Tell that to the rally full of Trump supporters yesterday when Trump basically said out loud that if they voted him in this time, he'd get it fixed so they never have to vote again.
@@weirdo1060 This is a blatant lie. Hong Kong still has “one country, two systems.” It has its own judicial, legislative, executive system and bodies that allows HK to run in a different way than China. You can say the mainland has definitely got closer to HK, but they are not “one system” at all.
@@enryhen6859 You are clearly delusional. HK laws have been adjusted to conform to the authoritarian policies of the CCP. This was implemented after passage of the new Security Law. Basic democratic freedoms (free speech, equal justice for all, etc.) which were enjoyed under British rule, can no longer be taken for granted. A significantly different social and political environment now exists in HK, similar to that which exists on the China mainland, which is essentially a dictatorship under Pres. Xi Jin Ping.
@@spencerbuchanan95 LMAO, that's why you need to wake up, China 2024 is completely a different country than 1980s. You should ask a Chinese person how their life have changed in the past 40 years instead of reading anti-China propaganda and making stuff up.
@@tofuyam7361 nah, English is America's official language. We don't suppress other people's native tongue. In fact, schools in America encourages their students to learn a 2nd/3rd language they prefer.
China brought many of their people out of poverty. Although there is still a lot of people live in poverty, there is a lot of people doing well. It will continue to get better. You see how China improved in the last 20 years. I could tell you they did not do anything wrong. You give them credit for the improvement. As it is with all form of government, there is always some disagreement from a particular group of people. If US let China to freely run their country and China let US run their country freely, you will see who will do better at the end.
I used to love to go to Hong Kong, with its freewheeling commerce and creative citizens and culture. Now it's a shell of its former self. The rule of law has ended. Foreign executives have voted with their feet. I refuse to go there or do business there.
@@kevinjenner9502 You mean you are actually defending the "friends of CCP" illegitimate despots in Libya, Syria,Iraq, Afghanistan...?! Don't bother to delete your post, I took a screenshot already!
Now, it's hard for Foreign investors and banks to invest Hong Kong and China business and industries. The Hong Kong National Security Law, enacted in June 2020, criminalizes secession, subversion, terrorism, and collusion with foreign forces. It has curtailed freedoms of speech, press, and assembly in Hong Kong. In response, the U.S. Treasury has sanctioned several Hong Kong and Chinese officials, freezing assets and restricting business with them. These sanctions and the law's provisions have increased investment risks and operational uncertainties for foreign businesses in Hong Kong. Article 38 of the law extends its reach to offenses committed outside Hong Kong, raising concerns about legal liabilities for foreign nationals. The law and sanctions have strained diplomatic relations, complicating the investment climate in Hong Kong.
Judge for yourself: Hong Kong Nat'l Security Law translated into English by Hong Kong Free Press. Interesting read, especially Article 4 and note Article 23 cited in the news clip: hongkongfp.com/2020/07/01/in-full-english-translation-of-the-hong-kong-national-security-law/
You know what is ironic. That Communist China today is more akin to National Socialism(Fascism) then it is to Traditional Communism. China isn't a Communist Nation any longer, it's a Fascist State. With the Promotion of Han Chinese as the Standard State Culture. At an Economic view, the Mixed Market and Nationalist elements. It's Fascist.
Google how many protesters were actually killed by HK police during the riots. Hint: ZERO. One if you count the guy who jumped off a bridge while escaping arrest.
@robocop581 That's freedom in Hong Kong? I don't think so. 47 HongKongers in the jails? Some are famous, such as opposition lawmakers - Claudia Mo, Helena Wong, Kwok ka-ki - and icons of the 2014 pro-democracy protests that rocked Hong Kong - Joshua Wong and Benny Tai. But many like Owen Chow, Ventus Lau, and Tiffany Yuen represented a new generation of vocal activists.
I'll never layover in Hong Kong again after what I experienced in 2019. Aside from an airport that had almost no where to charge up, the security people questioned everyone at the gate waiting to board the plane back to the US, asking what purpose we all had for being in Hong Kong. I just stayed in the airport for a 12 hour layover and they didn't believe me that I had no interest in visiting the city and were suspicious. Felt like a police state, and I never had that feeling in Taiwan, Korea, or Philippines.
CIA Coups overthrowing the government’s of Iran (1953) Guatemala (1954) Congo (1960) Dominican Republic (1961) S Vietnam (1963) Brazil (1964) Chile (1973).. the short list
How Eisenhower overthrew the Iranian government and installed the Shah as an American puppet, at Britain’s request. (CIA Operation Ajax…MI6 Operation Boot 1953)
Two million Hongkongers participated in peaceful protests before police repression plunged the city into violence and justified the imposition of draconian laws. The powers that be successfully crushed the people's will.
