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How Jesus Became God - UCC Part 1 of 3 

Bart D. Ehrman
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On the dates January 29-31, 2016, Bart D. Ehrman gave three separate lectures to attendees, a series that highlighted his book, "How Jesus Became God." Rev. Megan Smith opened each session for the local parishioners and pastoral staff at Coral Gables Congregational Church located at 3010 De Soto Boulevard, Coral Gables, Florida.
Apologize in advance for the video quality, where what was provided was of very poor quality.
Lecture 1 • How Jesus Became God -...
Lecture 2 • How Jesus Became God -...
Lecture 3 • How Jesus Became God -...
Program discussed on Bart Ehrman's Foundation Blog: ehrmanblog.org/?p=10888
Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies. A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude.
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@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 3 года назад
As a non believer Dr Ehrman understands the bible better than those who profess to believe it. Excellent exposition.
@BR-ur2gk
@BR-ur2gk 3 года назад
I have watched so many of these lectures that now I'm dying to see how good dinner at the Armadillo Grill is - I'm picturing endless grilled fish and bottomless bread loves with a water fountain that produces the finest wine
@jkryanspark
@jkryanspark 4 года назад
I enjoy Dr. Ehrman's teaching style. He seems accessible and not at all full of himself. His sense of humor is a plus.
@kobe51
@kobe51 3 года назад
Jesus never wrote a word down. Let that really sink in...
@DocZom
@DocZom 8 лет назад
Thank you Dr. Ehrman for posting these lectures. You could have instead sold DVDs to cash in like a televangelist, but you chose to spread knowledge for its own sake. Wonderful.
@nishuee9349
@nishuee9349 8 лет назад
+DocZom I would've definitely bought them.
@finauseruvakula2773
@finauseruvakula2773 6 лет назад
DocZom so true
@finauseruvakula2773
@finauseruvakula2773 6 лет назад
Mr Ehrman Thank you so much...grew up in a Mission school in Fijis Christian dominant religon. Went to missionary school for twelve years...I joined an interdenominational. organization......from the on set I kept accumulating questions I wasn't allowed to ask or for someone to at least help me out of .. Your excerpts and lectures had not only answered those tough questions but but sense of God. I knew there was inconsistency and error and slot of cut and paste but no one to confide in. Thanks.no more theistic clustrophobic shit.
@marymcreynolds8355
@marymcreynolds8355 6 лет назад
DocZom Bing!
@adrianjanssens7116
@adrianjanssens7116 6 лет назад
Conratulations. Good to read this.
@Phobos_Anomaly
@Phobos_Anomaly 8 лет назад
These three videos represent one of your best lectures, Professor Ehrman. Your case is logical, rational, evidences by the facts, and plausible. Thank you very much for these fantastic videos!
@VlogsNiKuyang
@VlogsNiKuyang 4 года назад
you handled the topic well sir...you lectured in a very civil and profesional way, without really hurting anybody or anyone...that it became so acceptable and so convincing.
@davidk5954
@davidk5954 3 года назад
Hey, islam is not right either.
@romanakhan4075
@romanakhan4075 3 года назад
@@davidk5954 he didn’t even mention Islam. He just said that it is so nice to see someone explaining that pagan concept of ‘God coming to Earth in human form’ can not be attributed to Jesus Christ. It was said on his behalf much later.
@SubvertTheState
@SubvertTheState 4 года назад
I love that dry delivery haha, " I am da vine, you are da branches" -crickets-
@roybroussard514
@roybroussard514 3 года назад
Good one 4sho🤣
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH 3 года назад
HERE is The ORIGINAL Semitic Text. HERE is The REAL SAVIOR YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@bceoofcharlescultandmember2428
@bceoofcharlescultandmember2428 4 года назад
I have learned so much from Bart. I am an atheist/agnostic. For anyone who wants to really get into the reasons for their skepticism, who wants to defend their unbelief, Bart's teachings will give them a firm foundation. Thanks for all you do Bart
@joshortiz1137
@joshortiz1137 5 лет назад
I love that he laughs at his own jokes. love the sense of humor
@diannemarshall9318
@diannemarshall9318 4 года назад
He is laughing at mocking God. This will not abode well for him. By the way, he is a self proclaimed antagonist, and has publicly said in debates that he does not believe in any god...therefore in my book he is an atheist, of which in one debate with D'Souza he did say, that made him an atheist. So why on earth would anyone listen to him on God and the Bible....his mission is to mock and put down those of faith and blaspheme the Holy Word of God through vain philosophy and deceit of his father Satan. The man is a scab and he is the devil's mouth piece. Reply
@colinc892
@colinc892 4 года назад
@@diannemarshall9318 Why listen him? Because studying the bible in context is what MADE him an atheist. Most atheists are former Christians who really took the time to research and investigate their beliefs. I'm another example of that. Atheists often understand the bible much more than believers in my experience.
@douglaspouch5313
@douglaspouch5313 3 года назад
I was a bit worried at 39:55 when Dr Ehrman stated that "Jewish apocalypticists said the end was imminent" and immediately looked at his watch.
@Juliet_Capulet
@Juliet_Capulet 3 года назад
😂
@vnekliaev
@vnekliaev 7 лет назад
A brilliant lecture, one of his best. Even if you don't agree with everything he says, it is a pleasure to listen.
