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How GOOD was Dragonite ACTUALLY? - History of Dragonite in Competitive Pokemon (Gen 1-6) 

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DRAGONITE! The Original Dragon type and Pseudo Legendary! How good was Dragonite actually in competitive play for both singles and doubles? Join False Swipe Gaming in this video to find out!
A REMAKE OF THIS VIDEO IS OUT NOW WITH MUCH MORE DETAIL AND LESS ERRORS:
• How GREAT was Dragonit...
On Gen 4 VGC Ban:
Apparently Dragonite was banned because there was not a flat level system implemented in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. As such, since the level cap for VGC was 50 and Dragonite evolves at 55, it could not enter VGC. This would be fixed in Platinum but Dragonite was still outclassed by Latios, Garchomp, and other faster Dragon types. As for Gen 5 and 6, its lack of speed, even with multiscale, made it unviable when there were other options such as Garchomp, Hydreigon, and Salamence.
DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
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Pokemon B/W Remix: Celestial Tower / Dragonspiral Tower
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Resources and Historical References:
History of Rule Variants: bulbapedia.bulb...
Smogon University:
www.smogon.com/
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Aaron Cybertron Zheng:
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Pokemon Battle Historia:
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Nintendo Cup 1997 Tier List:
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Nintendo Cup 1999 Tier List:
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Nintendo Cup 2000 Team Construction:
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Nintendo Cup 2000 Tier List:
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Gen 1 Nintendo Cup Dragonite Analysis:
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Gen 2 Nintendo Cup Dragonite Analysis:
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Dragonite Bulbapedia:
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Smogen Dex Dragonite:
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Nugget Bridge Blog: History of Competitive Pokemon 1996-7:
nuggetbridge.co...
Nugget Bridge Blog: History of Competitive Pokemon 1998:
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^ Nuggetbridge links got taken down for some reason :( But they were essentially summaries in english of this japanese website:
pokemon.s20.xre... which covers official competitive 1st and 2nd Gen in Japan during 1996-2000
Pokemon Japanese Battle Wiki:
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Комментарии : 1,5 тыс.   
@FalseSwipeGaming
@FalseSwipeGaming 4 года назад
A remake of this video is out now with much better information, higher production value, and less errors! Please watch this instead! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LUc78og7Q8g.html
@zealiouszone8861
@zealiouszone8861 4 года назад
I'm seeing the old video to see what was changed in the new video. Thanks.
@jamesw2831
@jamesw2831 4 года назад
That new video is amazing.
@harlemmaddux9564
@harlemmaddux9564 3 года назад
pro trick: you can watch series on flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies recently.
@morgancolton7399
@morgancolton7399 3 года назад
@Harlem Maddux yup, been using flixzone} for since december myself :D
@thegoldmario4879
@thegoldmario4879 3 года назад
No I want to see cringe >:0
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 6 лет назад
You may be a competitive player if your Pokemon is hit by toxic and your reaction is "yes, now I can't get burned."
@MayaMaya-si3nw
@MayaMaya-si3nw 5 лет назад
*gets paralysed from the neck down* yes! Now I can't catch fire! This is a joke. I'm not shitting on disabled people.
@nicholassapphire2022
@nicholassapphire2022 5 лет назад
This is how I feel about paralysis lol
@cascadianvoidmapping8642
@cascadianvoidmapping8642 5 лет назад
Nick Tin don’t say s***
@soulsbonk
@soulsbonk 5 лет назад
Or paralyzing my lead so it cant get hypnosis spammed
@thedoctorincognito
@thedoctorincognito 5 лет назад
@@MayaMaya-si3nw lol dont worry we wont bash you we aint the media
@azmiraclegirl441
@azmiraclegirl441 5 лет назад
In a fan theory I read, the underleveled Dragonite Lance has are ones Team Rocket forced to evolve like the Red Gyarados. He rescued them and now they're bros. Excellence.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 4 года назад
I think that theory has a little problem: Dratini and Dragonair are only findable in protected areas like the Dragon's Den and Safari Zone.
@BackpackBanjo
@BackpackBanjo 4 года назад
Other problem with this theory is that Lance is shown using a Dragonite DURING the Lake of Rage saga, yet all three of his Dragonites are under-leveled.
