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Mod list for all the mods I've got outside the standard Seablock Mod Pack. Clean Floor Larger Lamps Mechanicus Milestones Pushbutton Recipe Book Recursive Blueprints Santa's Nixie Tubes Stats GUI Text Plates Time Speed UI Hotkeys Vehicle Snap Wire Shortcuts (Added it halfway through the video because I was getting mad at red and green wires taking paper)
Lore for Mechanicus and Seablocks: It's actually pretty easy considering the first Tyranid attack was on a waterworld. Just imagine you are stranded on Tyran because your ship was destroyied and you now have to try to rejoin with the Imperium. There are some few Tyranids left on isolated islands after the attack, so they aren't in synapse range and only have the animalistic urge to eat you. Since the water now is rich in alien bioforms you as a magos biologis can use this to build the rocket. There you go. lol🔥
Personally I was thinking it'd be more that they've been snorting crushed gallium capacitors and one dare led to another and BOOM! you have a random Magos waking up on a tiny island with a pounding headache and a slur in binary sharpied on their forehead.
Well, but didn't the Tyranids suck the whole world dry from any biomass, as well as all the water, practically leaving only a lifeless, crumbly piece of rock sediment behind? So it would help if you were lucky enough to find yourself stranded on Tyran before they've devoured everything, however, you'd better hurry up building that rocket from basically nothing then.
i would love that answer but truth be toled when tyranids devoure a world, they strip it of all biomatter. so technically no water, no lifeforms even no tyranids just barren rock.... sadly
we only put you through these scenarios because you are the only person on youtube who actually finishes them. everyone else drops them halfway through
Actually there are a number of completed Seablock runs about. Some people definitely prefer DD's style of editing out most of the process for pacing, but many others finish even the big mods like this.
I really, REALLY hate it when youtubers do that. Especially with games that are slow in the beginning and only get better over time... youtubers always seem to anbandon those games before they get good...
@@dennisklomp2361 I would really just recommend a basic youtube search. It didn't take me long to find completed ones by Zisteau, Onerous, and SeiferKatt. I know there are others.
@@BlackoutGootraxian To be fair, the algorithm - and therefore audience - teaches them to do that. Long series do not do well in general; when people stop watching, depends on the channel and topic but often it's around the 10th episode in a series if not before and thorough seablock runs take a *lot* more than that, the natural conclusion is that most people aren't interested in it anymore. For channels that make content in the interest of having an audience - which frankly is almost all of them - it's hard to justify putting in the work for episode after episode if people aren't watching. I did a vanilla beginner tutorial series a while back which a good number of those who found it seemed to like, but it was still something that not many people watched overall. I'm glad I finished it, but also definitely understand why creators sometimes don't. Often they're just trying to listen to what the audience is telling them.
As a non-factories player I literally can’t understand most of what you are talking about, but I can tell it takes a ton of logic, planning, and creativity. Love watching you!
41:44 "But if I point out every single little facet of this factory, we'll be here forever" That's...why I'm here. Edit: Also, I'm glad to see that organic chemistry in this game is as painful as it is in real life.
We have yet to see how much pain the organic chemistry in the mod provides, but synthesis can be so much more tedious... Industrial stuff may not be so bad though as it is streamlined?
Is that why i just suddenly stop making progress after i research red circuits? the overwhelming feeling of what's ahead that i become paralyzed by the progress needed?
Some may think they are cheaty as hell but I love Bob's Inserters. Without them I have trouble desiging builds that look good. With them it all just makes sense.
I agree, it just makes more sense. Are we supposed to believe that the engineer can build a nuclear reactor by hand and yet cannot make an inserter insert at a right angle?
I left it to the mod creator to decide what tools they as the developer/designer believe is fair. If they provided it, who am I to say it's overpowered.
I see new video from dosh and the amount of euphoria I feel cannot be described with simple words. It is as wide as the oceans, as tall as the mountains. Indescribable happiness.
It looks like bean power has actually gotten easier since the last time I played. You used to have to send the beans through a press, filter vegetable oil, run it through a refinery, and get fuel oil. You also had to process the nutrient pulp byproduct into more fuel.
Every plant produces different amounts of Oil and Nutrient pulp, beans are on the nutrient pulp side, so its much more efficient to make beans into the pulp itself (which then requires only the one process to make fuel). the vegi oil process is mostly used to be able to have it's byproducts, which skips blue algae. When I played originally I got confused too since "oh this one says oil." I'm pretty sure this has been the way it was for a while, but its an easy thing to overlook.
after rewatching it while playing the mod myself, I find it interesting how different our playstyles are. While you prefer to only get pure ores from sorting, I liked to mix the crushed ores together to the green and orange mixture ores that can be turned into copper+tinn and iron+manganite since they don't yield sluge. The iron and manganite can be melted together to create molten iron, which basically turns all the crystalized ores for the green mixture into iron at a 1/1 ratio
Damn Dosh really learned a lot from doing the no belt challenge. I don't know if he would've designed a mall like that without the train belt hell he went through, given that I don't think I've seen any other factorio player make a Mall design like that before.
