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How Henry Creel Got His Powers In Stranger Things Season 4 Explained 

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I review, breakdown and explain how Henry Creel got his powers in Stranger Things Season 4 Volume 2. I give my theories and predictions on how I believe he got his initial powers, and how the upside down and The Mind Flayer allowed him to have more powers as Vecna.
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@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 2 года назад
Do you think we will learn more about Henry Creel in Stranger Things Season 5? Comment your thoughts below!
@eliloser
@eliloser 2 года назад
Maybe The Duffers will make a spin-off chapter later on.
@gcbe
@gcbe 2 года назад
100% we will
@leekvision2673
@leekvision2673 2 года назад
El was born with powers as well. Her mom was something or another remember?
@leekvision2673
@leekvision2673 2 года назад
I think they should implant that thing back into his neck that made him docile when he was in the facility with the other kids
@JJMArtwork
@JJMArtwork 2 года назад
I believe we got an “in show” explanation already about Vecna’s powers, even though it wasn’t direct. We had a scene where Hopper was talking about how he blamed his daughters sickness and death on the experiments done on him while in the military. It made me wonder why they decided to include this specific detail. We also know Vecna’s father was also in the military. I think the best and only explanation we are going to get is that the experiments done on Vecna’s father had the unforeseen results of giving him powers, similar to how military experiments on Hopper might have cause his daughter’s death.
@XI.0fficial
@XI.0fficial 2 года назад
The kid who played Henry as a child played the shit out of that role... without even saying a word.
@realfine901
@realfine901 2 года назад
He really did! His facial expressions and everything was on point!
@annad8850
@annad8850 2 года назад
Absolutely. The actor randomly popped up on my TikTok fyp the other day and I was so surprised to hear that he's got an accent, maybe Italian? (don't quote me on that)
@aliasmjm
@aliasmjm 2 года назад
I agree. He totally understood the assignment.
@alfie6441
@alfie6441 2 года назад
@@annad8850 he’s French! I just looked it up because of this comment lol. For some reason it was weird to think that he could actually talk and I just had to hear what he sounded like.
@lesleywillis3650
@lesleywillis3650 2 года назад
He did. He was ferrying and so clever without saying a thing
@paulj.aguilar234
@paulj.aguilar234 2 года назад
The most important thing to remember is that Brenner said Vecna takes the abilities of anyone he murders, so that means he now possesses all the powers of the other MKUltra subjects that were in Hawkins Lab in 1979.
@Sigyn725
@Sigyn725 2 года назад
Well, now he can play "master of puppets" too 😂
@montyjohnn2826
@montyjohnn2826 2 года назад
Damn well EL has her work cut out for her in season 5
@kayladenette5872
@kayladenette5872 2 года назад
luckily 11 was stronger than all of them. i wonder if it compounds strength or just gives additional skills
@georgefotisdramesiotis9061
@georgefotisdramesiotis9061 2 года назад
I think he killed them as Henry and when he became Vecna he got that ability
@pthibault630
@pthibault630 2 года назад
@@georgefotisdramesiotis9061 Correct
@roxannefranco7052
@roxannefranco7052 2 года назад
El's mom had powers too. She used them in season 2 to tell her about her story. In the end, she had a nose bleed just like El.
@alfie6441
@alfie6441 2 года назад
Yeah we don’t talk about that they basically rewrote her story this season
@ghostdreamer7272
@ghostdreamer7272 2 года назад
That’s in this video
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic 2 года назад
@@alfie6441 and we don't talk about Bruno
@CosmicCreeper99
@CosmicCreeper99 2 года назад
@@alfie6441 Well that story was the better story. I’m talking about it.
@archer60x43
@archer60x43 2 года назад
@@brothatwasepic no no no
@Rhiaanon
@Rhiaanon 2 года назад
Henry was a psychopath from childhood. I truly believe once his family moved to Indiana his powers manifested. It’s something about that town…it’s like the Bermuda Triangle of the Midwest!
@radagast7200
@radagast7200 2 года назад
It's Dunwich.
@sashayy1232
@sashayy1232 2 года назад
true that!
@that-hoeacrossthestreet4772
@that-hoeacrossthestreet4772 2 года назад
Yes!! Eduardo Franco who plays argyle said it had something to do with the town
@rjofusetsudzin8011
@rjofusetsudzin8011 2 года назад
Before reveal people speculated that Henry got powers because something happened in the house. I still believe
@pi.log10
@pi.log10 2 года назад
@@that-hoeacrossthestreet4772 Henry got his powers from the Grand father clock, how and why, season -5.
@free2trvl
@free2trvl 2 года назад
I absolutely think that 11 was born with her powers as well, that's why Brenner put so much more energy into those two, because they were the two naturally born with them.
@InfamousAWJ
@InfamousAWJ 2 года назад
How was she born with her powers? She’s literally got them from Brenners experiments with psychedelics while she was an embryo like the rest of the kids. The reason why Brenner focused on her was because she was the closest to 001 in terms of power.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Yes, thanks to Dr.Brenner.
@Avienne557
@Avienne557 2 года назад
@@InfamousAWJ the things is 11's mother also had a degree of psychic powers that developed, seeing as how she was able to lead 11 toward her with the lights, so a logical jump would be that 11 had those powers dormant as well
@annabeth1122
@annabeth1122 2 года назад
I think 1 is 11’s dad and is why she is stronger than the rest of them
@jonnapolling5096
@jonnapolling5096 2 года назад
you literally see in the show that during eleven's mother was pregnant Brenners experienced with her. you can see her wired up on machines. when eleven was born, her mother was unconcious and Brenner told the mother she had a miscarriage, but he took eleven away right after she was born and she was born with the powers
@wonderwander8932
@wonderwander8932 2 года назад
That kid who played as Henry really acted out a whole entire story without even talking that is true talent
@Dgoatinnit
@Dgoatinnit Месяц назад
Copied comment, stfu goofy unoriginal ass
@philiponeill6903
@philiponeill6903 Год назад
"No, Eleven. I am your father..." I'm waiting for this moment in Season 5. The ages line up, and it would explain why Henry took a special interest in Eleven right from the start.
@TheOcculticUnicorn
@TheOcculticUnicorn Год назад
I would love that. All the other kids got powers using his blood, but 11 got powers because Henry/Vecna is her bio dad.
@javmar86
@javmar86 Год назад
@@TheOcculticUnicorn Another intersting thing: eleven es 11, she could have been any number, but 11 has 1 to times in it. It´s like double 1, double the power
@kelss3630
@kelss3630 Год назад
Yes. Plus her mom was a mk ultra test subject in the lab the same time Henry was there. Which also explains why Dr Brenner took 11 directly from birth, because he knew she would have powers from birth. How would he know that? Maybe because he knew who the parents were, and they both had powers...
@puresuga219
@puresuga219 Год назад
I was thinking it!
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
Eleven's father is actually named Andrew.
@Wanderingcog97
@Wanderingcog97 2 года назад
An important detail I saw someone else point out, is that when Henry first uses his powers as a kid, when the subtitles are on, it shows “Eldritch power humming”. Anything of an ‘eldritch’ origin is often a sinister, dark entity from a long time ago. So I think it’s interesting that this caption comes up whenever he uses his powers. It’s almost an indication that perhaps he’s channeling something ancient
@treemuger1
@treemuger1 Год назад
Turns out to be the source of Pennywise's power.
@msgeen
@msgeen 2 года назад
My theory is that all the lab kids with powers including Eleven were genetically modified during their embryonic stage using Henry's DNA. Basically Eleven is Henry's descendant if this theory is right.
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
Yes it is. That is what the project MKultra does actually. They round up pregnant women and do test on them introducing Henry’s DNA to the fetus. That’s how eleven got her powers and that’s how her mother has some sort of powers cause she gave birth to her so the blood connection. Henry and Eleven shares a sort of kinship so does the other kids but Henry developed an affection towards El cause she was bullied and isolated all the time etc so he did see a similarity between them and he wanted to have El by his side. That was pretty much told in the series.
@InfamousAWJ
@InfamousAWJ 2 года назад
Bro that’s literally the plot
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
I agree with you.
@shawny2scrawny
@shawny2scrawny 2 года назад
@@InfamousAWJ Lol ikr
@chrissymeri4957
@chrissymeri4957 2 года назад
I could honestly be on board with this theory it makes the most sense to me.
@ironicly__iconic
@ironicly__iconic 2 года назад
There was something going on with him before they moved, it says that they moved to Hawkins for a fresh start from whatever he had done before then.