@dbgrfdg
@dbgrfdg 4 года назад
Lance is evil himself
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 4 года назад
@@BackpackBanjo Both of you have very valid points so allow me to play devil's advocate Lance found his dratinis in the Kanto Safari Zone
@sarvukruv2137
@sarvukruv2137 4 года назад
Lance was my least favorite elite four member. Now he's both my favorite and least favorite. I mean, he's really annoying to beat but he saved a pokemon from team rocket and befriended it
@lvl5Vaporeon
@lvl5Vaporeon 7 лет назад
I can still hear the screams. They wake me in the night. Terrible, gut wrenching, painful screams; screams that can only come from the deepest and darkest recesses of the mind. These were not screams of pain. These were screams of years of sorrow and despair. These were screams that made your skin crawl... *Dragonite uses agility* *Dragonite uses wrap* *The attack continues* *The attack continues* *The attack continues* *Your pokemon broke free* *Dragonite uses wrap* *The attack continues*
@piercewilliams6284
@piercewilliams6284 7 лет назад
lvl5Vaporeon when did it end? During your 1st or 2nd nervous breakdown?
@FourthSeatStudios
@FourthSeatStudios 7 лет назад
I always went for Rapidash and Fire Spin, myself, since there's no type immune to fire and Rapidash had its high base speed over the likes of Cloyster's Clamp. Not that I claim to have ever played competitively...
@nihildwo4874
@nihildwo4874 7 лет назад
regular playthrough: bellsprout used sleep powder. bellsprout used wrap. bellsprout used poison powder.
@piercewilliams6284
@piercewilliams6284 7 лет назад
Nihil Dwo don't forget about Amoongusse's spore.
@lvl5Vaporeon
@lvl5Vaporeon 7 лет назад
The end is never the end is never the end is never the end...
@onlybrad8434
@onlybrad8434 6 лет назад
That moment when you first meet a dragonite in the game. You try every single attack possible, all of them not effective. Then you tell yourself "there is no way ice could damage a dragon... dragons breath fire..." and then you learn the truth
@chuyrenteria6252
@chuyrenteria6252 5 лет назад
And also fairy.
@rhyno39
@rhyno39 5 лет назад
@@chuyrenteria6252 I think he was talking about Gens 1 and 2
@c_f0rce
@c_f0rce 5 лет назад
@@chuyrenteria6252 he's clearly talking about gen 1
@BiohazardScott
@BiohazardScott 5 лет назад
You learn that Charizard is not a dragon.
@jared-DAD4GAME
@jared-DAD4GAME 5 лет назад
Leon S. Kennedy To be fair, just reading the Pokédex entry would tell you that 😂
@suggestiveguy
@suggestiveguy 7 лет назад
Man I don't know why but i'm addicted to these videos oh yeah and how about Starmie next?
@allidoiswin184
@allidoiswin184 7 лет назад
Suggestion Guy agreed.
@abcdefg98765
@abcdefg98765 7 лет назад
Same here man. I just subbed to this channel after watching all 4 pokemon vids
@evan1735
@evan1735 7 лет назад
Suggestion Guy same
@TheLonelyNihilego
@TheLonelyNihilego 7 лет назад
Suggestion Guy I agree
@tommy3365
@tommy3365 7 лет назад
agreed
@june-lol1175
@june-lol1175 7 лет назад
Starmie seemed to be at the top of the game in Gen 1, but how did this sea star fair as the years went on?
@umbrellaeyethingguy4665
@umbrellaeyethingguy4665 7 лет назад
Its still OU and I like to use it as lead because of coverage
@terrencelevy56
@terrencelevy56 7 лет назад
yea, starmie's great! (with focus sash)
@shepardthemailman
@shepardthemailman 7 лет назад
Terrence Levy or Life orb, and max hp+leftovers+recover is actually pretty bulky
@TA-ew9bi
@TA-ew9bi 7 лет назад
It's still gud
@TA-ew9bi
@TA-ew9bi 7 лет назад
Pokémon like starmie don't really need a whole video because it would basically just amount to "yeah it was good in every gen and it's still good"
@hermionegranger1423
@hermionegranger1423 7 лет назад
I love randomly running into channels i've never heard of that are very good!
@flaregamer64
@flaregamer64 7 лет назад
Same. But don't we all?
@jasonpark1891
@jasonpark1891 6 лет назад
Hermione Granger aren’t u supposed to be studying spells or defeating Voldemort rn?
@quantumhornet211
@quantumhornet211 5 лет назад
jason park already happened some years ago. She should be fighting for elf rights in the ministry of magic or goblin rights or whatever.