You haven't seen anyone make such a mall is probably because vanilla doesn't have these huge wireable containers that allow you to fit many inserters and assemblers around it.
It’s not surprising that the design isn’t very common since the cargo wagon is the only item storage building in vanilla Factorio which isn’t 1x1. And like he said, the inability to apply item filters to the storage slots makes it a bit of a pain anyway
@@bmobmo6438 but you can't do universal inserters that only move needed items at a time and also can move anything at all, not only 5 predefined, cause they depend on storage information which wagons can't provide. though this propably might be done with a memory cell like in the sushi belt run, or you can hook up every wagon to a locomotive and read contents on the stations, but that's some thin ice and deep waters, i'd better not wander around there, forbidden knowledge should stay forbidden °_°
You can do it too. You just have to prepare first. 1. Get a fast forward mod. Yes it does help in a minor way. 2. Get all your starter blueprints ready. This will save crazy amounts of time 3. Have a checklist ready and check off as you go. Seems basic but it helps you progress instead of become paralyzed (he mentioned this) Ive done Seablock around 5 times now. Super fun.
@@Paultimate7 I play games like Factorio very slowly because it takes a lot of time for me to think through the processes and plan out my constructions. While I could theoretically do this in 80h in-game, it would take me lots of practice and several playthroughs
@@Carlos-ux7gvYeah... My current Factorio world is at 50 hours (although probably 90% of that was me accidentally leaving the game running in the background a couple times) and I still haven't even so much as created any yellow science yet.
@@nikkiofthevalley yellow science - just make lots of green circuit, less red and combine them to blue circuit somewhere in the base. This will net you lots of upgrades you can do by hand. Then start on low density, which is copper, plastic and steel. Basically what I learned in factorio is: go nuts with the scale of things.
The nice thing about Dosh is that he has got that engineer explaining ability. They unironically make the best teachers and they probably would be if they did not get paid a laughable amount. I can almost follow along the incredibly arduous angel experience thanks to him. Great vid
I have to hire and manage engineers and software developers for teaching roles, for my job. Dosh is the exception to the rule, most engineers are worthless at it. Dosh is literally better than every single engineer I've interviewed.
I'm inclined to agree regarding engineers being good teachers. Going by the teachers I've had, those with backgrounds as engineers who later on became teachers are, in my experience, better than those who went straight into teaching. Of course there are exceptions to this, but it ~feels~ to be generally true, sample size of rooughly 20~ teachers and lecturers over 4 years of studying engineering. Ofc it depends on what is being taught too :)
I have made a career out of being an intermediary between engineers and the rest of the manufacturing world. In my experience engineers tend to see a problem very narrowly and can only explain things in terms that are meaningful to them. An engineer that can think outside of their field is a rarity in my experience
Not sure about that lol, my entire career plan is built around me translating engineer speak to the real world due to how notoriously poor engineer’s people skills are.
A new Dosh video is the highlight of the month, im gonna rewatch this like 30 times until the next one comes out. Anyways, the chemical nature of the modpack intrigues me, im a chemist by trade and seeing how it works out in factorio is so sick, the builds are nice and complicated and every product and by product becomes an educt somewhere down the line. Love it.
@@andyb1837 I tried that mod one, and I got to say ... PAIN PAIN PAIN, the map gen SUCKED, my ONLY aluminum deposit was like 15 minute walk from my base and surrounded by biters that I could not kill off. Did not even make it to Green science. (And this is from someone Who has completed a run of Angels/Bobs mod before)
@@TheJosephegould To be fair to the mod, it's meant to be played with biters off. Also, a mod to fix the map generation is recommended by pretty much anyone who has ever played it.
@@Imsomeguy Did not know about the biters, though I recall that I tried a map generation mod with it, it did not work well, Also that was also a fir while ago, so probably the map generation mod is far better than when I used it. Still trying to decide if I want to try another attempt.
Your dedication is admirable. I tried this mod with a friend and after a month or so we gave up once we hit red or blue algae. To do all this solo, voice over and record/edit is mind boggling. I really love the obsure indie games you've covered too.
I got up to where I was gonna need red circuits before I gave up. I traced through the recipe and realized that it was a 20-30 step process depending on how you wanna count and said “yeah that’s enough for me, bye Bob.” Massive kudos for being the hero we need
I've easily got 200 hours on the clock in my seablock save and have only just barely started to transition to rail blocks, at only green science. Dosh is an absolute madman and a scholar
Wow. I am amazed, I didn't realize they made sea block with angels and bobs... I have played the original sea block and got to around 50 ish hours and burned out. Thanks for putting the recipes on the screen, helps to understand the pain and the crazy recipe chains without having to play it personally. I'm looking forward to the next one!