@wishonfallingstars
@wishonfallingstars 2 года назад
*I am certain there is a connection between Will and Vecna/Henry.* Even in this video, it was explained that Henry was *not* aware of his powers in the beginning, and was a introverted person that liked to draw, but also, his father had described him as a sensitive child. I am sure you can see what I am trying to point out here - Doesn’t all of this sound just like Will Byers? Maybe, Will is also not aware of his powers and they haven’t been awakened yet. Maybe, Vecna sees Will as a potential ally, and if not, a potential rival. This - Will having similar powers to Vecna - would answer so many questions. And seeing that the Duffer brothers planned all 5 seasons beforehand, there is a big chance that our theories are right and Will was not chosen randomly in season 1. That there was a reason he was kidnapped, a reason that the Upside Down is stuck on the day he disappeared and most importantly, a reason why he wasn’t killed like the other victims of season 1. Just think about it for a second, why was Will Byers not killed when dragged into the UD, when everybody else was? I would say, it was either because it was strictly ordered by Vecna, that Will shall not be killed yet - the potential ally theory - (as for example seen in season 2, where the mind flayer wanted to kill everybody but Will), or because they simply couldn’t. Because they realized Will is strong, maybe even as strong as Vecna - who’s pretty much their boss - himself? I feel like that would make a lot of sense! So yes, I believe and hope Will is gonna be the key to killing Vecna, and will finally get the role he deserves in stranger things season 5!
@vincenzo7394
@vincenzo7394 2 года назад
This is such a dope possibility. I hope this is the case because how is Will not gonna play a major role in the final season when he was the start of the whole show.
@starioushina901
@starioushina901 2 года назад
Love this! Spot on analysis!
@Soluna129
@Soluna129 2 года назад
I said the same thing. Especially since Will can "feel" Vecna.
@lisamorrison2149
@lisamorrison2149 2 года назад
Awesome theory. I concur.
@pthibault630
@pthibault630 2 года назад
They didn't plan all 5 seasons beforehand. In fact, the first season was originally only going to be a one-off season and the second season was going to be a new story with new characters. An anthology type series similar to AHS. If it turns out that "Will was chosen for a reason from the very beginning" it will be in the form of a retcon.
@SnowWhiteTheU2
@SnowWhiteTheU2 2 года назад
I just realized that Kali has the mental/hallucinations part of Henry/Vecna’s powers, and 11 has the physical/telekinesis part of his powers ! 😮 Maybe she will return and tie into the story/explain why she was gone before the Massacre of Hawkins Laboratory. I don’t think Terri/11’s mom had powers btw.
@duanescott7484
@duanescott7484 2 года назад
She can mind invade too. She invaded max mind from the desert to help her with vecna
@DaveRicher705
@DaveRicher705 2 года назад
We don’t need a useless character to come back in a season where there are already a million things to resolve ffs. Please collective audience that refuses to acknowledge that plot line was useless and focus on the things that matter lol b
@InfamousAWJ
@InfamousAWJ 2 года назад
@@DaveRicher705 Facts. Also what good is 008? She has no offensive powers.
@darien3863
@darien3863 2 года назад
@@DaveRicher705 relax it's really not that deep lol
@chrissymeri4957
@chrissymeri4957 2 года назад
@@DaveRicher705 why is it pointless? That would mean all of season 2 is also pointless. El meeting Kali is the whole season. And I don't think it's pointless. There are still questions left unanswered so having her come back would be a chance to understand more of the story.
@duanescott7484
@duanescott7484 2 года назад
El and 1 were born with their powers. That's why they are different. She can mind evade as well. Henry had a lot of time to practice and train his power... El needs that same time dedicated. Henry is also using the upside energy as well so that's a huge boost
@theejadaamarie
@theejadaamarie 2 года назад
and also, when henry/vecna/one kills he not only kills them but consumes everything they had and will be. so i’m guessing vecna is really powerful because when he killed all the kids in the “hawkins massacre” he also consumed their power making him stronger, then his time in the upside down it all makes sense why he’s so powerful
@Dohnr
@Dohnr 2 года назад
How were they born with powers though?
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Henry Creel was born with powers. Eleven was born with powers through genetic experimentation of Jane's Mother by Dr.Brenner injecting the blood of Henry Creel-001 into Jane Mother's body.
@MinaTee0
@MinaTee0 2 года назад
@@Dohnr this might be explained in season 5 or maybe just left to imagination.
@hectoriul6135
@hectoriul6135 2 года назад
@@Dohnr they are probably connected to the upside down, if henry was able to break it easily its possible they obtained power from it
@LiveFreeOrDie2A
@LiveFreeOrDie2A 2 года назад
In Season 4 Volume 1 they said something about Max entering a back door into Vecna’s mind.. in Season 4 Volume 2 it is revealed that 001 found the upside down and the creatures inhabiting it in a “neutral state” more or less and he then became the puppet master of the hive-mind he created.. this leads me to believe El could use this same back door into Venca’s mind and become the puppet master of the hive-mind herself?
@Sanaiyacarlton
@Sanaiyacarlton 2 года назад
His mom was brenners first experiment. Remember when his mom knew he was the cause of all the weird stuff happening. Then on top of that when he killed the family he passed out and was already taken in by brenner.
@jimbobeire
@jimbobeire Год назад
Yes, the clues are there. he said when he woke up from the coma he found he was with the doctor he'd already been trying to get away from. Brenner wasn't Virginia's doctor by chance, MK Ultra was already underway in the 50's. Like El's mother, she was probably lied to about what the program was... and the kids powers came from whatever was done to the mother before and during pregnancy.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
No it's not. And we do not have the further backstory about Henry Creel's mother. The backstory starts with the Creel family moving into the Victorian Mansion in the late 1950's.
@ryandonnelly8305
@ryandonnelly8305 2 года назад
Henry says at the end of volume 1 that he was back in the care of the doctor he'd hoped to have escaped from, which was doctor Brenner. This means before that meeting, Henry had had previous meetings with Brenner. Possibly before even moving to hawkins.
@jennyblue42
@jennyblue42 2 года назад
I thought that was referring to how his mom wanted to send him to Dr. Brenner when she was still alive But we can't know 🤷🏼‍♀️ Could be right
@Sigel110
@Sigel110 2 года назад
He is referencing the fact that his mom wanted to send him to a doctor, not that he had previously been under the care of Dr. Brenner.
@ryandonnelly8305
@ryandonnelly8305 2 года назад
@@jennyblue42 oh I'm not too sure. Thought he meant he had already met with brenner
@AlexFarleyMusic
@AlexFarleyMusic 2 года назад
@@ryandonnelly8305 No, he said it was the doctor his mom wanted him to see.
@evanpeartree
@evanpeartree 2 года назад
He meant he’s been trying to escape from him since.
@lukehunter2362
@lukehunter2362 2 года назад
His telepathy when he was turning the grand father clock is a clue to possible time travel abilities that might be needed in s5 to defeat Vecna, I.e. reversing time to before 11 freed Henry. Then everything that happened in Stranger Things would be lost in the timeline and it cuts to the kids playing D&D in s1
@joshuasantana8207
@joshuasantana8207 2 года назад
I’m worried this is actually gonna happen and they are gonna go with time travel for next season 😪
@lukehunter2362
@lukehunter2362 2 года назад
@@joshuasantana8207 Another theory based of a Reddit user who is a D&D expert and the Community Manager at Wizards of the Coast, the owners of D&D for a while mentioned that the writers of the show have done a great job at mimicking the version of Vecna created in the board game. Vecna in the board game was a Lich-King who was a wizard who sought immortality by turning himself into an undead creature. He is the evil god of secrets and can see those in everybody in the real realm. Also, he is known as a deal maker, and it can very possibly mean he made a deal with the mindflayer. The issue is if the writers follow this description than Vecna also has a Phylactery, also called a Horcrux. This is something that binds Vecna to the real world. It is either the clock or Will but either way it must be destroyed to defeat Vecna.
@obsessivefanboy7
@obsessivefanboy7 2 года назад
Hope not time travel is such a cop out
@antonionevianicarvalho7911
@antonionevianicarvalho7911 2 года назад
I think that’s gonna happen too
@antonionevianicarvalho7911
@antonionevianicarvalho7911 2 года назад
I also think that’s gonna happen next season
@CarlosHuiskens
@CarlosHuiskens 2 года назад
You completely forgot that Kali was born with powers as well. There would be no other reason why she was abducted as a 5 year old all the way in London. I don't think that Henry is the only character that was naturally born with powers without some prior intervention. We know that Eleven's mom took part in experments but Henry and Kali seem to be naturally born with powers.
@morgankeegan7880
@morgankeegan7880 2 года назад
Exactly people keep forgetting that. Idk why the internet collectively decided to hate her, but I would personally love to see her return and have their natural born abilities explored
@dphilly179
@dphilly179 2 года назад
@@morgankeegan7880 because her episode in the 2nd season was easily one of the worst in the entire series and damn near stopped the momentum of the season.
@alfie6441
@alfie6441 2 года назад
@@morgankeegan7880 people forget because the writers forgot. it doesn’t matter anymore.
@yoshaku10
@yoshaku10 2 года назад
Im also thinking Kali will comeback in Season 5. Eleven cant fight Vecna alone and the Rift to the Upside Down is Open now so many Monsters will come and attack them. What also a lot of People didnt realise is that she also uses Spiders (like Vecna) to fear his Friend when he grabbed Eleven in Season 2. So They for sure have something in commun (they also look like they are in the same Age). Maybe there was another Group before Eleven came so that 001 killed all and thats the reason why he got a Chip to refuse his Power…
@morgankeegan7880
@morgankeegan7880 2 года назад
@@dphilly179 Thats your opinion lol, personally I loved it and the development it gave to Eleven's character
@faithrey4757
@faithrey4757 2 года назад
the way he killed his mother i think it came from her side of the family the mother always knew it was Henry and the money i think it also came from her family...they had the power and the money follows is my thinking may be wrong
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Henry killed his Mother because his mother and father will take him to Dr. Brenner who was a psychiatrist at the time and be put into a mental health hospital.