@MayaMaya-si3nw
@MayaMaya-si3nw 5 лет назад
@@jasonpark1891 haha what an original and funny joke
@Waxwell1
@Waxwell1 4 года назад
just see some of their content now :)
@kandyrew
@kandyrew 7 лет назад
ahhh my favorite pokemon :D
@Snpaulie
@Snpaulie 4 года назад
wait
@Jfeathers_
@Jfeathers_ 3 года назад
Oh hi kandyrew I love your apex vids
@mariahcareyunited
@mariahcareyunited 3 года назад
Wait kandy wtf I was just watching ur vid
@Lyncin
@Lyncin 3 года назад
Another dragonite enjoyer, i see
@shadowtitanx3962
@shadowtitanx3962 4 года назад
New Dragonite Vid: Allow me to introduce myself.
@illeatyochildren6673
@illeatyochildren6673 6 лет назад
Dragonite looks like he should belong in Dragontales
@cascadianvoidmapping8642
@cascadianvoidmapping8642 5 лет назад
Dragontales, dragontales, (I forgot the rest ;-;)
@rwkc3004
@rwkc3004 5 лет назад
Great show in my childhood
@YouCanCallMeReTro
@YouCanCallMeReTro 4 года назад
And this is why I love him so much. Dragonite is just a walking (correction: Flying) symbol of my early childhood
@kaioh16
@kaioh16 4 года назад
Oh, that game was so much fun!
@michaelyoakam8206
@michaelyoakam8206 5 лет назад
A year later and your channel has grown and improved so much! It is amazing to look at these videos in retrospect.
@HaloLvl43Legit
@HaloLvl43Legit 7 лет назад
I was hated in my school for my team of broken pokemon. Specifically a gen 1 high speed EV Dragonite(through carbos) with wrap(broken in gen 1 because as long as you went first you could chain wraps and your opponent couldn't do anything about it.) that I'd essentially sweep teams with. Good times.
@CodIsRecycledBS
@CodIsRecycledBS 7 лет назад
Chris Stark There were no EV's, IV's or natures until gen 3...
@HaloLvl43Legit
@HaloLvl43Legit 7 лет назад
I mean I maxed him with carbos. My bad.
@kab572
@kab572 7 лет назад
+Serenity Actually, EVs did existed in gen 1 but the numbers were much higher meaning you can max out every stat. IVs kinda existed, but it was known as DVs. Instead of the max 31 IVs we have today, DVs only had a max of 15.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 6 лет назад
I als o make everybody rage with mine. Specifically with the Substitute+Dragon Dance set. So broken lel.
@pikkon899
@pikkon899 6 лет назад
+Chris Stark You didn't max Dragonite's speed with Carbos. You still had another 3,000 EV's left for Maximum speed. Vitamins only gave about 2560 pints in each stat for the first 2 generations. Either your friends didn't use Vitamins at all or they did but in limited quality.
@JK-gw9jb
@JK-gw9jb 4 года назад
4:28 One thing to note, a mistake that was most likely overlooked, is that Salamence was not banned in Gen 4 until July 2010; four years after DPP came out and only 2 months before Gen 5 was released.
@La.idBack
@La.idBack 7 лет назад
History behind Gengar
@Corvidae10
@Corvidae10 7 лет назад
Gen1 good Gen 2 good gen 3 good Gen 4 good Gen 4.5 (platinum) hypnosis goes from 70 to 60 accuracy, still good gen 5 good gen 6 good (mega was almost instantly banned) gen 7 loses levitate, is now UU at best
@MrOH95
@MrOH95 7 лет назад
Gengar is great in gen7, its regular in UU but very good en OU, in the next tier shift he comeback OU for usage.
@Begeru
@Begeru 7 лет назад
it loses levitate? damn that's lame.
@seanmarasigan7913
@seanmarasigan7913 7 лет назад
O10FTW gen 7 Gengar is still good especially in VGC. Certified Tapu killer.
@Charlymander
@Charlymander 7 лет назад
Man! Good video with ACTUAL information, knowledge and history unlike the huge amount of ignorance other channels spread about Pokemon. Thanks A LOT
@quirkle7538
@quirkle7538 7 лет назад
What about gengar next ?
@bkebradley
@bkebradley 6 лет назад
Real talk, going back to these older videos, it is astonishing how much your voice over work has improved in just a year. Keep up the good work.
@someanimechannel5531
@someanimechannel5531 4 года назад
Guess which trainer from Pallet Town just caught his first Dragonite...
@revinanthonydagcuta4533
@revinanthonydagcuta4533 4 года назад
is that Ash Ketchum??
@mikenash5862
@mikenash5862 4 года назад
Gary
@thundernuts0
@thundernuts0 4 года назад
didn't expect to see such new relative comments with a bunch of likes lol wow!
@jeonghan2493
@jeonghan2493 4 года назад
@@df27d ash catch it along with a gengar too
@murillof7337
@murillof7337 4 года назад
Ash’s mom!
