How Joseph Smith Tried to Write Himself Into the Bible 

Thanks for leaving on your own...we would have thrown you out anyway. Foolish traditions of your fathers, you know...

Thanks for leaving the cult Borrowed LDS only needs idiots and dumb people who fall for cults

I left the Mormon church 5 years ago. I was a convert, in the church for many years and honestly I was misled, until...well the temple experience that threw me completely to the degree I had to step back and go, What in the world is this? Then I started seeing what God wanted me to see, and no longer saw what Satan wanted me to see. It scares me completely that I was so badly misled for as long, and, I am now in a very intense study of the Bible through the ESV Bible, using the John MacArthur study series and Warren Wiersbe Expositions and a study of the Psalms. I am so blessed, and I am so very fortunate the Holy Spirit of God, by way of my Savior Jesus Christ, salvaged me and saved me to see the truth. I study every single day and pray often. I am a living, breathing miracle of redemption, for God calls those who he chooses-that appears, in accordance to scripture, not to be something everyone experiences. I am very grateful and will run as fast as I can from anything that even remotely looks like false doctrine. Lord, please open the eyes of their hearts to enlighten them who hear to seek the truth. Amen.

@borrowed tomb If you think that the Mormons are misled, or in some kind of deception, then it's best not to use deception (lies) yourself.

They are another arm of the Judaizing-machine

Hahahahaha

I have thought that

Exactly. The parralells are very uncanny.

@@vealatiume455 hahaha

@@mimi-xw5se.....I can't be the only one that thinks this right? 🤣🤣🤣🤣.....

A pathetic poser for 37 years? Wow. Thanks for leaving so we didn't have to throw you out.

@@johnlee1352 omg LDS is luciferian do not put on green apron repent. Lucifer's green apron of this Earth. Your prayers answered by Satan

@@billymichael5734 ...yawn...

@@johnlee1352 did you put on Lucifer's green apron? Naughty repent sinner

@@johnlee1352 have wife sew up all green garments with red robe freak out Temple workers

Amen! Praying for your journey.

Wishing you all the best.👍👍👍👍👍

Good for you! I know that the LDS church is really into being the one true church, so it may be helpful for you to question if a thing even exists. I love the denomination of the church I go to, mostly because of how we practice, and also because the doctrine is very flexible - basically just the apostles creed. So there's room for disagreement about the end times, baptism, and other doctrine. But I think it would be dangerous if I were to think I found the one true church, which is created by man. Good luck on your journey! Visit lots of different types of churches and talk to lots of people!

Lifting you up in Prayer.

Amen, praise God, welcome home!

I know they will do anything to not look or even seek out something different and it's breaking my heart as I'm just trying so hard to help them hear the truth. But I guess that's why it's been so effective. All cults don't allow you to look outside for any other information that contradicts their beliefs and your not allowed to ask questions. One thing we can do is pray for them and plant seeds.

Your allowed to ask questions but they don’t want your reading it for yourself which made no sense to me it’s Gods word why do I have to seek a minister who reads it for me and then gives me the answer?

My parents and 2 older brothers are still mormon and my parents refuse to talk about it. I barely email them every now and then but I still pray that God will send someone whom they might listen to that can show them the truth.

Dear Linda, I gave the following to Bryan who replied to you just below and thought that you could be helped by this also. Dear Bryan, Maybe there is something in my writings that you can find something that you might think could be helpful to tell your Parents and two older brothers, I know that this can be such a burden to you because if I was in your shoes this would be tearing my heart out. I feel the Lord put on my heart to write to you. I do know you know some of what I am about to say, I am only in hopes of you being able to see the correlation. In the beginning Satin came to this Earth because he had sinned against God, he tried to make himself above God so God cast him out of Heaven. Then when God made first man the Devil talked to them in the Garden and told Eve a lie and Eve believed it, so sin entered all man. Satin has continued to Deceive man from that day forward. You see Satin hates God so much; he also knows that in the end he will be cast into Hell forever along with his demons. He is working hard to take as many people to hell as he can, and he can only do that by deceiving us. Here is the Point I hope that you will be able to take to your heart. If I am lied to or deceived by someone no matter who it is, it is going to take some time and maybe even never that I will be able to trust that person again. If I am lied (deceived)to I for sure will not be going back to that person to get some truth because that person has lost my trust. So here Joseph Smith said with the very first version of the Book of Mormon, that it was the most correct book in all the Earth because it was Divinely Inspired. (The Bible (KJV) is correct, the meanings of this Bible has never needed correction. PERIOD!) This is Joseph word which should mean something to everyone that listens to him. I can show you verses in that original 1830 version that he changed some most important attributes of God Himself. I am going to show you only one verse and this should make you see that he lied to us even from the very start, He tells us most correct book and that it was inspired by God. Please tell me how God who knows everything from beginning to end would not know His nature, in that He would have to give joseph another vision to correct His mistakes in the first version? Original 1830 Text (1 Nephi 3, p. 32): “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.” Current, Altered Text (1 Nephi 13:40) “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.” Here is my point what will you do? Will you keep going back to the people that have lied to you in the first place (your churches so-called prophets and Joseph books) and you will think that maybe this time they will be honest with you and that they will now tell you the truth. If people will lie to you about something that is so very important as where our souls will be in Eternity, they will certainly lie to you to explain why these verses have been changed, when you come back to them and ask about these mistakes, asking them why did they change something as important as to the Deity of God? Do you really think now they are going to be honest with you? Of course not. They lied to you once because they have been deceived by the god of this World in the first place and so therefore, he is not going to tell them the truth now because even they have believed in a lie, they are not going to say okay this time we’ll be honest with you, they can’t do that because they too have been deceived. If they have deceived once they will deceive over and over, that can only change when they realize that they to have been deceived, only until they also see the truth in Gods Word the Bible because the Book of Mormon has proven itself to be false in so many places, and yet you are so willing to keep going back to the Mormon church and it doctrine, so they can explain, how can they explain honestly if they themselves don’t know what honest or the truth really is. Every time that you have a question and go back to the books of the Mormon church or to go to the Apostles of that church to explain what certain things mean they will give you whatever it takes to make it sound okay in your ears to make it sound satisfactory and you buy into it. What you need to do is go outside of your church and the books of the Mormon church, to get answers that are true and from God Himself and that place is the Word of God the Bible, it has been the same yesterday, today and forever. God clearly states that His Word WILL NOT pass away. There is NO corruption in Gods Word because it is the true Word of God. I am so thankful that I found the truth and it did not take a man to tell me his truth, which was only deception from the very beginning, and I have given you only one verse out of Book of Mormon showing you the falsehood. What the Mormon do not realize that the Devil is alive and well today, the same Devil that deceived Adam and Eve is the same being that is deceiving those today. When Satin tried to be above God, God cast him out of Heaven. Satin hates God so much that he is trying to deceive as many people as he can before God puts him away forever, he is constantly starting new religions with falsehoods, and each one of these new belief systems that start up, will say that they are the one and true church. The Mormons are no different, do you really think that because they say they are the one and true church that that is true? The only way we can know if it is of God, we must check it with Gods Word the Bible because it is the only accurate Book. We cannot take any other book to see if the Bible is true because they are not Gods Word. Other books can only be tested to the Word of God the Bible to see if that book is accurate, not the other way around. Religions such as Jehovah Witnesses, Atheism, Scientology, New Age, Mormonism, etc. Jehovah Witnesses - believe that Jesus is not God. Atheism - Don’t believe in God. Scientology - belief in God is not necessary. New Age - believe we are mini gods. Mormonism - believe man was before God. Hutterites - they don’t believe Father, Son and Holy Spirit are equal in nature or substance. May I ask you what do each of these beliefs have in common? They have taken the Deity out of God! Again, I will reiterate the god of this World (Satin) so hates God that he wants mankind to not give Him His place of Preeminence. I hope that this will strike an accord in your heart so that you can lead your family and many others to the true Lord Jesus, they cannot find him in the doctrine of the Mormon church but a good God-fearing Church.

