How a "Progressive Christian" Pastor BUTCHERS John  

No he said "eat this and you'll be gods" Jesus said "know ye not I said ye are gods"

@Infinity CrusadeYou praise the Lord of darkness yet you see using light, checkmate satanists.

The fact that simple posts like this can draw Satanists and the like to our conversations....shows they needed to be here for a reason. Bless them for finding how to get to the light. ❤

@@Michaelh76 that is kind of how I understand it as well we have God like powers in the image of God and have free will as God has free will we are also free to choose hell and choose to be our own gods and we will suffer the punishment for doing so because we chose it, because we cannot fathom or appreciate or choose salvation through Jesus Christ, for some reason some cannot accept the gift. I choose the gift even though I am completely undeserving I will still accept the gift the trick is acting grateful being truly grateful and living one's life out in that gratitude of salvation.

@Infinity Crusade said the ascended masters and mystery School Babylon...

You summarized it perfectly! 😂 This guy is just religion hopping and calling it Christianity, zero truism to the scriptures

The devil tends to use a variety of resources when making sermons.

Covering all the bases.

Thoughts on Romans 8:17?

@@michaelsorensen7567 I'm certainly not on Pastor Mike's level of being able to answer questions on the fly, but I'll try my best here. Just reading the passage around that verse, it seems primarily to be about living a life forsaking sin. Paul mentions in verse 13 that if we live according to the flesh we will die, but if we, by the Spirit, put to death the deeds of the flesh we will live. Dying and living in this context seem to refer to the next life. Verse 14 says those led by the Spirit are God's sons, verse 15 says we are sons because we have received the spirit of adoption. Verse 16 says the Holy Spirit Himself testifies to this adoption. Verse 17, if children, then heirs of God with Christ. Side note, it doesn't say we *are* Christ. Now, it says we are children and heirs IF we suffer with Him. What does it mean to suffer with Christ? Obviously, Paul isn't saying we should all suffer crucifixion - besides, that would be suffering *as* Christ, not *with* Christ. It seems that he is referring to being rejected by this world as we live our lives for Christ. This seems to flow nicely between rejecting the sins of the flesh, in the beginning of the chapter, with all of creation (and ourselves) groaning for the redemption from this life and the redemption of our bodies at the end of the chapter. That's my quick understanding (and 2 Corinthians 1:5-7 seem to agree). Now I have to get off my phone and get back to work. :) Cheers!

It’s so interesting because the Bible is quite clear on sexual immorality, and that the Bible permits sex only in the context of marriage, which is explicitly between a man and a woman, with the intention of multiplying.

Something that has been really helpful for me to spot false prophets lately is really studying the Bible and knowing the Word It was difficult to see before but now, armed with knowledge of the Word, we can better fight and slay falsehoods like the one in the video

Who is ordaining these people?!

What about being.

They merely want a lie that can reaffirm the lifestyle that know is sinful and degenerate. And the bible does not reaffirm that lie, so they have to try and twist it.

It's a scourge. These "pastors" have forsaken the Bible in order to twist it in order to fit their sensitive, modern, and degenerate sensibilities.

❤ you're all fortunate to have access to the information you need day or night

I can give you some good pastors to name a few I recommend, Billy Ghram, Tony Evans, Charles Stanley , Paul washer. Richard Lorenzo is a young pastor but has good sermons , videos and messages as well.

Always go to the source. Always go to the Bible

Exodus 20:7 In Context "Do not use my name for evil purposes, for I, the Lord your God, will punish anyone who misuses my name"

Yeah, that’s a big ol’ OOF

Witness Lee's church, "The Lord's Recovery" believes this.

Just as satanic as dragon ball...

@@jacobdiscipleofjesusforeve419 is dragonball a religion? Does that mean marvel, dc, friends, I love lucy, Andy Griffith, happy days, ect are these religions or entertainment?