@TheStarWarsSoFar
@TheStarWarsSoFar 2 года назад
I think this is the video that started the "How good was -- actually?" Not just in Pokemon. I've seen videos about boxers that are named this. What a great idea! Props for being the first. I used to watch all of these when you first started making them.
@jameshyphenthekhrp
@jameshyphenthekhrp 7 лет назад
Since the past four have been from Gen 1, I'll suggest covering my favorite Pokémon from the generation: Magikarp. but for real, I think you should do one of these on Beedrill
@MrRfh3
@MrRfh3 7 лет назад
Dragonite is love dragonite is life
@sanik9002
@sanik9002 5 лет назад
rt
@magicarp9437
@magicarp9437 4 года назад
Yes
@chocolateex1907
@chocolateex1907 7 лет назад
Please do one on based Azumarill. It went from zero to hero.
@ianluk6385
@ianluk6385 6 лет назад
Zero to hero, just like (wait for a few seconds) that.
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
@ZakanaHachihaCBC 5 лет назад
I still find it Hilarious how it was the addition of the Fairy type that did this lol
@YT-ok4zk
@YT-ok4zk 5 лет назад
Who would have thunk?
@rhyno39
@rhyno39 5 лет назад
The dragon types ruled the world...but everything changed when the fairy nation attacked
@kristenk9990
@kristenk9990 7 лет назад
This brings back memories. My brother used to beat me in yellow with his dragonite. Never could beat him.
@hokostudios
@hokostudios 7 лет назад
Dragonite's definitely interesting to run, and has some versatility that can be easily overlooked. I've personally been running a defensive Dragonite on my team for some time now. He pairs well with entry hazards with Dragon Tail, and most folks expect an offensive Pokémon when they see it. You still have to watch out for Ice- and Fairy-types, but it's awfully nice to shrug off a STAB Ice Beam from your opponent and shuffle them out right away.
@VolcanoHeadProdution
@VolcanoHeadProdution 7 лет назад
I'm so glad you included gen6 flynite set, that sets pure flames. I think you should've perhaps mentioned dragonites rain sets in bw ou, with access to hurricane, thunder, aqua tail/surf and eithe espeed on the wall breaker set, or agility for a unique special sweeper. Really good video though. :D
@olliecyclops9164
@olliecyclops9164 7 лет назад
Plz do Starmie. I would be cool to see how it does!
@Mikoinv
@Mikoinv 7 лет назад
i loooooove these videos. I've been a pokemon fan since 1999..and i still learn new things like dragon type moves being special not physical prior to gen 4. You should post more videos often, you're pretty good. 🖒💖
@iConspirxcy
@iConspirxcy 7 лет назад
I just wish Dragonite could get a mega evolution
@Abdega
@Abdega 7 лет назад
iConspirxcy Gaming same, Also flygon
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 7 лет назад
>Wanting mega cancer on your Pokemon. Thankfully it looks like the mega gimmick has died being replaced with z moves and hideous regional forms which are pretty bad gimmicks themselves. Hopefully Gamefreak keeps their shitty gimmicks in the trash can from now on.
@miningtrout2868
@miningtrout2868 7 лет назад
D8W2P4 hideous regional formes? Alolan marowak says hi.
@D8W2P4
@D8W2P4 7 лет назад
>Implying any of the regional forms look good.
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 6 лет назад
D8W2P4 Plenty of them look good
@adammackay8347
@adammackay8347 7 лет назад
Starmie, he's been mentioned in every video so far and seems to be a counter/able to check most Pokémon. Keep up the vids love them
@SageDarkwind
@SageDarkwind 5 лет назад
"You should get a Dragonite! That's right! A Dragonite! It's immune to freaking *everything*!" *Uses Blizzard* Yep, everything.
@mario712145
@mario712145 7 лет назад
Dragonite's first sprite had that badass smirk that made it so cool.
@UltimateDragonX9999
@UltimateDragonX9999 4 года назад
Who’s here after he remake his dragonite video.
@juangarcia2592
@juangarcia2592 7 лет назад
I would love a video on Starmie. Keep up the good content!
@HardboiledBread
@HardboiledBread 7 лет назад
Love this content. You could make a video on ratata and I'll still watch it.
@regal677
@regal677 7 лет назад
John Bucher ikr
@Justinbyleth
@Justinbyleth 7 лет назад
FEAR
@trentsilva6710
@trentsilva6710 7 лет назад
Sergio B. The whole video: Some dumbass tried the FEAR method and it failed.
@Eldred91
@Eldred91 7 лет назад
Starmie Or Nidoking would be nice to see next! Great video as always.