@gaetanadixon333
@gaetanadixon333 2 года назад
I thought that too especially since we don’t know anything about her. They could be waiting to tell us
@JanXD91
@JanXD91 2 года назад
I thought the same thing. She seemed to know that there was something wrong with Henry and knew to go to Brenner for help
@pi.log10
@pi.log10 2 года назад
@@JanXD91 Henry got his powers from Grandfather Clock, how and why, Season - 5.
@esalanen198
@esalanen198 2 года назад
ever heard of using punctuation?
@Jorora
@Jorora 2 года назад
I don’t think he was born with his powers at all. It was suspicious how the doctor was there to pick up Henry almost immediately after the death of his parents. How could any doctor have been able to know what happened exactly that quickly and immediately begin work? They had to fake his death and do other things while he was in a coma almost as if they had prior planning and funding for such an occurrence. I believe what happened was they were testing a series of drugs on the mothers and were waiting for one of them to work and Henry’s variant of said drug was probably the one that showed promise and thus they brought him in as the first subject. Henry’s mom also knew there was something wrong with him and we never got to see what Henry’s mother sin was but he knew and he killed her first. She probably agreed to the program and later regretted it after she saw what he was becoming. This would better explain her desire to get rid of him and how the doctor immediately got funding and lied about Henry’s whereabouts after he woke up. The doctor also had no way of knowing what Henry did or what would make Henry special out of thousands of kids whose parents die in similar disasters especially on some random town. Henry was the strongest due to his age. Eleven was weak until he gave her tips and hints as to how to obtain power. It was implied that he was simply teaching her how to harness power. 2 was the second strongest which implied that the kids were stronger based on experience and age rather than just being born more powerful. This became more evident when the weak and inexperienced eleven was suddenly able to be strong after getting a tip on how to gain power which was through emotions. No kid was as strong as 2 until Eleven was given a hint as to how to become strong. Eleven also had brief moments of weakness when fighting Vecna when she felt afraid but whenever she felt angry she would overpower Vecna which adds on to the theory that emotions and specifically emotions of anger or willpower tend to add power. Vecna in theory should be much stronger due to years of absorbing souls but still randomly gets beaten by Eleven when she’s angry and wants to protect someone. Similar as to how she banished him to the upside down after she saw him murder all of her siblings .
@Sanaiyacarlton
@Sanaiyacarlton 2 года назад
Agreeed
@Maria-em4oz
@Maria-em4oz 2 года назад
@@Sanaiyacarlton OMG this is so well written. I'm leaving a comment here so whenever anyone interacts I'll get notified lol
@dulcepulido1035
@dulcepulido1035 2 года назад
Interesting comment
@Jorora
@Jorora 2 года назад
@@Maria-em4oz You know... now that I'm thinking about it. I'll have to rewatch but there were some other psychic kids that Eleven met but apparently all the kids in the lab had died because there wasn't an exit. Which would lend better to the idea that they were working on different drugs that can give powers and maybe some of those trials had later results or not the results they wanted. I don't remember but either way it works because they never explicitly show the audience that they extracted blood or samples from Henry in order to make psychics. I still believe they require a mother for some part of the process because otherwise.. why not just take in orphaned kids? Why kidnap kids from their parents like Eleven? There are just a lot of issues with the idea that they just used Henry to produce more psychics. I'm almost sure they were testing a series of drugs and it requires a mother.
@jimbobeire
@jimbobeire Год назад
You're right about Henry showing her to tap emotions, but the edge she has over him, is that he can only tap anger, whereas she can also tap into love and positive things to live and strive for.
@andrewnatalizio6067
@andrewnatalizio6067 2 года назад
"He is number one. And there's a reason for that. Because he is the first" Groundbreaking content here, bud.
@SteezyB.
@SteezyB. 2 года назад
I was literally scrolling the comments to see if anyone was going to say anything about this bullshit clickbait haha. Dude literally said nothing about *HOW* henry got his powers and just said he got them from birth… like really dawg? That’s the best you could give me?
@andrewnatalizio6067
@andrewnatalizio6067 2 года назад
@@SteezyB. Bro LMFAO I literally told RU-vid to stop promoting this guy's videos into my feed solely because of this. Total clickbait hack.
@pi.log10
@pi.log10 2 года назад
​@@SteezyB. Henry got his powers from Grandfather Clock, how and why, Season - 5.
@johnpettigrew9971
@johnpettigrew9971 2 года назад
@@pi.log10 Cause Brenner is the grand father of it all, Papa for a reason
@SteezyB.
@SteezyB. 2 года назад
@@pi.log10 idk I always looked at the clock as what Henry used to center himself and focus his powers. Like how El uses white noise and a blindfold to focus herself and enter the void. It’s a tool for their powers but not the source of them. My 2 cents anyways.
@jeannieGrey
@jeannieGrey 2 года назад
There are points of convergence or ley lines within the world that increase psychic phenomenon. Hawkins is such a place, other dimensions are merely next door, and to those more sensitive they can tap into it. Henry, El and Will are sensitive enough to read into one of those dimensions which is the Upside Down. The reason El is more powerful is she has more emotional range than Henry because she is not a psychopath, so she can tap not only into her rage but her deep and selfless ability to love others.
@roxystarlite4106
@roxystarlite4106 2 года назад
God I love D&D! You worded that perfectly
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
There is another door opened from the Upside Down. But in small parts in Kamchatka ,Russia.
@eleanor8633
@eleanor8633 2 года назад
There was a theory somewhere that said Henry’s mother inherited the house from her uncle - that’s fact. Online it says that his mother was born in 1923. The last person who went missing before Will Byers was in 1923. Potentially sus?
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
But there is no solid evidence that Henry Creel born with powers in his Victorian home.
@XvlerLorenzo
@XvlerLorenzo 2 года назад
I think Hopper said in S1 that the latest person to go missing before Will was in summer 1961. I might be wrong. But still a good theory
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@XvlerLorenzo .. That will be the day when something happened in the Creel Family home.
@XvlerLorenzo
@XvlerLorenzo 2 года назад
@Fea†her that means the 1961 disappearance Hopper talked about had nothing to do with the Creels
@Gallinova7
@Gallinova7 2 года назад
I would love to see something more of his early childhood, before shit hit the van for him emotionally. Billy had a happy memory Eleven saw, I hope she can invade Vecna’s conscious and find a happy memory of his as well. I’m also curious to the missing person in 1923 and if it’s significant to the story. Small chance but perhaps El will locate 008 and asks for help to defeat Vecna once and for all.
@jimbobeire
@jimbobeire Год назад
I also wonder if there's a link between the missing person and the fact that Virginia Creel was born that same year.
@bestkept1135
@bestkept1135 2 года назад
My question are: 1. How was the upside down shaped like Hawkins. When Henry first got there, there was just valleys and rocks. 2. Since Vecna is still a human in evolved form, what does he eat there? it does he still eat or drink?
@josephserenson166
@josephserenson166 2 года назад
they will explain that in season 5 about how it looks like Hawkins. they said they have twists for season 5 that they came up with while doing season 1. or leave it for a spinoff show lol
@bestkept1135
@bestkept1135 2 года назад
@@josephserenson166 yeah hopefully we get answers. Season 5 is a looong way.
@InnerHarmony.365
@InnerHarmony.365 2 года назад
Vecna literally shaped the mindflayer into a spider form so there’s no doubt to me that he shaped upside down to be like Hawkins and the fact that he emphasize a specific date/dates every time which is actually the date when his victims go through sth that’ll cause them to be guilty for the rest of their lives, for example, when will went missing in the season 1, joyce painted that whole alphabet on the wall after he went missing thinking that it’ll work and it turned out to be actually working and could communicate through those light bulbs she hung on each letter of the alphabet when will was stuck in upside down , and when Nancy and the babysitters (lmao) went to upside down and when they were in. Nancy’s room in upside down, the last date when Nancy wrote the diary was the day barb went missing just proves my point that vecna can manipulate upside down to whatever form of the Hawkins he wants . And for what he eats, idk he prolly eats demogorgan eggs 😂 or he goes to grocery stores in upside down and eat whatever the stores sell in Hawkins of our side of the dimension by manipulating upside down 😅 Lmao so many typos and grammer mistakes. Ignore them 😭
@tison7208
@tison7208 2 года назад
its frozen in time to when Will got stuck in the upside down... but what was it before then if 001 was already there? and how did it transform.. i thought this too
@InnerHarmony.365
@InnerHarmony.365 2 года назад
@@tison7208 check out my reply
@miad5392
@miad5392 2 года назад
Victor said his family had a month of peace in that house before things went wrong...what took Henry a month to start hurting his family?