He should have added a so above so below to really drive home the satanicness about it Still can't believe I read that in the passion? Or was it the message translation? 🤔

@Doow XI, me too 🤣🤣

Same, lol

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

And you are spiritually ignorant....the prophets were amateur gods

we are gods, do you see animals building super structures and particle colliders? no... we are gods in the divine form. you don't want to be god because you are a child of god... a CHILD... children shun responsibility but not I which is why I will embrace the truth.

Measure EVERYTHING against the scriptures. If you are not sure, keep looking. People like Mike Heiser and Mike Winger are a good place to start. Not saying EVERYTHING they say is chiseled in stone truth, but I've never heard them say anything blasphemous or heretical. Some denominations may see things differently, but they still have the basic gospel down pat. You might also want to check Dr. J. Vernon McGee, and Mr. Les Feldick, Adrian Rogers and similar folks. At least you won't get anything too radical with those guys. 🙏✝️🙏

Yes yes yes! Even me I know scripture pretty well (not boasting!!) and even sometimes I find myself asking myself oh my goodness am I right? After talking to a Muslim or morman or Jehovah witness. But then I refer back to Scripture and yes we are right Jesus is God and Jesus is the ONLY way. it is CRUCIAL CRUCIAL to know scripture extremely well and understand context EXTREMELY well.

Exactly! You won't be able to see the false doctrine, especially if the preacher is a smooth talker if you don't know God's word for yourself

Ironically, Winger here has a woeful lack of such knowledge.

I agree the best way to do that is listen to the audio book Bible and experience it being read to you.

Sounds like word of faith teaching (prosperity gospel) when I became a Christian I was deep into word of faith and believed that same way. Bless you for getting away. God saved me from it years ago praise God

Kenneth Copeland teaches that we are all little gods

That's a very false doctrine spreading all over the place. praise God you weren't deceived

​@@marilynmiller5075 I saw a clip of of him saying that, I was floored!!

Sounds like dude is looking to have his own tv program one day.

i'm stealing this for next time someone says that

Why is it that the far out liberal Christians always reject the council of Nicea?

Well there's nothing wrong with namaste. It's just the Indian version of hello. But it isn't the equivalent of Amen. But I can understand the message you want to give. This Sal fellow is surely dangerous and all Bible-believing Born-Again Christians should call him out and warn the church against this heretic.

@@joshduthie3401 because they believe in Da Vinci's code more than the Bible.

😂

It’s like he wants to know Jesus but he’s not done with living in the new age movement

It's also apart of Luciferian , simplified: believing we are gods

Not sure if you delved into Buddhist sutras and suttas but this is not Buddhism. There is quite the vast difference from Buddhism in terms of orthodox Buddhist views and new age syncretized Buddhism. “Divine Self, all of you are gods” is something someone may post with a Buddha picture as a quote but has no authority or real authenticity in the Suttas and such. An idea of ‘self’ is the very delusion which keeps trapped in worldly delusion. The whole ideal of Buddhistic view is to end the idea of ‘self’ and worldliness [eight worldly winds and the fetters of carnality]. I’m saying this in the view of a religious study not as someone who prescribes to one view fighting another so don’t mistake that from me here. But as someone who studies religion it is quite a problem to see new age western-Buddhist syncretism mixed with Orthodox Buddhism and then generalizing all of Buddhism (whether in the Theravada or Mahayana schools) with western new age influenced movements which does glorify the self and self-desire [the very obstacle to liberation per Buddhist text)

Buddist is about deniying yourself, he speak about "embrace or divine self" is just the postmodern spiritual trash

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Eh, easy to forget as a pastor, is it not?

Me too! I felt the same when I heard the (not my father) Francis saying believing you can have a personal relationship with Jesus outside of the Roman Church, is dangerous and harmful. Francis is another antichrist. (anti being "in place of" Jesus)

That is exactly what Satan wants to do. Make a mockery of the Gospel. Just look at the way he words the scripture when he tempts Jesus in the desert. Satan knows what is written in the Bible and he knows how to twist it so it looks like foolishness. He has false prophets all throughout the church. Progressive church and prosperity church are 2 most severe of these.

