How Miserable Is A Winter Tesla Road Trip? -18°C & Broken Superchargers

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Can a Tesla Model 3 handle driving well below freezing for a road trip? How do cold temperatures affect electric car range? Comparison of summer versus winter driving efficiency!
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I drove my 2018 Tesla Model 3 Performance 2,500 miles to test its performance and efficiency in freezing conditions. Temperatures reached as low as 0°F (-18°C), and rarely jumped above freezing. There were icy parking lots, snow filled wheels, snow storms, and chilling temperatures, allowing for the ultimate test of Tesla's winter efficiency and performance. I also encountered my first broken supercharger, it genuinely would not provide any charge for my car!
This video will cover the 2,500 mile road trip, how navigation and superchargers work, why cold temperatures result in less range, what studies have been performed to estimate winter efficiency, what my actual efficiency was, how this relates to gasoline vehicles in terms of fuel equivalency, different driving strategies to minimize stops or minimize total driving/charing time, how higher speeds affect efficiency, how wheels and tires affect efficiency, charging at night vs morning, broken superchargers, how much EV road trips cost, how comfortable the road trip is in a Tesla, and Tesla's AutoPilot and Full Self Driving features. It's a data and info packed video, enjoy!
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@oniinu 3 года назад

What's more impressive is how he narrates a long video with precise numbers entirely from memory and what looks like in one or a few takes

@roboluigi 3 года назад

Why can’t he just write it down?

@JeffMcMenamin1027 3 года назад

That might be the 'Heads Up Display Teleprompter'. 😄

@phoenixjim0527 3 года назад

Totally agree. It’s like a professor delivering a lecture - except he is doing it for the first (and probably only) time. (To ice the cake, he is driving capably.)

@damonleeb 3 года назад

Wow I didn’t even think about that

@randolfo1265 3 года назад

@@roboluigi - that would be a blog, welcome to the nineteen two thousands.

@brando123b 2 года назад

These videos are exhausting. Life is complicated enough without 18 stops and 10 hours of waiting around.

@bc_usa 4 месяца назад

Yes 😂😂😂

@robr177 3 месяца назад

You know this was a 2,500 mile trip, right? How many stops do you normally make on a 2,500 mile trip? How many 2,500 mile trips do you make?

@mattsmucker6149 Год назад

A. Love your videos. B. The counter argument is that an ICE vehicle would only need to stop to refuel ~5 times and only for a few minutes each time (roughly 7 hours less wait time over the 2K-mile trip). A much bigger deal when traveling with kids.

@tomasgogashvily5350 8 месяцев назад

Until you live through a Canadian Winter, - 30, you lose 30-60% of the charge overnight when the car just stands in the parking. When you drive, your car loses 20%+ more due to cold, and another 10%+ on running all your heaters. Your overall range reduces by more than 50%, and you'll have to charge your car at least 2-3 times a week, s[ending as much as gas

@jakekarll8294 4 месяца назад

@@tomasgogashvily5350this is obviously not true🤣 not even close to reality

@HoMeRs19991 4 месяца назад

i can make easy 1000 km on my audi a4 so it will be 2 refueling

@ghostrider-be9ek 4 месяца назад

@@jakekarll8294 are you high? did you not see 4:00 of the video? 40%

@Eye-it-azz 4 месяца назад

@@jakekarll8294 You’ve obviously never been to Canada. We close everything down, road maintenance crew don’t even bother to clear the snow when it’s actively snow & could snow for 2 straight days. You wouldn’t understand. Not a single soul outside, if anything happens to you the police or ambulance ain’t coming.

@Tordogor Год назад

This guy deserves a lot of praise for his huge knowledge and methodic attention to detail.

@pazi402 10 месяцев назад

An engineer's approach for sure! There is always quality content and the prep shows.

@Mrbfgray 5 месяцев назад

I think 3.6M subs is enough. 😉

@TailoredReaction 4 месяца назад

Thanks mom!

@RaddestDad 3 года назад

Props to the cameraman for hanging out on the dash to get the best driving shot.

@ButteryBao 2 года назад

Heh this comment made me laugh more than it should’ve

@vanPoll 2 года назад

What are you saying there? His cat did all the filming while relaxing on the dashboard heater vent.

@blackterminal 2 года назад

Potentially it was a smaller person

@amusedcookie 2 года назад

@@ButteryBao same 😂

@MG-im8ku 2 года назад

It was really his cat who he trained how to hold a camera still and get him in frame lol

@redmanhigh 3 года назад

Title should been: I drove 2500 miles with my cat. In the winter with a Tesla.

@Cheeseybacun 3 года назад

This. Viewership numbers could easily have been 5X greater with cat in the title.

@sking2173 3 года назад

@@Cheeseybacun - 5x’s?? I don’t think so - wrong kinda cat ...

@davidstuart4915 3 года назад

perhaps he was feline lonely...

@Obloms 3 года назад

No, no. It should be: "Shocking! RU-vidr survives 2,500 miles in a Tesla with a Cat!"

@AJBtheSuede 3 года назад

"Shocking results! Cat survived Tesla hack electrocution, owner drives 2500 miles to save it!!!"

@pookatim Год назад

One issue to consider is being stuck in traffic in cold temperatures. Internal combustion cars can sit a idle and provide heat with little impact on range. But an electric vehicle has to burn power at a significant rate without moving. Here in New Jersey, I have often been stuck in completely stopped traffic for over three hours due to serious traffic accidents requiring things like helicopters to transport seriously injured people. The entire Garden State Parkway or New Jersey Turnpike can be closed for many hours in these circumstance. I also remember a freak ice storm where one of the Interstate Highways was closed for over a day. Passengers had to sit for over 8 hours before they could be evacuated from their stranded cars. The average sedan uses about 4/10 of a gallon of gasoline per hour at idle. The worst case is a passenger bus which uses about 1 gallon of diesel fuel per hour at idle. While the air conditioning compressor adds a load the heater does not on an internal combustion engine. In fact none of the electronics draw much of a load so you can sit in stopped traffic warm and cozy listening to your sound system or reading by interior lighting or recharging your phone or other electronic devices all you want. Also not the case in electric cars.

@stale2665 11 месяцев назад

With a fully charged heatpump fitted tesla, you can heat the car enough to not freeze for around 40 hours. Heat loss from the car is a lot lower when the car isn't moving.

@juancuelloespinosa5495 Год назад

15:41 jason keeping notes like a good engineer/scientist should 😆

@48Ballen Год назад

Obviously no kids. This video convinces me NEVER to buy an electric vehicle for any road trip. These vehicles are just not up to the task at this point.

@rainonedavid3564 3 года назад

This video sounded like a F1 pit-stop analysis "Going for the one-stop, I could drive more aggressively, even if I spend more time getting to the charging stations"

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing! And then wondering if charging (instead of battery swaps) as a part of an Formula E race would be a fun strategic addition, or just boring to watch. Driver takes a 10 minute break to browse RU-vid. Hops back in with 40% more charge.

@DiverJames 3 года назад

@@EngineeringExplained - adding a “charging pit stop” might promote development of efficient, safe and rapid charging technologies/batteries.