@francoisdaureville323
@francoisdaureville323 Год назад
Obviusly him discovering his powers i imagine he doditn discover them, as they get but it took time
@Historyglobal1220
@Historyglobal1220 2 года назад
WILL will be able to use powers thanks to Henry. They’re both described the same by parents “ strange , drawing”. Will is always the wizard in the DnD group and he throws fire balls. As mentioned in epi 1 S1 And other epis. And the painting that he gave mike shows him again as a wizard throwing /prepping a power ball to throw at enemy ! Wil Byers will be the fire ball wizard season 5 saving. Everyone
@DaveRicher705
@DaveRicher705 2 года назад
We cannot even get will to resolve his sexual preferences in 4 seasons. This may be a slight reach.
@radagast7200
@radagast7200 2 года назад
There were two twin girls that escaped the lab before One destroyed it. 009 and 009.5. They have fire powers and there were a few hints in S4 that they plan to introduce them. Also 11+9=20.
@radagast7200
@radagast7200 2 года назад
@@DaveRicher705 I think his sexual preferences have been a red herring and what were actually seeing is guilt. I think he got a sort of Stockholm syndrome when he was possessed and has been spying on 11 for him, freely. But he is torn between this addiction to the collective and his loyalty to his friends.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@radagast7200 ... There is no solid evidence that 009 and 009.5. escape from the lab. So, for its Kali-008. We just have found out season five. And Kali-008 may be in it.
@radagast7200
@radagast7200 2 года назад
@@jacobtennyson9213 the comic series that introduced them have them break out of the lab and they're still out when Henry's attack happens.
@tommysmith7031
@tommysmith7031 2 года назад
It seems that Will and Henry have a connection. Why was Will the first victim? I wonder if they were related in some way.
@chrissymeri4957
@chrissymeri4957 2 года назад
Right? That has been something that's bothered me too since the very beginning. Why will? Was it random? Or was it part of a plan.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Will became the victim due the Mind Flayer wanted to know about the Right Side Up Earth before it plans to invade.
@fg4462
@fg4462 2 года назад
ALSO....How the upside-down paused after Will was taken there 👀. Gotta mean something. Time standing still for 3 years, stopping the day will got there
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@fg4462 .... Because Venca has the power to control time.
@alexandersahatci5430
@alexandersahatci5430 2 года назад
@@jacobtennyson9213 Possible, but tbf i don‘t think so. I think the clock is more a symbol of "your time has come" rather than that he can control time.
@swingking83
@swingking83 2 года назад
Theory….. Henry is 11’s father. Her mother took part in the experiment and that’s where she met Henry. They had a love affair which 11 came from. It’s why The doc wanted 11 and pushed her. He probably figured any child from Henry would have his powers. It’s why Henry talked to 11 and treated her different. He somehow figured out it was his daughter. Remember he said he wanted her to rule by his side. Why would he says this or think this about some random child. Or 11’s mother had some natural ability and the experiment enhanced it a little more and when she had 11 the doc figured it would be past to her. And Henry and the mother were friends and he discovered 11 was the only one born with the natural gifts like himself and he felt he needed to protect her and guide her down his same path.
@sophiamorgan4416
@sophiamorgan4416 2 года назад
I agree with this! I feel like there could've been multiple ways Terry got pregnant though. The love affair is plausible, but Brenner could've used a form of artificial insemination or IVF while she was undergoing the experiments and under the influence of something, hence why she never knew she was pregnant and no one ever mentioned a potential father, not even her aunt Becky. I'm sure he wanted to know what a biological child of Henry's would be capable of. 1, and 11. He also seemed to favor her in the lab and when she refused to join him he had a hard time killing her while he could snap everyone else's bones in seconds. I felt similar about him in Vol. 2 even as Vecna. Just seemed like he was reluctant to kill her, he was stalling despite all the opportunities he had to take her supercharged powers for himself. There's definitely still an emotional connection there and I hope they'll explore that in season 5!
@KasLynAudio
@KasLynAudio 2 года назад
I think it was through insemination not a love affair but I do think he’s the biological father of 11
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Technically no, It's was through Dr.Brenner's Project to inject Eleven's mother with the blood of Henry Creel-001 and beget Jane-001.
@piyalichhajed6009
@piyalichhajed6009 2 года назад
eleven wasnt some random child. she was powerful. powerful than all the in the lab. she was also out of place. henry maybe related with her and felt that she would too want to walk in his footsteps of trying to bring back the world in its natural form. the most obvious reason is that shes powerful so she could help him in his plans, but henry is a psycopath. eleven is not. he chose her out of other children because everybody loved papa. he revealed to her the lies of brenner so that she could free him. also, she freed him. he told her to rule by his side after he killed everybody (not a random child). maybe he thought she would go along with it. ofc this is just my theory. excited for season 5
@Iluv_Ti
@Iluv_Ti 2 года назад
This theory is already proven to be false just look up elevens fathers name
@stormzo6235
@stormzo6235 2 года назад
"he was number one because he was the first" 10/10 scripting right there
@crowevil4658
@crowevil4658 2 года назад
The show has major love for the 80s - that means love conquers all. No, eleven is not more powerful, however, she gains the edge and levels up through love. Love for her mother and anger at her mother’s pain. Her love for her BF and friends and the pain of them potentially dying. That give her power a super charge. Prepare for a corny victory in Season 5.
@SFO14
@SFO14 2 года назад
Mike is the heart. Heart was a popular band in the 80’s. Prepare for a montage featuring “Alone” in the finale.
@larswm5197
@larswm5197 2 года назад
@@SFO14 Thats a smart prediction
@sarahb4745
@sarahb4745 4 месяца назад
Uhm im pretty sure someone's gonna die
@glist_gloom
@glist_gloom 2 года назад
They said that the family moved to the house for a fresh start, however, the problems started again. I assume that Henry showed his powers before they moved to that house. He became more powerful at the house, though. Maybe because it was in Hawkins, which has the upside down under it already.
@ryandonnelly8305
@ryandonnelly8305 2 года назад
The upside down wasn't under hawkins when the creel family moved there
@sauceboss9797
@sauceboss9797 2 года назад
@@ryandonnelly8305 just because there was no portal doesn't mean that it wasn't there
@ryandonnelly8305
@ryandonnelly8305 2 года назад
@@sauceboss9797 actually yeah you're right because there was already monsters in the upside down when Henry got there
@gg-ud5er
@gg-ud5er 2 года назад
The upside down is the creation of vecna. There was just wasteland when henry was banished. Henry used his power to create the exact copy of Hawkins knowing that this place related to hawkins more than anything else
@gabrielborjas7923
@gabrielborjas7923 2 года назад
@@gg-ud5er henry didn't create the copy of Hawkins in the upside down though. The show suggests it was made when Eleven created the first portal in 1983 (remember Nancy's flash cards and diary from the first season)
@SupaTuffGong
@SupaTuffGong 2 года назад
The idea behind telekinesis, psychokinesis, telepathy is that they would be naturally occurring. You would just somehow come to a point in your life where you accidentally use them, in order to discover that they're there. He was born with the powers by chance. I don't believe they should try to explain something like this beyond that.
@pi.log10
@pi.log10 2 года назад
Henry got his powers from Grandfather Clock, how and why, Season - 5.
@joker-sh5hv
@joker-sh5hv 2 года назад
For me the biggest thing to notice is that “his mother some how knew it was his fault” This makes me think his mother had some level of powers (like elevens mom) or she was in an early cia mk ultra like program
@johng6950
@johng6950 2 года назад
This doesn't explain how he got his powers though.... It's more of a summary of how he developed them.
@II.am.Gold.
@II.am.Gold. 2 года назад
Dr. Brenner was Obsessed with Henry which is why he created a whole program to try to Replicate the powers henry has. Once El casted him into the upside down. She then was the only second most powerful which is was he used her to constantly look for henry after. Dr Brenner knew 001 didnt die. So he pit 001 and 011 against eachother. Dr brenner was a mad scientist. Took advantage of henry and used El. I cant wait to get the back story on #8 as to why she left and if her and 001 had any connection at all
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
Basically yeah I mean they all were some sort of descendants from Henry so 8 definitely was a creation of Henry’s DNA too. Henry probably helped/manipulated 008 to escape too just like he did with 011. Can’t be a coincidence why henry mentioned 008 to eleven at some point in episode 7
@zkid001
@zkid001 2 года назад
How did dr brenner know that henry had powers though when everyone else thought Kreel did this to his family
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
@Jackie S yeah it was somewhere around E7 I guess. When Henry mentioned about the woman who came to see eleven when she was young and that’s your mother dialogue between them.
