
@volk551
@volk551 3 года назад
@@Shero1337 Yes but it doesn't matter if they get it earlier the generic unit is still cheaper The Galley ship line cost way less gold then the longship you ever saw in the video that the normal Galleon beats the elite longship without mirco
@zekleinhammer
@zekleinhammer 3 года назад
Shipwright is very expensive
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 года назад
OK but we all know Longboats are the best because they look fucking gnarly.
@robdenini6972
@robdenini6972 3 года назад
Damn the number of puns this man has made blows me out of the water.
@gisarme113
@gisarme113 3 года назад
I think longboats should have weakened transportation ability (like only five units) to increase its harassment capability.
@salvadorseekatzrisquez2947
@salvadorseekatzrisquez2947 3 года назад
On Minute 9:00 did you try spread formation for long boat. That helps avoid demolition boat damage
@Norovo
@Norovo 3 года назад
Other important longboat advantages - They look cool
@twohandedswordsman852
@twohandedswordsman852 3 года назад
Longboats are basically 'anti sieges and anti buildings' ship.
@LinkMarioSamus
@LinkMarioSamus 3 года назад
So Longboats are specialized raiding units? Checks out.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 года назад
Imagine if AoE2 actually tried to make real world sense and Viking Longboats where the only warship that could sail through shallows and swamps?
@Yamaazaka
@Yamaazaka 3 года назад
Time to play Vinlandsaga for the 1000th time
@bertthebard
@bertthebard 3 года назад
That's a very well written script, all the water/ship related puns are simply great. Well done!
@BrianSWG
@BrianSWG 3 года назад
This is why age is so great and sometimes frustrating at the same time. Always need to factor in the random generation 🤣
@leonardorivelorivelo9253
@leonardorivelorivelo9253 3 года назад
There should be more unique ship units, imagine the ideas If every civ had 2-3 unique units
@Kawabongahlive
@Kawabongahlive 3 года назад
That would be a nightmare to balance. Which other unique unit would you give the goths without making them absolutely overpowered?
@darkdill
@darkdill 3 года назад
The key to Longboats is their creation time. With a few Docks producing them, they allow the Vikings to perform a knockout blow to the enemy's navy, kicking the other player off the water and preventing them from making a comeback. This can be far more cost-effective than a slow naval grind, even if the Longboat is more expensive. The Longboat's speed also plays a huge role in this. With it, you have control over when to take fights. You can either pursue the enemy when they try to retreat and they can't outrun you, or you can run away if the fight looks dicey and they won't be able to catch you without Demo Ships, which you can snipe with micro.
@dominicmartin8886
@dominicmartin8886 3 года назад
@Spirit of the Law unrelated, but could you do a video overviewing pros and cons of spear line vs camel line both in dealing with cavalry and providing a large portion of your army? I've always been confused as to precisely how their attack bonuses, attack rate, HP, etc factor into their effectiveness
@boristolokonnikov5172
@boristolokonnikov5172 3 года назад
If they ever make longboats carry 5 Vikings or 5 units (any units), but remove multiple projectiles from an empty ship, for a bit higher cost it would make for a unique unique unit
@timhuester7721
@timhuester7721 3 года назад
A way to make them more unique would be to give them the ability to slowly move on land. Historically the vikings carried or pushed their boats on logs to move their boats from one river to the next or to bypass fast currents or waterfalls. Maybe give them a different landform that can be engaged similarily to trebuchets, which is unable to attack. On some maps that could make for some very unique stratgies!
@icarian553
@icarian553 3 года назад
One thing you should've included when you talked about Shipwright. It's very expensive tech and you rarely see it in 1v1 games outside of Italians. Often it's not worth the cost.
@mikefule330
@mikefule330 3 года назад
A "longboat" is a ship's boat used between around 1500 to the late 1700s: a rowing boat used for things like sending crew members ashore when the ship was anchored. The Vikings used "longships".
@Mr_King96
@Mr_King96 3 года назад
4th time asking: Hey SotL, what's the song from your outro called? It sounds really chipper
@danielolsen2341
@danielolsen2341 3 года назад
Shazam says its: Dylan Joseph, Lets get this party started,
@Mr_King96
@Mr_King96 3 года назад
@@danielolsen2341 And Shazam was right, i should finally install that app ^^ Thank you, kind stranger!
@RicardoAlmeidatm
@RicardoAlmeidatm 3 года назад
I think longboats are way too similar to galleys> They should have really gone for the unique in unique unit and turned it into a raiding unit that deals bonus damage to ports, maybe even getting gold from destroying buildings. Or go really far off and make them and the berserker the same unit, like a transport ship that becomes a troop of infantry.