I have children who are married and heavily indoctrinated in Mormonism. They refuse to look at the truth, and I believe they are scared to lose all their friends, and to be ostracized. Emotions are real in Mormonism, and as a former Mormon myself from the early 1980's ~ 2000's, I can affirm everything he is saying is true. I am so thankful for the Bible, taking the time to actually reading it, and seeing all the amazing proof of how inerrant the Bible really is, without corruption.

"Mormons please listen." Same old anti-Mormonism I've heard my entire life. How I wish for some fresh attacks! Something that skirts right up to the edge of forbidding to call someone a fool. Maybe someone that stands in the high building in the attitude of mocking the saints. Oh, good heavens, that's right here on this page!

Thomas Maughan nN

Stop the pretense...you never had a testimony. Your weakness and confusion drips from your comment. Stop reciting your Mormon bona fides to get more credibility when you bash them. Praise god...but do it from outside the church. Thanks for leaving so we didn't have to throw you out.

"devout"...bwahahaha

@@johnlee1352 overflowing with that Mormon love right there.

Lynda, Thank you for sharing your story. I recently left something similar. 29 years of hearing things one way and over the course of the last few years I started reading the Bible on my own. God has been so faithful. I know that cult-groups can offer some really ecstatic spiritual insights and experiences. At the end of the day I have held to this one truth: without faith it is impossible to please God. You stepped out in faith and you are continuing to seek God by faith. Your life today is far more pleasing to Him than the other life that was spent gaining spiritual knowledge/experiences. One day we will be in Heaven together and will have eternity to share the depths of our story. For now all the glory belongs to God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. May God our Father richly bless you in your latter years. Your brother in Christ, Bobby

@Lynda Smith they must have thought you were very special with that last name. Anways, after death your not married to any man or men in this life; Mat. 22:23-33. literally we will be like the angles.; Mat. 22:30, Rev. 21:17.

Praise God for you to finally coming to his truth my heart aches for those who never have seeking a chance

@@rickhuntling7338 you're*...angels* 😊👍

Yes,I pray he keeps working in you the holy Spirit CONVICTING you into all truth. Jesus Christ and his word is all you need to see the truth.

Not sure who this guy is but Mormons barely use the JST. Why is he going on about it?

@@ingyb6180 True believing Mormons wouldn't skip it ever. Culturally things are changing and they are shifting away from it. However it is still reveared as more true than the bible. All good mormons know that God messed it up, and the only man ever in this life to be greater than Jesus is Joseph Smith. In the history of the church vol 6 pp.408-409 the so called prophet said the following: I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet."

@@oliveoilchic actually it's hardly ever used. We refer to it every once in a while for greater insight into passages in the Bible. And we don't think Joseph Smith as greater than Jesus Christ. That passage you quoted is never talked about. We talk about Joseph Smith as being a great prophet, not greater than Jesus Christ.

@@ingyb6180 the point is that Joseph referred to himself as greater than Jesus. Whether you talk about it or not, it's in your history. It happened along with a bunch of other sketchy stuff. Mormonism is the very false gospel Paul and Jesus warn us of. Joseph never completed the translation because he was murdered. What was the point anyways ? If the Book of Mormon fixed the Bible, why attempt to mess with it at all? The point of Book of Mormon was because the bible was corrupt. And... that the JST wasn't completed, Why didn't your so called prophets finish the work after Joseph died? They are percieved to talk to God. Or did God decide it wasn't that important after all? Sorry to tell you that you follow a false Christ. I know it feels good to feel righteous and all, but it's of men, not of God.