I'm literally sitting here listening to this garbage with my mouth open in pure shock!

Salvatore translates to "savior"

Exactly, when you aren't blessed/capable of making your own greatness, you must try to ruin all greatness in your jealousy

How do you know what Satan believes?

@@christophersnedeker2065 the bible says about that one that he comes only to steal, kill and destroy. His intentions are never stated to be good or of God. His beliefs is that he thought he could overthow God and tempt the Son of Man, make God's image disobey God and bring chaos to the world. The serpent said "You shall not die, rather you will be like God knowing good and evil". No creature can be likened to God according to the bible. Only God can be likened to God.

When Jesus made the statement "you are gods" he was talking to his disciples, not the whole church. Many Christians will spend eternal life on Earth which is still Gods kingdom.

@@christophersnedeker2065 "how do you know" Jesus stated, the demons know God and tremble, it stands to reason if demons know God, so does satan.

@@technicianbis5250 To know God is to love, they know about God.

Right! Haha then he sips coffee

Yeah that was so quick and witty. I thoguht i was the one to say that in my mind soemhow.... 😅

@@kevinschaefer3945 it was a funny moment. I was driving coffee as I watched this. So, it was funny mike reacted similar to how I did.

@@haileylindberg4365 My bad. I will retract it. Please forgive me.

@@kevinschaefer3945 Of course! Online communication is weird. As an ex LDS I enjoy by coffee and pickling apart bad theology! I've been a Christian for 17 years praise God!!

Matthew 7:21-23

But evil people and impostors will flourish. They will deceive others and will themselves be deceived. 2 Timothy 3:13 NLT

@John Brawner Feliz 0 seconds ago The word "Elohim" was translated "God." The word Elohim meaning is "powers" in the original biblical hebrew. In Psalms one read that we are little "gods"which means "little powers" The creator is the only one that has all the powers. The letter "J" was invented in the year 1500 and implemented after the year 1611 so the name "jesus"did not existed and he is never mentioned in the old testament, and by the way the title "old testamnt" is not the real title but rather Torah which means "instructions" Learn biblical hebrew while still free on youtube i am an ex christian converting to true judaism escape!

The problem is, Winger and other fanatical "Christians" worship Christ as a god.

There are so many false teachers. I can see how people who are lost and seeking God or new Christians can get so very confused

Keep studying!!

Exactly!

And he basically says the same thing Satan said that you can "see as gods."

Isn't this the first sin of the Bible, to be God.

That's exactly what I thought. The serpent's lie.

The devil never changes his strategies

Amen!

If youre going to make up your own god and religious framework why use the Bible at all? So bizarre

Thank you for sharing ❤️ I’m so glad you came out of that! God is mighty to save!

Also fell for Neville Goddard and his twisting of scripture. It wasn’t until I read the Bible that I found out how deceitful his teachings are. My heart aches for all whom follow him & the LOA coaches. 💔

Praise God!

@@andar_k1194 the best lies have an element of truth. And there are still many people who were raised to believe that the Bible is important but haven't read it much (if at all).

Good! Then you are on the right track. The Holy Spirit protects us from this sort of false teachings

Good for you! Stay in the word! The Bible says “ these words, I will hide in my heart that I might not sin against God”!

Thats a good sign

He is filled with an antichrist spirit - demonic.

Go and read the gospels of Jesus Christ, do not look for milk here, robbers and wolves will poison it so they may feel mighty.

Praying for you and your mother.

@@benry007 praying as well for your mother

Im praying for you and your mother as well.