@carlpult5235
@carlpult5235 3 года назад
Finally I know why I won that Islands game with teuton H-Demos all those years ago ...
@MegaDonker
@MegaDonker 3 года назад
Hey Spirit Of The Law, I suggest you to watch youtube channel call Parsa. He was the Aoe2 animator. Check it out man
@herman1francis
@herman1francis 3 года назад
I haven't played aoe2 for about 18 years. And yet i watch every single video on this channel
@ShermTank7272
@ShermTank7272 3 года назад
Hey guys, Spirit of the Longboat here
@terras6418
@terras6418 3 года назад
The Longboat really just feels like the water version of cavalry archers.
@eliteteutonicknight1
@eliteteutonicknight1 3 года назад
Long boats should be light combat transports. Change my mind.
@Fizzicles
@Fizzicles 3 года назад
I love this channel. I don't even play AoE2 but I watch every single one of these videos for some reason. Thank you SotL
@MegaNever2010
@MegaNever2010 3 года назад
Well yeah, but Longboats have a +50 to Style, so they're clearly superior.
@Randgalf
@Randgalf 3 года назад
Why style is not among the unit stats is beyond me.
@smugshrug
@smugshrug 3 года назад
Arabia players: What's a longboat?
@Rider-lo9vt
@Rider-lo9vt 3 года назад
Even Warcraft 3 has better reality and historically correct than AOE2 AND I MEAN IT!
@xotl2780
@xotl2780 3 года назад
So what?
@nilsp9426
@nilsp9426 3 года назад
So the Viking naval superiority is mostly free wheelbarrow and discount on ships, I guess?
@shigerufan1
@shigerufan1 3 года назад
And cheaper docks too for fish farms
@forsakenquery
@forsakenquery 3 года назад
18 water puns (with sink twice)
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 3 года назад
Is there a video on caravels?
@MrlspPrt
@MrlspPrt 3 года назад
0:25 and you made almost as many puns as Schwarzenegger in Batman & Robin, but good ones...
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 3 года назад
I think it's safe to use Viking longboats against generic war galleys.
@eskidengunesyohtumumunanay7398
@eskidengunesyohtumumunanay7398 3 года назад
Please upload more videos
@SleepyFen
@SleepyFen 3 года назад
I really wish the Longboat would get buffed a bit. They're a good deal more expensive, yet provide no truly meaningful advantage over the Galley line. Maybe an extra arrow or two for the Elite Upgrade would actually make it worth it.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 3 года назад
Heck, I would just take them getting transport capability, maybe 10 slots, so you could really go a viking with the viking longboats. Be handy for coastal raids and spoiling attacks. Being a slightly different galley takes a lot of the charm out of being a unique unit when the whole point of the Vikings were they used their ships to get around places.
@jaredrowendolas8757
@jaredrowendolas8757 3 года назад
Even three or four transport slots would be great. Especially if archers could give extra arrows.
@WikiHL
@WikiHL 3 года назад
They're the same design for AoM nordic ships and that's all I need
@MorleyGames1
@MorleyGames1 3 года назад
Interesting. I always thought longboats were much better. Must be my god like micro *kappa*
@vitorpombo8439
@vitorpombo8439 3 года назад
My life is basically studying, eating, sleeping and waiting for SOTL'S videos to be uploaded.
@eskidengunesyohtumumunanay7398
@eskidengunesyohtumumunanay7398 3 года назад
Chu Ko Nu on Water
@RabenKaiser
@RabenKaiser 3 года назад
WHAT ABOUT THOSES UPGRADES AT THE ARCHERY RANGE? i remember they applied to Longboat, and were MAJOR upgrades!!!!?? No?
@jamesinciardi5099
@jamesinciardi5099 3 года назад
I still think you should be able to garrison units into longships for a marine landing. Sort of like an armed transport ship. That's what the Vikings were famous for! (That, and missing that 27-yard field goal against the Seahawks in 2016. Maybe they should not be able to research ballistics. In fact, if you want to make them really historically accurate, let's just say they can't win. Ever.)
@Jondiceful
@Jondiceful 3 года назад
If you don't have a lot of time to sink into this video and try to avoid going overboard with the details, the TLDR is "It's complicated, and depends on what you're up against." Against fireships- the longboat wins with some micro. Against galleys, the longboat needs micro to be effective. Against demolition ships, your longboats are headed straight for Davy Jones's Locker. Better yet, if you aren't good micro and multitasking, best to avoid the longboat so you don't washout. Watch the full clip to see how SOTL anchors these conclusions in solid analysis.
