King Gizzard used EVERY mode on this album 

PLS DO MORE GIZZ

@DavidBennettPiano Dear David, I have a question regarding Ice Five (Dorian). I understand that you wanted to highlight the difference between the natural minor and dorian scale, but isn't interpreting the song in the 'parent key' of Bb really confusing? If we see it as being in F (so G dorian) we would simply have a ii - iii and have no need to raise the b5 of the vii chord. We would also have one accidental less in the key signature. Why did you interpret it this way?

no screw you

David Bennett confirmed gizzhead

He already talked about banana

he mentioned rattlesnake in a video about microtonality

he's mentioned them in passing a couple times, but it's cool to get a full video on them

We eating good today bois

x2

Absolutely agree.

Yes please!

TOTALLY

Oh he absolutely should!

Seconding this, full length KGLW Time Signature video

"Once I missed a beat", I'd love to see that in a video from David

Even analysis for Crumbling Castle or The Fourth Colour will be so cool

and plissss take note about polygondwanalandddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

@@atharvachoudhary6974 I BELIEVE TEEEEETRACHROMACYYYYY I SEE THE FOURTH COLORRRRRRRRRRRRR

It’s not a true representation of Locrian … it’s Phrygian, really. That’s cheating.

Imagine Stu is a music professor in the future and he whips out his old discography to give examples of concepts to the class lmao

@@kierenmoore3236did you listen to poly yet?

​@@kierenmoore3236 but they use the flat 5th instead of the perfect 5th what

@@ytgshlung ya, as a blue note. Did you not watch the video?

Yeah wasn't the middle 8 like a day ago or something? Crazy

@@fossiltortoise yes, and he talked about the concept of this album. Maybe this video is inspired by that one, but being so close I don't think it's enough time to produce this video.

@@cacojugon middle 8 first video was intro to gizz, and also david bennetts made a video with gizz before. The microtonal banana Stuff.

A friend of mine linked the Middle8 video in Discord yesterday, then the David Bennett video today. Middle8 made me stop sleeping on The Silver Chord and finally give it a listen, and I was blown away by why it took me so long to listen to the album.

@@brandenblomberg3048 yeah there's always so much to start with it's overwhelming sometimes

I think I’d need to be very high indeed, to be impressed by what I’ve heard here.

@@kierenmoore3236 who shat on your cereal this morning?

@@hp2823 Cereal? I don’t eat that garbage.

Overly-processed food is garbage. Just as a song that avoids the 5th degree for 99.9% of its playtime can’t actually be “in Locrian”. 😏 “Just the facts, M’am.” 😎

I adore "If not now then when", which is as catchy as it is weird. These guys are geniuses.

Real and true

You’ve never seen someone pretend to write a song in Locrian before? 😉

@@fossilsunbeam1011 that makes them even more relatable to me then 😆

Kinda, they have some albums with strong music theory background, like the album from this video, or "changes", where the whole album is based limiting all the harmony to only two key changes and have some kind of hypnotic synth jazz pop sound. Other interesting thing are the microtonal albums trilogy, very interesting musically. But even more interesting than the music theory themed albums, are their concept driven releases, each album is unique trying something new.

You can be much much better than these guys

@@unknown6390lmao

​​@@unknown6390 No need to gatekeep people from having something that inspires them in a genuine way. King Gizzard not being the ideal prog band to your own strict expectation isn't everybody's business, people who are into the band's music like them for obvious reasons. This band helps bridge people of different musical preferences to get into various unfamiliar or interrelated genres and styles in some ways or others, and their music is liked because of the artistic honesty and the DIY spirit, as well as the commitment to produce works persistently and continue to hone their own musical skill and artistry in the process.