@@oliveoilchic The Book of Mormon never attempts to correct the Bible and LDS members don't make that statement. Read the words underneath the title: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. Heaven forbid there were another group of people that received his teachings on the other side of the world. That's what the Book of Mormon is about Christ's dealings with these people. You guys focus too much on the history of the church and it's beginnings. These men were human and as humans weren't perfect, even Joseph Smith. The main source of study that LDS people do is the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Not the JST. It's not a big deal, really. Even if he did end up finishing his translation, we would never use that over the Bible which is the word of God. We don't even claim the Book of Mormon to be better.

Except for the fact that the Joseph Smith translation exists, everything else you wrote is anti LDS hogwash.

They believe God has a Wife Heavenly Mother

I read your entire post, props to you for taking a deep dive into Mormonism to understand it. I’m appalled and amazed by Mormonism and Smith. Like you, there is so much apostasy in Mormonism it’s stunning and eye watering.

@@jboreal7982 the fact that it is eye-watering is exactly how we should feel. We should be motivated by deep love for them to not only reach out, but study out the Book of Mormon, the D&C and the Pearl of Great Price, because when they see that we actually care about knowing the things they care about, it moves them the listen and be responsive. We just have to be wise and measure out everything with scripture by proving all things and holding fast to all that is good

Yes, and it is strange that it isn’t discussed more. After all, it’s not a stretch that Smith would write a Bible “in his own image” if you will. Then the cult of Mormonism could simply amend their statement to say the Smith Bible is the Bible.

Took a whole class on Mormonism and it never even came up!! Now how wild is that?

Sounds like Joseph Smith 😂 Moroni=Moron

🤣wrong!

let them all believe whatever religion they want to believe we will all find out in the end any way🤣😟

😂😂😂😂

wow, I never heard this. I'll check it out, but it sounds believable based on the rest of the things Joseph said.

You are right Ryan!!! It was josephs smiths divination that got me out!! D & C section 111. I found the moroni thing afterwards!! Thank u for your love toward them! ANYBODY can be saved out of it if by Grace the Holy Spirit opens their eyes. This news of moroni can absolutely be one way to present it to them. I am a former ,devout six generation mormon now born again for 18yrs!! Blessings!!😄

hahahaha, that made my morning.

After I left mormonisum I was shown that "Nephi" was a Nephilim fallen angel and the fallen ones where who appeared before JS bringing this "other" gospel! We know no man has ever seen Almighty God at anytime so people should question who JS truely said he saw... In his mother's diary she never mentioned of him coming home after seeing who he said appeared to him. I sure know if angels appeared to me I would run hime and tell the whole town! Mormons don't understand why we bring forth this truth but many of us after finding these things out from the HolySpirit where told to share these findings with others. God's plan is so much bigger then just a few of us! He wants a to know the truth and come back to Him before it's too late! My mother truely believes my father and her will be married for eturntity even though the Holy Word clearly states that when we die we shall be like the angels and have no need for marriage....I guess this is where they don't believe the Holy Word when it doesn't line up with what JS tought. Breaks my heart...as it does Father Gods heart because the truth is out there but many have traded it in for a lie... Eturntity is a long time...

The angel has nothing to do with Africa. Revelations 14:7 states where the angel Moroni would be coming from, as this angel would have the everlasting gospel in his hands to give to them who dwell down on the earth. You guys are looking beyond the mark if you can't see that God ordered that angel to deliver the everlasting gospel up to the earth's inhabitants in these last days as Revelations is about the end of the world and John the Revelator saw our day and time 2000 or more years into the future, God showed the future to him by visions. And that angel came in 1830 to deliver up the ancient record on gold plates to Joseph Smith to translate it and from there the everlasting gospel would go out all across the world as John The Revelator had seen it. So the Book of Mormon is fulfilling biblical prophecy through the distribution of it through The Church of JESUS CHRIST of latter-day Saints. Its not the Bible because the Bible never came out from an angel of heaven. But the Book containing the everlasting gospel did come from heaven and John Prophesied of its coming forth in the last days. . More of God's word would be coming forth given for a witness and testimony of Jesus Christ out to the whole before the end of the world comes....

Demonic powers huh? Ok...

I wonder how much Seminary you slept through. I knew about polygamy in particular. Africans were not permitted the priesthood but would be permitted one day (and a few years later it was so). Some of these other claims I do not consider credible but it also doesn't matter to me; I do not worship Joseph Smith but I am glad he started this church. If not him, it would have been someone else and then someone else would have stories made up about him for others to either defend, ignore or join the hyenas howling at the moon.

@@thomasmaughan4798 So you accuse her of sleeping through LDS Seminary? That's your accusation? LOL typical Borg Mormon to excuse the truth away at the expense of her testimony. You right his church has made you the person you have become and it's not good nor CHRIST like. So being Joseph Smith sealed himself to other men's sealed wives in the in their absence, wouldn't that be Celestial adultry? Who will be so called sealed to the women in the resurection? JESUS say none, there is not marriage nor giving in marrige in the Resurrection. JESUS would accuse Joseph Smith of err in the scriptures and the power of GOD. The scriptures your adulterate stone seer said were corrupted. JESUS said in the Resurection we be as angles not gods and YHWH is the GOD of the living not the dead. The WORD saw Moromism from a long ways off, in Mat. 22:29-32. In 4 verses JESUS affirms the scriptures are uncorrupted, saints are not sealed in the Resurrection, we won't be wantabe little gods and the ones dead in hell can't be baptized unto the Living GOD. Whom do you believe in? The WORD or the adulterate stone seer. One died for you the other creature died for himself.