@1pichucho
@1pichucho 5 лет назад
Very pleasant presentation. I was already convinced but you opened my eyes even more. I can see now how we'been lied to all this time. Thks!
@postofficecb808
@postofficecb808 4 года назад
An extremely fascinating and illuminating series of lectures on a topic that is often unknown or misunderstood, delivered by a great speaker with a serious and sincere interest in academic study. Thank you!
@ampatau9092
@ampatau9092 7 лет назад
It's certainly great to have these videos to enjoy and broaden my meager education... thank you.
@joemills3654
@joemills3654 5 лет назад
This could all have been avoided if only the Romans had some decent copyright laws. :-b
@jimmnunbodle
@jimmnunbodle 4 года назад
@stefan God to come up with a reliable source? Does He rely in humans to relay down his reliability? Beats me
@kiakiaification
@kiakiaification 4 года назад
Lol
@imagin.e.ternity
@imagin.e.ternity 4 года назад
@Stefan Urban guess what? Im God. I exist. You can take my word for it. Jesus realized he was God, and you can too.
@angelgirldebbiejo
@angelgirldebbiejo 4 года назад
Ha!
@brenosantana1458
@brenosantana1458 4 года назад
@@imagin.e.ternity you are not. He didn't.
@blubberbooty
@blubberbooty 7 лет назад
I really love your videos. My eyes have been opened. I was raised in the kookiest, most fundamental religion you could imagine.
@blubberbooty
@blubberbooty 7 лет назад
***** I was almost as bad as snake handling. Thank God snake handling was illegal in Ohio. We were still in the holy roller, running up and down the aisles, rolling in the floor, speaking in tongue Nuts!
@soslothful
@soslothful 7 лет назад
Check out his many recorded lecture available through the Teaching Company.
@Morewecanthink
@Morewecanthink 7 лет назад
+Randall Gordon - Following the 'Yeah, hath God said?" opens the eyes to realize that you are naked and poor. There is no valid foundation for man to decide truth. If man want to decide about God's word he is mistaken. God's word decides about man. Only God's word is truth. There is no other valid point of reference. You should not follow a false teacher. Read John 10.
@DanielBrownsan
@DanielBrownsan 7 лет назад
+Morewecanthink Everything you said demonstrates the very nature of "kookiest, most fundamental religion". Think for yourself.
@josephtsangmangkin7567
@josephtsangmangkin7567 6 лет назад
Randall Gordon hh
@eljumaidilbinahmad5403
@eljumaidilbinahmad5403 5 лет назад
What I most like about Prof Ehrman is his "truthfulness/honesty."
@garystevenson5560
@garystevenson5560 4 года назад
COME AND SEE US IN MONTREAL, QUEBEC. Satan once asked me if God would go to Hell as a human. God made me answer: I did. +++ I am not God though, far from being God. Jesus' granma was named Anne, his mother, Marie, his father, Joseph, his apostles, Jean, Pierre, Simon. etc Israel has a white and blue flag and is among foreign nations. French Québec has a white and blue flag and is among English nations. I am a quebéquois. Read on you will be truly astonished. Alif Laam Meem is Isa, son of God. Alif Laam Râ are daughters and sons of God.
@AdonaiZedek
@AdonaiZedek 4 года назад
Honest but he wont tell you about original manuscripts and keeps saying JEsus but there is no J in Hebrew at the time. There also is no biblical manuscript with yehoshua Yehsua or any variation with proof
@kiakiaification
@kiakiaification 4 года назад
@@AdonaiZedek kan
@shawnchong8468
@shawnchong8468 5 лет назад
Dr. Erhman has given a very scholarly account of the perceived identity of Jesus Christ.
@mildredmartinez8843
@mildredmartinez8843 5 лет назад
I have read several of your books and enjoyed then thoroughly. Your vídeos hsve helped me understand several doubts. Thabks for putting then con vídeo. Look forward to more.
@spsmith1965
@spsmith1965 8 лет назад
Prof Ehrman, Thanks very much for uploading these talks. Much appreciated.
@raysalmon6566
@raysalmon6566 5 лет назад
Why its misinformation
@pinball1970
@pinball1970 5 лет назад
@@raysalmon6566 Why is it misinformation? What are you afraid of? Scholarship? Facts?
@cramerlong2276
@cramerlong2276 5 лет назад
@@pinball1970 Don't you listen? He says there's no reference to Jesus being God in Matthew Mark and Luke. Yet without Looking I can think of Matthews Immanuel (God with us verse) I can think of Jesus words to Pilate *For this reason I have chosen to come into the world* Or where Jesus says in Matthew 7 . On that day many will come to me saying Lord Lord did we not etc etc in your name ??? This is why it's disinformation *IN MARK and LUKE* We find the Rich young Ruler : We find Jesus Telling about Returning , The end of the World , That in his Father's house are many mansions> *I have believed only a Short 8 years* This dis-information agenda is part of teh reason why
@gloryofthemessiah8771
@gloryofthemessiah8771 5 лет назад
Who has the Authority to: ************************** 1. Be the Lord of the Sabbath 2. Forgive sin 3. Give LIFE (He is the Life) 4. Condemn 5. Tell us to ask is His Name 6. Comand the angels 7. Say that He is The TRUTH 8. Be everywhere at the same time 9. Say that He is God the Saviour and tge Redeemer 10. The Holy One ( without sin). 11. Accepted worship. 12. Say He and His Father are one 13. Create 14. Say that He is the Word of God who's not been created 15. Know others' thinking. 16. Say that He Answer prayers 17. Said that He will never leave us 18. Say that He is the Everlasting king of righteousness who Reign and His throne is forever and forever 19. Say that He is (the Divine I AM) 20. Say that He is The Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last (eternal nature) If you can find the answers from the Bible then Jesus is God in Flesh🌹
@tahliah6691
@tahliah6691 5 лет назад
@@raysalmon6566 it's not misinformation look up arianism and the nicene council.....all non hebrew foreigners
@nedthumberland
@nedthumberland 8 лет назад
Dr. Ehrman, thank you for all that you've done.
