This was supposed to be for last Friday but car trouble and school stuff made it a busy week and weekend, so here it is now. Still expect a new video this Friday!
@@sharkronical no one in their right mind would give France any colour than Blue, and Britain any colour than Red, same deal for the Russian Civil War one
For a moment, it seemed in more recent wars, whoever was red was on the opposing side of the United States. That seemed to be the only common trend until he pointed out the real reason.
Most people familiar with maps associate certain countries with a colour (USA and France blue, Spain yellow, Italy green). This has to do mostly with the flag's most defining colour that sets it apart or a mixed-colour (romania is purple for blue and red, germany is grey because of the old black-white, etc.)
You on know the paradox team are also form the same world as tigerstar. There are reasons for countries being associated with a certain colour and people who make maps chose those colours that a country is asociated with.
I just think of certain countries as a certain colour thanks to paradox games ottomans are light green, germany is grey, france is blue, russia is dark green etc.
I tend to think of Russia as yellowish, ottomans as blood red, Britain as red, Portugal as lime green, Spain as gold yellow, France as blue, Prussia/Germany as grey, Austria as White, Croatia as pink, Denmark as light pink, Sweden as light blue, Finland as greyish white, Norway as light magenta, Italy as dark green, Poland as pink, etc.
The ones set in stone for me are actually mostly bc of Civ4 and high school history books - but also Paradox Red: USSR, UK, Canada, Rome (sometimes Purple), Denmark, Poland (really pink but) Blue: USA, France, Scotland (Sorry PDX), Sweden Green: Italy, Ottomans, Ireland, Mexico, maaaybe Imperial Russia Yellow: Spain, China, Belgium White: Austria Grey: Germany Black: Nazi Germany Orange: Netherlands
It's kind of strange how most people, including me, always think of a specific colour for almost every country: Netherlands are orange UK is red US is dark blue Prussia is dark grey Soviets are red France is dark blue Spain/Castille is yellow Rome is purple or red Ireland is green China is yellow Modern Russia is dark green (for me at least) Third Reich is black/dark grey Belgium is yellow/orange etc.
During my mapping times, I went with the convention of Red = Agressor and Blue = Defender, and I experiment both with no distinct colors and using color schemes. Color Schemes are nice, but I've noticed they tend to become very hyper-specific over time.
I personally prefer the Paradox Color Scheme. They've gotten the colors quite spot-on in their newer games. Vic2, EU4, HOI4, Imperator, and CK3 (/ck2).
Some countries just... feel like certain colors. This is probably due in part to Paradox strategy games to be honest. England/UK - Red France - Blue Spain - Yellow Russia - Green Italy - Green Ottomans - Puke Sweden - Blue America - Light Blue Rome - Red or Purple It's just a fact.
I have not heard of _Paradox,_ but I understand your point: the UK uses red to represent itself a lot (like with the Queen's guards, or old maps of the British Empire), as does Sweden with it's blue (with the flag). In fact, as an American, I thought blue to be quite an American color, probably because of the "new constellation" that is the US flag's top-left corner.
@@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Yeah thats more historical reasoning. Paradox is a gaming company that primarily produces map-based real-time strategy. From their medieval Crusader Kings, to renaissance era Europa Universalis, to Victorian age Victoria, to WW2 era Hearts of Iron. In all these games, 90% of the countries have a standard color. And like I said in my original post, for example, England and the United Kingdom are always a red color. France is always blue, and so on. But the real life historical reasoning is also important. And your theory on blue being an American color, I can get behind.
That's a video I was actually waiting for a very long time. To be honest, I'm one of those who thought that Red represents the aggressor and Blue represents the defender, I'm disappointed that this was a misconception in the end.
I was hoping it would get into the shading of colours on your maps, especially the war maps. I know the darkest colour is controlled territory, but next darkest is ... de facto control? Then, recently conquered?
People confusing winner vs loser with good guys vs bad guys is an indication of how results of war can change the way different sides are perceived or even whole value systems.