@@rickhuntling7338 " So you accuse her of sleeping through LDS Seminary?" Thank you for reading my comment. "You right his church has made you the person you have become and it's not good nor CHRIST like." I have a way to go. Seems you are extremely judgmental. You also have a long way to go. "wouldn't that be Celestial adultry?" Yes, it wouldn't. Or something. Not my problem to worry about. "JESUS say none, there is not marriage nor giving in marrige in the Resurrection." There is also no divorce in the resurrection. "JESUS would accuse Joseph Smith of err in the scriptures" Maybe; but that's not your judgment to make.

​@@rickhuntling7338 Let us examine just one of the 16 verses removed from newer bibles. Notice how the various manuscripts do not agree with each other on what Matthew is reported to have said. NONE of the four principle apostles wrote their own books contemporaneously. Actually, I suspect they probably DID but those records are lost, at least for now. Revelation talks about the books (plural) being opened and saints judged by what is written in the books. So nothing is lost to God. Quote (from Wikipedia) (2) Matthew 18:11 KJV: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Reason: This verse is lacking in א,B,L (original handwriting), θ, ƒ1, ƒ13, some old Italic & Syriac & Coptic & Georgian mss, and such ancient sources as the Apostolic Canons, Eusebius, Jerome, and others. It is found in some other sources, not quite so ancient, such as D,K,W,X, and the Latin Vulgate. It is not found in any manuscript before the 5th century.[14] According to Bruce Metzger, "There can be little doubt that the words ... are spurious here, being omitted by the earliest witnesses representing several textual types... [This verse was] manifestly borrowed by copyists from Luke 19:10."[15]

"It's baffling to me the lack of any understanding of Christian history or what Christian beliefs are." WHICH Christians beliefs? There's about 7000 denominations (a dozen or two big denominations) and they are very different on many important aspects. The whole point of the Nicean Creed, for instance, was to try to reconcile some of these huge differences. Basically they ended up simply creating a new difference.

Protestants beliefs are no Christian beliefs!!!

​@@thomasmaughan4798you should be baffled at yourself!

@@davido3026 "you should be baffled at yourself!" I perform regular baffle clearing maneuvers.

Before you dump all the info, be sure they dont lose Jesus in the process.

Hopefully you had the friend read Ephesians 2:8-9 -- saved by grace, not by works as Mormons believe their works get them into the upper heaven

Yes he most likely has been cursed. I really wouldnt want to be him after judgement.

When spiders get flushed down the shower drain, my Dad says to himself "Well, he probably made it out alive on the other side."

Christopher Walls how did he die? im wondering..im a Christian btw

@@moniquewhite2850 he was murdered after he was arrested for telling his people to burn down a newspaper printers business.

@@richardholmes7199 actually Joseph did order it. The men who owned the printing press happened to be Mormons against polygamy.

Does your father have multiple wives ? Ask what would your mother think if he Mary someone else her faith will be conflicted. Then shows that in the Bible Paul tells men to have 1 woman and women to have 1 men, and see if she agrees with Paul more than JS

@@icarojose6316Polygamy is too complex; there is another commenter here which talks about Joseph Smith taking a story about Captain Kidd and making his own version in the Mormon Scriptures. Perhaps you could ask that commenter for more information. ❤✝️

Maybe something in this could help you. I feel the Lord put on my heart to let you read this. I do know you know some of what I am about to say, I am only in hopes of you being able to see the correlation. In the beginning Satin came to this Earth because he had sinned against God, he tried to make himself above God so God cast him out of Heaven. Then when God made first man the Devil talked to them in the Garden and told Eve a lie and Eve believed it, so sin entered all man. Satin has continued to Deceive man from that day forward. You see Satin hates God so much; he also knows that in the end he will be cast into Hell forever along with his demons. He is working hard to take as many people to hell as he can, and he can only do that by deceiving us. Here is the Point I hope that you will be able to take to your heart. If I am lied to or deceived by someone no matter who it is, it is going to take some time and maybe even never that I will be able to trust that person again. If I am lied (deceived)to I for sure will not be going back to that person to get some truth because that person has lost my trust. So here Joseph Smith said with the very first version of the Book of Mormon, that it was the most correct book in all the Earth because it was Divinely Inspired. (The Bible (KJV) is correct, the meanings of this Bible has never needed correction. PERIOD!) This is Joseph word which should mean something to everyone that listens to him. I can show you verses in that original 1830 version that he changed some most important attributes of God Himself. I am going to show you only one verse and this should make you see that he lied to us even from the very start, He tells us most correct book and that it was inspired by God. Please tell me how God who knows everything from beginning to end would not know His nature, in that He would have to give joseph another vision to correct His mistakes in the first version? Original 1830 Text (1 Nephi 3, p. 32): “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.” Current, Altered Text (1 Nephi 13:40) “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.” Here is my point what will you do? Will you keep going back to the people that have lied to you in the first place (your churches so-called prophets and Joseph books) and you will think that maybe this time they will be honest with you and that they will now tell you the truth. If people will lie to you about something that is so very important as where our souls will be in Eternity, they will certainly lie to you to explain why these verses have been changed, when you come back to them and ask about these mistakes, asking them why did they change something as important as to the Deity of God? Do you really think now they are going to be honest with you? Of course not. They lied to you once because they have been deceived by the god of this World in the first place and so therefore, he is not going to tell them the truth now because even they have believed in a lie, they are not going to say okay this time we’ll be honest with you, they can’t do that because they too have been deceived. If they have deceived once they will deceive over and over, that can only change when they realize that they to have been deceived, only until they also see the truth in Gods Word the Bible because the Book of Mormon has proven itself to be false in so many places, and yet you are so willing to keep going back to the Mormon church and it doctrine, so they can explain, how can they explain honestly if they themselves don’t know what honest or the truth really is. Every time that you have a question and go back to the books of the Mormon church or to go to the Apostles of that church to explain what certain things mean they will give you whatever it takes to make it sound okay in your ears to make it sound satisfactory and you buy into it. What you need to do is go outside of your church and the books of the Mormon church, to get answers that are true and from God Himself and that place is the Word of God the Bible, it has been the same yesterday, today and forever. God clearly states that His Word WILL NOT pass away. There is NO corruption in Gods Word because it is the true Word of God. I am so thankful that I found the truth and it did not take a man to tell me his truth, which was only deception from the very beginning, and I have given you only one verse out of Book of Mormon showing you the falsehood. What the Mormon do not realize that the Devil is alive and well today, the same Devil that deceived Adam and Eve is the same being that is deceiving those today. When Satin tried to be above God, God cast him out of Heaven. Satin hates God so much that he is trying to deceive as many people as he can before God puts him away forever, he is constantly starting new religions with falsehoods, and each one of these new belief systems that start up, will say that they are the one and true church. The Mormons are no different, do you really think that because they say they are the one and true church that that is true? The only way we can know if it is of God, we must check it with Gods Word the Bible because it is the only accurate Book. We cannot take any other book to see if the Bible is true because they are not Gods Word. Other books can only be tested to the Word of God the Bible to see if that book is accurate, not the other way around. Religions such as Jehovah Witnesses, Atheism, Scientology, New Age, Mormonism, etc. Jehovah Witnesses - believe that Jesus is not God. Atheism - Don’t believe in God. Scientology - belief in God is not necessary. New Age - believe we are mini gods. Mormonism - believe man was before God. Hutterites - they don’t believe Father, Son and Holy Spirit are equal in nature or substance. May I ask you what do each of these beliefs have in common? They have taken the Deity out of God! Again, I will reiterate the god of this World (Satin) so hates God that he wants mankind to not give Him His place of Preeminence. I hope that this will strike an accord in your heart so that you can lead your family and many others to the true Lord Jesus, they cannot find him in the doctrine of the Mormon church but a good God-fearing Church.