You should aspire to be much better, they are really not impressive at all

No need to "aspire" lol just do it. Ya know you don't need anyone's permission or approval, no one does...do whatever you want. They do, I do, if you want to, you just do it, no need to aspire. It's not hard, nothing is stopping you

Most over rated band of our time

@@Tityretupatulae If you say so it must be true, mustn't it? Bro grow up, music is subjective. Many people love gizz, if you don't then that's fine, but don't try to ruin it for others, will ya?

@@metaldude2410 why does saying something is overrated mean that you’re trying to ruin something?

Also what do mean “welcome to the community”? Are you the gatekeeper of discussions of a band? No? Well then why should anyone care if they are welcome or not if they want to talk about something lol.

@@adino20 Cuz noone asked for a rating bro. That guy didn't contribute to my comment in any way other than being annoying

How can it be in Locrian, when they just avoid the 5th scale degree for 99.9% of it? lol

they don't? they remove it from the chords but keep it in the melodies@@kierenmoore3236

Only in the chords though. A stand point of model music is sticking to a purpously vague progression and allowing the melody to dictate the mode, not the chords. See Miles Davis for example. ​@@kierenmoore3236

Nice

@@kierenmoore3236If you take the time to listen to it it’s featured in almost all of the melodic lines.

Its been done before and better

@@unknown6390 I'd like you to recommend me any bands that can make better music then them and that can also release 25 unique sounding albums within a decade.

I play in Locrian on harmonicas sometimes, which is like playing in Mixolydian but without resolving on what would be the tonic of Mixolydian. I usually improvise in Locrian for a bit before going back to Mixolydian.

@@reillywalker195 I think it's just that bV that upsets people. When you can't go to the natural V to lead back to the tonic (not that you always should be now you can't) you have to be creative and trust that your audience is hip and willing to go with you.

Gotta leave something for the future! I’d expect them to make a round around the circle of fifth, first song in C, second in G, third in D, etc, incorporating all modes (C Major through C Locrian in Song 1).

The fact is that they are just an ok band, a couple ok albums, the rest is every uninspiring music, but their fanboys are totally unbearable that they make me dislike the band altogether. But apart from that, I don’t think they have any songwriting gifts at all

@@Tityretupatulae ah yes the fanboys like me who've made you come here and leave all these comments! If only they hadn't been so damn annoying, then you wouldn't have had to click on this video and leave 10 comments

@@Tityretupatulae might i ask which albums specifically you thought were "ok"? Also, what specifically do you dislike about their songwriting? Genuinely curious

That would be amazing. I love these scales but they're always so confusing and tricky to harmonize

Prolific and good are two different things.

​@@kierenmoore3236They're both

​@@kierenmoore3236Damn dude you're a real hater. Touch grass

@@kierenmoore3236 Two different things they always deliver in each release

@@HAZARDOUS88 fr

25 albums 25 albums

i kind of don't want to start listing starting points because i will never stop. i'll just say, do NOT discount their live work - they are a phenomenal performing band

Welcome.

@@iPig to what? He could hate them.

@@adino20 What are you on about brother?

Thank you 😊

Obviously the best on there but listen to the magma live recording on red rocks.

I was there... it blew my face off @@Blockoumi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CkCQskIxtj8.html

The artwork is to distract you from the sound … and the fact that they just omitted the 5th scale degree from 99.9% of the song that’s supposed to be ‘in Locrian’ … ☺️

@@kierenmoore3236 man it's always so amusing to see people like you in comments sections like this. Commenting on every thread and being ignored. It's okay, I noticed you. I hope the attention makes you feel better.

@@kierenmoore3236 Forever a clown. 🤡

At least I listen to good music … 😉

​@@kierenmoore3236 like what?

Those albums would release before your next birthday most likely as well. xD

Sounds like your tonic uses the notes B D A and E. Which can also be arranged as: B E A D. Quartal harmony. This could even be collapsed into B D E A. Or the Bm7 but replace the fifth with fourth.

It’s not in Locrian. It’s in Phrygian, really.