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
@@zkid001 he was a scientist. A mad one. He was probably researching about people with special powers telekinesis, telepathy and stuff. He was already a head in a laboratory which was a department of energy right. So he was probably in touch with any story that come up in Hawkins some supernatural sort of stuff especially demons. Cause people tend to label it “demon” for anything that they don’t understand. Maybe that’s how Brenner knew about Henry. Or……..they’ll revisit the history once in S5 to understand how to beat vecna by understanding how his powers came since we already know how El got hers, and will know for sure 😄
@jruss9851
@jruss9851 2 года назад
"It was his hat Mr. Krabs. He was number 1!" How has no one made that joke yet, lmao
@JuanCheesy
@JuanCheesy Год назад
Let’s connect the clues here 1. El’s mom was one of Dr Brenner’s experiments 2. Hopper was exposed to Agent O while in military 3. His daughter gets a terminal illness, but was said to be “incredibly intelligent” 4. Henry’s mom already suspected Henry of having powers, and hinted at sending him away (to Dr Brenner 5. Henry’s dad was also in the military. 6. Will has a connection to the upside down Conclusion: Dr Brenner experimented on pregnant women who were wives of military personnel, who were exposed to agent o. This explains how all the test subjects got their powers. This was hinted by the story Hopper told the Russian about his daughter(He was also exposed to agent o). Will has powers and in season 5 it will all come to light as he and 11 will be the heroes. 💪
@Sebulon23
@Sebulon23 Год назад
I think not. Victor Creel fought in WW2, agent orange wasn't used until Vietnam war.
@lemon4087
@lemon4087 Год назад
will's father was in military?
@irenecaptain5832
@irenecaptain5832 Год назад
Didn't they show in ST4 (during Nancy's vision) that the test subjects got their powers thanks to Henry's blood? Brenner used it on pregnant women to give the kids 001's powers.
@JuanCheesy
@JuanCheesy Год назад
@@lemon4087 no
@JuanCheesy
@JuanCheesy Год назад
@@Sebulon23 I’m talking about after Henry .
@artsyyanaa
@artsyyanaa 2 года назад
I’ve been seeing a lot of time travel theories and I think I have a theory of my own. So in episode 7 or 8 when vecna was explaining to Nancy what happened to him and why he is how he is now and what he plans to do in the Future, in one scene he was standing in front of the grandfather clock and was moving the hands on the clock with his mind. Some people are thinking that this time jump that is supposed to happen in season 5 is going into the future but what if they go back in the past? In season 3 El used her powers to go into Billy’s past to “un-possess” him. Vecna did this same thing in season 4 but he chose traumatic memories to use against his victims; almost like nightmares. What if El could go back before the creel family moved into their house in hawkins? She could do the same thing she did to billy with vecna but I’m not sure if that would really work. I wondering how they will make her stronger than him because she has used everything but he still has the upper hand. I think her killing him will kill her because she has to become more powerful than she’s ever been and because there is such little time for her to learn how to control her powers, I don’t think she is going to survive.
@shrikepsd
@shrikepsd 2 года назад
I think using the word time travel for bringing up the past is not accurate because if someone time travels they really travel there to the past and not travel there in the past but In your mind
@sumireravenclaw8034
@sumireravenclaw8034 2 года назад
@@shrikepsd I mean we already know Henry ACTUALLY traveled back in time. It's how he was able to kill all of those animals in front of there house.
@Anonymous_-nl4er
@Anonymous_-nl4er 2 года назад
And if she is a descendant of Henry she is going to destroy herself.
@johng6950
@johng6950 2 года назад
@@sumireravenclaw8034 what are you talking about? He did that in real time as a child....
@theyincorporated5711
@theyincorporated5711 2 года назад
It’s strange to me that 1 claims to basically steal the abilities of other and up until the Hawkins lab kills at least like 25-35 people (not including the animals he practiced on). Yet 11 beat him as a child. Now on top of 1’s years in the upside down plus the kills in all season four season being fed into him because of the hive mind and yet again 11 was able to contend with him and eventually beat him (or hold him down if you prefer) in the void. 11 is at 1’s level or at least has more potential to grow at like 1/2 the age, and all that with a fraction of the body count
@olofacosta3192
@olofacosta3192 2 года назад
I think it's because One can only draw his powers from negative energy while Eleven can draw from all of her emotions. Vecna also defeated eleven pretty easily and once was only beaten due to getting caught off guard and being attacked from multiple places(remember any damage the Demogorgons feel so does he)
@theyincorporated5711
@theyincorporated5711 2 года назад
@@olofacosta3192 maybe but how do you explain his loss against 11 in the Hawkins lab?
@olofacosta3192
@olofacosta3192 2 года назад
@@theyincorporated5711 probably the first point. When El tried to use her anger and negative feelings against Henry he completely overpowered her. But when she used her more positive ones that was when she defeated him. Max says it aswell that he only sees the negativity in humans so most likely any sort of positive responses can counter vecna to some capacity
@tison7208
@tison7208 2 года назад
@@theyincorporated5711 good triumphs evil
@xSchockZz
@xSchockZz 2 года назад
I think thats because shes the main character of the show :). I Also thin that 1 must be pretty weakend after killing and fighting so many people in the lab, and Vecna was attacked from multiple sources.
@isaacdavenport765
@isaacdavenport765 Год назад
Henry's dad was military and fought in ww2, and Brenner just magically knew that Henry had abilities and Victor didn't kill his family... I'm willing to bet Victor was in some sort of program during his military years and passed something on to Henry
@jimbobeire
@jimbobeire Год назад
I think it's Virginia that was in a program with Brenner. The guy who made this video says she wasn't, but that doesn't add up. how else would she have known Brenner? Henry / Vecna says that he had already been trying to escape Brenner prior to killing his mother, but then woke from his coma to find himself in Brenner's control. That might also be the 'terrible thing' that Henry held against his mother, which he never shows us. We did get to see what the 'terrible thing' was in Victor's case, but not for Virginia.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
Henry was born with his powers. The best we can do is find out in season five.
@sarahb4745
@sarahb4745 4 месяца назад
They did mk ultra on soldiers too. But im sure his mom has something to do with it
@justintlme8763
@justintlme8763 2 года назад
I’m always confused when I watch certain videos, like, did he even watch the show? Henry had the powers before they moved. That’s one of the reasons THEY MOVED. It said IN THE SHOW that they moved because his mother knew something was wrong and she was already seeking helping from Brenner… Yes, the money played a part, but it probably came from Brenner (through the mother) so they could work with Henry.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
That is correct. You have watched the flashback of Vecna's Origins.
@marvin2678
@marvin2678 2 года назад
yes, the videos feel very rushed often
@dr.wolfstar1765
@dr.wolfstar1765 2 года назад
It was Vecna all along. Or someone should make a "it was Henry all along" song
@juyx9720
@juyx9720 2 года назад
How Henry got his powers: He was born with them I think? *video ends*
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
There is a possibility that some micro portals from the Upside Down bringing out the essence of the Shadow Creature to the parents. Once Herny was born, he has powers.
@CormacTunstead
@CormacTunstead 2 года назад
I have one theory how Henry / Vecna / 001 got his powers, tho it may sound a lil silly... is from a spider bite like spider man kind of vibe but the spider being from the upside down with the ability to travel between the 2 realms.
@puny5417
@puny5417 2 года назад
Cool theory dude!!!
@CormacTunstead
@CormacTunstead 2 года назад
@@puny5417 thanks mate! I don't 100% stand by that theory but just something that i think is in the realm of possibility for how he obtained his powers.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
No, that is not according to the flashback. Herny get his powers when he was born.
@willifredo
@willifredo Год назад
I like to think that he was bitten by the spiders that lived in the house like a spider man origin story but these spiders were Hawkins spiders and they came from the bowels of Hawkins where the upside has always been. They had some strange venom that initiated his connection to the upside down. A bite is a “vector borne” transmission and from the spider bite Vecna was born in Henry. The mind flare (looks like a spider), when Vecna travels into others minds (he’s almost perched in a web), the vines throughout the upside down sense movement like vibrations in a spiders web. It’s the spiders I tell you! The spiders!
@jimgardner5129
@jimgardner5129 Год назад
Nice.