@1thailover
@1thailover 4 года назад
@qb Gromit from his study your churchs & preists are deceiving all christians. we should thank him for exposing all the lies church/preist for 1700 years. he is more 1000x knowledeable than you and your preist/pastor
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 3 года назад
qb Gromit LOL. Whatever dude. Whatever.
@evajd6971
@evajd6971 7 лет назад
Wow I just got the book "How Jesus became God" and I'm watching the lectures here to follow with it. It's amazing.
@nikolaynikolov2429
@nikolaynikolov2429 3 года назад
man I wouldn't I like to take a look at professor's Ehrman entry quiz.
@pabmusic1
@pabmusic1 7 лет назад
I don't know how often you read the feedback, but I have found your books and you talks fascinating. Thank you.
@roybradshaw4252
@roybradshaw4252 4 года назад
I THINK JESUS WWAS NOT TALKING ABOUT NOW BUT WHEN THE ROMANS WOULD BE DESTROYD AND THE OPRESSED WOULD BE FREED
@paolavega2400
@paolavega2400 3 года назад
Me too.
@pr4182
@pr4182 3 года назад
Me three!
@soslothful
@soslothful 3 года назад
Be sure to check out his several lecture series offered by The Teaching Company.
@Zulu369
@Zulu369 5 лет назад
Excellent talk. Excellent orator.
@McLKeith
@McLKeith 5 лет назад
Thanks Dr. Ehrman for publishing this informative lecture.
@robind.phillips2129
@robind.phillips2129 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your lectures.
@Henri79
@Henri79 8 лет назад
What a treat! I've been reading Ehrman's book of the same name and would recommend it without reservation to anyone interested in early Christianity. Time to grab some coffee, can't wait to hear these lectures!
@marymcreynolds8355
@marymcreynolds8355 6 лет назад
Algernon79 Now try Ken Humphreys and ask yourself if Jesus even existed.
@helmutgensen4738
@helmutgensen4738 4 года назад
"Jumping in an open grave" was my first impression of Church & Bible as a 12 year-old refugee from the GDR in 1967. At 5 I had vowed to find out how & why we came to be. In 1995 our wedding gift was a large illustrated KJV that I scoured to find a name for our first baby. Living in the jungle on the Far North Coast of Australia, I prayed that God would send someone to teach me the Bible. The very next morning, a carload of JWs pulled up outside our mountain retreat and gave us private Bible studies once a week. In the end we were weirded out by this: "You mean, the same sermon is preached in every Kingdom Hall all over the world?". We were also surrounded by vegetarian SDAs who claimed to go to heaven by keeping the Sabbath - Sunday keepers were the Church of Satan. We were invited to the mansion of the SDA high priest (forgot his name) whose son had recently suicided. On this particular Sabbath, a tradesman arrived to collect his money. So the SDA high priest gave him an envelope with a cheque & instructions "Don't open it til Monday!" to keep the Sabbath Law. Belated, he then drove us all to Church as fast as he could, collecting a $200 speeding fine on the way.... to cut a long story, in 2000 I completed 4 years Theology, Ministry & Evangelism at an Australian Baptist college struggling to apply my own independent critical thinking. I ended up working in cancer research instead but listening to you Dr Ehrman, this little apocalyptic light of mine came back on. Although I believe it is unhealthy to be a pessimist at heart, my optimism is constantly under threat by dictatorships, global warming etc. I will keep listening to you with the expectation of something good to believe in. Thanks
@Bazzo61
@Bazzo61 4 года назад
Absolutely brilliant. The depth of knowledge is astounding. Looking forward to watching the rest in this series as well as many other of your lectures.
@slicgreendueler4884
@slicgreendueler4884 5 лет назад
I wish I could get my Mormon family to watch these lectures with an open mind
@tracyavent-costanza346
@tracyavent-costanza346 5 лет назад
good luck with that.
@janetboyter6238
@janetboyter6238 5 лет назад
Mormons are a cult, not true Christianity.
@ihatespam2
@ihatespam2 4 года назад
Janet Boyter that’s what all religions say about each other. With equally poor defense of why theirs is any more believable.
@menace2societies
@menace2societies 4 года назад
Darren McGovern yeah they tell you don’t believe in other God’s, all religions always say
@jamesdurpington8619
@jamesdurpington8619 4 года назад
It wouldn't make any difference, most Mormons already accept that there are tons of problems with the Bible, which is one reason many other Christian groups condemn them. Most of this stuff is conjecture, which is why he constantly says "I think... xyz". He could be wrong about lots of stuff, just like everyone else. To claim he's the ultimate authority would be silly anyway. Besides, Mormons believe there was a great Apostasy, so they would attribute much of this confusion to the fact that people have lost their way, not to mention the cycles of the Jewish thinkers being influenced by the same. Each time they reject the biblical prophets they sink into all kinds of conflicting ideas and beliefs, which is why new prophets appear to correct the errors, but they too are rejected and killed. At the end of the day, I say let people believe what they want and feel how they want, so long as their beliefs aren't violating the rights of others. If they are happy being Mormon, or Catholic, or Hindu, or Atheist, let them be and live their own lives and stop trying to make everyone conform to your ideals.