I cannot imagine the pain that you are experiencing. It must be similar to watching a loved one overdosing again and again. Never knowing if this will be the last time you will ever see them again. The heart wrenching knowledge that they are self destructing and you feel as if you have no power to stop it. The fact that they are adults and have made this decision doesn’t make us feel any better. You just want to make everything better. To know they are safe. I am so sorry you are going through this and my heart goes out to you. As Christians, we want nothing more than knowing our loved ones are safe in Jesus’ arms. So I pray that you seek out the comfort that only Jesus can give you and rest in the knowledge that he knows your pain and will walk through this with you. 🙏

Praying as well. I deal writ the same problem

Agreed!

As a student of theology I've studied many religions they are all cheap knockoffs of the one truth which is in the words Of Jesus. Satan has been tricking people since the beginning of time. Many have a virgin birth due to his tricks. Take Thor half man half god

@@JoelPit so true. Watch America to Babylon, and truth unedited explains what you’re saying as well. In a Buddhist temple, there is a painting of Buddha, and if you ask the monks they will tell you that it’s a painting of a “demon” sitting above Buddha. It’s right in people’s faces, yet they still think “Christianity is the knock off”

@@JoelPit I also know that witches worship moon goddess SO MUCH, as well as how pagans worship the “sun god” and “moon goddess” all the same different variations. Same thing with the teachings in masonry. It’s all satanic.

@@orangeblossom9279 I said this to a 3rd degree Mason boy was he mad I responded prove it wrong and I ll apologize well I haven't had to yet. That was 3 years ago

Yes, that kills me too... as if to insinuate something had expired, or was incorrectly translated.

Amen!!

We were warned not to accept a new or different Gospel in the bible , 2 corinthians 11:4 - For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. And Galatians 1:8 - But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

"A story retold for a modern audience"

Very disturbing

PandaBooty Praise God that He delivered you out of the new age cult! And I couldn't have put it better myself.

He has a sermon on chakras and he says he’s not preaching new age? SMH

And how the crowd just laughed ... Totally deceived.💔

THE IRONY 😳

I was a New Ager and deeply into the Law of Attraction. I even taught how to "manifest your own reality." I too was convinced that Jesus said we were gods and would do even greater things than he. It took a long time and a major wakeup call to realize that this kind of teaching would land me in hell. "Progressive Christianity" is a misnomer because what it actually is, is "Satanism lite." It's the exact same pride-filled seduction that the serpent whispered into Eve's ear in the Garden. The devil isn't really creative; he's been repeating the same lie for millennia: Do this, and you can be like God. Time is running out to play around; the time is here to choose sides. There's no more time for lukewarmness and a non-committal attitude. You're either on God's side or on Satan's side-there is no middle ground.

Lutheranism is basically Catholicism Lite. It suffers from many of the same problems, and only remedies the ones Martin himself couldn't stomach.

Love CS lewis man

Mere christianity pretty much condensed 20 years of Sunday service in a single book.

just bought the book so great

CS Lewis was right

Excellent point!

That’s what I was thinking!

I'm not sure if it will be THAT crazy... but who knows 😁

nah. this is whatthe elites want it to look like, but this has no meat. it cannot survive against religions with millennia of momentum

Nah itll be focused on one man

Most likely!

I did the same thing!

Me to I was so upset that he would dishonor my beautiful LORD Jesus Christ 🙏,I hope he gets called out for the heretic he is !!

Most people don't read for themselves. They think hearing the pastor is how they are supposed to learn.

The fact that you yelled "blasphemy" at the first word he said says a lot more about you than it does about him. If Christ were alive today, you'd be yelling the same thing at him.

😂😂😂

He's a grifter, but how is he much different than the weird stuff you believe in?

@@KendraAndTheLaw The criticism here isn't that he believes in "weird stuff", but that he is dishonest. He is being deceptive in how he uses the Bible and how he presents his case.

@@KendraAndTheLaw he's a heretic who crated his own belief from his huge misunderstanding of the Bible. Thats the difference

@@Moshugaani It's not dishonesty if he's honestly that stupid! 😂

Mike Winger isn't a pastor, he's a social media influencer. If he's a clergyman, then Jeffery Dahmer was a chef.