@MerlinPrismriver100
@MerlinPrismriver100 4 года назад
Congratulations Satoshi "Ash" Ketchum for catching this iconic beauty!!!
@PatTyploosion
@PatTyploosion 7 лет назад
Honestly I love your videos man. I watch them one after another! Keep making them!
@lucparmentier2908
@lucparmentier2908 7 лет назад
Could you do Salamence ? or if you stick with the firs gen for now, I would love to see Lapras. Great video as always, could you repost your april fools on Unown, it was hilarious.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 лет назад
Lapras became such a weird pokemon, it seems really good then no one uses it then it randomly does stuff, like beating the crap out of Palkia, & then it drops out of use again, it's mostly just the sheer cold pokemon now it seems
@lucparmentier2908
@lucparmentier2908 7 лет назад
Marcusjnmc yeah, Lapras is a weird Pokemon. although he was super fun to use in VGC 2016. Walling Kyogre was fun.
@Corvidae10
@Corvidae10 7 лет назад
Lapras was good in the first few gens. It gets replaced by pokemon who just play its role better than it from gen 4 on.
@alexanderwall1303
@alexanderwall1303 7 лет назад
I know absolutely nothing about competitive pokemon, but I still found this video really informative, entertaining, and well put together. It really seems like you know what you're talking about
@StarVsTheOutside
@StarVsTheOutside 7 лет назад
Do Gengar or Starmie next!
@Deadgye
@Deadgye Год назад
G5 multiscale Dragonite had a rather common revenge counter, which was Ditto coming in to become a better multiscale Dragonite. With rain being so prevalent my friend ran a hurricane superpower inner focus Dragonite. Hurricane in rain was a beast, and superpower necessitated inner focus, which incidentally caused the common revenge Ditto to get destroyed. Their reaction upon realizing it wasn't multiscale was always delicious.
@bobthornton9730
@bobthornton9730 7 лет назад
As a competitive Melee fan, I enjoy your reference to Ice Climbers.
@VanityEgo
@VanityEgo 5 лет назад
I really liked Dragonite in Gen5 because it got 100% Hurricane and Thunder in the rain. Access to Earthquake also allowed it to handle Electric-types, so it basically had most of the big threats to Water Pokémon covered.
@BussyDestroyerTrue
@BussyDestroyerTrue 7 лет назад
Dragon Dance and Band were my favorite sets from Gen 5 and 6. Wrap in RBY was annoying. AgiliWrap Set was notorious back in the day. I remember that being abused around people I knew back then.
@Cpt.Deplorable
@Cpt.Deplorable 7 лет назад
Great video, as usual. I myself would like to see Gyarados next.
@waz9758
@waz9758 7 лет назад
I wanna see some gen 3 boys, possibly salamence, flygon, or aggron?
@waz9758
@waz9758 7 лет назад
I mean gen 1 is pretty big on its own but maybe he can do just a small portion of any gen just to mix things up once and a while
@trentsilva6710
@trentsilva6710 7 лет назад
Gen 3 is a piece of shit and deserves nothing.
@wowwt
@wowwt 7 лет назад
flygon was awful sadly lol it's stats were just garbage
@farmerwithshotgun5166
@farmerwithshotgun5166 7 лет назад
Trent Silva What makes Gen 3 bad?
@KevofThes
@KevofThes 6 лет назад
Farmer With Shotgun, The Pokémon of gen 3 all look prehistoric, mediocre ish and bland.
@LadyLeomon
@LadyLeomon 7 лет назад
Would you do a History of Mew in future, please? Because it was so rare I want to see if you could find out how it stacked against its scarier 'evil clone'? Thanks, I love this series btw ^_^
@bratpun4760
@bratpun4760 7 лет назад
do gengar pls
@Voyager023
@Voyager023 7 лет назад
Brat Pun gengar would be awesome
@johnshaw5564
@johnshaw5564 7 лет назад
Brat Pun yeah. Because gengar was consistently OU until gen 7, and even in gen 7 gengar is still good
@fesarmz5272
@fesarmz5272 7 лет назад
BlitzKnight
@TheVengefulVadam
@TheVengefulVadam 7 лет назад
Zapdos or Starmie would be cool to see next. Also, love your channel! :D
@frozenvoltz6739
@frozenvoltz6739 4 года назад
With the current remake FSG already released this video is gonna be harder to watch lol
@ThatHollowGuy
@ThatHollowGuy 7 лет назад
Loving these videos! Would be interesting to see the history of Cresselia, it's cemented in doubles it seems.
