If i had a nickel for every time a sapphic lady in starfleet went back in time and was surprised by how hot spock was when he was younger, id have two nickels. Which isnt a lot, but its weird that it happened twice
It's a successful running gag. The series exceeded my expectations. I wouldn't mind if they went back in time. This time with the Cerritos they end up in the past and help them against a scientist who is using time jumps.😏
@@daniels7907 That may well be, but in the pilot "The Cage" he also smiled. I suspect that he had not yet decided on the vulcan way of life at that time. And that's why it came across as a bit more emotional. It wasn't until the Kirk era that he decided to do so.✌
@@daniels7907 The events are probably labelled exactly like the episode titles. They did once refer to a Ferengi acting stereotypically Fergengi-ish as a "Last Outpost throwback". Not mention specifically referring to two people getting merged through a transporter error as being "Tuvixed".
@@timfortune9 - There's probably an officer somewhere in Starfleet whose job is to name and categorize these incidents - which to us are episode titles. Although I did find it very interesting that Captain Freeman had to request Janeway's logs from the curator. That implies that Starfleet hasn't distributed them to every starship computer. Probably to hide some of the things she did.
@@daniels7907 Of the weird departments Starfleet has, my favorite is that they have an Internal Affairs division dedicated solely to time travelling incidents.
@@timfortune9 - Who are *soooooo* totally not good at their jobs given the generally fast-and-loose attitude that Starfleet captains tend to have about time travel. They take the Temporal Prime Directive about as seriously as the ban on Romulan Ale.
It's the tiny little forced swagger as she walks to the table... that's physical acting in keeping with the character, but too subtle to be part of the animated show.
I mean they’re larping essentially, but at their real job in their universe. They get to live every fan’s dream, and I think that’s why this show does so well. It’s wish fulfillment but with the caveat that it’s a clear love letter to everything that fans could love about Star Trek, even to make fun of. The fact that it’s fully unashamed about it is what sells it
@@JJNotAbrams-gl1io with all the tent encampments in many major US and Canadian cities these days, sanctuary districts aren't that hard to imagine followed by riots right away.....
So was the scene in Pike's quarters where Boimler says 'Riker' while jumping on a saddle. It's said that Jonathan Frake's wife was on set and howled with laughter at the ad-lib mention of her husband's character name.
I was waiting for a reference to Spock having excellent hearing. Wouldn't be the first time he overheard a compliment from a nearby private conversation.
@@skippythealien9627, he’s wasted on this show. It’s a series of disjointed episodes, nothing connecting them, no logic, no sense. The producers are going out of their way to show the audience a lot of flash…musical, time travel, court martial…and the only connected episodes are the cliffhangers so the series doesn’t get cancelled. Discovery showed us what Pike can do, gave him a terrible destiny, and then shows precious little connected to it. The characters have tragic backstories and nothing else in common. Yes, Mariner can’t ruin the show, but only because it was already ruined before she got there. Forget believability, forget relatable. SNW managed to keep the worst elements of the original series and replace the cast w/inferior substitutes.
@@r.c.auclair2042 - The standalone stories are a deliberate choice, because some viewers criticized that contemporary serialized Trek such as Discovery could not capture the "vibe" of classic Trek's "adventure of the week" format. As for if you find the results believable or relatable, that's a separate matter and far more subjective. I think that earlier series weren't better in that regard, but felt different because the writing style was less self-aware so it came across as more cozy and sincere. While fanservice can break immersion for many.
I can't WAIT to watch this (haven't seen any of SNW yet) but while Boimler and Mariner are brilliant actors, it's funny to see the maturity gap between characters from the 1960s and the 2020s.
@@AngelusNielson terns out theres a drink called orian hericans at the end of the show it shows pike and his crew as cartoon cariters and them freaking out about it so that means lower decks takes place in the eues of mariner how is drinking orian alcahol to make everthing cartoon like i gess
Q happened. He took a little jaunt into a nearby universe and bullied a bunch of small, pastel-colored talking horses for a few millenia. Then came back and decided he liked the simpler color scheme of that universe. I'm assuming the continuum got fed up with his antics again after that, and he was forced to snap the universe back to normal some time before Picard season one. That's why he was so low on power. Snapping the entirety of a universe into a new chromatic spectrum, twice, has to be draining even for a nigh omnipotent being.
In lower decks she always seems really angry, almost as if she hates the people around her. But in this episode she seemed so fun and happy and was obviously just joking around. I think it's just the style of animation in lower decks which doesn't quite get her actual emotions across properly. But Tawny Newsome does SO well in live action.
Dropping hints about the Bell Riots... Does that count as future knowledge because of the DS9 crew, or is it okay because technically it happened in the past?
I think technically because it hasn’t happened yet for the Pike’s Star Trek crew, it would be considered future knowledge, but it’s so oddly specific that it cancels out because all you got is a name. It’s kinda similar to how in OG Star Trek when we hear Khan’s and his backstory the eugenics wars gets brought up and in the 90s the Bosnian war happened. It’s that kind of energy.
