How King Gizzard use Odd Time Signatures, Polyrhythm & Polymeter

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King Gizzard are well known for their use of odd time signatures, polyrhythms and polymeters so today we are going to take a closer look at how these techniques are put to work in their 2017 album "Polygondwanaland".
I've used Moises app to help analyze this album. Their stem separation tool is great for removing or isolating instruments from songs. With this app, you can also find chords, and change the key or the tempo of a song, amongst other features which make it a great tool for learning or analysing songs.
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0:00 King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard
0:27 Crumbling Castle
1:00 Polygondwanaland
1:51 The Castle In The Air
4:03 Deserted Dunes Welcome Weary Feet
4:30 Polymeter vs. Polyrhythm
6:33 Inner Cell
7:24 How to analyze songs with Moises
8:18 Loyalty
9:27 Horology
9:54 Tetrachromacy
10:57 ...Searching
12:13 The Fourth Colour
14:30 5/4 car alarm
15:54 Patreon

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@conjonpo1896 Месяц назад

How incredible is it that King Gizz released this album into the public domain and also made 4 other albums in 2017.

@Syncop8rNZ Месяц назад

It was an interesting time...

@hman2912 Месяц назад

A lot of music had to come out

@ster2600 Месяц назад

The album is NOT public domain. It's not even commons. Its licence is something along the lines of "you can make copies freely as long as you don't modify them at all".

@sharpvidtube Месяц назад

25 albums in 12 years, some musicians struggle to make 3 in that time. So experimental too, they aren't just repeating themselves.

@lowly.8776 Месяц назад

Burnout gonna be a hell of a time

@charleighh.990 Месяц назад

I'm a 70's Rocker and this is YES On STERIODS. LOVE IT!

@boomshankah1123 Месяц назад

More like Daevid Allen and Gong than Yes.

@bernhardkrickl3567 Месяц назад

I got some Caravan vibes on some songs, although Caravan don't go as crazy with the rhythms.

@onurb59 Месяц назад

Gentle Giant also..

@scifiordie Месяц назад

Yes doesnt suck, dor the most part

@IHateNumbersOnNames Месяц назад

fuck, your typo gave me the idea for a band name... Stereoids.

@thedudepersonguy9725 Месяц назад

I can tell these guys are slowly becoming one of your favorite bands

@christopherrice6804 Месяц назад

resistance is futile

@phil0x2e Месяц назад

I can tell these guys are ̶s̶l̶o̶w̶l̶y̶ rapidly becoming one of ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ our favorite bands

@boomerbear7596 Месяц назад

The personal observation I've made with these time signatures is that 7/4 and 7/8 somehow sound more normal and more natural than 5/4 and 5/8; it feels to me as if 7/4 is to 5/4 as 4/4 is to 3/4. What I've noticed in the examples here though is that King Gizzard has a talent for actually making 4/4 sound like an odd meter whenever it appears!

@zarzaparrilla67 Месяц назад

They also have the talent to make odd time signatures sound like usual time signatures. Every song in Polygondwnanaland is a bad example because they're meant to sound complex, but other songs like the river in 5/4 or the wheel in 7/8 sound really natural.

@ramunayy Месяц назад

getting super into king gizzard made me really interested in odd time signatures, and songs like wah wah or the river make 5/4 sound super natural. you count it in your head and it's disjointed but the melodies in those songs make it so natural

@prince4rslan Месяц назад

@@zarzaparrilla67 Different time signatures make no difference in what you hear, they exist to organize the written music

@fossiltortoise Месяц назад

LETS GO DAVID MADE ANOTHER GIZZ VID WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@GreatJinjonator Месяц назад

lmao thats a sick pfp

@fossiltortoise Месяц назад

@@GreatJinjonator 12-dragonic bruise

@leonardoroscelli4385 Месяц назад

Incredibly based

@brunaodavila Месяц назад

It won't be long until the world recognizes these dudes as the greatest band of this generation

@srpalme449 Месяц назад

Based

@herschoolcolors Месяц назад

The bar is so low it’s basically lying on the ground.

@wheresmycar9559 Месяц назад

@@herschoolcolors cope, cry, seethe

@herschoolcolors Месяц назад

@@wheresmycar9559 Next time you’re copy/pasting stuff you’ve seen other ppl say on Reddit and Twitter, maybe try using it where it makes even a little bit of sense.

@TurkeyTumbleton Месяц назад

@@herschoolcolorsyou’re such a badass bro

@PotatoesAreUs Месяц назад

Highly highly recommend seeing these guys live, the energy they bring is unmatched.