@tylerwhiteontv
@tylerwhiteontv 2 года назад
I think the upside down is something of an omnipotent force that somehow leaked through and seeped into henry giving him his powers and also inspired his malicious view of the world
@cameronharris9729
@cameronharris9729 Год назад
I still believe the Mind Flayer orchestrated this… think back to the particles found in the Russian prison. They were already alive and they had demogorgans all encased in glass containers (as well as letting the demogorgans kill spies and prisoners for their own fun, they’ve known about these creatures for years) …Much like how henry stores his spiders 🕷 as his powers grow in those flash backs as a kid… foreshadowing the mind flayer (I’ll come back to this after a few critical questions) 1. Where did the Russians get the mind flayer particles 2. How long have Russians had them. 3. Why did this never get answered at all this season? It was never explained or even mentioned once after. Why? Because this season WAS a red herring… a distraction from the plot to keep us looking away… immediately it jumped to another topic taking away our focus from a huge piece of the puzzle. If the Russians have had the particles for years and have known about the demogorgans and them being superior beings, there must have been some event where the mind flayer entered into their dimension and released a piece of itself that spread (possibly across the world). This would also potentially explain the spiders leading back to my original point. Henry much like will always was sensitive and awkward but once the mind flayer entered will he began seeing pictures, strange things started happening, he was being influenced and used etc. Henry began on a fresh start in Hawkins (the place of all these major events years in the future) where he encountered the “spiders” that would change the course of his character, he began developing his powers, and using his abilities etc. he viewed the spiders as apex super predictors or gods… could it be possible that the spiders might have actually been they both began puppets (in a sense) for the mind flayer? As I mentioned he stored the spiders in glass jars, the upside down creatures and the mind flayer particles were also in glass containers in Russia… potentially symbolizing the mind flayer. Then we see Henry drawing photos of the mind flayer and it was inspired by his fascination with spiders”. The spiders could have infected him with particles and he became linked to the upside down. All for a greater plan. Call it destiny or fate. It might have been the mind flayer a plan all along. A cosmic being that consumes dimensions probably has a highly intelligent mind to lead his followers to him
@hamm8934
@hamm8934 2 года назад
I disagree. The Mindflayer communicated with Henry via the spiders and gave him the Mindflayers abilities. Of course this isn’t confirmed, but neither is him being born with them. But if you listen to what 001 says in episode 7, he explains that the spiders taught him how to be a predator and showed him that his true hatred was the construct of time. This doesn’t sound too normal to me. Spiders don’t do that. But you know what does? Mindflayers. Also, for those that know a bit about Vecna’s D&D lore you’ll understand that spiders are a key source of power for Vecna. Further, you’ll know that the Mindflayers in D&D, particularly Ilsensine, operate across space and time and seek out followers. Followers of Mindflayers gain their psychic abilities. Also, Ilsensine in particular is always visualized with an emerald color. What color was the upside down and behind the Mindflayer when Vecna stumbled upon him? A green emerald. In D&D, vecna’s abilities are not psychic. They are of undeath and necromancy, much like in season 3 with the spider he made of out dead bodies. I think the fact that we’ve only seen psychic abilities with Vecna for the most part is a huge sign from the Duffer Brothers that the Mindflayers are behind this. Further it’ll be a nice twist in season 5 when Vecna starts using his actual necromancy abilities out of no where. Also, since Vecna is a lich in D&D, I bet the clock is his phylactery which he will use to time travel and regenerate with in season 5.
@mattreigada3745
@mattreigada3745 2 года назад
The flayer couldn’t have contacted Henry. The ending of season 4 confirmed that the mind flayer was created by Henry when he arrived to the upside down.
@sairamsarivisetty6371
@sairamsarivisetty6371 2 года назад
damn definitely no one would've think about that sounds like a solid theory
@hamm8934
@hamm8934 2 года назад
@@mattreigada3745 I think people have the arrow of causality backwards. I don’t think Henry drawing the spider and shaping the spider out of the cloud of particles is Vecna making the Mindflayer. I think this is a red herring and the arrow of causality goes the other way. The Mindflayers seduced Henry. Heck, Henry even draws the exact same spider picture as Will. I think this is another hint that the Mindflayers are behind this.
@SnehaSharma-py6tz
@SnehaSharma-py6tz 2 года назад
Wow....good point!
@sairamsarivisetty6371
@sairamsarivisetty6371 2 года назад
@@hamm8934 yes yes yes let's say he's been waiting to contact someone to get hold of that had to be Henry finally but el turned out to be the one to open the gate way between two worlds
@speedy3702
@speedy3702 2 года назад
I don't believe Henry got his powers from birth. I found it noticeable how Henry would say to El how his parents did such "awful things". So maybe those things are also related to the origin of his powers, which might be revealed in S5.
@prod_EYES
@prod_EYES 2 года назад
If you'd payed attention you'd know when he said "awful things", he referred to the things that he made them see. E.g: His father ordered the destruction of what he thought was a German hide out, but it wasn't. In fact, there was a baby inside the hide out that set on fire and burnt to death. Henry found that out, held a grudge against his father for that and made him see that.
@speedy3702
@speedy3702 2 года назад
@@prod_EYES Given that Henry is a psychopath and a narcissist, I highly doubt that he would even remotely care about the burning baby. The well being of innocent lives has never been the top of Henry's prioritries, as you can see by what he did at the Lab and what he is doing in Hawkins. Besides, his mother wasn't even involved in that incident. So I am pretty sure that Henry was referring to things that they did against himself, which is the only thing that people like him care about.
@prod_EYES
@prod_EYES 2 года назад
@@speedy3702 his focus wasn't really on WHAT they had done, so ur correct there. It was more general: the fact that had even done bad things to begin with. It never mattered what they were, just as long as they were bad. This was fueled by his hate for humans for some reason
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
Yes, he did.
@gaetanadixon333
@gaetanadixon333 2 года назад
11 got her powers from her mom. All we know about 1’s dad is he was in the military and did messed up things. Hop was also in the military and said he was experimented on and that’s how his daughter got sick and died. Maybe 1’s dad was exposed to something passing it to him. We also don’t know anything about his mom.
@tommyfraz.
@tommyfraz. 2 года назад
Hopper wasn’t “experimented upon.” Hopper worked in the US Army Chemical Corps, mixing “Agent Orange”. It was exposure. This is all based in fact, and they implemented this into the show. Agent Orange is a devastating chemical. It causes cancer and genetic mutations. Not only does it happen in the person exposed, but their children, and we have found out recently that Grandchildren have the genetic mutations. Agent Orange can also cause no symptoms in the person exposed, but the kids or grandkids can still have it. Hopper’s daughter had cancer derived from Agent Orange. I have worked with a ton of Vietnam Vets, and many of them had similar situations to Hopper. It’s truly sad.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
Not true. Henry got his powers when he was born. Hopper's daughter was exposed to Agent Orange. It causes birth deformities and possibly death of children.
@juanelizondo5409
@juanelizondo5409 2 года назад
Vecna told eleven he took her powers through the bite in season 3, that's why he could suddenly open gates, like eleven. And maybe that is how he got his powers in the first place? Though a bite.
@jessicabussell784
@jessicabussell784 2 года назад
Like a spider....
@pointless3410
@pointless3410 2 года назад
Currently, the town is in ruins so my theory is somehow they go back in time and save Max before she loses her conscious.
@dmacg5520
@dmacg5520 2 года назад
The stranger things fan base, is literally the dumbest fan base ever, like these theories r so stupid 🤣🤣
@nyirodavid
@nyirodavid 2 года назад
So nobody is gonna talk about the fact that Henry had dark brown hair when he was a child, then later it changed to blonde? The hawkins lab must had a great hairdresser.
@viciousLUA
@viciousLUA 2 года назад
Dude. That happens ALLLLLL the time. Hair color can change as you grow older.
@eyetrollin710
@eyetrollin710 2 года назад
The kid had an olive complexion and the adult is very Pasty,, there was a bad job of casting trying to defend it and say that your hair goes blonde with age is ludicrous I've known lots of people who had lighter hair when they were younger and it turns darker but it never goes from darker to lighter without some chemical assistance
@IhateIsrahell
@IhateIsrahell 2 года назад
@@viciousLUA but when you grow older, your hair becomes darker, not brighter. Either there’s a theory or slight conspiracy or duffer brothers made a slight mistake.
@theknightofren
@theknightofren 2 года назад
maybe he bleached his hair?
@shyannecrawford7069
@shyannecrawford7069 2 года назад
Is it possible that as your hair grows out it gets lighter? Or is it the other way around? I just thought young Henry's hair was kept short so you couldn't see it get blonde. And adult 001's roots are the same color as the kid's
@Zelinkondorf
@Zelinkondorf 2 года назад
Just because he was the first to be found and entered into the project, doesn't mean he was the very first. Maybe there's somebody out there who has those powers and kept hidden
@BIGGOODBOY
@BIGGOODBOY 2 года назад
This explained nothing about how he got his powers…..
@malibukitt
@malibukitt 2 года назад
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@igvidzfrmrob6373
@igvidzfrmrob6373 2 года назад
😭😭
@asher_hauck1
@asher_hauck1 2 года назад
Love the content and the dedication
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 2 года назад
Thanks - glad you enjoy the videos!
@xzh3l0n74
@xzh3l0n74 2 года назад
My theory is that in s5 Ell would try to piggyback Vecna. Vecna can absorbe anyones power with contact and he has killed all the test subjects and taken their abilityes. So they are locked inside him. If Ell travel into Vecna maybe she can absorbe their powers and use it against Vecna. Even get 008 powers as well.
@obvssoph
@obvssoph 2 года назад
008 isn't dead
@arshkhanlm3086
@arshkhanlm3086 2 года назад
Fun fact: Henry Creel took the Compound V as a child, that's why he got powes
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 2 года назад
The crossover we never knew we needed!
@Fabio_53
@Fabio_53 2 года назад
I'm really enjoying these brief but detailed and entertaining theory vids on stranger things brain plot. Thanks!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 2 года назад
Glad you like them!
@marvelgoddess4183
@marvelgoddess4183 2 года назад
Maybe Henry’s dad was exposed to chemicals during the war which were transferred to Henry helping him to produce his original powers 🤷🏼‍♀️
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
No, Henry Creel used his powers to project his vision that he sees in WWII. I have seen it while I have watched the episode when Victor Creel who is lock up told the two girls about it.
@DaveRicher705
@DaveRicher705 2 года назад
‘He was number 1, reason for that is he was first’. Mind blowing journalistic attention right there :p lol
@ImperiousJordan
@ImperiousJordan Год назад
Imagine Terry saying Breath, Sunflower, Rainbow, Four-fifty…….she stops before saying the rest of the words and looks around, slowly.