Plus, even if someone on the _Enterprise_ opened up a book and saw Bell’s photo, the most that could happen is some history geek with a thing for the 20th century (paging Ensign Marla McGivers…!) might remark how much Bell looks like the actor who once had a TV series named “Hawk”… 😊
00:19 reference to DS9 S03E11 & S03E12 "Past Tense" Parts I & II - Sisko, Bashir, and Dax are thrown back in time by a spatial anomaly to San Francisco in the year 2024 - a dystopian city threatening to collapse under an extreme homelessness crisis. Boimler mentions the Bell Riots at 00:24, which were depicted in the aforementioned episodes.
I feel like the Lower Decks crew has always been a D&D style trek game in progress, but in this episode, I swear I could almost hear Brennan Lee Mulligan narrating.
....I can't tell which is more cringe, the line or your comment. you nu-trek fans are infantile and embarrassing, to match the level of writing on these shows
I think the funny bit about this is the fact there all use to hearing about the calm and collecteive wise spock. But never once thought there was a time he wanted be more human, and went through a roller coaster of dealing with his past truamas an the fact he half human, and half vulcan.
....This writing is TERRIBLE, on the level of bad YA novels. sounds like it was written by and for teenagers who have never seen even five minutes of actual star trek. utter trash.
Don't get me wrong I love that they are getting to meet their idol but this is a Spock at the beginning of his career. not the Federation Ambassador who got the Federation and the Klingons to sign the Khitomer Accords. or the one who tried to reunified the Vulcans and the Romulans. It would be like going back in time meeting George Washington before he became general and later President.
It's amusing to me how polarizing Lower Decks is amongst fans, and I get it. It's equal parts parody and serious (?) show. I guess the most negative reactions come from the feeling that it is disrespecting the previous shows and that it is taking the viewer out of the ST world by being too meta.
I think what I love about Lower Decks, is that we're not seeing a flagship with the best and brightest Starfleet has. The California class is where a lot of the screwups end up. This is ideal for a comedy, but it's also nice as a fan to see what other parts of the fleet look like.
Spock smiling reminds me on the one Scene in Big Bang theory Leonard: [to a "smiling" Sheldon] We're here to see Koothrappali, not kill Batman. Like Marina: Holy Fu(Peep)! We are here to find a way to get back to the Future,Not kill Kane Spock!!!😂
Hey Mariner, neither your parents nor the vast majority of your contacts have been born yet. You might want to dial it back a bit because you've got nobody to call.
the singing episode was garbage for infantilized adults, much like the rest of this trash. It all sounds like "dialogue" written for and by teenagers out of a bad YA novel.
My only “dislike” about this episode is that Boimler and Mariner are like 130 years more advanced (which Boims does show later briefly) and the SNW crew acts like they picked up a couple of 20th century dumbasses. Like, I hero worship plenty of 100ish year old people too but I know a lot more about my field than anyone did in 1923, but it’s never really shown how compared to these two trained Starfleet personally from the future, they’re all like, full on dinosaurs.
I would say it's because they are still ensigns. Like all ensigns past and present, they are going to blunder around no matter what century they're from. Also, Boimler did know how to track the Orions, so there was some future knowledge there. However, without future technology all they had was theoretical.
@@cf-4233 Yeah I suppose so. And Boims and Mariner are a lot more bumbly in appearance than other Ensigns, despite their actual competency levels being arguably exceptionally high for Ensigns/LtJGs. Still, a huge tech gap of 130ish years - especially when you consider the exponential advances growth in technological advancement, let alone by that period. Which is also sidenote why I do think we'll be out among the stars by the 23rd century - we're advancing so quickly people don't even realise it.
It's like if you took a lazy intern from your office and put them on a World War 2 allied battleship, and just assumed their advanced knowledge would somehow equip them well.
@@theevilascotcompany9255 I dunno, they’re still graduates of Starfleet Academy, Ensigns on the officers command track. It’d be more like putting a low ranking officer from todays Navy onto a ship from WW2 era at best, and that’s assuming the way “technology” as we know it has changed drastically in the last 100 years with the invention of digital computing would be so drastically dissimilar etc
Dialogue is awesome.. but the set design of the meeting room is so offensive.. it might bring back Gene Rodenberry from the dead... it is outdated even for 1999 Ikea..
Goofy Trek,... just a solid to every Gen-Whatever out there,... people in position of responsibility don't behave this way in real life and if they do somehow manage to slip past the guards and reach that destination behaving like this gets them eaten alive,.... doesn't everyone realize that the "writers" are mocking the franchise,... or trying to send a message to grow up,... is anyone really satisfied with plastic people trying to write believable dialogue,... I love Star trek,... this isn't it,... this is a joke!
Amazing how just a few years before Spock is on TOS, he is totally clueless, needs to be told everything by every person on the Enterprise, has no control of his emotions and is basically a wreck of a Vulcan.......Almost as weak as Pike, who also has to get schooled by every crew member in order to make a decision.....But Pike sure can cook.....
He is deliberately experiencing with his emotions as part of dealing with the aftermath of being forced to use them on purpose in the episode where Hemmer dies.
...man, new star trek really sucks LMAO why are all the characters written like annoying teenagers? If I wanted to listen to this kind of garbage bad-YA-novel dialogue I'd rewatch buffy the vampire slayer. Utter trash.
This is the first clip I've seen of this show....are all the characters as annoying as these two? This honestly makes me not want to watch the show at all.
Pitch Meeting : Ok imagine If Star Trek was stupid and terrible written and has a massive budget but looked worse then the 90s shows. Also girl bosses.... girl bosses everywhere!