I can confidently say that Hong Kong residents are far happier in 2024 than 2019. Anyone living in HK does not like the current stage can leave Hong Kong (freely) as long as the other side takes him/her. Western media is often twisting the fact, unfortunately. Take a trip to HK and to China, and you will see how prosperous and happy people are. 🎉🎉🎉
Hong Kong has paid a big price for the world at large to see the true face of CCP. CBS should consider making a report on 721 as well, which was also very frightening
My sister in law is from Hong Kong. Her mother is there living with a daughter and her husband. The rest of the family has fled to the US because they lost their jobs under the new regime. They all have college degrees, have high paying jobs, and have assimilated to Oregon and Texas. Hong Kong as we knew it is absolutely gone. It’s a giant police state now. They went to visit her mother last year and the place is empty with lots of businesses shuttered.
It isn't. As someone who actually lives here I have seen little to no change in our society, culture and daily lives. This city is not 'empty', home to 7 million versus Oregon's 4 million, with about a fraction of the land mass. Your sister-in-law had it lucky, I personally know many who left their families, jobs to move to the UK, Canada, who are all struggling to survive after leaving their high-paying jobs here in Hong Kong.
@@ragingshibe You are being ridiculous and rather racist. I can have my own opinions and White Western people don't have to agree with them. Besides I am the one actually here in China. Do you think that I might know something about it.
@@ragingshibe Read the Wikileaks account of what happened that night. Also what are these social credit points you White Western people keep talking about?
@@barbarjinks8170 Hey, the Cultural Revolution has been over for a half century now. Things are much freer in China and slowly improving. America has become less free over the same time and less prosperous.
3:52 what a courageous citizen. By contrast that congress woman is a total sellout. Funny she said safety and stability had returned to Hong Kong, when people in Hong Kong are too scared to say what they really think and want, the opposite of how things were several years ago.
Like San Francisco, many retail stores are shutting down for good. There is no business. The middle class literally disappeared in Hong Kong. Everyone emigrated to other countries. Most importantly, the biggest chunk of business in Hong Kong, the container terminal, is empty. Businesses have moved over to mainland China. Millions of Hong Kongers go into mainland China to dine, shop, do facial, massages, and then buy groceries to bring back to Hong Kong. Mainland Chinese visitors coming into Hong Kong hardly spent anything in Hong Kong. Even Marks and Spencer in Hong Kong had to close. Very sad situation. This is what we called “they (Chinese government) killed the golden goose.”
Pro-Democracy shouldn’t be recognized as something against loyalty to governments who impact with new laws to sideline criticism, it should be recognized as a goal to be obtained where the character of the people is reflected by the laws and institutions implemented by governments to serve democratic principles that consider autonomy a prevailing ideology in practice. Hong Kong like Tibet is suffering from mainland China and America’s possible future includes totalitarian setbacks if the battle to control the consciousness of the populace becomes too corrupted for the practice of liberty and civilized exchange by all the different factions of society.
This entire video skips over all the people the British killed and how they obtained Hong Kong and tells you nothing about the national security law and the crimes that made it got proposed
I'm so appalled with people who said they are for democracy, free speech, etc. But when different opinions surface, it is immediately shut down by accusations of paid shill, CCP Agent, Wumao, etc. When you resort to name calling, you have lost the argument. When you want to show the superiority of democracy, free speech, etc, learn to respect diversity of thoughts. By calling names, canceling your opponent, shut down discussion, you're exactly behaving like the person you accusing of!
Maybe you should learn a bit of how the British has been ruling HK. HKers weren't allowed to vote during majority of British rule, and then UK signed the deal with China, suddently UK wants to promote democrazy in HK.
Kid yourself not, but it was a police state under the Brits, who only allowed a form of representative government when their lease was up and they had to return HK to China.
Not to mention, the British basically robbed HK. No mention of Opium War, how many countries carved China for themselves during the waning years of Qing Dynasty. Bottom line, HK belongs to China. Historically there is no ambiguity as far as HK’s status as compared to Nine-dash Line. I don’t understand why Western media is still so hung up on HK? I mean even the most ardent protester, Joshua Wong is not demanding independence.
The real problem with Hong Kong is as a city with 6.7 million people. In the future, what industry will it rely on to compete with other cities in the world? Hong Kong's prosperity was backed by mainland China. Hong Kong is the window of China's foreign trade and the busiest port in the world. China's unstable political situation has also brought many outstanding talents to Hong Kong. But the current situation is that China is becoming more and more open. China have 7 ports of the top ten ports in the world in 2021. Note that there is no Hong Kong here. Tourism, trade, finance, high-end manufacturing, AI.
HK developed and prospered by itself (under British democratic rule). It is now a dependency of China. China may have 'open' port cities, but it can never be open socially or politically as long as it is subject to control by the CCP.