Yeah paradox has definitely influenced my view there too. The Ottomans are light green, Prussia is grey, America is a lighter blue than he uses (which is one I more associate with France), and Argentina is a lavender color.
I find it very funny that people tended to think that the winner in blue was always the "good" one and the loser in red was always the "bad" one, just goes to show history is written by the victor.
The fact that there were people who actually thought you were coloring the civil war map Red and Blue based on Republican or Democrat political parties is actually pretty funny in a sad way. Even worse when some of them accused you of altering history or making propaganda, pretty bizarre reaction that I had not noticed.
Cool. I normally use various colours, when it calls for several different ones - just starting from a basic colour at Paint's palette and then clicking "edit colour" to create different shades of pinks, greens etc. for each nations. Two or three colours I normally use to represent competing alliances etc., mostly at the various *imaginary* maps I have always enjoyed creating (such as The Hittite Empire, Bavaria, Slovakia, Spain and Scotland, for example, allied against Russia, Hamburg, York, Burgundy and Poland-Estonia... 😉🙃).
It’s not so difficult, really. All you need is Windows Movie maker and either regular paint or paint.NET. In the latter programs, you manually make each slide of the war and save them. After you have done all images/slides, you put them after eachother in movie maker in the right order.
I usually uk-red spain-yellow/orange france/us-blue, prussia/germany-black, russia empire green, uSsr red, modern russia blue, Italy green. If I have two countries with the same color they would be different shades like the uk and ussr I would make the uk a darker red while the soviet that classic Soviet red.if they have puppet State the color would be a slightly lighter color of the original.
The Winner-Looser rule doesnt seem to apply to the Vietnam war or Napoleonic wars or the spanish civil war. Red being the worse side seems to be accurate more often. Good vs bad is also the association most people have with these colors. To me it seems like you chose colors without thinking about it, intuitively chose blue for good and red for bad and now you made up this to have an most of the time accurate explanation that doesnt have political bias. But thats just speculation.
I think I first heard the red = loser and blue = winner reasoning for colouring on a video about france losing I think, where france was red, which is weird since france is 99% of the time depicted as blue, the choice makes sense though and it is good to be consistent
What about blue and dark gray for the civil war? Although the CSA war kind of a bluish gray uniform while the union were a more darker blue. This would often cause confusion on the battlefield
This color rule that he uses also can be used to describe the U.S. Presidential elections in: 1856 1884 1892 1912 1916 1932 1936 1940 1944 1948 1960 1964 1976 1992 1996 2008 2012 2020
I dunno if you would. But would you do a redo of your WW2 in Europe video? Put more detail into that one like showing cities & stuff. See the difference between 2013 to 2020 or 2021
The different shades represent the different types of territories that are aligned with a side. The darkest represents a sovereign state, while the lightest usually represents the most recent territorial gains. Colors in between represent other territories that are under some degree of control by one of the sovereign states (puppet states, satellites, occupied zones, etc.)
Napoleonic wars do use that scheme. France loses in the end. Also, the communists of the Russian civil war is red because it would be silly otherwise. Korea has no winner, so red = attack blue = defend. Communist Vietnam is red because read Russian civil war.
You may also just use the historic colours of countries based on their pre-WW1 uniforms. France = Blue Britain = Red Germany = Prussian Blue or Grey Austria = White Netherlands = Orange Spain = Yellow Russia = Green etc.
Hey Tigerstar, would you mind sharing your custom map color scheme with me, as well as the map templates you use? I'd like to make my own animated maps in a similar style to yours.
I didn't know the "tacos" scheme. On what basis were the colors chosen? To say, the color of the Savoy (and of Italy) is Savoy blue: on the basis of what was the green chosen? Thanks for the info.