@justinkatsel8927
@justinkatsel8927 3 года назад
Mathew 1:22-23 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: “behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel.” which is translated, “God with us”. It only took reading the first chapter in Mathew to refute his claim that the other Gospels don’t say Jesus is God.
@rolandpreder4594
@rolandpreder4594 5 лет назад
Jason I finished the Q & A session for part one and enjoyed it. You find this facinating because of History. I find it facinating from Theology. Prophecy is a passion of mine and from my viewpoint prophecy is history past, present, and future.
@tracyavent-costanza346
@tracyavent-costanza346 5 лет назад
if we use the term "eternity" we do have to account for past present AND future.
@insanisstultitia3119
@insanisstultitia3119 7 лет назад
Thank you for the civil and rational lecture.
@garystevenson5560
@garystevenson5560 4 года назад
COME AND SEE US IN MONTREAL, QUEBEC. Satan once asked me if God would go to Hell as a human. God made me answer: I did. +++ I am not God though, far from being God. Jesus' granma was named Anne, his mother, Marie, his father, Joseph, his apostles, Jean, Pierre, Simon. etc Israel has a white and blue flag and is among foreign nations. French Québec has a white and blue flag and is among English nations. I am a quebéquois. Read on you will be truly astonished. Alif Laam Meem is Isa, son of God. Alif Laam Râ are daughters and sons of God.
@bilaal3488
@bilaal3488 4 года назад
@@garystevenson5560 you're talking absolute jibberish, especially the Arabic part.
@colinc892
@colinc892 4 года назад
@Wolfbitn Videos you skipped straight to the end?
@HERCOBULYable
@HERCOBULYable 7 лет назад
I love your videos, Dr Bart Ehrman. Thank you very much.
@jackwilmoresongs
@jackwilmoresongs 3 года назад
I was brought up as a child in a liberal Presbyterian atmosphere of higher criticism, social gospel, and magnanimous humanism. But God was somewhat real personally but I could never get the relationship between Father and Son. Then entering into junior high, highschool, and early college I totally blacked out to any relationship with God. I found ..um .. other things that interested me in the 60s. Jesus became GOD to me the night I came out of my amnesia by His mercy. And I called out "Jesus, I'm tired. Take me home Jesus" humbled to the uttermost. No professors were around and I didn't know the NT at all. THAT night, to me, I know that Jesus became God. He's been God ever since. And I am sure He will remain God to me unto eternity. Thanks for reading.
@anonymousjohnson976
@anonymousjohnson976 4 года назад
I have always thought that words were put into Jesus' mouth by people who wanted to further their own agenda.
@markmooroolbark252
@markmooroolbark252 4 года назад
What are some of the words which would have furthered anyone's agenda?
@ihatespam2
@ihatespam2 4 года назад
mark mooroolbark the rich man into heaven bit is claimed by the poorest disciple and ignored by the richer one.
@agimasoschandir
@agimasoschandir 4 года назад
@@markmooroolbark252 "And Jesus said 'If you don't have an AR-15, sell your coat and buy one' " -- Luke 22:36 Parody or modern translation?
@tazboy1934
@tazboy1934 3 года назад
@@agimasoschandir sword
@freshuchiha2576
@freshuchiha2576 3 года назад
Duhhh. (Lol I mean that in a friendly way)
@flatoutt1
@flatoutt1 5 лет назад
just love love love these lectures . in my search to try and wade through all these teachings to get some truth ,this is a fantastic source . thanks so much.you zoom out and give me a clearer picture of the whole story and certainly helps with my confusion. big thanks to Rev. Megan Smith & staff
@stevenwebb6253
@stevenwebb6253 5 лет назад
John 14:28 Jesus says the Father is greater than I am.
@traviswilliams7276
@traviswilliams7276 5 лет назад
Steven Webb the spirit is greater than the flesh!!!
@tracyavent-costanza346
@tracyavent-costanza346 5 лет назад
i can't think of a better case for hetero-ousianism.
@beateberg5535
@beateberg5535 4 года назад
@@traviswilliams7276 amen i always say that what you wrote
@livinia296
@livinia296 3 года назад
John 14:28 NO!!! JESUS SAYS THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. Not I am.
@zarreen5467
@zarreen5467 3 года назад
So Jesus is not god? I dont understand the trinity. it makes no sense
@InayetHadi
@InayetHadi 8 лет назад
Yes! this is what I am talking about RE: uploading new and current talks. keep it up.
@michaelcrone2333
@michaelcrone2333 3 года назад
Interesting and original thinking. Keep it coming. Thanks
@hayelgdn1406
@hayelgdn1406 4 года назад
I did really want to learn about Issa (Jesus) peace upon him... and you dr. made it enjoyable and clear. So historically... He didn't claim divinity, nor constructing a new religion. Furthermore he was not crucified, nor killed (at that event particularly). May you all find truth, so it shall set you free.
