How I installed SR clocks in my Starlet Sportif (Rev counter) | Toyota Starlet 4efe turbo build.

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Installing late model Toyota Starlet EP91 SR Instrument cluster into my early model Starlet Sportif turbo conversion. Needed a rev counter installed in the Starlet, so was lucky enough to find a set of SR clocks from a 98-99 car. Pretty simple to swap the cluster. Only a few wires to move around to get them functioning correctly as the wiring for early EP91's (96-97) is different to late model (98-99).
P.S. The handbrake light is fine!
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@mattybyrne6203 Год назад

This is brilliant Dan your channel is class this is something I could see myself doing to my daily 1999 starlet keep up the great work

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Many thanks Matt!

@joeferreira1766 Год назад

Amazing 👏 what you're doing, I love working on car electrics 😊

@me3mary3 Год назад

Great works, keep going. You are the main info bank to turbo my Starlet, your vedios help me alot. I hope I can solve the lack of parts for me as you covered the lack of detailed information.

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Thanks very much friend 🤝. Good luck with the project.

@rollyae82 Год назад

Click goes the speedo lol... that looked a bit tedious yet job done... in the AE82 corolla, toyota just left the extra plug on the loom behind the cluster for the taco.. just plug and play... love hearing that lil one start up! well done Dan...

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Thanks hon, wiring is probably my least favourite job. Had to be proper careful of the plastic circuit board on the back as they're pretty fragile even when new. Speedo soon goes off the clock!

@kaktus910 Год назад

Sending a thumbs up from copenhagen super video, this and all the other videos .super well done continue with the good work..😋

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Thanks friend 👍

@ScuzzySera Год назад

The Sera is the same with the squeezy thing on the speedo cable. Much easier to just unclip the speedo cable like you did here.

@lostsheep1616 Год назад

I have glanza v clocks in my n/a starlet with everything fully working even though it didn't come with tachometer 😎

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Good job!

@raeh5355 3 месяца назад

Installed a Glanza V clock in my N/A Ep91....gauges seem to need some pinning as neither the fuel indicator, rev clock nor temp gauge is working........

@alexanderjordan2241 Год назад

Hi Dan! As always, love your videos mate :) Just wondering if this is exactly the same steps for wiring with setting up the Glanza clocks in my starlet. Need to get that rev counter working.

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Thanks Alex, I haven't installed Glanza clocks in an n/a starlet so can't confirm unfortunately. There is someone in this comments section that said they've done it so I'd check with them first. I have the wiring diags. for N/A clocks which I can send if you hit me up on instagram. The easiest way to get the glanza wiring is to use the plastic circuit on the back of the clocks as a guide to follow. Write down where each of the plug contacts goes to on the cluster. It's easy to trace the circuit to its bulb or gauge etc. then you have pinouts for car and cluster to swap the wires around. The only thing is, there will be no feed for the boost lights.

@lostsheep1616 Год назад

I have them in my car, including the boost lights working

@Michael-yd6qt 2 месяца назад

Hi Dan you wouldn’t happen to know where I’d get the pin out diagram for the plugs going into the back of the clocks ? Cheers

@dan91sgarage 2 месяца назад

I have the wiring diagrams for 96-97 and 98-99 RHD 4efe Starlets. Contact me on instagram if you want.

@dthx6288 Год назад

Thanks for the amazing videos! Have watched the whole series and planning to do the same to my little starlet. Can you maybe link where you bought the instrument cluster? Can't find it anywhere online, I'm based in Belgium

@dan91sgarage Год назад

I bought mine off eBay, Just randomly turned up on there one day. Only cost £25.

@dthx6288 Год назад

@@dan91sgarage alright, thanks! Ill keep looking

@finbarholohan676 9 месяцев назад

@dan91’sgarage are the starlet n/a clocks not sportif clocks same in the uk as Aus. Having trouble with a high beam signal for el54 paseo clocks in Aus?

@dan91sgarage 9 месяцев назад

Sorry Finbar, dont' know if they are different in Aus. Link to UK guide for paseo clocks in Starlet: www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/8006-how-2-fit-paseo-clocks-into-a-starlet/ Might help? Or just follow the original clocks highbeam signal wires back to the plugs on the circuit board on the back?