@wuokawuoka 3 года назад

That was, hands down, the best and most informative segment on an all round very good video.

@Sabeximus 3 года назад

@@EngineeringExplained Correct me if I'm wrong (haven't watched Formule E that much), but I believe charging is an important part of the races, as the drivers don't only race on who drives fastest and does the corners best, but they also have to take efficiency and consumption into consideration because they might have to charge at some point-or at least they won't be able to finish the race if they run out of battery.

@ivok9846 3 года назад

yeah, only diff being they don't spend quarter of the driving time waiting to fuel it up... to that extent 10:30 and 19:44 don't match, is it 30 or 38?

@toobalicious 3 года назад

I really like the fact that, in your reviews, you touch on just about every question I would have about whatever you’re covering. 👍

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

Happy to hear it! Thanks for watching!

@SteelBelted 3 года назад

I believe that is the objective of being an excellent teacher, which he is

@paulhardy7278 3 года назад

@@SteelBelted b

@altonbates7796 Год назад

Did not hear him say anything about the AC in the summer time.

@altonbates7796 Год назад

Did not hear him say anything about the AC in the summer time

@hugegamer5988 7 месяцев назад

Worst thing about my EV is the mileage when using heat and that’s with a heat pump. I miss the gross inefficiency of ICE and the massive never ending heat stream for no reduction in mileage.

@usefulrandom1855 3 месяца назад

You are still paying for it, it's just warming the atmosphere instead. Even in the summer.

@hugegamer5988 3 месяца назад

@@usefulrandom1855 yes, I miss the gross inefficiency. But it’s also nice paying 1/3 or less per mile for fuel.

@petehalasz7547 3 месяца назад

@@usefulrandom1855.. spoken like a true pathetic liberal.. I guess you don't give a S_ _ T of the absolute devastating effects on mining lithium.. the 1000 gallons of fresh water for every ton of lithium,, read on South America destruction in Peru, Argentina, Chile.. or that those psychotic communist Chinese own 75% of lithium mines... Because you know they care about labour and the environment.. typical,, you think you hug tree but don't give a S_ _ T how they mine cobalt, lithium copper..

@bstarr119 2 года назад

There is a black piece stuck in the supercharger plug, these come off of older charge port designs, possibly because of summer heat fatigue or because of mechanical fatigue. Seems to be happening less often these day but still something to be aware of. Something interesting is if your own charge port guide post has broken of in the same prong then you’d be able to plug into the cable you had trouble with in your video 😂

@VictorKohnke 3 года назад

I absolutely love the way he makes the argument for and against the Tesla. Honest, straightforward, and clear

@ericmiller254 2 года назад

They are literally the least reliable major car maker in existence, do not buy them End of my ted talk

@bobsaturday4273 2 года назад

I missed that part I guess , all he did was whine and complain about trivialities and dote over his cat . never once brought up the driving experience , steering , handling , acceleration , cruise ...or even general comfort on that length of drive , seats , fatigue or lack of it ... NOTHING MUCH MORE THAN BLABBERING ABOUT A BROKEN PIECE OF PLASTIC ON A CHARGER

@jermwerty 2 года назад

@@ericmiller254 Source? Oh thats right, your @ss! My friends with Teslas have better reliability than many other brands. Remember those dreaded Hyundai engines anyone? Honestly my friends with Model 3s put more miles on their cars than anyone else I know and have had zero issues requiring Tesla service. It matters because we live in an area 3+ hours away from any Tesla service location. Meanwhile I've had my Nissan in multiple times for recalls.

@infiltr80r 2 года назад

@@jermwerty Source is reliability surveys. Not "my friends said", which is anecdotal and useless.

@Random-rt5ec 2 года назад

Compared to a Prius Tesla’s are sexy. Topics no one has discussed publicly is how communist China owns all the cobalt & lithium mines & uses child slave labor under horrible conditions to work these mines. Another topic is the disposal of millions of highly toxic EV batteries @ their end of life, these things are extremely toxic & complex.

@BradRange 3 года назад

Videos like this are why I’m subscribed. So much information and you consider a lot of the variables. Must be the engineer in you.

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

Thanks for watching Brad, appreciate the kind words!

@neubauerjoseph 3 года назад

I don’t like some of the people be like tesla is the best. I like your videos because you learn something. In general not a fan of electric ⚡️ cars but I think it’s fine as a short range car.

@inthebeginning6895 3 года назад

@@EngineeringExplained I wonder if it’d be even worse if you lived in a bad winter states like the northern states

@RandyTWester 3 года назад

@@inthebeginning6895 Yes, it would, especially where we are, north states. For long trips, we aim to start out with a full charge and a warm cabin, and like he says, when you're using a continuous 5 to 10 KW to keep the car warm, drive as fast as is safe / legal, stop at every charger. For max efficiency on short winter trips do the opposite - turn the heater on just 5 or 10 minutes before you leave, charge at the end of the trip. You won't have much (or not any) regen braking, but you'll be warm, and you won't burn 10 KWh warming up the battery just for a trip to the store.

@dougrobinson8602 3 года назад

@@RandyTWester Question for you, Randy- Do you think heat from the battery pack works it's way into the cabin in winter?

@designgauge 2 года назад

Really appreciate the detailed reviews. Curious where that beautiful snowy, densely forested highway is - stunning scenery!

@Clearanceman2 Год назад

Car and Driver had teams last year drive electric cars from Chicago to DC. Some cars had major issues finding charging stations and ran into lines and broken chargers. Some of the teams took days longer than some of the others. The teslas won, but everyone said they wouldn't want to travel this way, that they would take a gasoline powered vehicle for travel over any of the electric cars.

@SpottedSharks Год назад

their drivers must have been idiots. i'd never take a gas car on a cross-country trip over a tesla.

@Clearanceman2 Год назад

@@SpottedSharks I mean I'm pretty sure Car and Driver knows how to drive but OK whatever.

@slotcarfan 4 месяца назад

The US energy Secretary sent ICE cars ahead to reserve chargung station on her welk publicized cross country trip. That says it all.

@robj2704 3 года назад

The secret to making money on EV's is to get Elon's list of where future charging stations will be and build a cafe/coffee shop next door.

@CST1992 3 года назад

Why? Just host a Supercharger.

@jaydunbar7538 3 года назад

The charging stations are being built next to existing infrastructure so bring your piggy bank the existing businesses aren't going to give up their location cheap.

@Cheepchipsable 3 года назад

The rates for a prime site would be so high it probably wouldn't be worth it...or could you outbid Starbucks?

@ZDR-BoyZ 3 года назад

exactly - 1:38 , those are 40-80 min stops, people will be bored to death

@peter.g6 3 года назад

@@fcex558 Is that for real? I don't know anyone who owns a Tesla (they are quite expensive here in Europe for the regular folks), but I didn't know Tesla drivers are such ... On the other hand, I'm glad as an investor my stocks go higher thanks to brainwashed vegans' money :D

@jeffrsd 2 года назад

Eight hours total charging seems like a LOT of time sitting at a charger. That number was kind of a shock. That’s an extra day on the trip.

@Trialnerror 2 года назад

The future sucks.

@tinytownsoftware3837 2 года назад

@@Trialnerror Nah, EVs suck. And they are being shoved down our throats.