@agustinfranco0
@agustinfranco0 Год назад
i always hated that vikings have a, lets be honest, pretty shitty UU, and they are supposed to be awesome at navy but their shit is sooooo meh. sarracens are better, for some reason. if you ask me vikings should get a +15% more ship HP, o +2 armor, or +2 attack or SOMETHING
@godsparticle7657
@godsparticle7657 3 года назад
Hey spirit of the Law In your previous video I saw an intro....In that i saw a pic which shows "Normal game plan" and "GOTH game plan". What does that mean ? I didint get that....!!!
@JulesLeStrat
@JulesLeStrat 3 года назад
A "Longboat" ??? In English they're not called DRAKKARS ?? Oh boy I was wondering why I didn't understand the title but now it's clear x)
@DarDarBinks1986
@DarDarBinks1986 Год назад
The IRL Norse used longboats as transport vessels so why not give them a little carrying capacity? I'd say 5 passengers could work for supplementing your transport ships. When playing Vikings on a water map, I like to compliment my longboats with galleons and cannon galleons (once I'm in Imp and research chemistry). Then I like to send my navy all over the map. I use the cannons to bombard the shores of my enemies' islands while the longboats and galleons take care of enemy ships. Then I send berserkers, arbalesters, scorps, mangonels, and monks ashore to go inland and finish the job. I'll throw in some villagers to build a forward castle or two and make more troops as well.
@Southeast_Asian_Devil
@Southeast_Asian_Devil 2 года назад
Say what you want, SOTL, but I've seen longboats in competitive games. Longboats eat anything on the map. The only counter Viper could offer were water buffaloes.
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 3 года назад
I think you should run longboats for naval combat overall because they're effectively a domination unit. They're weak for their cost but can be produced rapidly to compensate, they can destroy enemy docks quicker and hell even raid fishing economy better. The idea is to have a lot of them before your enemy can really mass up any sort of naval army, otherwise they'll just beat you with fire ships. And yes, the Galley line is far cheaper and that makes them useful chaff + bodies on the board early on, but cost efficiency is not the road to victory in this case. Fire Ships WILL be used against you before you get big numbers and your enemy knows you can't really counter a large number of fire ships without spamming one-shot demo ships or kiting for a freaking day.
@MineAndRobin
@MineAndRobin 3 года назад
This is ridiculous. I haven't played AoE2 in years, and personally don't realy enjoy it much, yet I still find myself on this channel with every upload, and watch every video. I just love this kind of analysis type stuff I guess?
@blitzinc2397
@blitzinc2397 3 года назад
Me watching SOTL videos with the complicated maths and that, and trying to understand it Also me knowing damn well that I only play vs AI on the easy difficulties
@NOMIKAD1000
@NOMIKAD1000 3 года назад
For being named longboat it seems shorter than the others...
@amazed2341
@amazed2341 3 года назад
It might’ve been worth putting a large amount of longboats against the same amount of galleons produced within the same time period, like say you have 15 longboats, how many galleons would you be fighting if you’ve both been producing for the same amount of time
@bluesight_
@bluesight_ 2 года назад
The fact Vikings don't get Fire Ships whatsoever, and that longboats really aren't *that* great, I really think vikings are kinda crap on the water, which is a shame. Longboats really ought to double as a transport ship
@MrJacobhobbs
@MrJacobhobbs 3 года назад
Any chance of some videos explaining how to make your own simple to do mods? Changing backgrounds, diy units or buildings, data mods etc.
@ExandShadow
@ExandShadow 3 года назад
I love the amount of nautical puns in this video. Helps keep the points anchored.
@WigglyWings
@WigglyWings 2 года назад
Anyone wondering what song is outro music, it's "Let's Get This Party Started by Dylan Joseph "
@brassinis8571
@brassinis8571 3 года назад
Spirit, why did you stop including your theme music in every video? It's the cherry on top of your great vids. Please bring it back!
@mikewright7964
@mikewright7964 3 года назад
I think it would be better if Viking's Longboat was a unique transport and had some unique effect of giving transported units a timed combat bonus when they exit the longboat.
@gloinschmelzer7601
@gloinschmelzer7601 2 года назад
At 2:32 you use "patrol" .... i dont get how you perform that "hit and run" in this situation... do you first make them "patrol" and then you press "stopp", let them shoot once, and let them "patrol" again right? And with cavalry archers do you do it the same way?
@hbarudi
@hbarudi 3 года назад
Why no York campaign scenario in this video? That is the perfect scenario to try things with longboats and the map has a huge amount of resources. In that map I was able to defeat whole castles with longboats... They are very good in masses against buildings.
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