Yeah. He was unable to read Egyptian. He thought he was fooling people

Ex-JW here. I can help.

They love you brother...

The Executioner They do, not sure how to reconcile with their theology. Harmful doctrines and practices aside, they do love you (it’s been debated even then, to an extent).

anything for free food

Did they pay?

All the Mormons I've met had never heard of it. I think you may have been part of the some that did know about it.

Hmm

Have you ever had a personal relationship with the true Jesus of the Bible?

Praise the Lord Jesus that He brought you out! I, too rejoice in my own salvation that He showed me in Him, through a personal relationship as the Bible teaches. I was a LDS for about 20 years and a returned missionary. My family is very big and all of my siblings with their families are still in it. Have prayed for them for the time I have been a Christian, (20 years as well.) Keep the faith and the prayers of intercession going! Blessings.

"Why won't they listen" Many people say that on each side of a divide. How is your own listening? At some point people make choices and that's just the way it is.

you obviously have not understood revelation in the church and in the home.

@@thomasmaughan4798 I just saw this reply 11 months later, so apparently listening on RU-vid is not my forte, lol.

@@germanslice Obviously, after reading a short paragraph posted on a RU-vid video, you must understand me well enough to know that I don't understand? Perhaps a discussion rather than accusation would be amazing! ;-)

Read the book of Mormon. Then you'll know what to say.

"my heart just aches because I know I'm about to shatter their whole world.." The kindness of Christians on display.

@@thomasmaughan4798 You will find fault were ever you look for it is what you look for. Is it "unkind" to stop someone from jumping to their death? Is it "unkind" to tell someone the truth? Let me guess, you like your world of lies. You are the most unkind of all creatures. One who will speak "supportive" words to a "friend" as he walks backward off a cliff. The Word of God is clear, If I do not warn you of your folly and you die in your sin, God will ask of me for your blood. Jesus is the Son of God, He died on the cross as to scripiture said, was burried and rose again on the third day as scripture says. Jesus is the only way to salvation. "Not by works lest any man should boast" Jesus is not "just a man" and He certainly isn't the brother of Lucifer. Belief in anything other than Jesus is the path to hell.

@@christiroseify "Is it unkind to stop someone from jumping to their death?" I don't know. On one hand, it seems intrusive, since the person may well be jumping with knowledge of circumstances that you do not possess; perhaps the building is on fire and there's an inflated thing to land on (or water). But assuming that somehow it is your duty to extend the life of a person that does not wish it extended, perhaps suffering from relentless intense pain, well, maybe it is a kindness and maybe not. BUT perhaps it is a teenager with no obvious physical problems and one who could enjoy a fulfilling life and wishes to die only because of her emotions of the moment because she does not know the circumstances. Then it would seem to be a kindness. "Is it unkind to tell someone the truth?" It can be; much depends on your motivation for "telling the truth" and the circumstances. Telling a fat woman that she is fat is probably true, but not kind. Telling someone that the sun is shining and the sky is blue, when all present can see this is indeed the case, is true but not necessary to say. Revealing the existence of something desireable, that you suppose others would also find desirable and appreciate, would seem to be kind BUT that is exactly the reasoning Lucifer gave Eve in the Garden of Eden. "Let me guess, you like your world of lies." I don't but unfortunately the Democrats will always be with us. "You are the most unkind of all creatures." I'm glad to be most of something! "One who will speak supportive words to a friend as he walks backward off a cliff." I suppose so. I could do as so many here demonstrate and speak mean, insultig and hateful words. "The Word of God is clear" I disagree with your premise. Were it clear there would be exactly one church on Earth. "If I do not warn you of your folly and you die in your sin, God will ask of me for your blood." I have a similar command although I approach its implementation very differently. I am not required to warn 7 billion humans. "Jesus is the Son of God" Hooray for agreement on important things. "Jesus is the only way to salvation." Two agreements! Can we go for a third? "Not by works lest any man should boast" Well, okay, settle for two. "Jesus is not just a man and He certainly isn't the brother of Lucifer." So where did each of them come from? Consider carefully your answers. I know they have been made for you but so far not very well thought out.