@maxclupton4024 2 года назад

@@tinytownsoftware3837 This will be very short term...they'll never replace IC vehicles..

@bradlyhunt7240 2 года назад

EV’s being able to make up 25% of the transportation is very possible. I just can’t see how it can be 100% in the next 30 years. There are 300 million cars on the road in the U.S alone, 15 minute wait times at chargers is going to clog everything up real fast.

@mlordwhiteslayerfromf.u.g 2 года назад

But electricity is looking to be cheaper then gas dude, It costs over 100 USD to fill up the tank of my van. The extra time spent charging is worth it especially considering that the first year of super charging is free for model 3's.

@TheRealThunderTurtle 8 месяцев назад

Once this guy told me .. some years ago .. I can start my manual car in second gear. Since then I skipped his videos until I started preparing for a Tesla purchase.

@davidhumeston5292 2 года назад

Great content please never stop making videos. Electric cars and ice cars have their own unique things that need to be taken care of... Truly I love the fact that the gas station is at my house...so handy. No more checking gas prices...

@starshipdriver8536 3 года назад

16:06 there’s a black plastic ring in the plug that came off of somebody’s charge port pins so it won’t seat properly when plugging in.

@BenBrand 3 года назад

came here to say this. If you have a pair of pliers you can reach in there and pull it out and then it will work for you and the next person.

@AndrewEng 3 года назад

Yup, those are the old revision model 3 deadfront pins that they've now changed.

@GHinWI 3 года назад

@@BenBrand : think i’ll pass on sticking pliers into a 480V outlet, thanks tho!

@LexanderStudio 3 года назад

@@GHinWI The plug is not on power when it hasn't initiated proper connection with a car.

@imtiredtoday 3 года назад

@@LexanderStudio quick facts, the connector is designed to talk to the charger watch technology connections's video on it. He can explain it better than I can...

@sking2173 3 года назад

To me, the 18” wheels look a lot better than the 20’s. They are also more practical ...

@michaellorenson2997 3 года назад

Yep. The 18s are lighter, ride better, and are far less prone to damage. Steering response tends to be a bit less 'sharp', but you will quickly adapt and forget it. You want sharp responses? Get some DOT-legal track tires. But of course you're not going to do that. We're not racing, we're going to work or the grocery store or whatever.

@Robcomesana 3 года назад

IMHO the better wheels for this car would be 16" or 17". There's a worldwide manufacturers trend to put the biggest wheels they can fit in the wheelarch. And the steering response improvement with lower profile tires is as true as the fact that real roads have potholes to kill those wheels. I guess it's all about the look, and I miss more practical options.

@onelyone6976 3 года назад

@@Robcomesana yup, and when you get a punctured tire you have to wait for a tow truck because there isn’t a spare tire

@lylestavast7652 3 года назад

@@onelyone6976 nothing stopping you from adding and carrying one if you're worried about it. Most only have a mini now if they have one at all.

@Bender13 2 года назад

Great no nonsense review. Let’s not forget though that we don’t regularly go on long road trips. The average driver travels about 60 miles a day….to and from work, do some shopping, kids to ball or hockey practice etc. and your Tesla will handle all this with no issues. A fast charger in the garage or just use one where you shop or dine maybe once a week and you’re all set. For most of us a 2000 mile road trip might happen once a year on vacation but even then most of us usually head up to the cottage or camp somewhere well within the distance a Tesla is capable of. My buddy goes up to his cottage with his family every weekend…..2 and a half hour drive with no issues. Plugs her in and she’s ready for the trip home. This is all doable. And remember, new battery technology ….solid state comes to mind as one….is just on the horizon with promises of greater range and ten minute charge times and once the big auto companies start competing for your dollar, you can bet the EV will soon be the car of choice for most drivers.

@musclee-mac8768 2 года назад

I didn't come here to get a Tesla experience. I came here because your cat is ADORABLE!!!!

@FuncleChuck 3 года назад

Thanks. Winter is definitely the reason I buy my cars, even if it’s only ~4 months where it goes below freezing here - but the worst weather is the time it needs to shine.

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

I think you'll enjoy this one! Lots of interesting data/information!

@FuncleChuck 3 года назад

@@EngineeringExplained loved it. Really interested in the “strategies” you discuss, speed vs charge time vs charge level... seems like there’s definitely something to that.

@ingerasulffs 3 года назад

@@FuncleChuck For speed ride the fast charging wave (arrive empty, charge enough to get to the next very high speed charger, repeat) - TeslaBjorn has the detail if you want to look into this.

@Addison0526 3 года назад

Exactly. This is why there are so many 4 whee drive vehicles in Michigan when only December-early April have snowfall that amounts to much. Also why I am looking for a car with AWD.

@rydoggsc2 3 года назад

As resident of Minnesota I totally agree.

@NubeCubes 3 года назад

It really weirded me out when he straight up drove by my house and it was in plain sight😂 sorta threw me off haha

@crackedemerald4930 3 года назад

Guys they live in a supercharger

@yosefmacgruber1920 3 года назад

I had that happen after I visited Israel. Came across some guy's motorcycle helmit-cam videos, and he went right by the place that I lived at for a while, like he didn't even know it was there. I thought, "that looks very familiar". Small world, huh?

@tarstarkusz 3 года назад

How hot do these Telsa cars get when sitting in the sun during the summer with all that glass? I once had a car that got SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than any other car I ever owned from sitting in the sun.

@yosefmacgruber1920 3 года назад

@@tarstarkusz I think that you can turn on the air conditioner, from an app on your phone. As it is an electric car, there is no need for the car to be "running" in order to turn on the air conditioning.

@scottfisher6126 3 года назад

@@tarstarkusz I have one (model 3) and it wasn't a problem in the summer. I think the glass has a coating on it that impacts the temperature.

@ashantedula5696 Год назад

I like the pitstop strategy at 8:00. Just what I needed while the f1 season is on winter break 🤣🤣🤣

@freddiejones5474 2 года назад

A truly great comparison as to the effects of cold weather on battery performance. Thank you for doing this

@CatsMeowPaw 3 года назад

2:38 Dawwww! That's one cute kitty!

@miniena7774 3 года назад

"Daw"? Boomer.

@lylestavast7652 3 года назад

@@miniena7774 that's _Mr./Mrs._ Boomer to you !

@infosecdotexe9080 3 года назад

3:21 man, that scenery is beautiful. 🌲

@justinf.7073 3 года назад

Crazy too see the road I live on being in a video lol

@mrpoizun 3 года назад

@@justinf.7073 What?

@reasonitout9087 Год назад

Love your video. To be clear, HEAT PUMPS also take electrical energy from your battery to run an electric motor inside the heat pump compressor which scavenges ambient heat from the environment and transfers it into the cabin...again using more electricity to run the ventillation blower. The more available heat in the outside ambient air the more BTUs for a given electrical consumption and viceversa. To your point, yes, resistance heat uses more energy...but in extreme conditions will blow nice and hot compared to heat pump cold-blow...unless there are supplemental resistance heaters in the duct for very cold outdoor conditions. I do not know if this is how TESLA heat pumps handle extreme cold. But yes, HPumps are great. For my 2018 Model 3 I fabricated a layered mylar insulated roof sunscreen for front and rear glass roofs , thus eliminating major heat loss through glass roofs. I Just use seat heater and am very warm. Just use sunscreens as a pattern to cut emergency mylar aluminized "space blanket" to fit between Tesla mesh sunscreens and glass roofs. Trapped air is the insulator. Reflective coating bounces your body's radiated heat back down to you.