Yes! 👏

Separation of the sheep and the goats, the wheat and the tares, we knew this day would come near at the end of the age.

These kinds of thoughts and teachings is the "ear tickling" we were told of and warned of in the Scriptures. I am astonished at how MANY "Christians" follow such blasphemous and heretical theologies! I honestly never realized that until recently. Ever since I realized that, I have been praying for those who are being les astray open their Bibles and see what is going on. God Bless

@@anonymousone2843 Jesus said, "My sheep know my voice". So I would question the word "Christians" to describe people that would be enticed by this kind of theology.

Amen to that!

Amen!!

👏👏👏👏👏👏 well said Alan.

Fully agreed ... be a Berean. Amen

Amen. I always ask questions if I don't understand something. I've unintentionally stumped my pastor a couple times. But he has a humble spirit and we both go to the scripture and pray about. Pastors are people too and don't always know all the answers.

@WTFW yeah and that why old jews was against that so much. And that why desire to be gods is prinal sin. Basicaly if there is no God than people are gods. Cause we are next in line to claim that since we are most powerful in solar system. ANd I believe in ancient times during so called god kings of Babylon, jews saw how suck it is, and how deluded those leaders are. That why in Jews laws basicaly even kings were seen as necesary evil, and when man claimed to be god it was most bigest sin. By belive in One True Abstract God they show that men cant be gods, and that also help to seprate church and state. Since those kings cant be head of church again and so they cant be god kings of old. Basicaly jews belive if people wont worship God they would worship those god kings, or god kings would force them to worhip themself. But idea of human are gods is so ridicolus and just prove of actully of God exist in a way: cause it cant be people are supreme existance in universe. Cause we so falwed, than how he can call ourself perfection. What are we dieng gods of dieng world? That just beyond stupidity by any logick. With all those idol worshiping and all those gokings who exist even in our times: North korea leaders forth people belive that they are gods. You start to beter understand comendment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me".

@@rimanm6934 When you mentioned flawed, it’s beyond most people’s imagination how true that is from a genetic standpoint. I encourage one to learn about the ways mutations and evolution is not at all survival of fittest, it’s just survival long enough for reproduction.

@WTFW How do you "think" Satan "knew" it from the beginning?

@Azreth "I resent that you condemn Joseph Smith" Maybe you should stop resenting and start examining what Smith did, and how what he did was against scripture.

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

I have an eleven year old daughter, myself. I like the idea of spotting the wrong teachings in bad sermons for biblical teaching. Thanks.

This would've been great in Bible study as a kid, thank you for this idea!

I'm gonna do that too. My 8 year old daughter, and an 11 year old boy we are currently ministering too. Son of a widow. Thanks for the idea 💡🙂

That's actually a really cool teaching idea. I'm going to use that when I have kids someday.

I give you an assignment now show your son the same theology in contemporary Christian music and see if you can find this music also promoting these ideas.

Gnosticism repackaged as "New Age."

That's the problem with all believing groups referring in any way to the bible, while butchering it.

My former pastor said it every week. We’ve all been taught wrong but he knows the REAL interpretation.

Thousands of years of scholarly study from many qualified teachers, but we needed him to tell us the true interpretation 😂

I know, the audacity of some people. He's also saying he knows the "real" meaning behind the bible than the apostles who wrote them themselves. I mean make it make sense.

Exactly

"Jesus claiming he's God is soooo narcissistic! What he's actually saying is that *I'M* God. :)"

His own interpretation of it is narcissistic, which completely baffles me. So he says narcissism is bad, yet his own belief is narcissistic by nature.

That's in essence what cause the Pharisees to declare Jesus committed blaspheme. Nothing new under the sun.

Amen

AMEN!!

I naturally have concern about my own Judgement (as we all Christians ponder over when growing in our faith), but I would never want to be in that man's shoes.