@jasonmurillo4063 11 дней назад

Hello Dan, I bought clocks Toyota tercel for my starlet 97, I installed it and it worked perfectly without changing the position pins But from one moment to the next the wole board stopped working☹️ Positions pins need to be changed for it to work? Sorry for my english is not perfect, greetings I am from Costa Rica your videos have helped me a lot I have the image of how to change the pins from place that you put in the video, but i have no idea how to change them to the position you recommend

@dan91sgarage 10 дней назад

The easiest way to figure it out is to compare the plastic circuit board on the back of the original clocks and new clocks. Trace down from the contact at the top to the bulb/gauge its connected to and compare. If the contacts go to different bulbs / gauges on the clocks then you need to write down the wire contacts purpose on paper for both sets and then move the necessary wires to the correct location. Not difficult, just takes time.

@matthewhade5307 8 месяцев назад

Did this on my glanza clocks but the temp guage still doesnt work and the fuel needle just went up to full. I have all the wires in the correct place any ideas?

@dan91sgarage 8 месяцев назад

This video details fitting 98 spec n/a clocks in a 96 spec car. I have never checked Glanza clocks to see if they are the same wiring swaps, but I have read online they are not. The n/a wiring loom has 2 x feeds for the water temp. gauge, one needs to be connected to the gauge. If the "spare" wire is not moved to a correct "blank" on the board it can spike the gauge I think.

@arnoldodida Год назад

Hello Dan,Where did you get the workshop manuals?

@dan91sgarage Год назад

They're just for the EP91 electronics, but I got them both from eBay and it took 2 years to find them both! They're very rare but do come up for sale some times. I use the corolla 92-97 Haynes manual for the 4efe engine build stuff and have a copy of the 5e engine rebuild manual as well for reference.

@Michael-yd6qt 4 месяца назад

Are all starlet clusters the same size ? I’ve a CD ep91 with a rev gauge I’d like to fit in my ep80 along with the loom

@dan91sgarage 4 месяца назад

As far as I can tell, the ep80 cluster is taller and more rounded and the EP91 is wide and thinner. Don't think they will fit in the different dashboard hole

@Michael-yd6qt 4 месяца назад

Thanks Dan , I have the full dash from the 91 so I might get fabricating 😂

@Jupitaaar 6 месяцев назад

hi dan i got a 96 CD it also has the clocks you installed but i thought it was factory i dont know much about them but do you know if this rev counter was in the CD model?

@dan91sgarage 6 месяцев назад

Yes, the CD spec EP91's had this style of rev counter clocks as standard as well as the SR spec models. The GLS models also had rev counter clocks with chrome surrounds on the dials.

@Jupitaaar 6 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgarage oh nice to know i have not had my car long and want to know more about them cool little cars thankyou for the information also sorry to hear about the crash yours had that sucks especially when you just built it.

@sylvainadn 5 месяцев назад

Hello dan! I did everything like the tutorial, but I have a problem with the full headlights the bulb stays on and it turns off when I put the full headlights, do you know how to solve my problem? Thanks

@dan91sgarage 5 месяцев назад

Unfortunately I can't help. Mine worked fine as shown at the end of the video.

@sylvainadn 3 месяца назад

Mine is 98´ spec I dont know if it change something

@xxdoobysanxx1234 Год назад

Mine is a 98 model, but has no rev counter, does this mean I can throw an sr or glanza one in?

@dan91sgarage Год назад

If you get a set of clocks with a rev counter from a 98/99 N/A model they should be plug and play. The Glanza clocks need a re wire afaik.

@williamjmackie Год назад

Great vid Dan, was thinking of doing this myself. But when I pulled the cluster, it appears my wiring is different to yours. Any pointers for me to find the correct wires to move?, I'm absolutely lost any help would be appreciated mate.

@dan91sgarage Год назад

The easiest way to figure it out is to compare the plastic circuit board on the back of the original clocks and new clocks. Trace down from the contact at the top to the bulb/gauge its connected to and compare. The new clocks might be plug and play. If the contacts go to different bulbs / gauges on the clocks then you need to write down the wire contacts purpose on paper for both sets and then move the necessary wires to the correct location. Not difficult, just takes time.

@williamjmackie Год назад

@Dan91's Garage Simple but amazing, gutted I didn't think of that one. Cheers for the quick reply and sound advice. I'm gonna give it a go tomorrow.

@dan91sgarage Год назад

@@williamjmackie You're welcome mate, best of luck.