@robsolf Год назад

Thanks so much for these videos! I love how modern vehicles show you options for saving fuel, hybrid or not.

@garydurandt4260 3 года назад

Total waiting time for charge up in the Tesla for the 2000 miles was ~8 hours. Total estimate time for refuelling a conventional car over 2000 miles would be less than 1 hour. In a vacation type scenario this should not be a problem, however if you are in a rush this could be pretty frustrating especially for those who do a lot of long distance driving for business/work.

@Thomas5937 3 года назад

Yeah I drive 1-2000 miles a week for work and a 40 minute stop every 200 miles sounds brutal. I don’t need to eat lunch every 3 hours on the road and the earlier I get done the earlier I get to go home. I’ll buy an electric car when flow batteries work and can be refueled all over the place.

@JD-yx7be 3 года назад

@@Thomas5937 then you would be an extreme edge case like less the 1% of car buyers. Most people drive 30-50 miles a day with the occasional road trip

@JD-yx7be 3 года назад

@@Thomas5937 so do you get a oil change every 2-3 weeks?

@Thomas5937 3 года назад

@@JD-yx7be my car has a 10k mile oil change interval and I usually run a bit over that interval. I get an oil change about every two months. Mostly highway with full synthetic so it’s not that big of a deal.

@garywiseman5080 3 года назад

I have the model S. It has longer range. I put 60,000 miles on my first model S driving for work. This was a little over two years of driving for me. The range allowed 4 hours of driving at 75 mph. It worked fine. I enjoyed the car, and my clients loved riding/driving it. Please do take one of his suggestions to heart. It takes forever to put energy into an ice cold battery. I made the mistake of having breakfast while attempting to charge once in zero degree weather in Ohio. The first 30 minutes I added only a few miles of range. It’s much better to drive for a least an hour, then charge. Charge the night before.

@fruitloopette69 3 года назад

The question is: how many cats do you need to keep you warm with a thermostat set at zero?

@RandyTWester 3 года назад

Depends on the size of the cat. But heat energy from cat food costs more than heat energy from electricity.

@giuliobuccini208 3 года назад

@@RandyTWester alternatively, one could adopt the futuristic engine equipped with buttered cats.

@alfredotto7525 2 года назад

1 mountain lion.

@supermonster2499 Год назад

Wherever you were filming during most the drive looks beautiful. And great video by the way👍🏻

@RM-sd2jx 10 месяцев назад

Good report. Love driving quickly on curvy, up and down, nicely paved country roads. Did a LOT of that during cross-country road trips just prior to COVID in a VW GTI and 6-speed Mazda Miata. About to (hopefully) get an EV so I'll do it again. Impressed with the Michelin Winter tires...same thing on wife's Subaru. Almost comical how I couldn't get it to slide on snowy roads! Imagine your Model 3 was the same

@yankeedoodle6293 3 года назад

This is precisely why I drive a VW Touareg TDI. It gives me a 725 mile range on each fill up. Love my beast👍

@davidvicari5139 3 года назад

I drive a Tesla Model S 90 d that will do circles around your “beast”. No Tesla owner ever is concerned about range. You would have to sit 12 hours to,use that range. Your ass, or your bladder can’t do that! Why??

@yankeedoodle6293 3 года назад

@@davidvicari5139 to each their own. I drive 35,000 miles a year so my car works for me. Tesla is quite a beautiful car just not for me. I need “range and reliability in freezing temperatures

@luthfikun6601 3 года назад

I was only looking at the title and was like, how the hell there's a supercharger in a Tesla.

@jamesengland7461 3 года назад

It's a dealer- installed option, including curb feelers and sport exhaust.

@johnhunter7244 3 года назад

Rich rebuilds is putting a v8 in a tesla so there could be a supercharged tesla in the future

@3ducs 3 года назад

@@jamesengland7461 Curb feelers! Haven't seen those in many years!

@brantwedel 3 года назад

It's the same technology as the Turbo in a Taycan ;-)

@rscervin9950 3 года назад

@@johnhunter7244 i watch him too,i hope he succeds

@billmcdonald2436 2 года назад

Thank you for posting this. I was concerned about how much winter driving would reduce the range.

@jason41a 2 года назад

i'm really loving these tesla videos. and this guy is very very detailed, informative, and good at communicating those information. i'm fascinated by these vids, but i will personally still drive a gasoline car for at least the next 5-10 years minimum.

@PhilipOberg 3 года назад

There are a few Tesla's up here in Yukon Canada. -28°C right now. Go test a Tesla in Dawson city, Yukon and you could see if it will function at -50°!

@alexi077 3 года назад

Dude @ -50 its already hard to even start up a diesel, what are you talking about. I am pretry sure that ICE engines dont appreciate this Kind of engine cycles either. Normal cold Starts are already pretty stressfull for an engine. Everything below 20°C startup is a reason for premature death for pistons, their rings, cylinder walls and crank bearings

@Leviathan02464 3 года назад

The media center in my truck does not like working past -30 I can only imagine the large display in a tesla

@LordLoMR2 3 года назад

I drove my Tesla in -45 F with windchill -55 F in Minnesota 2 years ago. Wasn’t too bad, only used 390wh/mi. But the suspension did sound funny because it was so cold - but still drove just fine.

@MHdollrevievs 3 года назад

EVs don’t start they turn on. Yes they work fine in any weather.NASA had an EV on the Moon in the early 1970s.

@0tispunkm3y3r 3 года назад

I can’t imagine -28 let alone -50! What?!

@Theyorkshirepirlo 3 года назад

If you close your eyes Ross from friends is telling you about Tesla’s

@ianwatson3315 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@AaronBlake 3 года назад

can not un-hear/see this now.

@jonnygeez 3 года назад

All I could hear was Kermit the frog.

@DeezNuts- 3 года назад

@@AaronBlake yup

@zenxyphen4443 Год назад

Most thorough information!! You make the best videos! Thank you!!

@slivkask8329 10 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for the winter trip and for the detailed decomposition of it! 👍

@CarputingYT 3 года назад

Awesome video, Jason! Thanks for providing content for free, that is better than what multi-million dollar TV companies can!

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

Too kind, really appreciate it!

@BubbaFett3333 3 года назад

it's cute that "as low as -18" equates to a cold test for you. Signed, Canada.

@dazjams1 3 года назад

Alaska concurs.

@mimmipiggast2243 3 года назад

I think it should be -32 because he said 0 degrees F if I heard correctly. That's more like it. Signed Sweden 😁❄️☃️

@pgljoy 3 года назад

Cute -18. Cold please do a real test the North like -30c these are real conditions -18 that’s when I put on a long sleeve shirt

@Fred_P 3 года назад

@@mimmipiggast2243 That's not how °C/°F conversion works. 0°C = 32°F but 0°F ≈ -18°C. The formula is F = 1.8C + 32, or if you prefer, C = (F - 32)/1.8

@mimmipiggast2243 3 года назад

@@Fred_P you are right. I mixed it up 😁 I lived in Houston for a year but we never had to deal w those temperatures. 😁 I usually just ask Alexa.