@@thomasmaughan4798 Okay

no no...not on LSD...on LDS

@@christopherwalls4337 could be the same thing. Lol.

stupid comment.

@borrowed tomb gives money digger a WHOLE NEW meaning,eh??

@@richardholmes7199 Gnostic in the Closet...

Praying for your family! What is impossible with man is possible with God!

@@JackeKarashae thank you brother for the encouragement! God bless.

"Maybe one day they will truly care about truth." I tend to be suspicious of people that claim to have the truth. Seems to be a word too frequently used around here. Do you have a definition of truth?

@@thomasmaughan4798 The definition of truth, according to Jesus, is Himself & the Word of God. John 17:17 “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 1:1,14 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Why doesn't the LDS Church use Joseph Smith's Translation (JST) as its official Bible? Few points to consider: [*] Incomplete Work: Joseph Smith was killed before he could complete the translation. [*] Ownership: The manuscript was initially owned by a different Latter Day Saint movement, complicating its use. [*] Canonical Status: Only portions of JST are canonized in LDS scripture. Despite this, JST is still used in study and footnotes in the LDS edition of the Bible.

EricSmyth14 he mentions about The Message in his Bible Translations video. Not a good one and not much more to say about that. He talks a fair amount about it. It's pretty obviously bad, lol, people know they're looking at an "out there" Bible that's aimed at easy reading. Appreciated reading your comment about the copyright and the "white ghost"! 👍

From what I understand Joseph Smith never finished his translation. A partial translation is not very useful.

The Burning in the bossom to witness truth from heaven from the Father Above or receving revelation from God through the Spirit which causes those burning or warm feelings was taught by Jesus Christ himself in Luke Chapter 24 of the Bible..... It is in the Bible about how one receives revelation from God from heaven to be revealed truth from above. The truth is not revealed by just study of the mind or intellect alone. It can only be revealed by the Father through the Spirit.

You said it Mike. JS didn't speak Hebrew or Greek, so HOW was he qualified to make textual criticism?

John 1:14 in the JST says the Gospel became flesh and dwelt among us because Joe wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Mormon books contradict the Bible and each other.

Keep on the track of your faith brother because The Lord Jesus Christ is the One leading you and He will NOT forsake you EVER, no matter how bad it looks sometimes... You are doing all the right things by seeking His word and looking to good teachers like Mike here. The Lord is putting you where He wants you, at the right time so trust that timing, it's His timing, and He ALWAYS has you prepared with whatever you need to serve Him in faith... like even if it's just 5 stones facing Goliath (and not an ak machine gun) God gives you everything you need right when you need it... just believe Him. You're doing fine kid!!

Not so. Most of the abuse on this page, well so far ALL of it, is from Christians abusing Mormons. You can see my mild responses. Of course, it helps if your reproofs are anywhere near relevant and accurate.

You watch his other videos on that?

Then you condem also John The Revelator who said the everlasting gospel would be coming to the earth to the earth's inhabitants in the latter given by the angel of heaven. So you guys don't have the full truth of the gospel. You have a reformed gospel but you don't have the everlasting gospel. The Latter-day Saints have been given the everlasting gospel from heaven by God.

@@germanslice that is not what Revelation 14 is talking about. Typical Mormon pull scripture and make it fit your false gospel

@@binren3984 The guy that we worship in the church bud has full light and power in him. That is why Elohim is called the Almighty God. The Lord of all Hosts... SO DEAL WITH IT You would be best to just live your religion in peace and live the example that Jesus taught to love one another to prepare for his coming. Instead of wasting your time picking endless holes in people's religions.

Patricia Barrs good, we all need prayers. We pray for you too.

I read this as "If you're a moron, I'll pray for you." I had to verify twice! I've been at my computer for too long today!

@A A How do you defennd an adulterate man 30 times over who rewrites the WORD of GOD? I pray for the Idiots that are stupid enough to believe such a yarn, then defend the liar after he is caught.

@@rickhuntling7338 Careful when you call people in other religions stupid. If you are objecting to what they are teaching as a christian then show some compassion.

Thank Jesus someone is praying for them

You are correct!!!😊 all u have is true. Its sad.

You're just another misinformed person, because God commanded Polgamy with his prophets on certain occasions. its not up to you to decide, its up to God to decide to invoke that law or not on his saints or to revoke it. Most people go through more than one marriage in their whole lifetime, and have more than one set of children in those marriages, and that's why we have multiple marriage sealings in the temple to seal those marriages to their spouses and children because that person had more than 1 marriage in their lifetime when they were alive on earth. Joseph Smith did see God the Father and the Son. While the 12 apostles only heard the voice of the Father speaking from inside the Cloud when with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration and then when they stepped into the Cloud when Jesus told them to enter in, they would've found out the truth that God the Father is inside of the cloud.

@Adam Strickler , oh oh of course! But before He does, Mormons need to hear the true gospel, for how can they know if they have not heard. ❤