And one thing we can definitely learn from this is that we can not become like God, but can become like this guy. We must all remember Mathew 23:12 "For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."

Pray for him, pray for him; so he may realize his incorrect teachings. God guided us and WE ALL SHOULD know that he will lead our brothers and sisters. Don't worry, pray!

The sad thing is he may be the reason some people will reject salvation because he blatantly said we don't need it. Pray for him and his congregation to see the truth.

Amen!

And that's how you know they've never read a lick of actual Scripture.

100%

Here is the apostasy

Because Christianity has, for centuries, been a social club. That time is over.

@Fisher Man I said nothing about me. Please apologize and repent for your false assumptions and slander. Let's see what your church and gospel are about. 😉

KL I am curious as to what you mean by this. Christianity is not a social club, it is a way of life wherein one submits themselves to God and His will. Now, I know there are and have been plenty of people who treat Christianity like a social club, but that is not true Christianity.

KL Also, regarding your response to Fisher Man. Please understand that this is not an in-person discussion, it is extremely easy to misunderstand people when all you have is words on a screen. He was hasty in his response sure, but please understand that misunderstandings happen, and that it is better between us Christians to correct each other with patience and love, rather than being competitive and antagonistic towards each other. This goes for both "sides" of course.

Good advice!

🙏 ⭐ We should ALL gather in our Homes ... ⭐ EVERY day in another Home .... studying the Bible, eating together, singing together and praying the Psalms of David 🙏 That would save us AND our children ⭐ 🙏

@Azreth Gen 3:22 says they have become like him, in that the knowledge of good and evil is a trait that God also has (and until that point only God had that knowledge), humans have it now to but that doesn't make them gods. In Ps 82 the context is that these are not actually gods because they "will die like mere mortals." God will exercise His authority over them. Then in John, Jesus is making the argument that if these people were referred to as gods than how much more does He, the One God sent into the world, deserve that title.

If you are created in the likeness of God, as God is, would you die? Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

I thought he said you are God's, not Gods.

@@leftisland2603 There is a possibility that that's what he meant, however, in the context of the rest of the sermon, and this guy's views, I doubt it.

Not sure if the guy(the progessive Pastor) was refering to this verse “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:34-38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬. Or “I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭82:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ But the rest of things he said was bad pizza because you do need Jesus Christ in your live to be saved.

Yes, God adopted me when Jesus saved me and I was born again back in 61.

The only good thing about it is that anyone who decided to take the bible and read for themselves and understands English will immediately see the lies! It doesn't take a theologian to see it

@@mlokole254 I agree. I much prefer this outlandish heresy than subtle heresy since it is so much easier to spot.

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

Bless you brother Michael

Can you tell us what kind of church you were in?

@@mechadoggy UCC

@@mrmcgowan Ah, that makes a lot of sense. That was Obama’s denomination if I recall.

Yes, there is nothing more frightening than hearing someone reduce the Gospel to some sort of "get out of jail free" card for everyone. It is sad because this man will be responsible for dragging others down with him. Heartbreaking.

except that there is nothing at all "new" about it; he definitely is though

@TheRepentingPart Correct. This is essentially my point. Despite featuring the word "new," it is not that.

Said while wearing a new age vestment...

Funny, it "almost" looks like he fully don´t understand what everything New Age is (and that there is nothing new about it).

Exactly…🤦‍♂️ All I can say is, God bless him and everyone he is leading astray. 🙏

Example of. Luke 21: 8 2 Cor 11: 14

I heard him say that and immediately thought “May God have mercy on that man’s soul.”

He's wrong, but so are you. Lordship salvation is works salvation. Mike Winger also is a false prophet who preaches works salvation but denies it. And non kjv modern perversions, goes hand and hand.

@@islandcave8738 I’ve never heard Mike preach any such nonsense. But, I haven’t watched everything he’s put out nor do I look to him for leadership.