@benj8682 Год назад

Great explanation of charging strategy!

@ev.c6 Год назад

Very comprehensive video! Thanks, man!

@Col.Klink. 3 года назад

You drove 2500 miles with an open cat litter box right behind you? That's some dedication.

@miketeeveedub5779 3 года назад

Jason: "Road trip!" Cat: "Let's go!"

@AWildBard 2 года назад

At least your heat pump was working! Thank goodness. Hope they get that figured out quickly.

@Phat737 Год назад

Great test and review, thank you.

@AdmGrumby 3 года назад

I live in rural Canada and it is minus 36 Celsius (minus 33 Fahrenheit) as I watch the above video so the temperatures described in the vid are a bit mild. Also, the road trip was through populated areas with relatively clear roads. In that scenario Tesla performed perfectly adequately, and I find myself pleasantly surprised. But responsible winter driving focuses on safety, not on trivial inconveniences like reduced temperatures or excess minutes spent at a charging station. Fundamentally, winter driving comes down to the risk of being stranded with your vehicle and having to wait a seriously long time for help to arrive. With an ICE vehicle that risk is mitigated by frequently filling up with fuel so that the tank is always at or near full capacity. That surplus fuel used sparingly could keep a stranded driver and passengers warm for days if necessary. If EV drivers routinely run their batteries from 20% to 75% capacity to minimize charging times, then a rural white-out or a mishap on black ice could end in tragedy. EV drivers can learn to better manage that risk, but ICE vehicles will be safer in rural areas in the north. But what about winter conditions that result in black-outs? Ice storms are not infrequent and routinely leave millions without power for a short time, and leave EV vehicles instantly without a charging source. That's not just a risk for EV's caught out looking for a charging station. That's a risk for EV owners at home who need their vehicle for emergency use such as evacuation. There's a significant niche for EV's now but they can be problematic, even dangerous for use in certain winter and other emergency conditions. I would be interested in seeing and evaluation of EV's in that context.

@bobsaturday4273 2 года назад

what are you blithering about ? I'm in Canada too . who in their right mind buys a tesla sports car to drive in the WINTER here ??? or any sports car ? you've been eating that yellow snow ! stop it ! your arguments are not observations , just goofy postulating and melodramatic fretting . you must be out east with your "ice storms" which you surmise will leave you stranded when having to go drive in the middle of it (are you off your rocker ) , for all those that keep their EV discharged waiting for it to happen , I guess . then " emergency use such as evacuation." ??? In 70 years out here on the prairie we've never needed to evacuate , how bout you ? just making garbage up ! if you "evacuate lots you'd better get a nice gas powered HELICOPTER !!! "then a rural white-out or a mishap on black ice could end in tragedy" what are you blithering about ? how does that not happen with ANY vehicle ? stop your bs

@infiltr80r 2 года назад

@@bobsaturday4273 Teslas are now sports cars? You can drive most Porsches and Audis without any issues in winter as many do here (north, not Americas). Needless to say, Teslas are deeply discounted. Fun toys, totally impractical.

@johncahill3644 2 года назад

I’m trying to understand your concern. My Model 3 LR is all wheel drive (they all are) and performs remarkably well in ice and snow conditions. As for blackouts (which I have experienced), it’s much less of a problem than with an ICE car. In my case, the Model 3 is plugged in and “topped up” when the blackout happens. Now in a blackout I can’t get additional electricity but you can’t pump gas either. What are the odds your ICE car has a full tank when a blackout randomly occurs?

@infiltr80r 2 года назад

@@johncahill3644 You need to pump gas way less frequently. The tank is so much bigger. Some places like Florida and 3rd world countries have generators for blackouts. In rural areas, you're also likely to have gas stored away in a canister for a chainsaw or other equipment.

@SammyVista1972 3 года назад

You took Bucket with you! Bucket is so adorable, cats (and dogs!) never complain about the radio station you are listening to, they are in the present and give you their vibes of warmth and love. They have such a calming effect for us as well. The perfect traveling companions. Thank you for posting about the road trip in the Tesla and showing Bucket!

@CliffordMiemban Год назад

Here's the FACTS: We just did a 5k Road trip from Austin to Bismarck, then Wisconsin,etc... I drove my brand new 2023 Y Long Range, and my brother brought his 2023 Toyota Sienna Hybrid, and he beats us in every way - I charged MULTIPLE TIMES & the SUPERCHARGERS were so EXPENSIVE, then he just STOP half of what i did, and he spent less 30% than me, after we calcluate everything. To make rhe long story siort, his family had way better experience than mine,as they don't need to keep on stopping to charge, and their captain chair is so nice! Only super fanboys/fangirls will say that Tesla is good for Road Trips, as in the reality is, ALL NEW MINIVANS still the KING when it comes to ROAD TRIP, period. (TESLA is only good for short trips) Have an amazing day to y'all!

@1govguy 2 года назад

Excellent Review! You answered a lot of questions I had about EVs. I live in a climate where we easily hit -31 - -40 farenheit regularly over the winter and you've given me a good idea what to expect during times like that. For now i'll stick to gas powered or a hybrid.

@bobjohnson1587 Год назад

Me, too!

@richiehart7858 Год назад

Tesla will have to up it's game on a very solvable problem if it wants more than a token share of the northern market for vehicles.

@sjsomething4936 Год назад

@@richiehart7858 if by “very solvable problem” you mean maintaining range in very low temperatures, myself and many other EV owners would greatly appreciate if you’d sell your solution to Tesla, GM, Ford so that we can all enjoy the improved range.

@markmiller8903 Год назад

Ban EVs.

@bobjohnson1587 Год назад

@@markmiller8903 That would be a good start! lol

@michaelmcmenzie6928 2 года назад

Great video as always very informative. The problem I have with electric cars is I don't fall into 70,000-100,000 price range. I spend $35000 on a car. And I get 30 to 32 miles to the gallon I've driven across country at least 8 times and never had to think so much in my life about driving! that's the crazy part. when you're traveling across country you're thinking about places you want to stop and visit, not where I can charge. if I wanted to get across the country in the straight line I would take a plane.

@jermwerty 2 года назад

I got a brand new 2018 Nissan Leaf in 2019 when the 2020s came out for $24K ($10k off MSRP due to 2 year old new car still on lot) plus got a $7k federal tax rebate. So call it $17k for a brand new electric car. I would never drive it more than just around town or the next city over, and I think road tripping with anything but a Tesla for an EV is still a horrible experience. I'm with you, I'll fly on an airplane if I'm going across country. Or I'll just use my gas vehicle for regional trips. But for a family with 2 or more cars, one should always be EV in my opinion they are just more fun to drive and nearly free to operate when you drive them locally and charge at home! (full charge for me is $2.50 - $3)

@wanglee21 2 года назад

Most people who purchase Teslas are top 20% income earners or they have youtube or social media business that they can write off 100% of the business investment. Most social media business own Telsa for the tax write offs.