@Stanspliff69 Месяц назад

wish i could but i has no legs

@stewhv94 10 дней назад

I got tickets to see them in August, can’t wait!!

@virtualdream_ Месяц назад

I'd like to see you look into Butterfly 3000's time signatures. Almost all songs are have polymeter. For example, synthesizer in 'Yours' is in 15/8, bass is in 14/8, drums are in 8/8. I've also been transcribing the whole BF3K (it's about 85-90% done). If you need, I can help with some information.

@TC-lk2ev Месяц назад

B3K is my favourite gizz album. The polymeters and rhythms in it are nuts. I'm not surprised they can't play 90% of it live haha. It would be a bit of a mindfuck.

@Stoneador Месяц назад

I feel like Butterfly 3000 is an album that sounds pretty straightforward on the surface, but has some pretty crazy rhythms working in the background

@thomp9054 Месяц назад

I think king gizz is everybodys favorite band, they might just not know it yet

@meadish 27 дней назад

So many people trapped in algorhithms never get to experience real music.

@thefareplayer2254 Месяц назад

Crumbling Castle: the greatest song of the 21st Century!

@freeman10000 День назад

Fair call 👍

@Heathaze813 Месяц назад

KG is one of the best new groups of the last 10 years. They explore many different styles, all their stuff sounds interesting.

@--..-...-..-.--.... Месяц назад

For second I thought the song in the credits of this video was a song by King Gizzard that I had never heard before, but it turned out to be by David! Great song and great video!

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Thank you 😊

@GreatJinjonator Месяц назад

Your video on Gizzard's use of the modes on IDPLMAL launched me from an enjoyer to a super fan. Great video and great album

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@ezg5221 Месяц назад

This is immediately the best resource for anyone asking for clarification on Polygondwanaland's concept. I couldn't have asked for this, what an undertaking. I personally thought about Tetrachromacy as mostly a 3 thing with the odd 4th beat hiccup; kinda like Golden Brown, now I think about it. That's mostly an interpretation from the lyrics though. Trying to see the fourth colour. But again, this was ultra illuminating. Well done and thank you!

@GoogleUser-ms6hr Месяц назад

I love the origin of Float Along's time signature, it's such a funny and modest story for a band that goes crazy with this kinda stuff now😂 it's also one of my favourite chill gizz songs, it's absolutely beautiful and honestly still very underrated

@giddycadet Месяц назад

i think float along is their best song period, with crumbling castle falling close behind. but i consider float along more euphoric than chill

@MoisesAI Месяц назад

Amazing! Huge thanks for featuring our app in your video.

@reversefulfillment9189 Месяц назад

Never really checked these guys out, but I'm down with what they're throwing.

@tangerinecarrots4282 Месяц назад

we're gonna get there!

@prismix0870 Месяц назад

we don't need no whereabouts

@Esraug9012 Месяц назад

Literally just started listening to them again the other day and the album that hooked me all over again was this album right here. So intricate and complex and yet so groovy at the same time, Poly and Petro are their undisputed time signature mind melter masterpieces. Awesome video man I love it when I can elevate my appreciation for this band in any way and understand their music just a little more.

@artonion420 Месяц назад

And BF3K!

@Esraug9012 Месяц назад

@@artonion420 can’t forget about BF3K with its synth lines carefully placed and goin all over the place. You right!

@joshandrew1 Месяц назад

Just one more thing with the fourth colour: the riff that is played which descends (12/8 and 2/8 as you described) is played 4 times then moved down and repeated 3 times, then 2 and then once before leading into the "chorus" (I believe, the hyperbole). Can say that it is the 10 bars for the 10th song but I thought it was awesome how they implemented that.

@johnhennessey5 18 дней назад

Dudeee thank you for this idk if I would have noticed this tbh haha

@jk6251 Месяц назад

want to watch David explain the Mars Volta 🤍

@joelbruning921 Месяц назад

I just love how King Gizzard explore so many aspects of music making. From different genres, to scales, rhythms, sounds, tunings. And still somehow are recognisable. Really refreshing and good to see that a band can be more than a standardised products, but can be what ever it wants to be. I think so many artists are afraid of changing their style to not frighten or irritating their fans. King gizzard is the exact opposite of that. That just gives me hope and confidence that everything is allowed and that there is no right or wrong when it comes to creating something new. Very much appreciate your analysis videos on the band, David. As a not classical trained musician this makes so much observations of mine easier to understand and again sparking new thoughts about music making. Thanks a lot!

@KazoooGod Месяц назад

More king gizzard WOO

@spacewolf9585 Месяц назад

One of my all time favorite bands! Their versatility is limitless and I eagerly await the next time I get to see them again live!

