How John Built the New Generation Tractors and Why They Succeeded 

Very true! Thank you for watching

I have 2 4020's as well. Bought first 15 years ago and at an auction 3 years ago I found its brother, one serial number apart. The second one is narrow front. Love these machines

@@CheeseMiser Cheesy fits you...

@@CheeseMisermaybe not a 806 or 706 but 1206 possibly 4020 still better

Yes it is! Thank you for watching👍🏻

How would that compare to a hydrostatic transmission?

That’s awesome! Thank you for watching👍🏻

As a proud owner of a 3020 powershift tell him thanks if he is still with us. I was actually out shredding pastures with it last night. With proper maintenance and care I hope to pass it down to my kids some day. They designed a hell of a tractor

I was told they were near bankrupt by the late 50s early 60s until they came out with the new generation tractors.

Definitely one of the greatest tractors ever produced! Thank you for watching👍🏻

Sounds like you got a pretty impressive line up👍🏻thank you for watching!

@@LocustMotorWorks we do mostly 1982 and older. Keep up the awesome work

Thank you for watching!👍🏻im glad you enjoy the videos

obviously you never heard about Oliver being ahead of John Deere in the 50s and 60s

@@Jordannelson23where are they today?

​@@bluegrassman3040John Deere surviving isn't a testimony to product, it's a testimony to marketing a mediocre product, and easy financing

@@RJ1999x just like GM.

wait, so they moved the seat to the "front of the front axle"?

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Knew several of the guys who were in the engineering and development of Deere tractors!

My Uncle-in-Law, his dad and uncle ran a cafeteria for the workers and cashed a lot of their paychecks for them. He said many times they would send him to the bank with close to $10,000 and more sometimes! He said it scared him later on when he got to thinking just how little his life would have been worth if the wrong people found out what was in the paper sack... lol

@@atomicwedgie8176 hey that's a super cool story! Thank you for sharing and tuning into watch the video👍

@@glennspreeman1634 Awesome! I bet they have some cool stories to tell. Thank you for watching.

2510s and 2520s are nice tractors! I’m planing to make a whole video about them. Thank you for watching👍🏻

I agree! They definitely have held up throughout 50+ years and can still get plenty of work done👍🏻 thank you for watching

How would those compare to a hydrostatic transmission?

Definitely fun tractors to operate. Thanks for watching!👍🏻

My favorite of those John Deeres to drive was the 3020.. She had a Power Shift and Year Round Cab..

And I believe I know where the 4000 still is... Another local fellow bought it at our friends auction and as far as I know he still uses it in his haying operation..

Sounds like a nice lineup of tractors!!!👍🏻 we’ve got a older model 3020 and I enjoy running it. Thank you for watching

@@LocustMotorWorks IMO the 3020 is underrated.. the 4020 gets all the attention but I think the 3020 was actually nicer to drive than the 4020...

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Very true! seems like they will never leave the farm

Hey that’s awesome! Those where some very fine machines👍🏻thank you for watching

They are awesome tractors! Your right about simplicity and they truly hold up today. Thank you for watching

Lot's of people had the same problem as you. Design flaw. They should have taken all the rest of the tractor mfg ideas 😅😅😅😅😂😂

both awesome tractors! Thank you for watching

John Deere innovated next to nothing, most of their "innovation" was stolen from other manufacturers

I was born in 1960, with a brand new 4010 on the farm.

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730 has to be one of my favorite 2 cylinders as well. Thank you for watching

I agree, we had a 4320 and a 4020 and the 4020 was great for utility work, such as cultivating and pulling wagons or a sprayer but the 4320 was much more suited for field work. Better power, better weight, only weak spot on ours was the PTO clutch-didn't seem to last as long but we used it for running a silage chopper so it got a lot of use.

awesome to hear! Thanks for watching

You couldn't do that today!

Deere also has the fiasco of Wakisha engine damn near killing Oliver when they went on strike, Oliver had enough orders due to their successful over direct under power shift to rock the market. Then Wakisha engine went on strike, Oliver had already traded in the tractors and resold many so they were gone, IH was at capacity and could not produce much more and that left Deere to fill the gap, the rest is history. My neighbor ended up with two 4320's and never looked back.

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Nice thank you for watching

That’s interesting about the sand left in for the casting. What are your favorite old generation tractors?