@AaronSchwarz42 2 года назад

@@wanglee21 Especially this engineering nerd!

@harrison00xXx 2 года назад

@@AaronSchwarz42 Who cares? As much im against that early EV introduction and the e-waste of batteries and their recycling, if i could afford a Tesla i would, also if i hate this fake inventor and INVESTOR ONLY (from the super rich parents which probably abused a lot of people in their mines) Elon Musk.

@leftmikerightmike 2 года назад

The base Model 3 without savings or tax incentives is $45k. The long range all wheel drive is $51k. Not sure where your $70-100k idea came from but there are plenty of electric cars under $50k new and if you’re financing you should factor in your gas savings. I save about $250/mo on gas switching.

@naps3386 3 года назад

Plan an hour for charging and driving out of your way to charge. Road trips suck in a Tesla, the charging time adds a ton of time even to a day trip

@JD-yx7be 3 года назад

Getting better every year. Imagine doing cross county in 2013 compared to today. Now think about how much better it would be in the next few years when 250kw chargers are common

@naps3386 3 года назад

I was using 250kW super chargers every time. There is no getting around having to wait if you are on a long trip, I even cut the charging time short so I could get going. I started with a 54 mile surplus for my anticipated 175 mile leg and ended with 15 miles to spare. There is such a thing as range anxiety and when it’s night time and you just want to get home, the last thing you want to do is go to another supercharger for the 4th time in a day.

@brandonpreston84 Год назад

Just took a trip from MD To Tennessee in a model 3. I drove about 900 miles one way. I even had to drive through the artic blast that occured right before Christmas. Yes if you are in a hurry, it will bother you driving an EV. I would say it fairly added 1 and a half to two hours extra time. The range does decrease as it gets colder. When I was driving, it went from 51 degrees to 6 in about two hours. All in all, I made it with no issues and it handled very well in frozen precipitation.

@palco22 Год назад

Very well presented. Great job.

@ManCaveStudio 3 года назад

This is by far the best video I have ever seen explaining things you have to think about when owning an electric car. What I have learned is I never want to own one. Too much to think and worry about. No thanks. 😁

@richardlarson2969 3 года назад

When I drive my ICE vehicle in weather like that shown on your camera, I always travel with a full tank of gas just in case there is a stoppage and I need to sit there with the engine running and heater on. Traveling with less than a full charge seems a tad risky because you never know in that weather.

@harsimranbansal5355 3 года назад

Bjorn Nyland on RU-vid did a test to see how long the battery would take to drain, it took over 3 days in a Tesla. I think he’ll be fine!

@mrdumbfellow927 3 года назад

@@harsimranbansal5355 I belive he's saying that the extra charging stops are a good idea because it's the electric vehicle version of traveling with a full tank of gas. He's not claiming the Tesla isn't capable. I AM curious how well the Tesla does in cold weather when it is 6yrs old and the cells in the battery have some miles on them.

@harsimranbansal5355 3 года назад

@@mrdumbfellow927 It would still be better to just drive to each charging station instead. Also theres a company called “tesloop” and you can watch their videos on RU-vid about how their cars fare. They put like 700k and even 800k miles on the Tesla and some are running with their original battery pack and motor. Plus these were the initial 2013 or 2014 model S’s. The model 3’s should last much much longer and fare much better!

@THESLlCK 3 года назад

@@harsimranbansal5355 that's BS, all these influencers are here to deceive you in the name of the companies they were hired by, it drains in a day at those temperatures

@MrAdopado 3 года назад

@@THESLlCK Does yours drain in a day? No of course not ... you don't have a Tesla yet you seem to know more about them than people who do. I'm not an influencer. I have a Tesla. It doesn't drain in a day at any temperature! Now... who's paying YOU to dis EVs?

@bobnelsonfr Год назад

Excellent video. We need to change our habits in so many ways! Our thinking, in particular.

@stefangroenveld 2 года назад

thanks for sharing your experience...

@dandv5837 2 года назад

This was a pretty level headed video for a Tesla fan. Though I have to say I have a friend with a Tesla we go on vacation with and their Tesla can be a pain. I don't have to plan ahead with my ICE car, they are always trying to route the trip around their need to find chargers and plugs. We all have so much on our plates and going from needing 1 stop and 8 minutes to give my car 500 miles of range to four 30 minutes stops is a pretty big inconvenience. Not to mention you don't even get to pick where you stop, you have to stop where there is a charger, it just takes a lot of freedom out of owning a car. And yes I know more chargers will be built and it will get better.

@dimebucker2 2 года назад

You drive for 500 miles without stopping on your road trips?? ..and when you do stop its only for 8 minutes? wow, sounds fun

@malcomreynolds4103 2 года назад

@K B sounds awful wasting 30% of your day stopping every 90 minutes

@peteparadis1619 2 года назад

It’ll never get better Dude, think, more EV’s and more chargers won’t even even out, It’ll get worse..Imagine ALL cars as EV’s and just step back a little and that’s where you’ll be

@tinytownsoftware3837 2 года назад

@@dimebucker2 When you need to get home, what's wrong with that. Last summer I drove from VA to to CT in 7 hours. I stopped once a few minutes to pee. It's hilarious to me that EV fanbois are telling everyone how and how long they SHOULD be driving, because we're all doing it wrong apparently. Or maybe you're just finding reasons to excuse the inadequacies of EVs...

@ifirekirby7498 2 года назад

@@malcomreynolds4103 “Every 90 minutes” when the range on a Tesla performance is now 315 miles. You’re delusional.

@ZachGrabill 3 года назад

I mean, 8 hours of charge time on a 2000 mile journey. Seems like a ton, especially vs fuel fill-ups.

@harbl2479 3 года назад

If you look at it from a perspective of one stop every 200 miles, then it doesn’t sound that much. That’s 3 hours of driving between stops, at which point it’s nice to have a walk and go to the toilet.

@Sinr0ne 3 года назад

@@harbl2479 Would definitely not stop every 200 miles with a regular car, heck Ive driven to Rovaniemi 4 times from Helsinki (820km), one without any stops, once with a piss stop by the road and twice where we went to eat. I consider it a waste of time if I constantly have to stop. Electric cars for me are something you drive in the city or close proximity. Wouldnt do roadtrip with one.

@Iambriangregory 3 года назад

@@Sinr0ne first of all you're more than likely a spoiled out of touch traveler who is held captive to recency bias who doesn't take into account the fact that if you made the trip a hundred years ago it would take you three times longer that's what makes you spoiled and you don't seem to realize that you're convenience of the gas vehicle is putting soot up your nose and your lungs and your mouth and everywhere else in the environment but again typically you don't care about that so what different does it make your health versus convenience sorry for the tough talk but people like you need wake up calls but most times you never wake up it seems but that's on you.

@sz8938 3 года назад

@@Iambriangregory just accept you got suckered by Elon. Cope more.