Honestly, that's only really a thing at the start imo. I'm playing 10X science cost and I hardly ever need to wait for anything. There's always something to do. Hell, the reason I'm playing 10X in the first place is because I found myself agreeing with some other nutjobs that Seablock on regular science cost often has you unlock new tech way faster than you can actually use it.
I never really had to do that. I think there was a little bit at the start, but then I scaled up production quickly enough that I never needed to wait.
I've watched this video a couple times now over the past month because 1.) its very entertaining, and 2.) its given me inspiration on how to solve problems i've been having in my slow-going seablock world and i have to say, i am nowhere near ready to try and attempt the circuitry madness you did with your warehouse/silo mall. even after watching it multiple times i cant understand how to even start replicating it. you were right, it is complicated.
28:47 pro tip: wading through all the items is optional if you have the item you want on you. you can actually just move the item into the circuit condition like any other slot
In general I have learned to love the constant combinator. Put what you want in, go through a multiply by -1 and then bang everything together on one cable. Item < 0 then being the only required comparison on your inserters. And adding something is as easy as updating the constant combinator. If you go positive from the combinator and multiply stock by -1 you could even directly feed filter inserters.
Can't you just skip that by setting the desired values to negatives in the constant combinator itself? Like if you want 200 iron plate somewhere, you just set the constant combinator to -200 iron.
your content is a joy to watch, you're so competent and intelligent while still being funny and entertaining in a more dry wit kind of way that's perfect for long form content. and your deliberate and detailed commentary on your thoughts and actions makes it feel like I'm learning something even if its just some new vocabulary! you fill an entertainment niche In such an effortless way that I'm honestly inspired by your unabashed and relatable nerdiness! you just like me fr fr!!!
Factorio's a great game and we love playing it. It has great mods that we love playing. It also has great mods that we love on paper but don't always want to commit to (time constraints, scary difficulty, ...), so if we find someone willing to go through it & distill the experience for us, you bet that's the kind of playthroughs that's getting voted :) We appreciate the sacrifice :D
I just finished my first play through of Warptorio. Its not as complicated as Sea block. But I had a lot of fun with the problem solving of your base warping away every so often. Would love to see you play through it as well.
This video really puts my mind at ease.... I have attempted Bobs and Angels many many times but ultimately get lost somewhere in the chaos. Its nice to see thta even an experienced player like you struggles with the endless rebuilding, sideproducts and updating existing infrastructure.
I've watched this video half a dozen times now, partly because it's an excellent well made video, and partly to give me more ideas for my own seablock playthrough! I'v always loved the idea of factorio but I keep falling off the base game, but I'm absolutely addicted to Sea Block. I'm going extremely slow but with Helmod and the Lab Planner mod it's been great fun to just make blueprint after blueprint and slowly build better and better resource chains. Thanks for introducing me to this pack Dosh, can't wait for part 3!
your Mall solution is incredibly impressive actually. I especially loved the part where you use just 2 belts and the few inserters by sending everything from the main bus and wiring those inserters to the warehouse... it's just super creative. I'm going through pY at the moment and havent bothered with a general mall that produces buildings, instead it just does belts/pipes and then a bunch of intermediates and I craft the buildings by hand. It works there because you get logistic bots relatively "early" but damn, I should have done something similar to you.
Another "good" solution I've seen is to use filtered train wagons on a private loop of rail. use 3-4 stations to fill the wagon and then you can add as many stops to build stuff as you want. Name all the stations the same, set the train orders to leave if inactive, and disable all stops that are done making products.
The very first thing you do is make mineralised water, By pumping regular water into a boiler Boiling away the water Taking what's left And adding it to the same water ... What one earth is this mod
It actually does make some sense. You are making the water have a higher concentration hence easier to extract the minerals. That said why not just use the minerals from the boiling.
My original anglebob playthrough I realized water-only was possible, so I did my own water only run... before realizing I wasn't unique and Seablock already existed. Beans and Spaghetti are a pretty classic/cursed combo in many places around the world. Great video as always!
Fantastic video as always. I finished (regular landblock) Angel-Bob's earlier this year with a friend and trains and city blocks are definitely the way to go. It took us at least a month to finish the whole modpack and at least a week of those evenings were spent working on setting up city blocks and train logistics. Good blueprints are key to success.
I started playing Seablock a few days ago, I'm in the transistor production stage. I am very impressed how Dosh managed to make such a beautiful base. Mine is a huge mess.
Whenever I'm down, the Dosh video comes around. There's just something satisfying about seeing someone consistently succeed through their own wit and skills.