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The 2840 was a mishmash of US and Euro parts. SOLID tractors, and I still run em. It may be sacrilege to say, but I like em better than 4020. I know, it's heresy, but I like them. 😮

​@@MorganOtt-ne1qjWe had one, 2840 is a great tractor. If you're going to ride a tractor all day, choose the 4020; but for chores or a morning/afternoon I'd take the 2840.

The 2840 was an awful tractor, with a gutless wonder of an engine, plagued with transmission problems

@@RJ1999x lol, maybe it depends on which one you get & what you expect from it.

@@davidkottman3440 possible, I knew 3 different farmers that had them, and all 3 hated them, I've only operated the one and found it a horrible tractor, was my friends dairy farm, and it was just a chore tractor. If the engine wasn't a problem, the transmission was, I could never understand why they kept it, or kept repairing it. The others got rid of theirs, one was traded on a 2755, not a very comfortable tractor in my opinion, but he says it's given them good service

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I couldn’t agree more with what you said👍🏻thank you for watching

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@@LocustMotorWorks my dad first turned me loose on a 1965 4020 Power Shift one evening in the fall of 1975 when I was ten years old. I was pulling a five-bottom semi-mounted plow with sixteen inch points in a field west of the house. He was running a 3020 with a mounted four-bottom plow. We worked into the night to finish up the field. The 4020 had an aftermarket turbocharger kit with straight chrome stack. I will never forget the sound or the sight of flame shooting six inches out of the top of the stack. A couple of years later, I started working for my uncle for $3 per hour running a 1972 4620. I pulled a 6-18 plow with that among many other utensils (22 ft. disk, 30 ft. field cultivator, anhydrous applicator, etc.). I also occasionally ran his 1978 8630. All before the age of sixteen... I operated all kinds of other equipment for other local farmers that were friends of my dad, hustling to make money through middle school and high school. Allis Chalmers, Deutz, Ford, International, and others. The Deere machines were far superior in every way. One day in 1978, my uncle got in an argument with a rep from the local Massey Ferguson dealer. The rep was bragging up their brand new 1155 V-8 powered tractor that they had on their lot. Next thing you know, the dealer trucks his new 1155 out to the farm for a demonstration. One of the fields we cultivated had been part of a fisheries years ago and was composed of hard, black clay muck. We had to plow it in the fall and let it rest over the winter to be able to break it up enough to plant in the spring. They hooked the 1155 to the 6-18 Deere plow that we used with the 4620 and headed out to the muck field. The dealer selected the range he wanted and dropped into an existing furrow and promptly killed the engine. After several tries, he ended up in it's lowest range and finally struggled through one pass. He climbed off and said, "There ain't any tractor can pull a plow through that ground." Laughter ensued. My uncle brought the 4620 out and hooked up to the plow. He selected fourth gear (normally, I plowed in fifth, sometimes sixth, but this was really hard pulling ground) and dropped into the furrow and lowered the plow and rolled on the power. The Deere settled in with light smoke rolling and ripped through a full pass at 4.5 mph. The Massey dealer stood there dumbfounded. He never said another word and loaded his tractor and headed back to town.

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@@CheeseMiser I didn't say anything about how many were sold. I said the 4020 was the best tractor ever built -- and it was. Demonstrably so. The Ford 8N was a Mickey Mouse piece of junk that was cheap. The 8N is not even in the same universe as the 4020. I've operated both. I've operated many different tractors from multiple different manufacturers. The 4020 is hands-down the best of all of them. A close second was the John Deere 4620. Your comment belies your ignorance of the subject. I wouldn't trade my 4020 for a hundred 8Ns. 🙄

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In what way? It was an overcomplicated design, that had a tendency to self steer, at very inopertune times

They couldn't decide which company they should copy

Nice! not to bad of a project as long as you got a fork lift and a decent shop👍

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It didn't come out til the 20 series. It was the final upgrade but the differences between the 4010 and the 830 were definitely much more drastic.

That's true but the JD was far ahead in ease of operation, steering and hydraulics. We had a 930, put a turbo on it and had lots of power but not enough cooling. Traded it for a 1030, 1175, eventually a 2470. I farmed with all of those, plus a 4020 and a 4320. Case tractors would pull, and were somewhat better on fuel, but everyone but my grandfather would rather drive the Deeres.