@adrianjanssens7116
@adrianjanssens7116 6 лет назад
I keep waiting for someone in the audience to cry bloody murder over the fact that he is debunking the whole god routine. These lectures are worth watching, even though I became a non-believer many years ago. I feel better about everything.
@janetboyter6238
@janetboyter6238 5 лет назад
He's not "debunking" anything. What he's saying isn't true at all and can't be proven.
@johncahill3018
@johncahill3018 5 лет назад
Fascinating lecture, I never bothered to read the Book of Revelation since it was clearly crazy from the first few lines. Now I understand all these bizarre Southern Christian types with their obsession with the devil. In a previous lecture Dr Ehrman explains the added passages at the end of Mark...that explains Evangelicals and their strange obsession with poison and snakes. Things might have been much better if James hadn't published the Bible in the first place.
@fairweatherfriends.
@fairweatherfriends. 4 года назад
John Cahill Na ya just gotta read thru the bullshit and into the Rama word. The parts of the book that are alive ( divinely inspired ) are the parts to read.
@c.6452
@c.6452 8 лет назад
I like the bit about Mr Ehrman's rock star status because I am a huge fan! I also highly recommend Dale B. Martin. Super entertaining AND clever at the same time.
@brucenadeau1912
@brucenadeau1912 8 лет назад
Prof Martin is kick ass! I've watched his Yale courses many a time, and love he's gay and Christian, in the fundies faces! :D
@charlesmichaels6648
@charlesmichaels6648 5 лет назад
@@brucenadeau1912 Dale B Martin is another deceiver (Anti-Christ).
@godibertkellygharbin
@godibertkellygharbin 5 лет назад
Dr. Ehrman has undoubtedly worked in this field for a long time and is a great scholar; my problem however, is the inconsistencies l find in his arguments sometimes . He has argued in many presentations that "we don't know what Jesus said; everything is lost ". Interestingly, he's indicating here (46) that there are ways scholars (including himself) can know what Jesus said in the "Son of Man sayings "by using the same accounts he has consistently claimed cannot help us to know what Christ said because "they are problematic ".
@joecaner
@joecaner 6 лет назад
(19:11) Anyone who believes that oral tradition spanning 40-60 years had preserved the actual sayings of Jesus before being written down never played telephone as a child.
@DannyAGray
@DannyAGray 5 лет назад
I find this puzzling, considering that modern society is incredibly lazy when it comes to relaying messages or storytelling. People back then needed near-perfect oral traditions. Too compare people today to people back then is not logical.
@grasonicus
@grasonicus 5 лет назад
The telephone game purposefully tries to distort the message. One cannot ask the person to repeat himself. One cannot do additional research. Your analogy is flawed.
@DouglasHPlumb
@DouglasHPlumb 5 лет назад
Christs message was simple and always relevant, not easily lost.
@charlierose3351
@charlierose3351 5 лет назад
True, but anybody who believes people in a literate culture spent 40-60 years not writing any of their religious records down is being decidedly thoughtless, in my opinion. I think Bart Ehrman lets himself down on that point.
@theofulk5636
@theofulk5636 5 лет назад
As clever as that may sound, it is both false and vindictive against the actual truth--- The Mishnah, the Oral Tradition of Judaism, had such a perfect consistency and integrity that it totally PRECEDED the written Bible--- and that same Hebrew Bible has NO VARIANTS in the world. Such venom sounds logical, but it is really based in vulgar hearsay.
@kristideanda9293
@kristideanda9293 3 года назад
This is exactly how I was wanting to look at the Bible!
@beastshawnee4987
@beastshawnee4987 3 года назад
where I was raised people actually believe the bible WAS written in English and only by God’s holy hand and that the book is magical and does not need to be read. You have to believe in the magic and reading it might spoil that so JUSt BELIEVE or go to hell.
@jimmnunbodle
@jimmnunbodle 4 года назад
Enlightening,, ain't it? Eye opening to those who never really understood the Jesus in the Bible
@elainegoad2111
@elainegoad2111 4 года назад
Absolutely Brilliant ! Open mined congregation at a Congregational "Church". Thank you Dr. Ehrman !
@richardmorgan3938
@richardmorgan3938 4 года назад
Those quotations at the beginning of the lecture, from John's gospel, can be easily explained without saying they mean Jesus is God. For instance, John 10:30 - "I and my father are one". In John 17 that same idea is applied to the disciples. They are also one with God and Jesus. Are they God too? No. You can go through each of the other ones and dismiss the idea that teach Jesus is God.
@abortretryfail9350
@abortretryfail9350 4 года назад
@Blaster Master Couldn't agree more, there's _a lot_ of context to ignore too, like, _thousands_ of years worth. The "flock", don't generally read though, (hell, not even their "good books"). It's really hard to look at all that history, and all the gods that came before _this_ one, and conclude it's anything but man made nonsense. "Oh no, but _this_ one, is the *real* one, no _really",_ ugh! _Will the real "god" please stand up?_ I can't even quite get my mind around the fact that SO MANY people, _still_ believe it is literal truth, it's very "Matrix-y", like they're all living in a dream world. I find religion terrifying, for that reason, that it mesmerizes so many, is just flat scary.
@LIVERZ
@LIVERZ 4 года назад
True, if you carry on with the context in john 10:30 he rejects the accusation the jews gave him when they said he claimed he is god, jesus quotes psalm to show that's not what he meant at all
@markmooroolbark252
@markmooroolbark252 4 года назад
@@abortretryfail9350 I find belief in a material world that emerged from nothing equally nonsensical. It comes down to a matter of what rocks your boat. I wouldn't stay on my high horse regarding belief.