@MarcoAnteroMusic Месяц назад

That's a superb job! It's not that trivial to figure out these polyrhythms/polymeters so easily! It takes time (at least for me) Kudos!

@DEAKY3GAVUEL Месяц назад

tá aí uma ideia, fazer um vídeo sobre o King Gizzard (com um tema diferente, claro)

@mariabrandao5559 Месяц назад

@@DEAKY3GAVUEL com certeza!

@wongjason2450 Месяц назад

I see King Gizz, I press like

@lema1337 Месяц назад

we're simple fans, cannot resist the gizz

@agodlike_tazmaniandevil2305 Месяц назад

KING GIZZARD MENTIONED also Mr. Beat would be a really cool song to analyze, as its rhythm is really interesting consisting of a 29/4 groove

@quilli1222 Месяц назад

Isn't it just 7/4 with every 4th bar being 4th bar being 8/4?

@axospyeyes281 Месяц назад

ye@@quilli1222

@gregg8721 Месяц назад

its in 7+7+7+8/4 if you wanted to have it in one time signature

@lallomes Месяц назад

that pattern pops up in Road Train as well

@MiguelCyc Месяц назад

Once I'm Mr. Beat, only miss a beat

@Testgeraeusch Месяц назад

Unoddly enough, searching is still one of my favourite songs. Like, in general. I just love these semi-slow paced simple beats with monotonous voice and some polymetre bass and percussion in the background.

@giddycadet Месяц назад

i feel like it almost should have been composed microtonal, with the last note of "try to brighten up my day" (and every other time that note appears) being flattened by half a semitone. that's how i always sing it and it just feels so right

@Rowanexen Месяц назад

Genuinely really cool how you worked the sponsor into the video itself! And King Gizzard is a band I've been meaning to get into for a while, this is a great reminder!

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Thanks 😊

@dagonzalez1757 Месяц назад

Such a great album

@paulhicks3595 Месяц назад

After watching this I see that, obviously, music by The Gizz can be extremely complex but when I listen to it I don’t notice or get distracted by the complexity but just sort of drift along and get really lost in the exotic, vaguely middle eastern, mood. It’s a very satisfying listen!

@mcwulf25 Месяц назад

I really need to get into this band. Very proggy.

@ytgshlung Месяц назад

polygondwanaland and nonagon infinity are good albums to start with, the silver cord is very good too!

@MiguelCyc Месяц назад

If you want some prog-metal go for PetroDragonic Apocalypse; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation.

@MegaFarinato 27 дней назад

@@MiguelCycrolf. you just wanted to put the whole name of the album, but yes, and also "infest the rats nest" but its just 4 words

@cheeseheadfiddle Месяц назад

Steve Reich+ King Crimson+ King Sunny Ade. So cool. Great breakdown. A lot of work I’m sure.

@awfulbasscovers6895 Месяц назад

So great to hear about KGLW on your channel! They have so much incredible music to be analyzed. Hope you will cover more albums soon, including their use of motifs, word painting, microtonality and crazy production and publishing ideas

@wozzywick Месяц назад

Great video. The fact they can be so complicated whilst still sounding good is what really makes it impressive

@xaviermarini7602 Месяц назад

Probably one of my favorite records of all time, thank you so much for this great video

@feywild1758 Месяц назад

Yessss another King Gizz video! I saw these guys two years go in Las Vegas and am seeing them again in Detroit this August. Super excited!

@senarodrigo Месяц назад

Amazing music and amazing analysis. Thanks!

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@lucasdelfino4574 Месяц назад

This analisys Is awesome. Thank you!!

@ExtravagantEngie Месяц назад

YES! Thank you so much for doing this video! I just discovered this band through this album and was hoping to find a good analysis video on the rhythms

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@squidsbizarreadventure 25 дней назад

I love your King Gizzard retrospective era... This is what got me to subscribe!

@Thinginator Месяц назад

YESSS!!! This is my favorite band and I'm so excited to see this video. I am a bit disappointed you didn't analyze their song Shanghai as it has some really weird polymeters going on, but they have so much interesting music that I really can't complain. This video would be many hours long if you analyzed every interesting thing they ever did. But hey, that means plenty of material for future videos at least.

@Jade-dk6th Месяц назад

My favorite King Gizzard polyrhythm is in the song "Catching Smoke." The meter for the majority of the song is 3 bars of 4/4 followed by a bar of 9/8. The bass during the chorus, however, feels that rhythm in 11 bars of 3/8. The verses also break this rhythm up into bars of 3/8. So the 33 beat phrase is simultaneously broken up into 8-8-8-9 or 3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3, while still being an extremely catchy song.