@milanovicr
@milanovicr 2 года назад
I believe that the inspiration for Vecna is the biblical theme of Anthrist bringing with it four riders of the apocalypse (four deaths to open a portal between upside down and earth). Beautiful and adorable, can make you believe in his words ( he convinced 11 to help him) before he'll bring hell on Earth. He was born with his abilities and destined to bring an end
@jonne02400
@jonne02400 2 года назад
Theory vecna is 11 father… it makes sense. He was number 1 and the lab made kids like 11 with henry creel being older than most kids
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
Noo no. Not the father per say you know they just used Henry’s DNA and introduced it into the fetus so they share some sort of kinship not father daughter
@reginasims6492
@reginasims6492 2 года назад
I believe Henry and Jane's mother met while she volunteered to be a test subject...they created El
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Technically no, Eleven got her powers through Dr. Brenner's experiment from Henry's blood to Eleven's mother.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@reginasims6492 Jane's Mother was selected for Dr.Brenners MKUltra Project to produce psy powered children.
@cklaim3084
@cklaim3084 2 года назад
her father is Andrew
@CarringtonK-mr2lx
@CarringtonK-mr2lx 2 года назад
Wait, vecna can heal himself, but so could el as far as we know-(when she revived max) I wonder if any other of the kids have those abilities
@renanmartins9027
@renanmartins9027 2 года назад
I think Vecna can heal himself because he "fused" with the mind flayer in the upside down, and won some new abilities, you can see he's totally different comparing to his human form. But that's a valid hypothesis, since Eleven made to heal Max in some way, we're still not sure if she used telekinesis to make her heart beat again or maybe we saw her new power.
@CarringtonK-mr2lx
@CarringtonK-mr2lx 2 года назад
@@renanmartins9027 good theory!
@nickjarvis2731
@nickjarvis2731 2 года назад
And it turns out it was all just a massive metaphor for an epic D&D game. The end.
@christopheremfinger3666
@christopheremfinger3666 5 месяцев назад
What I really want is for somehow Terry comes out of her shock induced condition. Obviously she is aware of her surroundings, and capable of thought. She exibits telekinesis and telepathy herself. What else can she do? Eleven learned she had another power. What about her mother? Does she also have undiscovered extra abilities also? I believe Terry also knows of the existence of Demogorgons, the mindflayer, and Vecna too. It would be most likely that even in her innactive phisical state she's aware of what is happening in Hawkins too. Knows her daughter is in danger. Nothing a mother wouldn't do to protect her child once she finds her.
@gf1006
@gf1006 2 года назад
The powers are almost 100% linked to the upside down dimension.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Yes, it's quite true due to psychic connections between Vecna, Eleven. Kali-008, and Will and Max who has been flayed.
@chrissymeri4957
@chrissymeri4957 2 года назад
But if El's mom may have had powers naturally too and was possibly born with them, wouldn't the same be true for El? I hope in season 5 we get even more backstory. Maybe 8 coming back too or maybe even others that could have somehow survived. Idk. If they leave these questions open after season 5 I will be so annoyed. Also, even if 001 was born with powers, where did they come from? How? Saying "he was just born that way" still explains nothing honestly.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
No, Dr.Brenner injected Jane's Mother with blood of Henry Creel-001 under the MKUltra Project. It also explains why Kali-008 got her powers but she was born in England and her mother was too in the project.
@rhenzokuken
@rhenzokuken 2 года назад
Title: How Henry Got His Powers Video: (7min) He's born with it. Cool.
@felipedeoliveira6300
@felipedeoliveira6300 Месяц назад
I was recently rewatching season 4, and I was thinking, Hopper worked with some chemicals in the war(wasnt it?), wich did not affect him directly, but when he had a daughter... well, we all know... I wonder, did Victor Creel also brought something back that he passed on to Henry?
@MathewBrunetta
@MathewBrunetta 2 года назад
Spoiler Alert: He was just born with it.
@nicholascahyadi2770
@nicholascahyadi2770 2 года назад
I feel like the answer is simple. He's a mutant. That's it. He was the number 1 after all.
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
Yeah either that or since his father(victor creel) was back from war and like hopper explained some kind of chemical they used in war might have passed on to the child via sperm. Sarah died of cancer but who knows henry got super powers instead of cancer.
@margarcia20
@margarcia20 2 года назад
@@rashmirathnayake_ The timeline would not add up. The chemical Hopper was exposed to was agent orange. Victor Creel fought in WW2, but agent orange wasn't used until the Vietnam war which was in 1955, 8 years after Henry was born.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Henry is not a mutant.
@rashmirathnayake_
@rashmirathnayake_ 2 года назад
@@margarcia20 yeah my point was not the same chemical they were exposed to. I mean hopper said they used chemicals in war so could it be they used some chemicals (not agent orange specifically) in WW2 so victor was exposed to. There should be a point why hopper mentioned it i mean it from the the writers perspective
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
@@rashmirathnayake_ ... Agent Orange was used in the Vietnam War, not the WWII. Hopper was exposed to Agent Orange and later when he returned home and be with his wife, and got her pregnant, Hopper and his wife gave birth to a child that was deformed and dying
@mohammedrahman8213
@mohammedrahman8213 2 года назад
I will sub to this guy for all these stranger thing vidsp
@Waywind420
@Waywind420 2 года назад
The sound for Henry's telekinesis is badass
@Mightyria
@Mightyria 2 года назад
I think that maybe Eleven is his child. And also some how Will is related to him as well.
@Carlos-fn2hl
@Carlos-fn2hl 2 года назад
I have the feeling that 001 and El's mother got together during her time in the research lab where she underwent the experiments and El was the result of that interaction... Maybe he doesn't know it, but it would explain why he cared about her so much and why he wanted Eleven by his side so badly. Father & daughter reshaping the world
@epicsweetness712
@epicsweetness712 2 года назад
That's a good theory, I mean don't ever remember them mentioning who El's father was
@quintenoldedaalhuis4799
@quintenoldedaalhuis4799 2 года назад
@@epicsweetness712 i believe it was stated in a book
@josephcallahan1931
@josephcallahan1931 2 года назад
“Tellepethy” 😂😂😂
@bbq-yh9li
@bbq-yh9li 7 месяцев назад
We don't know how anyone got powers yet, hopefully season 5 will tell all 😊
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 7 месяцев назад
It’ll be interesting to learn more about all of their origins!
@ToqTheWise
@ToqTheWise 2 года назад
One thing I’m wondering now is if the Hawkins Lab Experiment children all have the same powers and each merely has a proclivity for some over others. Like they all see to be capable of telekinesis, at least all the children we saw in the flashbacks this season. I can’t remember if we ever saw Kali use telekinesis though. Tests like the one where they were pushing each other wouldn’t make sense if she didn’t have those powers though. Like what is she supposed to do, just sit in the corner? I think that Henry acquired his powers naturally, either as some genetic fluke or because of some kind of environmental contamination while his mother was pregnant with him. Once he was discovered, Brenner led an offshoot of MKUltra that set out to replicate his powers in other children. The idea being to raise super soldiers and remote spies and assassins. Then Henry went awol after committing the Hawkins Lab Massacre and Brenner secretly steered the experiment in another direction, sending Elven into the Upside Down to find Henry. I’m not sure what Brenner intentions were from there. Like I don’t know if he wanted to help him or track him down to basically hold him accountable for what he did.
@xlr8r17
@xlr8r17 2 года назад
Brenner is a scientist, I think he wanted to know what the result was of eleven sending 01 into the upside down.
@karantyagi272
@karantyagi272 2 года назад
what if Henry's and Eleven's mothers come out to be sisters and their powers might have been getting transferred from several generations? Now the question is who was the real NUMBER ONE?
@jimgardner5129
@jimgardner5129 Год назад
And will he MAKE IT SO? Wait, Ryker's first name on Star Trek Next Generation is Will. And he's referred to as Number One! Plus, that's an 80's show, isn't it? Will is the real Number One! Mind blown.
@blackandbluecamaro2877
@blackandbluecamaro2877 2 года назад
Maybe at some point in season 5, Vecna will say to 11, "I am your father" and she'll yell NOOOOOO!!!
@randomfan4966
@randomfan4966 2 года назад
Omg that would be beautiful
@jimgardner5129
@jimgardner5129 Год назад
"Jane, I am your father."
@randomfan4966
@randomfan4966 Год назад
@@jimgardner5129 Eleven: “ NOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
@Mainyehc
@Mainyehc Год назад
Interesting that you should mention Henry/One/Vecna’s regenerative powers; Eleven basically resuscitated Max’s body, which means she either was born with that power as well, or acquired/learnt it from Henry through exposure. Also, one of Henry’s powers, simulating different realities, isn’t present in Eleven but in Eight, which leads more credence to the theory that the latter will also reappear in Season 5 as an ally.