@danielfazlan4769
@danielfazlan4769 4 года назад
@Doge di Amalfi Wait what you just quoted me were verses from PAUL who we ALL know wasn't an actual of disciple of Jesus
@ColonelEmpire
@ColonelEmpire 4 года назад
Hebrews 1:6 God the Father told the angels to worship Jesus. Why? Because Jesus is God. Hebrews 1:8 God the Father called Jesus "God". Why? Because Jesus is God. The trinity (Godhead) is Biblical. Jesus is God. Jesus is the Creator. Try applying Proverbs 3:5, 6 here....and then remember Jeremiah 17:9. Your heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.... Trust God not the silly "Ehrman"
@saudfale7579
@saudfale7579 6 лет назад
How simple explained everything and only people who honestly care about them self will look for the truth
@tracyavent-costanza346
@tracyavent-costanza346 5 лет назад
i hesitate to call it "simple" but it is rather compelling.
@cliffp.8396
@cliffp.8396 3 года назад
Fascinating lecture
@michaelkarton904
@michaelkarton904 6 лет назад
This is brilliant, accessible, beautifully organized. I understand more from this triple whammy than I knew before, and I was not ignorant I. Many thanks
@cyaneyed7146
@cyaneyed7146 8 лет назад
Superb
@jmoad8743
@jmoad8743 3 года назад
That is brilliant!
@honorquest
@honorquest 5 лет назад
Kudos to the family that bought that farm, I wouldiuld have too.
@jhunz23
@jhunz23 3 года назад
Your books in Audible are awesome!
@sharonhall1067
@sharonhall1067 4 года назад
Excellent. Such a good teacher.
@tomecrawford
@tomecrawford 4 года назад
Excellent !
@JonathanSinclair-zx
@JonathanSinclair-zx 7 лет назад
Prof Ehrman, great work as always. I totally missed the point about Judas being one of the 12 rulers of Israel until you brought it up. Thanks for the edification.
@bijo720
@bijo720 3 года назад
Great lecturer
@LesHaskell
@LesHaskell 4 года назад
88 Reasons for Knowing the Rapture will be in 1988! I still have my copy. I thought it might be important in the future.
@AsadKhan-ghalibmeer
@AsadKhan-ghalibmeer 4 года назад
May be for 2088
@ibrahimbaghdadi4995
@ibrahimbaghdadi4995 3 года назад
@@AsadKhan-ghalibmeer lol
@5T4RSCREAM233
@5T4RSCREAM233 8 лет назад
Good lecture... I learned something new about the words man and "son of man" - Thanks
@matthewpoteet8876
@matthewpoteet8876 6 лет назад
Rabbi Tovi Singer says in the Old Testament "son of man" means that person is a mortal, human, will die, not a divine or angelic being.
@simplybows1
@simplybows1 6 лет назад
I still don't understand why he's called "son of man" ? .. and "son of god" .. can you help me lol
@thistle_boy
@thistle_boy 5 лет назад
In my understanding, "son of god" refers to a righteous person, someone devoted to God. In Psalms Ch. 2, God says to David, "You are my son, this day I have begotten you." Elsewhere in the Hebrew bible, Ephraim, Israel, Ezra, and others are referred to as sons of God. The phrases "daughters of God" and "children of God" can also be found in the OT. In the New Testament, Adam is called "the son of God" in one of the genealogies of Jesus. And Jesus himself said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God". So to the point, God is the metaphorical father to these people who follow His rules and love Him. And they are His children. And as the other comment says, son of man means a mortal, not to be confused with the Divine.
@CandidDate
@CandidDate 5 лет назад
If what you base your beliefs upon is flawed, then your beliefs are incorrect. Life is the great teacher, this I have learned.
@simoray6651
@simoray6651 5 лет назад
Grace Faith all the prophets in the old testament are sons or god Like Abraham Moïse .........
@carolyn1256
@carolyn1256 3 года назад
Amazing study. Thank you!
@mohdridhuanabdullah9668
@mohdridhuanabdullah9668 3 года назад
The Truth is reviled no matter what happens
@santiagodelassaletta7038
@santiagodelassaletta7038 8 лет назад
Interesting point about dualism, But I think that Dualistic thinking made it's way into post-exilic judaism through the contact with the Persians since it resonated very good with the overall Jewish thinking and expectations. Jews were exceptionally good syncretists. Eschatology and angelology grew from that germ, and after 400yrs in the making, no one could wonder why Jesus and even Paul were eschatologists.
@subversion6066
@subversion6066 5 лет назад
Santiago de Lassaletta Very intelligent post Sir!
@JeremyMacDonald1973
@JeremyMacDonald1973 5 лет назад
came into the comments to say this ... Good and Evil as we understand the concept starts with Persian Zoroastrianism. However really good point about the idea that the idea of Good and Evil found a particularly receptive audience among the post-exilic Jews of that era.
@versioncity1
@versioncity1 4 года назад
Really interesting. Thanks for posting this online Bart. Your genuine enthusiasm and fascination for the subject matter comes across and encourages me to read more of the specific history to this area.