@breynard1168
@breynard1168 4 года назад
now Ash finally got one
@polnapanties
@polnapanties 7 лет назад
I love your videos and I end up always watching them no matter what Pokemon you're covering. Maybe you could do one of my favourite pokemon next please? If you could do *Chansey* that would be awesome!
@BenJackbottlenose
@BenJackbottlenose 4 года назад
Who’s here after the remake
@Goku-jk8qo
@Goku-jk8qo 4 года назад
Me
@TheWolfsHD
@TheWolfsHD 7 лет назад
Love the fact that you compared dragonite with melee's ICs
@keryang9834
@keryang9834 7 лет назад
I miss my 6 clone level 100 Dragonite on my GOLD version.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 лет назад
Dragonite did something in doubles, it had a place in some moderately well known & high placing(on the online ladder) japanese battle spot rain teams, both in '15 & very early on in the '16 season, but it's usage dropped off almost completely throughout the rest of that season
@douglasammirati8450
@douglasammirati8450 7 лет назад
Very nice! How about Gengar and Starmie next?
@eltomlo
@eltomlo 7 лет назад
Just subscribed! I really like your Pokemon analysis videos...keep up the good work!
@samratsingh1907
@samratsingh1907 5 лет назад
I spent 8 hours playing voltorb switch to get a Dratini in my current Soulsilver playthrough😣, it better be good.
@savagesantos6x135
@savagesantos6x135 4 года назад
samrat singh It took me 2 hours, worth it tho
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 4 года назад
You could have gotten one from Dragon's den wtf
@watermelon8300
@watermelon8300 4 года назад
Yeah but you can get it before the 3rd badge at the gamecorner
@NeroAngelo616
@NeroAngelo616 7 лет назад
Groudon, Smeargle and Alakafuckingzam next please. Kangaskhan, Tauros and Exeggutor would be fun ones to do. Thank you very much for introcuing me to the Nintendo Cup Tier lists! Its really nice to still see them in this day and age.
@plaguedivine6335
@plaguedivine6335 7 лет назад
I trained a Dragonite to level 75. He surpassed my expectations he was so cool. I wonder traded him with a moveset of... Thunder PunchAqua TailOutrage Hurricane Somewhere out there I hope someone values him, trained him to level 100, transferred him to Sun/ Moon and registers for competition
@totalpokemon1776
@totalpokemon1776 7 лет назад
These videos are awesome! ^^ If I had to say who I'd want to see next... I'm not sure why, but I'm really curious as to how Tauros has fared over the years.
@n4m31e55
@n4m31e55 7 лет назад
how about alakazam because psychic was broken in gen 1 or gengar??
@brandonkearley9071
@brandonkearley9071 7 лет назад
Hey man loving your channel it's very interesting I would love to see history of starme next
@dheerajduppalli1453
@dheerajduppalli1453 6 лет назад
i defeated fire red elite four with only my level 85 dragonite i just had to be a little careful against lorelli move pool was ice beam(dragonair,dragonite,aerodactyl,fight types), thunderbolt(lapras dewgong gyarados cloyister,golbat,charizard),flamethrower(jynx, agathas ghosts) outrage(all other pokemons) bot those moves at coin center in celadon
@crumpscrumbs5007
@crumpscrumbs5007 7 лет назад
Since you're taking requests, I'd like to see Heracross. Flareon or Vaporeon would be nice too.
@SkullKidman
@SkullKidman 7 лет назад
Do Chansey next !!
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 лет назад
I want to see a Chansey one too !
@kyla605
@kyla605 7 лет назад
SkullKidman nah do blissey
@SkullKidman
@SkullKidman 7 лет назад
Kyla , Blissey appear in the 2nd generation , was more use than Chansey , but in the 6th Gen , Chansey have been realy used with an item that appear in gen 6 , and Chansey is more important the strategy
@juanpunch2793
@juanpunch2793 7 лет назад
chansey summary: if your physical attackers are dead, you are screwed. the end.
@javiersobrino4926
@javiersobrino4926 7 лет назад
"easily" .. maybe after 5 turns xD
@irakyl
@irakyl 7 лет назад
Hey man! I just discovered your channel and want to say i admire it. i'd really like a youtuber who talks about the competitive scene op pokemon and stuff like that. I'm subscribing and leaving a nice comment now when it still matters, i can see your channel growing exponentially. Perhaps you could make a video about roles certain pokemon fill? i tihnk that's what i like the most about pokemon; how they fill a certain niche and check/counter others, and what makes certain pokemon overpowered. Like the popularity of cloud nine mons back when infinite weather was still a thing, or how sableye and spiritomb both didnt have weaknesses. Love you.