@narutotrickzxtv3D
@narutotrickzxtv3D 2 года назад
Regardless we still don’t know where the powers them selves came from because as far as we know no one in Henry’s family showed any signs of having similar powers people seem to think that Henry krill was just a means to an end the darkness chose him and manipulated him to kind of do its bidding which as a result gave him the powers he would need to carry out it will and I can kinda see that happening…Henry believing he’s in control when really it’s the “force” telling him what to do.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@Fea†her .. There were micro portals that pop up all over the world. Henry Creel's parents or Henry Creel himself must have absorb the Shadow Creature's powers.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@Fea†her ... The portals were also opened in Russia. They tried to use nuclear powered laser drillers to push the door open, but it was very tough. Then as KGB spies in America found out the big portal has been opened in Hawkins, Indiana. The Soviets came up with a plan. They have investors buy an open land, built an underground based next to the portal source. And it to prevent the U.S. Government from knowing the plans, they built a shopping mall called Starcourt.
@pi.log10
@pi.log10 2 года назад
@Fea†her Henry got his powers from Grandfather Clock, how and why, Season - 5.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
@@pi.log10 .. No its not. There is another explanation why The Creel Family moved to the Victorian home.
@henryvirtum1520
@henryvirtum1520 2 года назад
I'm thinking maybe the reason some humans are born with powers is because maybe some humans are connected to the upside down more than others aka it could be like the force from star wars.
@KANDI-
@KANDI- 2 года назад
3:37 I actually think Virginia creel could’ve been part of mk ultra. We already know that she has connections to Brenner from what Henry said to Nancy.
@lovelydime7913
@lovelydime7913 Год назад
Raphael Luce did great job playing Henry Creel in Stranger things season 5.
@mysticalmaniac2
@mysticalmaniac2 2 года назад
This video literally doesn't give us an answer....
@nesiyacp8395
@nesiyacp8395 2 года назад
well yeah
@entertainment2133
@entertainment2133 2 года назад
Henry born with supernatural powers, but why only him and why this powers only get to a person who wants to destroy humans, i think there must be an origin for this also
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
There is possibility that Henry's powers could resulted with dimensional micro portals that was opened causing some of the essence of the Shadow Particles to absorbed into parents. When Henry Creel was born, he has the powers.
@rjofusetsudzin8011
@rjofusetsudzin8011 2 года назад
This is exactly why I think that Upside Down and potentialy Mindflayer was involved in Creel getting powers. Mindflayer is like virus spreading through mutliverse. It attacks by infecting somebody with powers like Creel who is psychopath who will then help hivemind take over the wordl. Its little too convenient that Creel was yeeted by Ileven into the Upside Down when he also conveniently find the measn for the potential. Mindflayer cant conquer worlds on its own so its uses agents like Vecna. It could take Spider form only to appeal Henry not that it had to. They are buisness partners. So yeah Vecna could have been behind all the events in Stranger Things uptil now and causing the events, but he is still working for benefit of Hivemind which will now absorb another world thanks to gate opening. It was intentionaly left ambigious what exactly Henry did to the mindflayer. And its also reason why only psychopath like Henry got powers. Mindflayer needs people willing to work with him. And its possible that when infected person makes contact with Mindflayer its getting stronger. Kinda like parasyte.
@cbecker5886
@cbecker5886 2 года назад
One difference that I realize. Henry uses candles aka heat and fire to go into his/other people’s minds. Eleven uses water/cool things
@pauliewalnuts2527
@pauliewalnuts2527 2 года назад
I never asked how Henry got his powers, I want to know how Dr Brenner knew he had em. It's not like the kid went around telling the world he had em
@JohnnyFive1991
@JohnnyFive1991 2 года назад
Didn't Henry's powers start before moving in some way? I thought they made a point that moving to Hawkins was to help Henry and give him a fresh start
@Van-xk7gn
@Van-xk7gn 2 года назад
Yes.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
He was born with the powers.
@kiingzay731
@kiingzay731 2 года назад
Wouldn’t Henry be near the same age as Jane’s mother…she was also gifted and kept prisoner by Doctor Brenner…So Jane’s powers are not just stemmed from “ONE” *edit* I was only halfway through the video 😅
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
Through genetic injection by Dr Brenner.
@kiingzay731
@kiingzay731 2 года назад
@@jacobtennyson9213 Negative.. Jane’s mother was a part of MK Ultra experiments “willingly”. Which was from the 1950s to the early 1970s. (There where other powers of interest to Dr.Brenner prior to Henry) Before Henry was taken by Brenner at age 12. Victor Creel was charged with the murders in the Spring of 1959. The show is only set in the early 1980s… Vecna is Nearly 70 years old they say. He was about 32 when he was sent into the upside down. Victor Creel who should be way older, is still alive. Maybe (obviously) Vecna is using his powers to prevent the aging of the two. Possibly to use his father again in later episodes as the blame for what he has already been convicted of…Nobody has seen Vecna on the real world surface yet only in hallucinations. His dad just might be the puppet he needs. Who knows 😭🤷‍♂️ Can’t wait until The Fall or Maybe next year to see what’s next. 🥤🍿
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@kiingzay731 ... According to the flashback Henry was actually 11 years old going on 12 when he was taken away to Dr. Brenner after the doctors and nurse who treated him discover his powers, but he couldn't control it because he overused it to kill his mother and sister and messed his father's mind before he fell into a coma. In 1979 When Henry was 32 years old, Eleven banished him to the Upside Down. In 1986 Victor Creel is older and still alive in mental institution still delusional. Could be Vecna using his power to make him alive. However, we do not know about because it has not been discussed from Victor Creel to two of the Stranger Things friends. In the series. Victor did not reveal to know that Vecna did this to him while in that State. He only knows happen to his family his wife and daughter was tortured to death. He even wants the demon to kill him so he can meet his family. But it wasn't the demon that killed his family. It was Henry. I know the Jane was in the MKUltra experiment, not the 1950s but in the late 1960s. Jane-011 was born in 1971. endowed by powers of from genetic passing from Henry Creel-001. I know about flashback scenes of season 4 of Stranger Things. Nice try.
@kiingzay731
@kiingzay731 2 года назад
Don’t know if you think this is some sort of competition or what.. by the “nice try”, but whatever expert…These are fan theories…since you said nice try. Nice try thinking you made some sort of corrections or ground breaking discoveries…You said what I said with more accurate numbers (probably) that’s it. Eleven has powers that do not pertain to Henry…which come from her mother, If not then she would have succumbed to joining 1 as a young girl…The LOVE that Henry did not receive from his parents, which is the reason why he chose Evil. LOVE IS OBVIOUSLY THE THEME OF THE NEXT SEASON. 🤷‍♂️ …what did Dustin quote about things be so obvious & overlooked 😂 Even iRL LOVE is the strongest & most powerful energy known to mankind. nice try😉 (“I ain’t mad at’chu, I got nothing but love for ya… do yo thang boy”) 💎🖤♻️🤍👑
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@@kiingzay731 .... Eleven got her powers when she born after the Jane's Mother was part of Dr. Brenner's MKUltra Project to create psy powered children from the blood and sperm of Henry Creel to be used as super soldiers to destroy the Soviet Union.
@ubergammer00
@ubergammer00 Год назад
I don’t think vecna made the mind flayed..? I think that scene was of him discovering the entity and sort making a pact with it.
@gl2461
@gl2461 Год назад
If Henry had abilities naturally, there must be other people with abilities outside of Hawkins with natural abilities like Henry. Hope they show some overpowered beings in Season 5. Maybe Henry's relatives.
@johnpettigrew9971
@johnpettigrew9971 2 года назад
I feel Elevens mother is Henry's sister. And was taken away to protect her, well they all thought Henry was dead also. But i still think Papa is not actually dead and is behind it all. Will's drawing with the three headed dragon reminded me of the Dungeons and Dragons Cartoon. The reason i feel Dr Brenner is behind it all if you remember the end of season 3 when Eleven had her powers removed it was not untill that part of the mind flayer came out of her leg. This means that One could not have been in full control of the mind flayer as Eleven had powers before Vecna molded those particles to become the mind flayer, Brenner is Venger and that other DR i feel is the Dungeon Master.
@mattreigada3745
@mattreigada3745 2 года назад
Henry’s abilities really don’t need an explanation. The rest of the show’s plot directly precipitates from him having had powers. So if it was a fluke mutation with no explanation that’s fine. The entire plot only existed because of Henry and we’re watching these specific fictional characters in this specific fictional town because this is when and where this event took place (so there’s no arbitrary coincidences here).
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 2 года назад
@Fea†her ... It was not a fluke mutation.
@midtwilightblue
@midtwilightblue Год назад
I know Hollywood always depicts a Good vs Evil through usage of the Bible but I was pretty stunned by how much actually was implemented into Vecna’s transitioning from human into the beast. Just like The Fall of Satan, casted out of Heaven like lightening. El, meaning God. Also very symbolic to the Masons/ the occult as the Antichrist. Eleven, the number, surpassing 10 which represents God; (perfect) 10.
@rhbrand1
@rhbrand1 Год назад
Crazy theory. Henry is 11's father. They knew 11's mother had minor powers, and cause she was in the program, used Henry's sperm to produce another super strong subject.
@jacobtennyson9213
@jacobtennyson9213 Год назад
No, Eleven's father was Andrew. Eleven's mother was given drugs and the blood and sperm of Henry Creel during the MKUltra Project.
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