@DBCisco
@DBCisco 7 лет назад
Note that Luke and Acts are admittedly second hand stories collected by the author in the opening verses. To paraphrase: "Hey Theo, here are the hand-me-down stories being told here about this Jesus fellow and his followers."
@drexel937
@drexel937 5 лет назад
Super- second time through. ;-)
@MrJaree
@MrJaree 3 года назад
listening to this guy increases my faith.
@youngepicurean8282
@youngepicurean8282 3 года назад
Yeah, because you need more blind faith to accept the claims of Christianity after watching this.
@vernerdeterre
@vernerdeterre 3 года назад
@@youngepicurean8282 Exactly lol I'm not sure he realizes it though
@privilegecadeaxe2901
@privilegecadeaxe2901 7 лет назад
If Jesus Is Not God. Then Christianity Is False. No Story. No Comments! Ok, Christianity is Paul's religion.... Let's call it Pauline Religion.
@strings-n-keys
@strings-n-keys 7 лет назад
7. The Supremacy of the Person of Christ (Col. 1:15-18) 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation, 16 for all things in heaven and on earth were created by him-all things, whether visible or invisible, whether thrones or dominions, whether principalities or powers-all things were created through him and for him. 17 He himself is before all things and all things are held together in him. 18 He is the head of the body, the church, as well as the beginning, the firstborn from among the dead so that he himself may become first in all things.
@rodthesaj1778
@rodthesaj1778 7 лет назад
Julia Walker Hey, Julie babe, you are quoting Paul as if he alone carries the banner of truth as a credentialed spokesman for Jesus because of his famous Damascus experience where he supposedly encountered the risen Christ through a voice. His experience may be authentic but his preachings and ideas are his alone, eloquent and impassioned as they are, we have to read and mull over them with some reserve and caution. Remember, a lot of cooks stuck their hands in the porridge in the recording, editing, re-editng, deletng, reconstructing, and God knows what else before the bible came out in its final form that we read today. The Jesus Seminar of 200 plus bible scholars has concluded that less than 10 per cent were actually spoken by Jesus in the new testament.
@strings-n-keys
@strings-n-keys 7 лет назад
I believe every word of the Bible. It is a supernatural book, a copy of the one that will be opened on Judgement Day along with the Book of Life and pray that your name is in it.
@lorentzkhan8884
@lorentzkhan8884 7 лет назад
Privilege Cadeaxe well traditional orthodox Christianity maybe. however the Christianity of the 1st and second centuries believed in what is called arianism today. It claimed jesus was pre existent but was created by the father as the first act of creation. This made jesus divine in essence and a "god" but was in no way the father's equal. You can be divine but not God it refers to his status as the second most powerful being in creation
@hugolindum7728
@hugolindum7728 6 лет назад
Julia Walker is that comment ironic?
@valerieangell7588
@valerieangell7588 5 лет назад
Very interesting...thanks.
@johnnafunkhouser5999
@johnnafunkhouser5999 4 года назад
If something is in your face all the time tine, you might want to take a closer look at it. Ubiquitousness is really important . Thanks, Dr. Bart.
@TonyTigerTonyTiger
@TonyTigerTonyTiger 8 лет назад
Excellent. As always for him.
@marigold9736
@marigold9736 5 лет назад
Muslims think Jesus is a prophet..he is called ISA Ibn Mariam son of Mariam in Qur'an.. he was sent as reminder of prophet to confirm Torah and bring new teaching which form basis of gospel.. this man has amazing mind...and yet his lost ..in Islam there's a concept of blessed knowledge the first benefits a person only in this life and the second kinds of knowledge benefits this world and the eternal life ....
@adrianabonitaaziz
@adrianabonitaaziz 5 лет назад
The bible says also that he was a prophet . The Christ , The Messiah. Not a biological son of God or God . You should read the bible . 2 pages a day , in a month you wil be through .
@MAntisLew1
@MAntisLew1 3 года назад
Eye opening lectures!
@gbeachy2010
@gbeachy2010 4 года назад
Regardless of your beliefs, it is worth a deep dive into the Bible, if only to understand Western culture. Many common phrases are quoted every day (and often misunderstood - like one hand not knowing etc.).
@dawahaltawheed6200
@dawahaltawheed6200 6 лет назад
Thank you very Much Dr Bhart Ehrman for your lectures and knowledge that clarifies a lot things to us .
@littlesmith5005
@littlesmith5005 4 года назад
You make me believe in Jesus! But only in the way you're explaining it!
@Davidbengurionrotteninthehell
@Davidbengurionrotteninthehell 3 года назад
realizing that christianity is a biggest hoax 💆🏻‍♂️
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 5 лет назад
Reading the comments here, I'm constantly struck just how much people disagree about religion.
@kipmic1
@kipmic1 4 года назад
Wow, great lecture for those who have vritical thinking skills. I'm not trying to troll people who have strong convictions and beliefs, but it's good to think about basic human thinking and how concepts and stories can evolve in society.
@werak.8595
@werak.8595 3 года назад
I guess the longer I dive into this stuff the shorter is time between now and me making my Shahada
@romanakhan4075
@romanakhan4075 3 года назад
Vow, lucky you!!!
@jeanclaudepierrot2971
@jeanclaudepierrot2971 3 года назад
So you're going to turn your back on God because of this quack and convert to an evil hateful cult? Really?
@islampeace...
@islampeace... 3 года назад
God never became God he was always God that is why Jesus is not God and can never be God. He eats, sleeps, and poops like the rest of us so please do not worship a human. Learn about Islam the true religion of todays world.