@Robert B YHWH draws you to the SON then HE loses none. You grew up in a works based gospel aka different gospel, Gal.1:8. Notice it included Moroni teaching a different gospel. Anyways there is one test that GOD put for himself that no other gods are capable of. That being the only GOD speaking the end from the beginnings in prophecy. I can assure you HE as never failed a thousand times over, 100% accurate every time. Gospel said in a nutshell, "whosoever believeth in me shall never die and I shall raise him on the last day, do you believeth this Robert?" My gifts have been in numbers and signs in the Heavens. I can put Nehemiah recieving the decree in Dan. 9:26 under a blood moon tetrad Passover eve at the 9th hour in 454 bc out to 31 ad ✝️Passover eve with JESUS saying it is finished on the 9th hour exactly 483 years as prophesy. Ezek. 4:1-5 390 years began under the same year 454 bc ending in an iron pan Pompey siege in 63 bc as prophesy. Ezek. 4:6,7 from the ✝in 31 ad out to another iron pan siege in 70 ad 40 years later as prophesy. Notice the arm revealed is the same arm revealed in Isa 53:1, then read the rest of the 12 verses and see the Passion week prophesy. Which leads us back to the week in Dan. 9:27 aka passion week , "and HE (Messiah) shall confirm the covenant (Isa. 55:1-7) with the many (everyone that thirst) for one week (Passion week) and in the midst of the week (Wed.\Thur. Passover eve) HE shall cause the sacrifices and oblation to cease (it is finished) and for overspreading of abomination (the 40 years of continued animal sacrifices) HE shall make it (Jerusalem) desolate (70ad Ezek. 4:6,7) even until the consummation (70th week), and that determined (Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled) be poured upon the desolate (Gospel preached to the children of the desolate, Isa. 54:1).

...and yet, here you are. A grown man still bashing a faith you claim to have rejected. Seems you may still have unfinished business with the Latter-Day Saints. Thanks for leaving on your own so we didn't have to throw you out.

John Lee 🤣🤣🤣 I didn’t know morons were so rude

@@nonplayablecharacter4815 So anyone can bash the Mormons with impunity but if there is a response to the vile bilge, they scream "rude". I guess the hater's door only swings one way...

John Lee I’m allowed to hate on fake things

@@nonplayablecharacter4815 Who "allows" you that? Glad you admit to being a hater...

Well he also did a bit of black magic when he was younger before he "got saved and became a true prophet", but yes I am a huge fan of the hybrid false prophet, magic the mania gathering, theory, I thought I was the only one! Brigham Young though, not so sure of.

kadda1212 He had family members who also had intense dreams and visions.

@@freshbeanne Psychosis and othrr mental illnesses can be inheritable. So that wouldn't surprise me. I had a friend in my youth group who had it as well, and her brother, too. I would also likely be inclined to get something like that, but hopefully it will not happen.

@@pizzapocket7878 I don't know, but Luther was a bit crazy in the sense that he sometimes saw the devil and debated with him, and he had a dark side that he never got rid off which is really disappointing. He was after all an opportunist and encouraged the nobles to bloodily beat down the revolts of the peasants, he was also antisemitic and he propagated euthanasia of disabled children. Despite everything he did for theology he is not the best example figure of a good Christian. He also absolutely did not know how to love his enemies, always cussing and mocking...

He suffered from PTSD during his childhood years associated with his traumatic leg surgery. Combined with a family wrought in "glass-looking", an old fashioned term for socery. He was eventually convicted in the State of NY in 1826. Then later, he joined the Freemasons. Died in jail with a Jupiter talisman in his pocket.

Prophets of God can at anytime make changes to holy writ when God orders it to be done. Take the Incident of Jeremiah with the Scroll the King had burnt in the fire and God ordered Jeremiah to take another scroll and to re-write the words to the king on it.

Chris Schneider Hi are you in a church a bible based church yet?

@@moniquewhite2850 Hi! To be honest with you. I am taking a break from church. I dont like the idea of it. I do however go to bible study and am very active reader. But the mormon church for 17 years kinda drained me.

Chris Schneider, we understand. It is draining. So glad you stay in the Word! ❤ Let God continue to lead you and let Him direct your path. This "break" could very well be His plan for now. Take His Peace!!!😄

@@elizabethking5523 I appreciate it. I actually just moved to NC and found the Navigators. So ive started going to bible study and church with them. Its been a great expierence so far.

@@chrisschneider2393, oh I am glad! Stay strong my Brother! Blessings to you!!😄

Dear HotMess, have you ever had a personal relationship with the true Jesus of the Bible?

La Fe de la Iglesia You need to read the bible i say this with love. because there is only 1 way

@Monique White Thank you for responding! What makes you think I don't read my Bible? Thank you! I even make Bible reviews: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_4pDKHLKRRU.html Blessings!

Thank you very much for helping to expose this fool who doesn't seem to understand that there is only one gospel. It's Christ telling you to follow him. And I have yet to find a Christian group that doesn't teach that, before they teach anything else.

I am a Christian, a Protestant Christian and I think Luther was spot on. He was raised up by God and converted as he read the scriptures. He was a true teacher of the Word of God, he had a passion for the truth of Jesus Christ and for His gospel of eternal salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. Paul taught justification by faith alone (obviously true faith is accompanied or shown by works and not vice versa but it is faith alone that saves Galatians 2:16. That faith must be in Jesus Christ alone and none other for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved Acts 4:12. That faith can only come from hearing the Gospel in the Word of God for faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God Romans 10:17 and the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish but to us who are being saved it is the power of God to salvation 1 Corinthians 1. Whilst one is justified only by faith it is by the grace of God alone that faith is given - for by grace are you saved, by faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God Ephesians 2:8-10 and finally it is to the glory of God alone that we might be to the praise of His glory and grace Ephesians 1 and 2 and that men might see our good works and glorify our Father in heaven.

😂😂😂 I'm Nigerian (with an American accent - and an MK in Europe lol) and I totally feel you

Amen Nate. I don't like when people say African American. I'm black.

Same here, a brazilian who is always asked “are you mexican” 🙄

Black is a CRAYOLA CRAYON be careful how you define your self words can keep you afflicted BA "LACK"

Nate Rivera - Your point should have been "Browns" instead of calling Spanish people Mexicans.

And just what in your twisted thinking makes you think that a book commissioned by a vile murdering king who thought he was gods king is the right one ? So what if the KJV was written 200 years before. Henry the Eighth wrote a version before that, the Catholics bible is at least 1500 years before that . They are all vile, all have errors

@@gowdsake7103 Can you explain how my thinking is twisted? I never said it was the "right one". But it is the one the Mormons use. What do you mean they are all vile and all have errors?