@hachiklau 23 дня назад

This is another perfect demonstration of this band's genius. Also, watching this after watching your video about pop music (which is either in 4/4, 12/8 or 6/8) is sooo refreshing. Thank you!

@JavierGonzalez-cl6pu 29 дней назад

sound awesome, a discover, thank you

@chinchilla2971 Месяц назад

Did a deep dive on Gizz a year ago and so glad I did. Listened to all their albums. So much diverse material. Need to see them live.

@illusionFTW 24 дня назад

they dont disappoint!

@PeterJnicol Месяц назад

I find the Giz to be one of the most interesting yet most accessible rock bands. Even the microtonal stuff sounds like rock, and its catchy.

@sauril Месяц назад

Great video David. The section on Polymeters made me realize what I was missing when trying to figure out what was happening on a lot of the songs on Butterfly 3000, which has a similar effect with a lot of the analog synth loops.

@madmat01 Месяц назад

Excellent job mate. Well done

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Thanks 😊

@Dagrond Месяц назад

Really nice analysis

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Thanks 😊

@royalex21 Месяц назад

Really enjoyed this video, David! I've been a KGLW fan for about 5 years now (as my pfp would indicate) so I was excited to see this in my feed! BTW, for a future odd time signature analysis, I suggest checking out "Question!" by System of a Down, which uses 4 different time signatures throughout its 3-minute duration.

@samuelking879 Месяц назад

Horology is mostly in 7 but there are times when it's alternating 7 and 6 making a 13/4 time signature.

@saulgoodman1390 Месяц назад

Love the Gizz!!! Although, they're slacking off; been an entire six months since their last album!

@dankboinkripper Месяц назад

something you missed in loyalty, the 5/8 never truly fades away. the synths fade, but one of the guitars can be heard playing a similar melody in 5/8 underneath everything else in 11/8. it’s easier to hear it on live performances, such as chunky shrapnel

@Nachtopus Месяц назад

It wasn’t until I saw Loyalty live that I realized Joey has to play that 5/8 pattern and sing in 11/8 at the same time😵‍💫

@xmillion1704 Месяц назад

I have a fairly vivid memory of attending a drum clinic at a Southern California music store I patronized long ago, featuring Carmen Appice, which was my first eye-opening introduction to odd time signatures in a rock format. I'm not a drummer, but I attended with my bandmate/housemate at the time.

@ytgshlung Месяц назад

amazing video about one of my favourite bands!! it would be cool to see a video about swans or einstürzende neubauten at some point!

@tymime Месяц назад

I'm glad such a weird experimental band like this is getting all this attention.

@davidtymon8258 Месяц назад

KGLW just reminded me of hawkwind when i first heard them. Proper space rock! I had no idea about all the odd timings... it just sounds normal to me. Great video. Thank you.

@atelicmusic Месяц назад

Love that album so much - been such a big inspiration for my own first record and writing in odd time signatures in general ➗

@campbell5431 Месяц назад

awesoem vid, more king gizz please!!

@CodyDrew-rok Месяц назад

thank you for helping me understand my favourite music better ❤

@HolySmokesTheSquire 27 дней назад

Something that caught my ear after a few listens to this album, was the track Inner Cell, the snare/cross stick placement doesn't change throughout the song, yet the context of the kick and hats around it does, giving the feel of an entire new groove or tempo

@govs213 Месяц назад

Thanks for the heads up on the Reddit David.

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

😊😊

@GizzyDillespee Месяц назад

Good topic, nice vid

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Glad you liked it 😀

@pudnik2410 Месяц назад

Is it wrong that I would like an analysis of Flying Microtonal Banana? Great video by the way!

@frtzkng Месяц назад

_Fear of Fours_ by Lamb similarly features all kinds of time signatures except 4/4 and 2/4, as the name implies. One of its songs, _Five,_ seems like it's in 5/4 but throws in 11/8 at times. More precisely it mostly has sections of 8 bars, of which six are in 5/8 and two in 6/8; or occasionally seven in 5/8 and one in 7/8.

@rabbishekelstein Месяц назад

GETTING CLOSE TO 1 MILLION DAVID

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Yeah!! I’ve got some livestreams planned for when that comes around!

@lambda1863 Месяц назад

Gizz inspired me to make a 9/8 song it's now one of my most favourite time signatures to use when I want a strange feel

@mcwulf25 Месяц назад

Good to see 5 bars of 5 beats in each line. I tend to think that most odd time sigs "cheat" by grouping bars into fours. 3/4 timing almost always does this too.