@werak.8595
@werak.8595 3 года назад
@@jeanclaudepierrot2971 I'm not going to discuss anything with a bigot. So it's my last and only comment replying to you
@bbccnn8836
@bbccnn8836 3 года назад
, 😃😄🤣if you apply this kind of study on quran.... Islam would disappear
@sakiamran11
@sakiamran11 8 лет назад
We need the truth. Whatever it is. :)
@gloryofthemessiah8771
@gloryofthemessiah8771 5 лет назад
This person is not saying the truth
@E.J.Crunkleton
@E.J.Crunkleton 5 лет назад
@@gloryofthemessiah8771 Do you have any proof for your claim?
@jeanoscar552
@jeanoscar552 5 лет назад
Isn't the truth just as important if not more than the lie?...is there such a thing as absolute truth or is truth relative to....whatever... what YOU, HE, SHE, THEY, WE say, feel, think or imagine?? What do you think? I would love to know
@charlesmichaels6648
@charlesmichaels6648 5 лет назад
@@gloryofthemessiah8771 And Serpent asked: "Has Almighty God really said...." Read Matt 24.
@ashishamaen6281
@ashishamaen6281 5 лет назад
In all 4 gospel, the Jews accused Jesus blasphemy. Just Google. As for contradictions, Google for explanations. Don't accept what is said blindly.
@dynamic9016
@dynamic9016 4 года назад
Great video
@wescartee2998
@wescartee2998 5 лет назад
Excellent
@joshlucas4052
@joshlucas4052 4 года назад
Wow, this is interesting.
@TitusJudah
@TitusJudah 7 лет назад
Fascinating. Illuminating​. Mind blowing.
@gloryofthemessiah8771
@gloryofthemessiah8771 5 лет назад
What ?? This person is not saying the truth. He is asking and answering himself without even showing that from the Bible.
@kiranjan9748
@kiranjan9748 4 года назад
Would love to see a debate between Bart Ehram and David Wood. Bart clearly does not let his own beliefs and views influence the historical evidence. David on the other hand seems always to be trying to prove himself right rather than lay out the facts.
@aquillafleetwood8180
@aquillafleetwood8180 5 лет назад
Moses said, God will raise up a prophet like unto me...Hear ye him!" It is pointing to the Messiah coming in the timetable of Daniel chapter nine! Shalom....
@warrywarrior3787
@warrywarrior3787 3 года назад
When the earth was not yet formed, the spirit of God hovered above the surface of the water. the question is at that time, what is the container for the water?
@shaikhkareem2852
@shaikhkareem2852 5 лет назад
Amazing....god is determined by consesus...
@ericclaeyborn7008
@ericclaeyborn7008 4 года назад
Nobody determines God, but God Himself.
@ihatespam2
@ihatespam2 4 года назад
Eric Claeyborn said someone based on nothing. History proves everyone has their own version of god. Since there is no evidence or need for gods, your statement is meaningless.
@lordemed1
@lordemed1 3 года назад
All 'truthes' are determined by consensus.
@wkboonec
@wkboonec 6 лет назад
UCC = On January 29-31, 2016, three talks at Coral Gables Congregational Church in Coral Gables, Florida.
@thebaconized4733
@thebaconized4733 7 лет назад
This is an absolutely fantastic lecture and an excellent book, and I strongly recommend any of Ehrman's works for Christians. So much of what is shoved down people's throats in church is just watered down devotionals, not honest and critical examinations about the validity of biblical claims and church history. Christians never hear this kind of information from your average village pastor. Go read and hold yourself to a higher intellectual standard.
@greglogan7706
@greglogan7706 7 лет назад
Great statement - absolutely. Evangelicals are the most ignorant often silly and arrogant religious sorts that I have met. Most are really insecure in their faith. And much evil comes from this community.
@lranieri1
@lranieri1 7 лет назад
Greg, you're so right! I was Evangelical for 20 years. I believe the evil comes from the self-righteous attitude that is taught. I could write a book on what I experienced!
@sosaq3841
@sosaq3841 7 лет назад
I hope my latino brethren wake up to what has been shoved down our throats, not only is it flawed theologically the scripture itself is horrendous. Ive listened to the apologists but nothing they said was credible.
@70AD-user45
@70AD-user45 6 лет назад
The baconized At the end of the day this is only Ehrman's opinion. There are better Bible scholars than him like Don K.Preston and William Bell.
@margahe9157
@margahe9157 5 лет назад
The baconized you are so wrong! I don't know were you are living! In much to many churches Jesus is watwered down like this. Much damage is done by this kind of teaching. But it is NOT able to distroy the church. That is the miracale God causes!
@Reason_over_Dogma
@Reason_over_Dogma 8 лет назад
I missed out on this. Never knew bart was in florida. Damn.
@yvranx
@yvranx 8 лет назад
Very interesting, but please next time repeat the questions asked in the Q&A.
@honeysucklecat
@honeysucklecat 3 года назад
I’ve heard the trick to remembering how many books in NT but I never remember it
@stressfree9780
@stressfree9780 3 года назад
Much of the Credit to me finding my way inside Abrahmic religious pathways- is because of you...
@jeanclaudepierrot2971
@jeanclaudepierrot2971 3 года назад
But don't listen to him, he's a quack. Read the Gospels!
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