@@sinjersable Before 1949, the economy of Hong Kong, a British colony for several decades, was not strong. At that time, the most developed city in Asia was Shanghai. Moreover, during the British colonial period in Hong Kong, there was no democracy in Hong Kong. Almost all middle and high-level Hong Kong officials are British.
I somewhat agree and disagree with what you're saying. Previously, part of HK's prosperity came about because it was a rule-of-law conduit for trade between China and the rest of the world. The actual goods being traded may or may not be legal - but the trade was protected by strong commercial law. Hence enterprises large and small could feel safe conducting business in HK. BUT another huge contributor to HK's success was its people. The most resourceful refugees from China made their way to HK wherein it was a Darwinian sink or swim environment. The British overlords did not care enough of their colonial second class citizen subjects to put in place a safety net. So by selection (natural or unnatural), the most enterprising succeeded. Today, rule of law is disintegrating - international businesses are hesitant about basing in HK. And as you said, there are numerous other potential choices for ports of trade. And the best and brightest have either emigrated, are trying to emigrate, or have shut down. HK will become a second tier Chinese city whose better days are in its past.
That is so stoopid. The whole misreading of the 2nd amendment is tragic with tragic consequences. I wish that the American educational system would teach its citizenry to actually read. But I guess that selective misunderstanding of black and white texts is par for the course for under-educated fanatics.
All this talk about HK while the new UK govt has said the UK is broke and broken. Fix your own problems first but then again it’s an inherent western trait to lecture other countries.
As to your first point, true. But in the world of realpolitik, Might makes Right. Deng made no move on HK because he knew that China did not have the power to do so. UK established a handover timeline because practically speaking, it could not keep HK island without the rest of the territory and did not have the power or money to do so. And today, the UK is a weak shadow of itself and can do NOTHING to protect its own citizens such as Jimmy Lai. As for the second point, you might have a chat with fatboy Kim or numerous mullahs/emirs/imams. I'm sure they would be surprised that they are upholding the "Western" tradition of lecturing the rest of the world.
Common … visitors keep traveling to China and Hong Kong is even better - just wanted to return to UK colony … what kind of freedom - keep talking garbage or treason. Who does not want to be citizen of great country (MAGA is US dream - right) Why not appreciate China leading in space exploration and green energy, high speed rail, subway, city modernization … not great enough for these freedom fighters or back to UK 😢 give me a break.
Not to different in the US, you can't openly criticize Woke and DEI policies, you don't have a say what your kids do and learn in school, welcome to the club
If you think that China is a free country it is not. It's a communist country with a very strong tie to capitalism. It's oppressive like communism, but it strives for inequality and more for capitalism. Hong Kong was free and very much more western than any other area of China, it would have been nice to see Hong Kong as an independent country of its own. When you see UK leave and China take over you fully understand how nice it is to have the backing of a truly free country under your control as opposed to what it is today.
@@adamdaniel8909 : 😅 Yeah, a lot of Chinese moved back to live/work/retired in HK and China only once they have the security of a Western country's citizenship and/or company.
Hong Kong has lost it's identity.... It's weird that Hong Kong was able to send its Olympic team to Paris2024, even won a gold medal 🥇 in fencing! I spend 2 nights every 30 days while I was teaching in Guangzhou from 2012-13. The small school was to cheap to get teachers to apply for work visa, so i had to "exit"every 30 days. Luckily the 3 hours bus ride was cheap and convenient, i also "exit" to Macau and return to Guangzhou the same evening. It was safe to wondered around the open air markets, they sell everything you can imagine. Hong Kong police were around the streets.
What people don’t seem to understand is that if we had any chance at introducing greater levels of democracy in our political system, all the steps we had taken had been crushed by foreign interference and people with ulterior motives. I live in HK and all I can say is that my experience as a real, local person is completely different from how the video paints our life to be. First of all, no one had ever truly celebrated July 1… just because there has always been a bit of historical grudge against the communists. Second of all, we have always been allowed to criticise the government and many still do (our newspaper columnists are brutal to say the least), and the government actually does listen to our concerns. What is different is that we have put our foot down, drawn the line, decided that we don’t need foreign agents stirring up political separatism here. We have always been Chinese (up until the Opium War, another can of worms) and will always be a part of China, and we do not welcome people stirring up issues here and disrupting our peace and prosperity. Our socioeconomic issues have less to do with the Handover than a series of bad policies and political upheavals. Oh by the way, anti-China =/= pro-democracy, stop linking the two together and entertaining people who do that. When you do that, you do not help promote the democratic cause at all. The narrative here does not reflect my experience as a Hongkonger, as much as this is a narrative that foreign media likes to paint. But again, we’ve never truly been heard as real people now have we? Since there is always a bias towards the story you like to hear and the group of people who sell you that story, rather than how things really are for the people here. (So don’t pretend you know what we want.) Don’t try to come here to “save” us please, we are doing very well. There is so much disinformation and bias just from this one clip, I have to say that if you are here to jump on the “hate China” bandwagon, have fun. But if you are truly here to understand HK, this clip is completely a dystopian novelist’s fantasy.