​@@kierenmoore3236*Phrygian b5. I wonder if there's a name for that 🤔

gotem @@ezg5221

This is probably one of their few albums that fits that description, but their majority of releases are music for regular people.

As a musician they bore me for not doing enough

No, musicians know very well what good songwriting is. This isn’t unfortunately. This is music for hipsters and for publications like pitchfork that need to make money promoting unlistenable music to pretend to be hip and fresh and relevant

@@Tityretupatulae I've played 5 instruments over my life and I like them :) I don't like hipsters or pitchfork though :( they're better songwriters than anyone else I've heard in about 3 years.

​​​@@TityretupatulaeNow why do you and @unknown6390 feel the need to try and convince everyone that this band is terrible and unimpressive? If you, personally, don't like it, that's fine. But here's the thing, you can just say _that_ instead! It's so easy! Sure it's hippie music, often listened to by hippies, but they clearly know what they're doing and can write a great song. Again, if they're not your thing, fine by me, but just say that and stop trying to make people feel bad for enjoying something! Unless you're both just doing this to garner attention or reactions. In that case, here you go!

So you know of any songs that use the whole chord?

Into the rabbit hole you go

@@siebenedrissg wooooo! 🤘🏻

Woooos are an important part of the experience.

IDP LMAL I Don't Phone Lydia Much After Lockup If Dora Plays Like Me All's Lost I Don't Play Like Mccartney And Lennon, I Don't Play Lousy Music Any Longer, I Don't Play Loud Music After Lunch, I Don't Play Like Mike Any Longer, In Detroit Players League Men Are Lions, I Don't Particularly Like Modes A Lot, I Don't Play Like Miles After Lunch, I'm Damn Poor Leave Me A Loan, I Did Pot Last Monday And Liked-it,

Omitting the 5 and calling it Locrian is total BS. lol

@@kierenmoore3236It did come off as sus, yes. :) But even so, I mean, if I wanted to indicate something to be in C Locrian I would put 5 flats there and not 3 flats and mark every single D flat and G flat.

@@weepingscorpion8739 It’s more than sus, though. The b5 is literally the defining/signature scale degree of Locrian. It would be like buying a “jam donut”, and finding out it’s a plain donut with a tiny dot of jam inside it, lol. I mean, technically, perhaps … but you’d feel cheated. We wouldn’t all be talking about how clever the donut manufacturer was, would we … lol

@@kierenmoore3236 I know. I was ... uhm ... what ever the antonym of exaggerating is... on purpose :)

You're taking a piss on every 70's band by saying something so ignorant

​@@unknown6390 fairly sure that every 70s band would be proud of being compared to King Gizzard and viceversa

agreed

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAVPgt6BnWI.htmlsi=gDPDXmHswxdZmYCO obviously not up to date anymore

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CAVPgt6BnWI.htmlsi=tyqPhg3eYzve2VN2 Hasn't been updated for the last two albums but it exists

Ill do that later tonight

Better than this, probably.

Starting out, it can certainly feel that way. But with a bit of practice, it's not actually very difficult to stay in any diatonic (or chromatically altered diatonic) mode. The main problem is that people tend to look at writing in terms of chord progressions and they try to apply the same stock chord progressions they learn in Ionian/major to any mode only to find it doesn't work. There are stock chord progressions that you can memorize for every diatonic mode, but it's honestly better just to think it terms of melodic tendencies. The biggest tendency to look out are minor second motions. Obviously, we know this as 'leading tone tendencies' for the major scale but they work for any mode. So for example, you can easily stay grounded in Phyrgian with a lot of bii - I motions. The biimaj7 - i(min7) is also quite a common chord progression for this reason. Another is the #iv - V motion over the tonic in Lydian, which is also quite strong. In general, emphasizing minor second motions into a chord tone of the tonic (or a consonant-ish chord on I) is an easy and effective way to stay in any mode. A lot of working with modes is learning to think linearly rather than vertically and just creating vertical harmonies that emphasize these strong melodic characteristics of modes.