Fair but isn't that also true for churches today? They depend on the pastor to interpret the Bible in sermons and messages. The Bible has si much treasure to unpack but i understand why people rely on pastors because it can be a lot to handle and seems almost intimidating to start the search.

To be fair, modern Christianity in general is pretty much dependent on people not reading their Bibles for themselves.

Or those who read it but have poor reading comprehension.

No one reads the Bible in America.

There are so many false teachers and the Bible says in the last days even the Elect can be fooled! Most is twisted scripture based feel good teachers! Cultists take a verse and give it their own spin. Whole false religions are formed this way. This is why Mormons add Books and J W's have their own Bible written to twist God's Word!!! So sad, many thousands deceived!

Pray for them by all means , but dont feel sorry for them. They are there because they have rejected the truth and find this heresy appealing to their degenerate lifestyles.

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

@@victoriahebert3073 How do you know your beliefs about God are correct? It seems like merely a coincidence that you believe what you do. If you would have been born in Iran you would be praying to Allah 5 times a day. If you would have been born before the Bible was written you would have been polytheistic. If you would have been born before the Reformation you would have been confessing to the priest. If you were born in Israel you wouldn't believe Jesus is the messiah. If you look at human history, very few people have been given the truth that you claim.

@@victoriahebert3073 "There are so many false teachers and the Bible says in the last days even the Elect can be fooled!" "For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect." Matt. 24: 24 Jesus does not say the elect will be deceived, He says that we would be deceived if that were possible. He's saying that the lies will be so convincing, that only those who do not know the truth will be deceived.

righteous anger is good anger.

Exactly!! The true Holy Spirit will direct once you truly accept Jesus. Do not ignore that

My soul absolutely SCREAMING. Look how evil his eyes are. This is the point where my bothers and sisters get upset with me because I have 0 patience for this kind of thing. Scripture tells us to have love and pray for our enemies, problem is, those "enemies" mentioned are mortal men in respect to war and conflict. When you have someone who claims to be a preacher and a Christian, then says this type of stuff.... debate, biblical correction, conversation stops. There is no conversation to be had. That man and the Brandon guy are actual evil. The damage they will cause to our actual brothers and sisters is rarely recovered. That guy and the Brandon guy are demonic control level evil. They are very lucky to live in America, so use your imagination.

This rubs me the wrong way. It scares me because these false teachers are trying to break apart the flock, it’s like staring into the eyes of a wolf waiting to pounce. It is highly concerning.

Interesting point. My eight year old watch this with me and while I felt that same feeling in my soul my son jumped to his feet and asked Daddy what is that guy saying. That was the little excerpt in the first minute. Those who know the true Word immediately feel the horror of preaching like this. Sure serves to strengthen my faith while this false prophet sought to do the opposite.

Are you taking the truth from this guy or directly from God and the spirit of God. What scripture are you using.

Satan already had him.

Satan dressing up as a progressive Christian...that’s what he’s doing in most churches today!

@@barrjensen Have you been to most churches?

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Psalm 82:6 I have said, 'You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' John 10:34 34 Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came- and the Scripture cannot be broken- 36then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?… Only if we are - as body - connected to our Godhead, Yeshua/Jesus, only if we are receiving fresh revelation (Bread) from Him, this is so. ON OUR OWN, WE ARE NOTHING but dust!

@@GladysRWhite It’s a short psalm, I suggest you read the whole thing: Ps 82:5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” 8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

I used to fail wrapping my mind around the prophesy about one world religion, and here it is in the flesh 🤷 "Jesus isn't the only way to salvation". If it's not Jesus then what are we supposed to be saved from??? 🤷

yup. or rather, he claimed the traditional reading of the text makes him one.

I fail to understand them at all. If I claim I am the most powerful and it's true, it can never be a boast. A boast asserts something that is not true, how the hell is a statement of truth a narcissistic boast?

