It’s of their own very willing population so I think it’s fine. As long as there’s no formal declaration of war that is Otherwise Rakdos be in biiiiig trouble
There's a card called haphazard bombardment that destroys stuff at random including lands, so you can absolutely add another war crime to the list there
Well, if you run singleton copies of all your nonlands, probably 30-40ish? Depends on if you're counting multiple instances of a given war crime, such as child soldiers.
@@blazeswordpaladin9357 And spreading a liquid. And attacking undefended towns and cities. And forcing you to fight your own people. Need I go on? All will be One.
Uh, the answer is simple, it's as many as you want. Just put down a platinum angel, you now can't lose the game, and since you lose if you die or get arrested, you're now both immortal and above all and any law in the world.
If I had a nickel for every satire content creator that has read the Geneva convention and applying it to my favorites games I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is weird it has happened twice
@@DiscardedLeaf ah, Davey. Putting the "tired" in "satire". Seriously. Loved the monke war crimes video but the dude sounds like he hasn't slept in a week.
This is actually probably a lot harder to adjudicate than you would think, and in a bunch of cases not actually war crimes. War crimes apply during the course of a war or armed conflict. It does not normally apply to things done on an individual level: if some lunatic started chucking incendiary grenades at their neighbors house, they would be guilty of murder, and possibly other crimes like Arson or unlawful possession of explosives, but it wouldn’t count as a war crime. Similarly, if a mafia family tortures prisoners from a rival gang, they would be charged for all sorts of crimes, but they did probably wouldn’t be going before The Hague anytime soon. Basically, if Chandra sets a bunch of her enemies on fire, unless it is part of a larger armed conflict, she probably can’t be prosecuted for war crimes, just regular crimes. Even in cases of actual war in MtG, it can still be hard to adjudicate; for example, Urza’s conflict with Phyrexia is definitely a war, so war crimes still apply there. But certain war crimes make assumptions about the nature of society that aren’t necessarily true in MtG. For example, normally, the deliberate bombing of civilians is a war crime, but not the bombing of military/industrial infrastructure or soldiers. But within Phyrexia, is there such a thing as civilians? Is blowing up the vats where phyrexia grows it’s forces a crime, or not? And that’s not even taking into account the fact that a good portion of phyrexian vehicles, equipment, are partially made of living organisms. And then there is the issue of ethnic cleansing. Normally, trying to utterly exterminate a particular group would be genocide, but how does that apply to a society where civilians don’t really exist. While phyrexia itself is obviously committing even more war crimes (use of biological and chemical warfare, forcing prisoners to fight for them, literally ALL the medical experimentation, targeting civilians, torture, desecrating corpses, ethnic cleansing. Technically both Phyrexia and Urza might be guilty of using child soldiers, since phyrexian newts are technically children, and the Urza’s metathran are only old enough to fight thanks to fast time bubbles, and even then, they arguably were enlisted/conscripted the moment they left their incubator. But outside of actual wars (and similar armed conflicts), the Geneva convention doesn’t apply, so a lot of characters in magic are technically not war-criminals. And there are some threats in magic where it is debatable whether the enemy count as people. Even if the Eldrazi invasion of Zendikar counts as a war, do Eldrazi Spawn count as people? For that matter, do the various forces of Zendikar all count as soldiers prior to rallying around Tazri? Because again, it’s not a war crime if you are not a combatant fighting as part of a conflict, anymore than a serial killer is a war criminal if they kill people with a triangular knife.
Well, the spawn are basically just body parts, and Emrakul is least capable of having a polite conversation with an unlucky human. So, y'know, it's "just" mutilating someone who probably won't press charges because she doesn't care.
Also to point this out, incendiary weapons like flame throwers aren't actually banned by the Geneva convention but rather their usage in areas you'd expect a dense civilian population to be found.