@Iambriangregory 3 года назад

@@sz8938 seems like you must think you're a talking to a mirror because people in the position of dominance and intelligence don't have to accept anything and you are common as shown that your brain and needs to be recharged I think on the supercharger because it has nothing to offer to anybody except your opinion which is like noses everyone's got one! So you have anything of value to contribute to the discussion after that brain is recharged you can recommend but you better recharge that brain. And recognize your condition of not recognizing the advances that have been made in this technology but for a spoiled person they wouldn't recognize that at all go ahead and recharge it'll take a couple years probably to get you to 50%, hahaha

@davidshettlesworth1442 Год назад

Thank you for an excellent video. I learned a lot.

@rfjohns1 3 месяца назад

I prefer stopping at any old gas station and filling up in 5-10 minutes and all i need to look at is the gas gauge. Also unlimited heat and A/C without worrying about mileage. Also pull through reliable gas pumps with roofs is nice. AND, i always have the option to carry a gas can.

@Cormac11822 3 года назад

Thank you for excellent fact filled description. My take away: You started with a full charge and made 11 recharge stops. I regularly make a similar trip in my 36mpg Honda. Regardless of outside temperature, I stop 5 times x 10 minutes.

@DChrls 3 года назад

But look how little traffic there is on the road. Do the same trip, in the winter from NYC to Chicago.

@rpap5322 3 года назад

you can not beat gas powered vehicles...plus the cost of the tesla versus the cost of the honda what would be the difference in cost..... you can buy a hell of a lot of gas for the difference in vehicle prices.....plus what is the cost of replacing the battery pack in the tesla. only a few places can work on a tesla, and i would assume you will get spanked harder at that repair shop versus the cost at a gas vehicle dealership...

@prule1335 3 года назад

@@rpap5322 and what happens if you get stuck in a huge backup from a flipped 18 wheeler and your battery is about dead and no chargers in sight?

@rslover65 2 года назад

@@prule1335 it's going to use very little electricity just sitting there, and they have an off switch. Y'know, exactly like a regular car.......

@whitemike3580 2 года назад

Not if you have the heat on....

@lasersimonjohnson 3 года назад

Because of the cat, I would have liked this video twice if possible 😂

@ScathingMobile 3 года назад

I liked the video and your comment as an alternative.

@razinhailsharp4439 3 года назад

@@ScathingMobile SAMESIES!

@johnscott5662 2 года назад

Great information. Thank you.

@christopherszack1143 Год назад

I'll point out that north of your American border we often experience temperatures lower than -40c. Great information and math, and definitely clarifies many questions about cold weather performance. I would love to see how this compares to use in actual "really cold temperatures."

@davik9003 Год назад

@@fergyspoolshots ok you'll see them, brand new. I want to see one with regular use that is five, six years old, my guess is you'd have about a golf cart's level of range at that point. Not a realistic deal if you ask me.

@redbaron6805 Год назад

@@davik9003 That is actually a logical fallacy, as heat kills batteries, which is the reason they have a pretty sophisticated cooling system. Cold actually extends their lifespan, as it slows down the chemistry and increases their lifespan. So, while cold weather reduces range, it also makes the battery last longer as a side effect. This is counter intuitive to people used to combustion engine Lead Acid batteries not lasting as long, but that is due to the load and strain put on those to start cold engines, while the capacity of the battery is already reduced.

@i6power30 Год назад

You won't get the temperature you set to in any weather colder than -5C. Basically the car will prioritize range over comfort. You can set it to 25. It will never heat up near it. Maybe 18-20 after long time. If you put it at max heat, maybe it'll reach 23-24. It's never as toasty as gas car as they have almost unlimited engine residual heat

@redbaron6805 Год назад

@@i6power30 It actually depends on the car. I have driven some very fuel efficient cars with 4 cylinder engines, and those also struggled to heat the car, as they really didn't produce enough heat. But, the advantage of engines only being 20% to 30% efficient instead of over 90% efficient like electric motors are, you have all this waste heat you can use when it is cold, but is obviously useless when it is hot outside...

@JoshAllenberg Год назад

@@fergyspoolshots I like how teslatards always think its about being stuck on the big oil plantation. No its about having the most capable vehicle. I have a truck because I use it. I prefer gas or diesel because I would rather not wait an hour while my vehicle charges. If I'm stopped for an hour, its because I choose to. I also prefer ICE since housing is stupidly expensive here and having a garage to charge the thing is an incredible luxury. Guess who owns teslas? All the rich foreigners who have never done any real work in their lives. They're all bug people who would never survive outside of a city

@zynzy4u 3 года назад

This is by far the most accurate and informative video by MR. EE. He sticks to real data and real world situations to provide useful and accurate analysis of the electric car reality. Kudos on this video Mr. EE. Glad you showed you could make a video not filled with misinformation and errors. Beautiful kitty too. Wish all your videos were this well informed and accurate.

@Alex.AL_26 3 года назад

My question is does the navigation system know the exterior temperature so it gives you a proper battery range when you reach your next supercharger. If it does not take temperature into account i would be worried it may want to bring you to a supercharger you can get to during the summer but might not make it to during very cold weather.

@EngineeringExplained 3 года назад

Yes, it takes into consideration temperature as well as elevation changes between stops. The predictions were usually close, but wind is difficult to predict. If you get a headwind that can turn things around quickly.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад

@@EngineeringExplained Was the AC the main additional power drain in the summer? Maybe a better comparison would have been winter vs. spring or fall when AC isn't used much (assuming you used AC in the summer trip. I'm watching that video next).

@przemoczat1 3 года назад

Does it also take to the account the speed? Or it just predicts that u will stick to the speed limi?

@VinDieselS70 3 года назад

Tesla Bjørn's channel in Norway do plenty of these tests that can be quite handy to checkout too.

@cgamiga 3 года назад

The onscreen "Energy" app has a Trip tab, which shows Projected and Actual(live/real) range curve to arrival (ideally, next Supercharger.) It seems to be very accurate, but worst-case (eg you hit unexpected headwinds, speeding, rain/snow on road etc), the Actual curve will show the diverging higher usage and lower SoC at arrival, so you can take into account. The car will also alert you at some point "Slow down to make destination", but, that's kind of late, best to peek occasionally at the curve if you are worried. Ideally, don't plan to arrive with minimal charge so you don't worry. Other apps eg ABetterRoutePlanner can also take weather into account as a second opinion/check during planning (free version input weather manually, but premium version has live weather/traffic/Supercharger availability)

@DAh-xo8zm Год назад

Looks like a beautiful drive. Good vid ;)

@GustavoFAlmeida Год назад

I was realy looking forward for that explain about the "chill" part right at the end. 😂 Great report on these two long trips. Cold weather can make it a bit harder to use an EV but charging while your battery is warm will really help 👍

@NarenRavi88 3 года назад

This is a great video. I experience this in New England winters! Had the same conundrum driving from NJ to Boston last night. Drive slow or send it and charge multiple times because temps were 8 and windy! One thing that probably adds to the 41% drop is luggage, skis etc. Weight makes a huge difference.

@shealaking8557 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your experience! It's good to hear actual perspective from someone doing this.

@markcollins457 5 месяцев назад

Im happy you are doing the comparisons some comparisons are not they start off the reviews with a preconceived slant. You keep it honest and use data .