@@alexanderthompson7164 The problem is that even if there is also green, it alone does not represent anything if it is not together with white and red. These three colors should go together to represent Italy. In the case of only one color, Italians identify themselves with blue. And only with blue. Before it was a republic, the symbol of the monarchy had no green stripe, it was a white cross on a red field surrounded by blue. In fact, the royal house color is Savoy blue. Blue established itself as a national color and still is in the republic today. In short, Italy's national color has always been just blue.
For me: USA is blue Brazil is earth green Argentina is sky blue / fog UK is light pink / 'permission' France is steel blue Spain is CGA brown Portugal is mint green Italy is swamp green Netherlands is orange Germany is Grey USSR and China are Red
Thanks for this video! Can anyone explain exactly what the different shades mean for each color? I think I understand for the most part but was wondering if someone could clarify.
You on know the paradox team are also form the same world as tigerstar. There are reasons for countries being associated with a certain colour and people who make maps chose those colours that a country is asociated with.
@@justanotheremptychannel2472 Well, apart from some of the really obscure conflicts in South America, I can't remember any where he spoilered me. There are some conflicts in ancient times he covered which I didn't know of (or didn't know who won), but there he didn't use red/blue ...
@@justanotheremptychannel2472 I didn't suggest otherwise. I just said, that for most conflicts where he actually applied this color scheme, most people with at least some education would know the outcome. All the historic conflicts I remember watching here didn't use it. And almost every large conflict which happened anywhere on the world and occurred less than 200 years ago should be more or less common knowledge ... I personally had some deficits in the South American region though, as I already admitted. I wouldn't expect people to know why it took place or what exactly happened. But who won is often featured in films and/or played a big role in later conflicts, so people have some reference. History isn't just random events. Conflicts often have a long history. Most people I met all over the world aren't as ignorant as you suggest they are. At least outside of Northern America that is ...
how i would assign a color to a country (europe only) a bit of rules first: 1. communist countries get a shade of red 2. fascist countries get a darker shade of their normal color ok lets begin: German Group: (oh boi) Germany/Prussia/German Empire: Grey Saxony: Very Dark Green Bavaria: Cyan Rhineland/Confed. of the Rhine: Lime Hannover: Light Red Mecklenburg: Light Gold Brandenburg: Darker Maroon Pomerania: Darker Teal Silesia: Olive Thuringia: Light Blue Baden: Peach Wurttemburg: Light Gray Austria: White Austria- Hungary: Tan Liechtenstein: Dark Indigo Switzerland: Red H.R.E: Lighter Yellow French Group: France: Navy Brittany: Black Occutania: Dark Red Benelux Group: Netherlands: Orange Belgium: Yellow Luxembourg: Pink Iberia: Spain: Dark Yellow Portugal: Green Catalonia: Gold Italy: Italy: Dark Green Piedmont, Sardinia: Lavender Venice: Red-Orange Genoa: Black Naples/Sicily: Light Olive Tuscany: Red-Violet Papal States: Ivory The Balkans: Greece: Light Blue Serbia/Yugoslavia: Dark Blue Macedonia: Light Yellow Albania: Dark Red-Violet Bulgaria: Dark Green Romania: Gold Transylvania: Dark Orange Hungary: Light Orange Slovenia: Light Purple Croatia: Light Red Bosnia: Navy Scandinavia: Denmark: Darker Red Norway: Maroon Sweden: Blue Finland: Periwinkle Iceland: Lighter Dark Blue Eastern Europe: Poland: Dark Pink Lithuania: Indigo Estonia: Dark Cyan Latvia: Dark Red-Orange Czechia: Teal Slovakia: Dark Periwinkle
Red vs Blue...Hey. Yeah? You ever wonder why were here? It’s one of life’s great mysteries isn’t it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don’t know, man. But it keeps me up at night. :........... What?! I mean why are we out here, in this canyon! lol, I couldnt help but think of that series the whole time you were talkin. Bro, I think this is a good opportunity to troll and trigger the heck out of people with the most random colors. Lets make US rainbow and Russia blue.