@@ceasedesist9676 it's not about consistency, it's about hating the gospel in new and creative ways

Yes, and he literally said that the traditional (and, um, REAL) Jesus-centered gospel "is not today's gospel", probably implying that we understand the gospel more than before, but what a significant Freudian slip it actually is. This man is scary. Satan telling Adam and Eve, "your eyes will be opened and you will be like God" (Gen. 3:5) is pretty much the mold for this guy's "gospel"; what an abomination. The idea of this supposed awakening to our own divinity by reinterpreting God's word while disobeying what He actually commanded us to do... is eerily familiar. How did that turn up for Adam and Eve and the rest of us?

@@monicaalba1127 Amen! Well stated!

I’m sorry, it is so hard when our spiritual leaders fail us or deceive us. Sounds like God wanted to let you know he’s with you through this (by the timing of Mike posting this video). Praying for you and the false teacher that used to be your pastor.

I hope and pray you find a better church home with a pastor that preaches God's word without compromise. I also pray that whatever you are in the hospital for you have a speedy recovery

Hope you get well soon. As with your pastor...there probably has been other things going on that you didn't see. Cognitive dissonance is a hard pill to swallow.

I've walked out of Church because of things like this.

Run!

I completely agree with you. Listening to charlatans like this knucklehead makes my skin crawl. It’s even worse when I realize that he actually believes the excrement he is peddling.

It’s nice to know I am not alone😠. I was yelling at my iPad, ready to throw it across the room listening to that!

Well, I wouldn’t be cussing but I would definitely be praying and warning others.

Sometimes I wonder if that's exactly how "Rev Sal" would want you to react. Then he gets to call you a hater, and a bunch of other progressive epithets. Try to let the offense of true Christianity be the only offense they can prove. And Mike does it far better than I ever could.

@@andrews042 Andrew, thank you for your concern. I honestly don’t care what he thinks of me personally, but I do know that we have to draw a line somewhere. We have become so afraid of hurting someone’s feelings that we don’t stand up for what is right. I cannot control how someone reacts to a situation, but I can determine how much I can take before I draw a line in the sand. We are so nice that our beliefs are being eradicated from around the world, in our schools, and from our children. And I have been told by my own father that I am too nice. So I understand why we don’t react when others are mean to us. But there comes a time when someone has to say that this is wrong. When did we become such cowards? If we don’t stand up for our ideals, who will? It is the people who create the most noise that get attention. Not us who are afraid to offend. We don’t speak up for fear We don’t say anything thinking people won’t like us or will ostracize us, which many think is much worse. We want to get along with everyone. However, I have never followed the crowd or wanted to be part of a click. Since I was five years old, I have followed Jesus and Jesus alone. I thought that he was the best example for me to emulate and have never changed my mind. Nor, in my 66 years, have I ever met anyone who didn’t respect me for my choice. Taking a stance and not budging earns respect. They may never like you but they will respect your decision. Haters will hate. I have not and will never own that. Their response is their responsibility. I am not confrontational as a rule. I stand where I stand. They may walk around me but they can’t go through me. I will show compassion when it is due. Help when I can. But I don’t change my mind about Jesus. If speaking graciously doesn’t work, we will have to be more direct. I believe that this man has heard everything possible to refute his beliefs. He has chosen to denigrate everything associated with Christianity while still claiming to be a church of Christ. Do you honestly think that anything we have to say will change his mind? Only a miracle will redirect his path. He is so encased in Satan’s grasp that nothing short of Jesus himself will change his mind. I find him frightening. When I watched his video, it felt as if Satan himself was reaching out to crab everyone in sight. I have only felt that a few times in my life and never want to experience it again. I prayed for hours before I could go to sleep. This man is the embodiment of everything that Satan represents. He shrouds it in love and understanding. It is a beautiful garment that covers all the things that are perverted and rotting to the soul. It looks fantastic while it eats at you like acid. I honestly don’t think that what I say will ever effect him, but I pray that they may reach just one person to save them from his grasp. Thank you again for your intercession on my behalf. Claudia