@2Skills4u Год назад

Hi mate I’ve got the same clock and went to switch it but a few of my wires aren’t the same colour or some are already in the right position, everything seems to work other than my fuel gauge isn’t right and idk if my temp gauge is basically reading my fuel amount I have photos I can send

@dan91sgarage Год назад

The video shows installing clocks from a 98/99 model into a 96/97 car. The easiest way to check is to compare the plastic circuit board on the back of the original and new clocks. Trace down from the contact at the top to the bulb/gauge its connected to and compare. The new clocks maybe plug and play. What year starlet do you have? What year did the clocks come from? You can contact me on insta with the picture, I'll try and help.

@emilmadsen7878 Год назад

What was the Conclusion

@2Skills4u Год назад

@@emilmadsen7878 plug and play if you have a 98 or later starlet, dont need to change any wires about

@spark033 9 месяцев назад

this is great! exactly what i was looking for, wiring will be same with the glanza v clocks right ?

@dan91sgarage 9 месяцев назад

Unfortunately not. The glanza clocks are different and getting the rev counter to work might need a resistor in the clocks replacing according to the guide I found on UKSO. Never tried the swap myself. Its a lot easier to use N/A rev counter clocks, also the Glanza redlines at 7500 and the n/a's at 6500 so it looks a bit goofy imho.

@spark033 9 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgaragecould you post the link for the glanza convertion? Planning do to it when the clocks arive

@dan91sgarage 9 месяцев назад

@@spark033 There isn't a guide I can find that shows the pin/wire relocations. It's easy enough to work out by looking at the circuit board on the back (I've covered how to do this in some other comment responses). This was the resistor link: www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/46993-how-2-make-glanza-v-tacho-work/ Might not be necessary on all cars apparently. A guy on tik tok called @oisin_mulrooney has apprently done it to his n/a so maybe hit him up for the wiring.

@spark033 8 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgarage alright man thanks will do clocks coming in tommorow ;0

@spark033 8 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgarageglanza cluster installed mate! Got a diagram and everything works fine 5hour job really easy actually

@moeyk6407 10 месяцев назад

Hey Dan is the EL54 paseo cluster same as your SR clocks Im trying to install it in my 1999 starlet but cant find any forums since its late model

@dan91sgarage 10 месяцев назад

Never played with a Paseo cluster so can't say. All you need to do is compare the circuit boards on the back of both sets of clocks. Trace each contact to its bulb/gauge and compare the 2 sets of wiring. Write down the wires purpose and move any that are different in the loom plugs.

@moeyk6407 10 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgarage sounds like a ton of a job but either way if i move em how do i know if its in the right spot

@dan91sgarage 10 месяцев назад

@@moeyk6407 If you don't want to put the effort in (remember modifying cars IS a lot of work!), you can look for a set of 98/99 starlet rev counter clocks which will be plug and play.

@emadalkahroosi Год назад

Great. Will this this work on tercel 99 with 4efe engine?? I have the odemeter

@dan91sgarage Год назад

We didn't get the Tercel in the UK and I've never worked on one. The easiest way to figure it out is to compare the plastic circuit board on the back of the original clocks and new clocks. Trace down from the contact at the top to the bulb/gauge its connected to and compare. The new clocks might be plug and play. If the contacts go to different bulbs / gauges on the clocks then you need to write down the wire contacts purpose on paper for both sets and then move the necessary wires to the correct location. Not difficult, just takes time.

@emadalkahroosi Год назад

@@dan91sgarage ok thanks. 👍

@E.H98 Месяц назад

Is it plug and play uk model 1999 starlet se

@dan91sgarage Месяц назад

If the rev counter clocks are from a 98-99 model then yes it will be plug and play for a UK 99 se. If the rev counter clocks are from a 96-97 model then no.

@hasthikaiwantha1798 2 месяца назад

How to fix speedometer needle bouncing ??

@dan91sgarage 2 месяца назад

The square end of the cable drive or the spedometer mechanism itself is probably worn out. Or the cable drive hasn't been connected properly.

@jakobhoffman1576 3 месяца назад

How does it work with your milage?

@dan91sgarage 3 месяца назад

You can remove the entire speedometer and mileage counter from your original clocks and swap them into the new set to keep your vehicle mileage correct. It's the 2 screws on the back. Swap dial and needle from new clocks back onto old mech.