I would just like to also add in one of my experiences from the 2019 protests, so that you can decide for yourself how much of a “democratic movement” it all was. I was out one day not wearing the standard all black outfit that the protesters had called for everyone to wear, and I got stuck in a crowd when they congregated in one of my usual spots for running errands. I was stared at and some people looked at me very angrily, almost coming over to surround me, until another woman in the group stopped them. There was a foreign man in front of me, also not wearing black, and he was very irritated with being stuck in the crowd as well. The woman thought I was with him, and pointed out that maybe I was not Hongkonger and so they decided to let it drop that I wasn’t wearing black. It was a most terrifying experience of my life. There was nothing “democratic” about the movement, it was all a mix of anti-China rage and city-wide infighting, on top of some very, very deep socioeconomic grievances that existed long before the Handover. I also want to add that Apple Daily has never truly been a proper newspaper. Sure, people loved to read it but it started out as more of a tabloid, definitely not one of the respectable or reliable papers, not a paper our teachers would allow us to use for newspaper clippings homework, even before the Handover. It has always been known to publish sensationalist gossips. I don’t know how it has established an international reputation for being some kind of “beacon of democracy”, but it has never been a reliable source of media.
@@christopherwayne2761 : 🤔 This what? Duopoly? *US has many parties, not just 2, and THOUSANDS of privately-owned free Press* and Social Media, not just State media. For example, there are *10 newspaper companies just in 1.5M population Hawaii,* not to mention all the ones in different languages like Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Hawaiian, Filipino, etc.
@@pohanahawaii You said like any third party has any chance 😀. Main stream media gives Jill Stein zero coverage. Your free press are united behind corporate powers.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. HK has always been a Chinese territory, until it was unjustly seized by the British empire. Honestly, most of these young protestors were born after the handover and never experienced colonial days. Did we have universal suffrage before the handover? Of course not. The governors were directly appointed by the UK without consulting Hong Kong people's opinions during the colonial days. It wasn't until the 1980s that we had local elections and a Legislative Council to choose. Anyways, these protests before have been blown out of proportion and largely funded by foreign powers to destabilize the local region.
It's pretty sad how Western Media positions the riots that happened in HK as pro-democracy. For all of you Americans that think your media is giving you factual information, please do some research on your own about these riots. Similar to the Black Lives matter movement in the US, protests that de-evolve into actual riots in unacceptable in any nation. This is what happened in HK as well. As a HKer, I would say the protestors initally had some relevant social issues that needed addressing such as the high cost of living in HK, housing, etc. but when these de-evolved into riots...I lost any support for the movement. HK rioters were running amok destroying public infrastructure, setting ablaze other HKers who did not support their cause...it was digusting.
Hong Kong had already died. for those real hongkongers, there is no longer our home hong kong, what's left is just south Shenzhen for those people still willing to stay behind
The British, sadly, kept their word and returned HK to the Chinese. They should have reneged. They gave a vibrant, FREE, powerhouse away to a brutal dictatorship, with predictable results. The Chinese were always going to lay waste to it.
Fun fact, this video can be watched by millions of Hong Kong people and it's not being blocked by the Chinese government. Even Deadpool & Wolverine is playing in Hong Kong. LOL!
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." Yes, but not experiencing a pandemic that allowed China to push through its agenda without mass demonstrations is also pretty valuable.
Any human being with a good clear conscience should condemn the Chinese Communist Party for not honoring their promise to leave Hong Kong alone for 50 years!
They had their freedom ripped away. Poor Hong Kong. Those last words. Listen America. We are on the cusp ourselves. Vote! Vote! Vote! For Kamala Harris and every Democrat on your ballot. End this darkness and return joy to our vision!
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance", very well said. Gut wrenching to see Jimmy Lai and others be politically persecuted then tortured for actually committing no crime.
Well Hong Kong was never free even under British rule (i.e. the governor of Hong Kong was appointed by London) but when HK was handed over to People's of Republic of China it is much worst.
So true,democracy can collapse in months,if we want freedom we have to keep vigilant ,we should learn their lesson,and not take our democracy for granted !
A top HK executive recently said Hong Kong's democracy had failed and in 2021 the same person said democracy had no intrisic value, which showed how Hong Kong is being run presently. Had Hong Kong had democracy, the unrest in 2019 will not destroy itself just the same way the riot in the Capitol Hill in 2021 did not destroy America's integral political system. The truth was the gradual implementation of a democratic system introduced by the British administration prior to 1997 was strongly opposed by Beijing and similar promises enshrined in the Basic Law (a post 1997 mini constitution of HK) have not been kept by the current authorities!