@efisiospiga6540
@efisiospiga6540 7 лет назад
Do Snorlax please
@tentonterror2274
@tentonterror2274 7 лет назад
Efisio Mii preach it.
@syndrac6254
@syndrac6254 7 лет назад
Dat Generation 3 Hyperbeam one shot....LOL
@KaiserKenshi
@KaiserKenshi 7 лет назад
The OG derp dragon, im look at you Goodra. Dude, i wish you could do the legendary bird trio, especially articuno, even tho im not that worried about it coz judging by the quallity of the videos im sure we will get em eventually :D so, i'll wait and enjoy any videos you release
@deadboyspoem2
@deadboyspoem2 7 лет назад
weakness policy dragonite was op
@sayoyozora633
@sayoyozora633 7 лет назад
dude this videos are aweesome for some one like new into competitive pkmn its incredible good cause it has great informations adn start value keep it up
@adachisans5664
@adachisans5664 7 лет назад
Do with gyrados please
@adachisans5664
@adachisans5664 7 лет назад
Am i first?
@pepedomingoscastanas1732
@pepedomingoscastanas1732 7 лет назад
Sans The skeleton yes
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 лет назад
Gyarados is a really interesting one
@Corvidae10
@Corvidae10 7 лет назад
gen 1 Meh Gen 2 Meh gen 3 Meh Gen 4 Dragon dance, now physical water moves, its top tier Gen 5 probab;ly at its best here with wather teams everywhere top tier gen 6 ~top tier, with everything becoming so strong and it getting one of the worst megas, it cant keep up as well Gen 7 Same problem as gen 6, still good but nothing too strong
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 7 лет назад
it had dragon dance in gen 3, & it was one of the best megas in gen 6 due to how it matched up with the later OU metagame, it just destroyed entire teams
@grrt7071
@grrt7071 7 лет назад
nice video! one thing though is that while wrap didn't work on Gengar in gen 1, the trapping effect still did allowing for a free switch.
@CamSTL
@CamSTL 4 года назад
Who else came back to watch this one before watching the GREAT video
@camoking3605
@camoking3605 4 года назад
Such a development
@vfxhenryy
@vfxhenryy 3 года назад
I liked the good old days of me :D I wish i could go back in time
@Korabro
@Korabro 7 лет назад
You should do Scizor next
@MurderousJohnny
@MurderousJohnny 7 лет назад
The video would be too short. It would go something like this "Always use Scizor. The End"
@Rain593
@Rain593 7 лет назад
Murderous Johnny Scizor is UU now tho....
@Korabro
@Korabro 7 лет назад
Mega Scizor has been one of the top pokemon in OU since its release
@Icewolfnector
@Icewolfnector 7 лет назад
Ah Scizor...always one of my absolute favourite Pokemon
@MurderousJohnny
@MurderousJohnny 7 лет назад
Great the video can now be atleast 1 minute long. For most of it's history Scizor has be close to perfect as an ou pokemon could get. There was never a real reason to not use him.
@semicolon6294
@semicolon6294 7 лет назад
Comparisons with Alola forms would be great for this series so I recommend Golem. Or maybe one of my favourites, Exeggutor.
@rakysuchus3828
@rakysuchus3828 5 лет назад
1 word: *Multiscale.*
@edwardhugo2500
@edwardhugo2500 7 лет назад
Dragonite has always been my favorite, ever since painstakingly leveling up my Dratini I got from the Safari Zone. He didn't only have to be a sweeper, you may realize. He got Heal Bell in Gen III as well as Haze from the Egg. Also Hurricane is a good option for wallbreakers.
@chrishanson5846
@chrishanson5846 6 лет назад
Am I the only one who uses dragonite on stall? Ev:252hp/252spd/4spdef Substitute Roost Fly Toxic Item:leftovers
@arnold20139
@arnold20139 7 лет назад
I have never liked competitive battling, but this is very nice and informative. I've been playing Pokemon since I was 5, and now I'm 25 I've just learned how to barely use berries and items correctly in Gen 7. Lol I'm so old.
@giargg
@giargg 7 лет назад
DO SNORLAX cuz its op..... and fat...... and its SSS Tier
@chuyrenteria6252
@chuyrenteria6252 5 лет назад
*in gen 2.
@rhyno39
@rhyno39 5 лет назад
And it shoots lasers from its eyes
@raylob9807
@raylob9807 5 лет назад
Congratulations on your first 1M+ Pokemon Video!
@ninjax9675
@ninjax9675 7 лет назад
Do Gyarados!
@skaybestrog
@skaybestrog 7 лет назад
mention of superpower in gen 4/5 and iron head in gen 6/7 woulda been nice, aside from that very nice throwback video!