@doncorleole2356 23 дня назад

Love how rhythmic becomes wifmic for this lad

@paulgibby6932 Месяц назад

Thanks! This was a riveting video. Love the complexity and creativity of their music and your presentation.

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@BFG-hv2ml 26 дней назад

Alright, downloading the album to play it after.

@enkita8234 Месяц назад

They go all in on butterfly 3000 Thats a mess of time signatures and i love it

@joaovictor21229 Месяц назад

obrigado por colocar legendas em português, david

@AndresinhoRM Месяц назад

Yess! In every video of yours whenever an odd time signature comes to topic, I always think of an exemple of one of their songs, cause they're my favorite band. What a blessing now there's a full video dedicated to them.

@AndresinhoRM Месяц назад

Additionally, Polygondwanaland is (in my opinion) their absolute masterpiece. They are so prolific that I keep hopes they will someday maybe match its brilliance with another album. B3K comes close. Maybe I just enjoy odd time signatures and polyrhythms/polymeter too much, cause that album uses all of that heavily too.

@BrunoWiebelt Месяц назад

outstanding interesting

@bellsprout7748 Месяц назад

David, King Gizz are coming to the UK again next month. Will you be going to see them?

@wgb01001 Месяц назад

Best band on the planet.

@RTeez79 Месяц назад

More Gizz please!!!!

@musicshead Месяц назад

Thanks for the portuguese subtitles 😍

@ender403 Месяц назад

I have plenty of clues in my Spotify likes. However places like this is where I get insanely good recommendations. Keep up the amazing work

@eric6504 15 дней назад

Will (and have) subscribe, like, comment, and share for more king gizz videos, bravo

@DavidBennettPiano 15 дней назад

😊

@mrhotrhymez Месяц назад

Please do a TOOL one!

@davidjohnson1654 Месяц назад

LOL - the car alarm inspiring the 5/4 song. Reminds me, the Bee Gees once said that a bridge they used to drive over made a noise that inspired the rhythm at the beginning of "Jive Talkin'."

@jarrodkluk7514 Месяц назад

Okay gonna be coming back to this video a few times...

@nyctonihilanth Месяц назад

please do a video on Petro Dragonic!

@zzzaphod8507 Месяц назад

Wow, interesting analysis! At 12:15 could call this a 9 vs 8 polymeter as it looks like the 8th notes are going at the same rate in both meters.

@DavidBennettPiano Месяц назад

Yeah you can consider the 4/4 as 8/8 so yeah 9 against 8 polymeter is a better way to describe it 😊

@Piktor201 Месяц назад

This was the first time I heard about King Gizzard but it will surely not the last time. This is a really great interesting band! Thank you David for presenting this to us. 😎👍

@steveknight878 Месяц назад

This sounds very like some of the early Krautrock type of stuff - Magma, Neu!, early Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk.

@lallomes Месяц назад

i'm surprised you missed out the polymeter and hemiola in the start of inner cell! while the drums & bass are doing 5 bars of 5/4, the vocals & guitar are playing in 6/8 - with 8 repeats and an extra 2/8 to fill the gap at the end

@topherthe11th23 Месяц назад

This video is a veritable Blizzard of information.

@FromGroundToMud Месяц назад

You should listen to Mild High Club, which King Gizz made an album with a few years ago. Very jazzy.

@ButzPunk Месяц назад

shoutout to my sister for being the one to introduce me to king gizz. dudes are dope as

@SamsamTS Месяц назад

Thank you for dissecting the time signatures of my favorite album of all time. I so wish for a Polygondwanaland 2. Do you know any group/album/song similar to this? I can think of Lateralus by Tool for example.

@Chris-mc2dt Месяц назад

Butterfly 3000 is Polygondwanaland 2

@SamsamTS Месяц назад

@@Chris-mc2dt Yeah not really. Not in my opinion anyway. Not a bad album by any means, just not the same vibe.

@amicuscure8s Месяц назад

Laminated Denim gives me Poly sequel vibes

@MichelLamblin Месяц назад

PetroDragonic Apocalypse! Motor Spirit's 5/8 is so cool.

@paulbuono5088 Месяц назад

Great topic....When are you gonna talk about Phish???

@elliottspangler7549 Месяц назад

pt 2 please

@kosk3432 Месяц назад

hi David! thanks for the video. i wondering, on 1:10 you are explaining how they are playing 5 over 2 polyrhythm. am I right that if we count in 16th notes, we can say that the bass drum just hitting each group of 5 (16th) notes, right?