@functionalvanconversion4284 Год назад

Thank you for the relevant analysis. Such a great perspective for anyone considering an EV to compare with their ICE. I wouldn't mind the charging as I find myself stopping every hour or two to walk, eat, do some work, use my cellphone or take a nap. Thanks for your time in doing these!!!!

@twelvewingproductions7508 3 года назад

I love this kind of thing because as they say... One physical test is worth a thousand expert opinions. Well done. Thanks.

@asajayunknown6290 3 года назад

I love this guy. That being said, absent any fundamental change in the driving realities of EVs, I will not be purchasing an EV anytime soon. Far too expensive, given the hassle of range anxiety and I do NOT stop when I do road trips. I've gone 500 miles without stopping, many times, then 20 minutes to gas up and use the facilities, and back on the road. The places I go to are not near any major airports so driving is far more efficient, but not if it'll take "days" to make the 15- hour trip. And, before everyone starts with the "you're unique" comments, I am trying to bring up the fact that most people will only adopt new technology as long as it's "better" than the current tech. More hassle is the exact opposite of better.

@derekisthematrix 2 года назад

Or they'll put up with the inconveniences if its significantly cheaper. Right now EVs are both less capable AND more expensive.

@billyteee 8 месяцев назад

Excellent video!

@Teslacustoms 5 месяцев назад

Love the video! Was curious on my 2022 model 3 P. In winter vs summer. I love road trips here in Florida in my Tesla. U can’t beat it at 100 mpg equivalent gas even in winter!!!

@701garage 3 года назад

That's one big thing my friends says with his tesla up in ND he says he get about half the mileage and doesn't let it sit out over night

@christopherhaak9824 3 года назад

It can't sit out overnight, it burns so much energy keeping the batteries warm, especially with the current weather there (not about 0F for days on end).

@TKUA11 3 года назад

What happens when the batteries start to lose their capacity ?

@anne_n_nimity 3 года назад

@@TKUA11 you get even less range

@anne_n_nimity 2 года назад

@@christopherhaak9824 So "saving the planet" with a BEV requires that everyone in cold climates build a heated garage...no carbon footprint there 🤣

@leaflover3497 3 года назад

My husband and I just did our first road trip in January. We were further south so it wasn’t as cold, but still freezing temperatures and snow. We also stopped at superchargers more frequently than the car indicated. Mostly because neither of us were comfortable going down to 5% and we’re older now so have to stop more frequently anyway 😅😅. I think how frequently you stop really depends on your own risk tolerance. If you want to risk the low battery, go for it, but if you’re more cautious like us then stop more often. And the superchargers were never in bad locations. Most of them were located in the parking lot of Holiday Inn Express motels. Pretty easy to find, and they let you come in to use the bathroom. We were nervous because this was our first road trip but I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again.

@arthurwagar88 Год назад

Sure would like to have a Tesla. Thanks for sharing. BTW great comments.

@richiehart7858 Год назад

The charging time discussion is informative.

@EdwardTilley 3 года назад

Great Video Jason. Impressive to see you cite so many stats while driving uninterrupted. Smart lad and a good perspective view on electric roadtrips

@ericweiss5235 2 года назад

Eventually you will have to wait for the chargers. I think that problem is being hugely underestimated.

@davidbingham4348 2 года назад

Assuming they continue to build cars but don’t build any more chargers, you would be correct. Fortunately Tesla and the other EV makers continue to both a) build new chargers and b) increase charging speeds, both of which will reduce waits.

@THESLlCK 2 года назад

@@davidbingham4348 not at a fast enough rate lol

@mrpoizun 2 года назад

Wait? I've never even seen an electric car, much less a charging station!

@billdefalco7015 2 года назад

There have already been many instancces of people encountering long waiting times for an open spot at a charging station. I agree the situation is only going to get worse. This is why - given the current battery technology - that Plug-in Hybrid cars are a much better alternative to the 100% battery-powered eelectric cars, since their drivers can opt to quickly gas up at any convenient gas station, instead of waiting on long line for an open chrging spot at a charging station.

@davepaturno4290 2 года назад

8 hours of charging? That's probably much more than pumping gas in a Prius with a fairly small gas tank and a 600 mile range.

@BrandonAaskov 4 месяца назад

This was a really helpful video. Thank you very much. That is all :)

@flcps 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting and well made video....

@kajzersoze8051 3 года назад

Thank you for doing this. I live in Canada and this answered a lot of questions I had. Great job, one of the best channels on web.

@julioblanco 3 года назад

100% props for making the cat comfortable. With my dogs, you have to stop fairly frequent anyways.

@NoHandles333 2 года назад

Thank you for all the stats. 👍 Great Channel.

@donaldhu2392 2 года назад

Thanks for your video, it makes me consider more factors when purchasing a Tesla, :)

@oneaburns 2 года назад

I love the little setup you had for the cat and heating the seat for him :)

@billsherman6129 2 года назад

Other power-sucking factors: In winter it's darker so headlights are used more often. May also need to use window defrost. Problems with comparing driving in opposite direction: typical direction of prevailing wind (with vs. against), altitude gain/loss (more downhill in one direction vs. more uphill in the other direction).

@jeffpicken5057 Год назад

I had the same thoughts about the driving direction. Jason didn't say whether this was a circular loop, meaning he ascended and descended the same amount regardless of direction, though grade may be a factor. As for the headlights, as they're LED, that would have very little affect on power usage. AC is a different story, I imagine.

@redbaron6805 Год назад

@@jeffpicken5057 A/C is far less of a factor than heat, especially in this car which doesn't have a heat pump like the newer versions. A/C uses around 5% to 10% more energy, worst case scenario. I tested this on my Model S, I turned off the A/C and monitored the watts per mile gauge, and then turned it on and checked it. The difference was barely noticeable. A/C's on cars cycle on and off to maintain temperature. Keep in mind that a 10,000 BTU A/C uses around 1000W each hour. With electric cars having 60kWh up to 200kWh today. The A/C will worst case scenario use up 2 to 3 miles of range each hour.

@martingardens Год назад

In most cars, the windshield defroster also runs the A/C to dehumidify the cabin. I don't own a Tesla, so is there a windshield defroster blower that's employing the A/C and generating heat? (ICE cars using waste heat to accomplish this.) Or is the windshield heated with embedded wires like my e-Golf which also has a blower?

@redbaron6805 Год назад

@@martingardens Tesla's also use the A/C to dehumidify the air if you are driving in the rain or snow and you need to remove humidity. In most cases, just blowing warm air on the windshield works fine without the dehumidify function, as the dew point of warm air is much lower than cold air, so the problem resolves itself. I lived over 20 years in a European country with cold humid winters, and none of the cars back then even had A/C units at all, so there was no dehumidify function on the cars. It still worked just fine.

@chrisshin238 2 года назад

You explain and present very thoughtfully even I am the Tesla fan. It's very Good point and I will check it out Taycan GTS...

@305dreamhonda 5 месяцев назад

Thank you I’m about ready to pull the trigger on a new model Y and I’ve been concerned about winter road trips. I watched the Ohio Tesla guy go through blizzard and he had a miserable low efficiency trip. I think he had a lot of things going on and it really discouraged me.this video has helped me and I appreciate it. Thank you very much.