Okay, so... Basically every use of pyromancy would probably be covered by incendiary weaponry, and let's face it, there's enough red spells having to do with fire to count, as would summoning Chandra and then using any ability that deals damage. She's technically the one doing it, but you're kinda the one ordering her around, so... As the closest thing to her commanding officer, you gotta pay too. Putting -1/-1 counters on your opponents stuff would generally be seen as inflicting undue suffering, even if none of the actual cards are named as such. Aristocrats decks fall under intentional friendly fire, assuming it's banned, but would probably fall under genocide or animal cruelty (which is just normal crime) depending on what creatures/tokens you're using. (For a war crime free aristocrats deck, exclusively use artifact creatures as your sac fodder) Any polymorph removal (this creature is an X/Y whatever and loses all other abilities/types and destroy and make a token) brings consent for experimentation into the mix and I think what I'm trying to say is that this could have been a *way* longer video.
Oh, he straight up said this video could have been longer. He was just listing what he could think of off the top of his head after reading the list of War Crimes.
So just everything Phyrexian, hell Yawgmoth's day basically was how many war crimes he could do followed by how to make them worse tomorrow when he was just a guy.
Got a couple others. the use of weather and “natural disasters” is outlawed as per “the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques” (seismic rupture, jokulhaups) , use of aerial deployed incendiary weapons on or even near civilian centers is banned by “The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons, 1983” (anger of the gods), biological weapons (plague crafter), and depending on the interpretation of Mtg you may be violating The Hague Convention (III) of 1907 relative to the opening of hostilities by failing to formally declare war before attacking your opponent. (I enjoyed making a English paper all about the war crimes committed by various heroes of antiquity)
To be "fair" to twisted experiment, it doesn't actually cause any Damage. It reduces Toughness, which may result in the target Dying and being sent to the Graveyard. It doesn't actually "hurt" the creature, it just makes them die.
An important note about war crimes: war crimes are committed by parties involved in war, which means states or military organizations outside the control of a state. The Geneva convention doesn't apply to personal disputes like two wizards bending reality to kill each other... Unless they are doing that as part of a wider armed conflict. Keep your disputes personal people!
Also, there's a section of war crimes dedicated to flame and incendiary attacks, which you didn't cover at all, even though that's kinda red's entire thing
And "employing asphyxiating, poisonous, or other gases" has Fumigate written all over it! Also, I'm surprised he used Armageddon when Obliterate exists: "Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and lands. They can't be regenerated."
i have a very nasty Will the Wise + Lucas the sharpshooter deck themed CHILD LABOR/CHILD SOLDIER where will makes artifacts and lucas shoots people wearing a basilisk collar and other deathtouch equipment
My new war crime edh is coming along nicely. It includes invoke prjudice, cleanse and yee-hawd. All played on my pricing playmat The latest antic In my "get kicked out of my lgs" speedrun.
I know there are artifacts from the phyrexia block that have infect, or proliferate such as contagion engine, which places additional counters...such as poison counters. I think that would have been a better example for the war crime of employing poisonous gases, rather than "marsh gas" because I am pretty sure that gas that is coming out of the ground naturally is not a war crime. making a device that expels poison for the sole purpose of harming others, is.
The real question isn't "how many war crimes can I commit in a game of Magic: the Gathering?" No, the real question is "How many new war crimes can I invent in a game of Magic: the Gathering?" But, either way, there is but one correct, and absurdly simple answer: "Yes."
@@thejackscraft3472 there's nothing the show that the mana is being given willingly by the citizens. In which case it's basically the same as conscription.
Given how many lands feature buildings and cities in their art, and how Armageddon works, you can absolutely argue that destroying non military targets is on the list. Heck, with cards like goblin shrine enchanting a normal land, that’s definitely a holy/religious site.
there are so many more cards, every board wipe is basically the extensive destruction plus some cards like chain reaction and starstorm can fit there too (LOOKING AT YOU PRECON CHISHIRO)
i ran Kelsien the Plague edh. his goal was to pass out creatures to every one and kill them. I give you hostages, just to kill them. the decks name was War Crimes. i also ran a 'Fumigate"