New person to factario. Absolutely been loving the game even though all my attempts at a base are abominations so far. Your videos have been a tremendous inspiration and I've learned a lot from them. We need a part 2 of this but you definitely earned another sub :).
I was wondering when you would do bobangel, I did not expect seablock. Good stuff, Dosh edit: when I was playing some bobangel myself, I had a funny idea of not crafting e.g. iron plates right away, but rather keep the molten iron in pipes (I also used a mod that gives much more flexible pipes) and then smelt them into plates on the spot where I needed them, I wonder if you ever had an idea like that
A pipe moves 1.2k fluid per second maximum, round it down to 1.1k since you probably don't want to spam pumps. One plate takes 10 molten metal units. With that in mind, a pipe moves ~110-120 plates per second if you do a pipe-heavy bus (I suggest underground pipes literally everywhere). That is significantly faster and (iirc) cheaper than early game belts at the cost of inability to balance your bus if you use multiple lanes per liquid, and lacking a clear visual representation of resource saturation. I'm sure there's more issues I just did not think of, but a molten metal bus is viable.
@@lmao_nope the problem is it looks like ass source: my "started base" in seablock has a molten metal bus also, it's possible to do priority, sort of. I have an overflow valve going to blue science production
The amount of effort in these vids is incredible lol, I love that you always aim to make a really good factory by the end, not just to struggle to the finish line and call it a day.
dosh, nothing can actually describe the amount of joy i feel every time you post a factorio video. you are so smart with ur contraptions yet u explain it in such simple detail that even the most smoothest of brains can understand. by far my most favourite youtuber, keep making great videos. love u man
My dude. After seeing your Factorio runs I more or less binged your whole channel. Your dedication to games like Tower Climb and La Mulana is simply admirable. You're going nowhere but up. Keep! It! Up!
Thank you for teaching about the Mall you build.. I'm playing Nullius and I was having problems with automation until see your mall and copy it into my game.. really nice solution
ah sweet, an hour of spaghetti madness for my birthday! also gotta love the holy beans, it combines the two best ways to make electricity: use the fusion reactor in the sky and turn a turbine with steam
Thank you for making this. Its always neat and fun to listen to the work done for these. and watching matters of a game Im just horrible at be explained very well.
you become one of my favorite youtuber so far a exelent mic quality, good montage and mostly abble to watch the video again and again without getting bored is rare and good!
Ooh I recognized the LED Storm Track immediately. I love turning on a tim follin playlist every once in a while at work. I also got the pictionary "drawing game" and chronos down pretty good by ear on guitar.
If you ever end up making another tutorial-style video, may I recommend making one on circuit network systems? I think the one you made for the mall in this video or the space exploration cargo rockets would be perfect for an intermediate level of expertise.
Dosh, I love your videos. You're one of 2 channels I watch every video from (the other is Redlettermedia). I always give your videos a thumbs up as well. I appreciate the hard work you do - not just with the game itself, but your editing.
This has been a very enjoyable journey to follow! I can't wait to see the next. As fun as watching you struggle with spaghetti is i would love to see you include the ltn train network and bulk loaders! I think it would add a nice amount of convenience and complexity, plus ltn always makes for very satisfying supply chains and very infuriating bottle necks! And bulk loaders, while a little op for manufactured resources are quite appropriate for dumping large amounts of scrap and slag about 😂. And its a little more interesting then just using bots for smaller bulk transport.
Can i just hit ya with a BEANS my dude. I started with this series and now I have binged just about everything you've put up factorio based and the other vids ive seen are still putting out big bean energy. If I ever sub to a patreon you are number one on this list.
I have been a fan of Factorio since I saw a video of it months after it was released in early access on its own website. Got the game and started playing it off and on for the next 6 years. Took a longer break from it, but after seeing your videos I started to want to play again. Now I started my own SeaBlock, inspired by this video. Almost have my own bean production set up 50 hours in. BTW, that is real time. I don’t have the time warp mod.
Ever since "this base is powered by beans" post i felt like this video was just a one step of coming out, how foolish i was. Nevertheless thank you dosh for doing this and even tho' i don't think you'll see this i hope you won't stop with these factorio movies, i love your content very much and i hope i'll live the day when dosh doshington will press "launch stream" button on obs. long burn the beans
@@sciencemile ho god you start playing with cliff on ?!! you mad man. ps:i am also in pyhell, if you gonna restart go for any mod that give early robot its far less clunky at the beginning.
I’ve attempted this mod with a friend of mine. We got decently far before giving up. The countless outputs for every single process annoyed us every time, to the point where "slag" is now an insult between us, haha!
Ok youve got me hooked, everyday im checking for a new video, there is something about your videos which is just so addictive, its like ASMR i swear, i struggle with insomnia but with your videos i fall alseep easily its amazing