@DecadoPrime
@DecadoPrime 7 лет назад
+False Swipe Gaming You should do Beedrill next
@petelee2477
@petelee2477 7 лет назад
DecadoPrime beedrill in 60 seconds Awful to border line unusable through the early games then suddenly it got blessed with a mega stone in X and Y however this new mega stone only put to UU because back then when a Pokémon mega evolved the speed stat isn't recalculated until the next turn meaning it would either risk being outsped or would be forced to run protect (which is a waisted slot for a potential coverage or support move like drill run or knock off) nothing changed in ORAS then when sun and moon debuted speed was now recalculated on the first turn(one moveslot makes a big difference) and a new move called fell stinger gave it the extra boost it needed to go in OU however despite this it still struggled in the tier because it was overshadowed by the faster, more versatile, and more powerful pheromosa which didn't even need a mega stone to be viable meaning that you could run it with another potential mega however beedrill's competition with pheromosa didn't last long as it eventually proved to be too much for the tier to handle so it eventually got banned to ubers giving beedrill just the opportunity it needed to take the spotlight.
@charlesawilliamsda9275
@charlesawilliamsda9275 7 лет назад
DecadoPrime Even with pheromosa gone I wouldn't use drill because it's still walled by half the meta.
@petelee2477
@petelee2477 7 лет назад
Charles Williams but you have to admit, its usage has gone up significantly sense the ban
@_maza_2443
@_maza_2443 7 лет назад
pete lee Nobody actually uses Fell Stinger though.
@hollowchristmas4263
@hollowchristmas4263 7 лет назад
pete lee Yeah, except Beedrill was still awful in XY, considering the mega stone was released in ORAS.
@joshuacorea
@joshuacorea 7 лет назад
You should make these weekly just got urself a subscriber, keep at it 👍!
@quintonblackburn3916
@quintonblackburn3916 7 лет назад
For those curious on how Dragonite is fairing in Gen 7... Meh Dragon spam and priority are shit because of all the fairies running around and especially tapu Lele, but thanks to Z-crystals, Gigavolt Havock Dragonite is pretty nice, letting it dent and blow past most of the things that walled it previously like Azumarill and Tapu Fini. However, it's still incredibly hard to justify using over a more consistent dragon like the Latis or Garchomp, or as a Z-move DDancer like Gyarados.
@anirudhviswanathan3986
@anirudhviswanathan3986 5 лет назад
Multiscale helps though
@TheStrongestBaka
@TheStrongestBaka 7 лет назад
Gen 5 was the golden age for Dragonite. No fairy types in the game yet so the whole "spam dragon moves to win" strategy worked really well. Yet with Multiscale it could always take a hit and setup/retaliate. It'd also run Lum Berry for status moves. That guy was everywhere, running physical, special and mixed sets, being a sweeper, wallbreaker or even a tank/parashuffler. Oh, and did i mention a whole bunch of special moves it learned becoming amazing in rain?
@24xv555
@24xv555 7 лет назад
Scyther, Gengar, Gyrados, Starmie, 3 Legendary birds, first three eveelutions
@Juancarlosinc1995
@Juancarlosinc1995 7 лет назад
Dude love your videos , i really hope you can keep up the good work ... oh Starmie next pls XD
@LuMnOsITi
@LuMnOsITi 6 лет назад
You sound so bored throughout this whole video lol
@PrimeroJinJusuke
@PrimeroJinJusuke 5 лет назад
LuMnOsITi Thankfully, he got better.
@DanielFlores-fo1ee
@DanielFlores-fo1ee 5 лет назад
He ran out of weed
@Peusterokos1
@Peusterokos1 4 года назад
@Moist Tony he's either young, definitively european and considering his username probably Polish, therefore christian, so the mention of weed is like invoking the super devil
@rudelive1848
@rudelive1848 4 года назад
@Moist Tony i love your name
@seanmarasigan7913
@seanmarasigan7913 7 лет назад
I love Dragonite. I like these video series. You should also make a video about the Gengar.
@victinoko8796
@victinoko8796 7 лет назад
Starmie pls, you've mentioned him in every video
@MrIronJustice
@MrIronJustice 4 года назад
We could use a remake here, good video but your newer ones go into way more detail.
@jmoxd
@jmoxd 7 лет назад
Nidoking, he's definitely my favorite.
@seabit253
@seabit253 7 лет назад
I'm very interested in finding out about Porygon and it's line over the years... It's such a unique line that even the first evolution can be used to some success, and Porygon 2 and Z are equally strong but fill different roles.
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