@hasthikaiwantha1798 6 месяцев назад

Does the Glanza s meter work together?

@dan91sgarage 6 месяцев назад

Never played with a Glanza S cluster so can't say. All you need to do is compare the circuit boards on the back of both sets of clocks. Trace each contact to its bulb/gauge and compare the 2 sets of wiring. Write down the wires purpose and move any that are different in the loom plugs.

@hasthikaiwantha1798 6 месяцев назад

@@dan91sgarage Since the old one does not have a rev counter, how do you find the rev counter signal wire?

@dan91sgarage 6 месяцев назад

@@hasthikaiwantha1798 The rev counter signal wire should already be in place from the factory. @4:52 Black wire, position 6, brown plug.

@alfiekennett-ju8eu Месяц назад

had any issues with temp gauges?

@dan91sgarage Месяц назад

No, mine are fine as shown in the video. There are 2 sets of temperature gauge wires. If you don't put the unused set on the "blank" contacts on the plug they will cause the gauge to go to max. And can cause problems with the fuel gauge too.

@alfiekennett-ju8eu Месяц назад

@@dan91sgaragedoesn’t go to max but sits at 3/4 of the way since old owner put these clocks in… jsut fitted new rad as well as thermostat and got temp sensor and fan switch on the way too

@squiresonwheels3249 9 месяцев назад

Is it plug and play on a 97?

@dan91sgarage 9 месяцев назад

The video shows fitting 98 spec clocks into my 97 car, they are not plug and play. The clocks are plug and play if they're from the same year spec car. If they are 96 spec clocks into 98 spec car, then wiring changes are needed. And if they're 98 spec clocks into 96 spec car then wiring changes are needed. Glanza clocks are different to n/a clocks.

@squiresonwheels3249 9 месяцев назад

@dan91sgarage So if I get a cluster from a 97, then it will plug and play on a 97 ?

@dan91sgarage 9 месяцев назад

@@squiresonwheels3249 afaik, a cluster from a 96 or 97 vehicle will be plug and play in your 97.

@cammymillard7385 Год назад

For anyone thinking of doing this themselves, ive done it a few times now. Take the steering wheel off, makes removing the clocks a thousand times easier. Take the air tunnel out after you take the trim piece from under the steering column, more space to manoeuvre Speedo cable first, squeeze the clip on the left of it as youve got your hand on it (its right side as youre sitting in the driver seat), youll feel it, push it up and out. Then unscrew the clocks from mount, pull foward and unclip the harnesses, theres enough slack on them for it. Reverse to put it back together. If you own Paseo clocks, they arent plug and play, but only 2 wires need cut and they look fantastic edit : I also believe, if you get clocks from a starlet cd or gls, they have rev counters, look identical im pretty sure and they dont need any rewiring, but dont quote me

@dan91sgarage Год назад

Just remember, that removing and installing airbags is not something to be taken lightly. If an airbag deploys it can cause serious injury which is why I chose to leave it in place. You also have the added hassle of re-aligning the steering wheel when putting it back together, although the added clearance would make the clocks removal easier as you said, I didn't think it was worth the risk / extra effort.

@finbarholohan676 9 месяцев назад

Hey mate, i know this is a pretty late reply to your comment. Do u know by any chance what wires to cut or swap on the Paseo clocks. Planning on swapping them into my 97 Starlet? Any tips would be greatly appreciated

@cammymillard7385 9 месяцев назад

@@finbarholohan676 have a look on the ukstarletowners forum, detailed how to on there. Only 1 wire needs to be extended. Most just need repinned

@samjuri 3 месяца назад

Just did it best way is to undo bottom speedo cable first from under foot well by squeezing the metal clip, then you can orient the cluster face down to get access to rest of three connectors

@SE45CX 3 месяца назад

You didn't like to remove the steering wheel for this operation? For me it is a bummer when I break plastic tabs so I prefer to remove as many pieces that are relevant to create clearance for proper removal and install. Officially Toyota recommends to remove the four 14mm bolts for the steering column mounting. With this piece hanging 50mm lower or so things are much easier. The four bolts for the steering column should be tightened back to 25 Nm.

@dan91sgarage 3 месяца назад

I didn't need to and messing with airbags can be dangerous and not something to be taken lightly. Nothing broke for me, it was just a bit fiddly. Each to their own.