@Craig Laycox Eh, not much of a dialogue. He didn't respond to my questions. I sometimes go back and forth a few times with atheists. If their minds don't change, maybe someone in the comments could change their mind.

If I remember correctly, I'm not sure that reformed Egyptian he was :translating" from was actually a confirmed language to even exist..

@@richardholmes7199 read the CES letter. Many sources prove Book is plagiarized from texts circulating in Joseph Smith,’’s lifetime. Including Captain Kidd book!

People are leaving “the church” as well. People are tired of false religions and are turning to studying and living by The Bible on their own, which is best.

@@CodyCole80 we are called to fellowship with one another, not worship god alone.

There is much in the bible that can be found in the teachings of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of latter-day Saints.

Reconciliation proceeds by the gift of the Holy Ghost. The Book of Mormon tells stories of people that fled Jerusalem when it was attacked by the Babylonians if I remember right. It doesn't really contain a lot of doctrine but does have a few good chapters on the atonement of Jesus Christ and some other things I find useful and explained with clarity. As to changes to the bible, good heavens -- just go to "biblehub" to see how the entire bible has been re-written cover to cover many times. NIV, NASB, KJV and so on.

"could reconcile their doctrine which is not biblically based!" There's about 7000 different churches (denominations) claiming to be bible based. Perhaps its utility as an authority of how to make a church is overrated.

@@thomasmaughan4798 the BoM 5000+ changes with more to come. Translations aren't rewrites. Changing from thee to the or ye to you is hardly a rewrite. Nothing changes the original message or doctrine. Writing yourself in Gen. 50 as to fool people he was prophesy after the fact is a liar and a fraud. Changing Jn. 1:1 to suit Mormon doctrine is blasphemous.

"I never knew Joseph Smith actually made changes to the Bible." Yes and no. I have a King James bible published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and it appears unchanged from any other King James Bible. However, the NIV bible has thousands of changes. So does every version of the bible have thousands of changes. See below. These words are NOT exactly synonymous. For instance, the Lord sometimes "regrets" having made man, but in other translations he was "sorry". But sorry has a connotation of humility and apology *to someone aggrieved* by the action that provoked your apology. How is it possible for an omniscient, omnipotent God to create something and then regret it? It isn't possible. Therefore the story is incomplete or incorrect OR God is not actually omniscient and omnipotent OR there's something else (I mentioned "incomplete"). Suppose someone asks you how it is possible for God to *repent* of anything (Genesis 6:6) New International Version The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. New Living Translation So the LORD was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart. English Standard Version And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Berean Study Bible And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. King James Bible And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. New King James Version And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. New American Standard Bible So the LORD was sorry that He had made mankind on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. NASB 1995 The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. NASB 1977 And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. Amplified Bible The LORD regretted that He had made mankind on the earth, and He was [deeply] grieved in His heart. Christian Standard Bible the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and he was deeply grieved. Holman Christian Standard Bible the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. American Standard Version And it repented Jehovah that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. Aramaic Bible in Plain English And LORD JEHOVAH regretted that he had made Adam in the earth, and he was grieved in his heart. Brenton Septuagint Translation then God laid it to heart that he had made man upon the earth, and he pondered it deeply. Contemporary English Version He was sorry that he had made them, Douay-Rheims Bible It repented him that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart,

I see u everywhere, lol

I went through a phase where I justified Joseph by saying "Everyone is a false prophet relative to Christ. " It's a spin I think they should use haha

"and every man a Liar." No doubt but perhaps excepting Pastor Mike?

Literally spells out LGBT!! 😜🌈😜

Well said

The best way is to read the book Mormon and identify all of the spiritual principles that are taught in it that you disagree with.

"how can I witness the Bible to them and try to show them the real truth?" The question is presumptuous on the face of it. Why do you believe YOU have truth and they do not? This is the first arrogance to avoid, and yet it is inescapable; since they will do the same with you.

By the holy spirit

"I would love to get ordained by real Christian authority n continue my ministries." Very few Christian denominations accept the existence of Christian authority. Catholics have it, more or less, unless the east pope and the west pope succeeded in excommunicating each other which nullified that authority completely. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a credible claim of authority. You can disbelieve it, but at least it has a claim, and knows how it obtained authority. No protestant denomination has authority and so far as i know they do not claim it. That's different from a church government; in other words, the Lutherans can organize a *church* and among themselves decide what are the qualifications of a Lutheran priest. But whether any of that is approved by Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is a lot less obvious.

@@thomasmaughan4798 Hey Thomas, I am part of the Lutheran Church (LCMS), and I want to understand what you mean by “among themselves decide”. If I understand what you mean by that, then that is an incorrect understanding of how the Lutheran church ordains Pastors.

@@SamuelMoerbe I mean that the Lutherans decide the qualifications for a Lutheran priest, the Mormons decide for themselves what are the qualifications of a Mormon priest, and the Catholics choose among themselves the qualifications of a Catholic priest (and so on). Seems obvious. But what happens in the comment to which I was responding is people sometimes allow Catholics to determine for Mormons or vice versa what ought to be the qualifications for each other. With that clearly in mind, take it one step farther; if one church does not specify the procedure for ordaining other church's priests, how then does any church arrogate to decide for GOD who is to be a priest and what it takes to be one? Throughout the bible (and not limited to the bible but I use it as an example) certain prophets or priests just appear and one takes it on faith that Melchizedek, for instance, not only was a high priest but had authority from God. There is no objectively certain way to know; people therefore make a choice and hope for the best, hope that the atoning power of Christ covers the possibility that you chose incorrectly BUT in good faith proceeded to love God and love your neighbor.