How Moskva couldn’t do defend itself but USS Carney dealt with threats like a pro? 

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The US destroyer CHEATED!!! They had fully working equipment and a well trained and alert crew! Not Fair! Not Fair! /sarcasm

I thought Russia said somebody was smoking 😂

Anti-ship missile will be the main threat to ships for a long time but now with the introduction of drone ships, drone subs, drone aircraft things are about to get very interesting 🤔

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Additionally, the USS Carney had one of its two CIWS removed and replaced with1 SeaRAM CIWS. It is significantly more potent than the standard CIWS. The Carney has also two Mk 38 25 mm auto canons.

BECAUSE RUSSIA HAS NEVER BEEN ON OUR LEVEL! IS NOT, HAS NOT, WILL NOT EVER BE!

Its simple , the Slava class cruisers followed the Russian concept of giant missile carriers with high offensive capabilities They packed in so much weapons for offense, they left little room for defensive weapons Combined with the fact that ships sensors were antiquated and the obsolescence of the Russian navy its no wonder that the Black Sea Fleet has been Ukraine's punching bag

no matter what, it comes down to TRAINING! if you train up your crew they can keep things working and use that equipment the way it needs to be used for the situation

When I was in the Navy in the late 80’s, after coming out of the yard, it was training, training, training until you could do it in your sleep. #USN

Orc warships have outdated esm which have difficulty detecting vampires with low radar wave emission and wide,random and rapid frequency change capability in time.

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Well, now I know! Great job. Canadian Veteran

It's crazy how Russia failed in anti-aircraft defense.

Superb as usual!

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Russia has become a joke now a days even though I respect Russia

The Slava Class Carries more Arsenal for anti ship capabilities It has no land attack capability yet this mission required both land attack and anti air defence The USS carney Has an overall superior sensor suit Making it suitable for ASW and anti air missions

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Houthi missile didn't have LPI seeker,which meaned SLQ32 detected it relatively easy.

Moskva can be a Submarine though

I heard from some reports that some of the anti-air systems aboard the Moskva weren't even on/active. I don't know if that's accurate or not. Obviously, it doesn't matter how good a ship's air defense is if it's not even ON. I doubt we'll know until there's a change in leadership in Russia.

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Maybe the Neptune missiles were too late recognized as a threat by the Moskva because of their Russian technology, like the Excocet missile with the British navy during the Falkland War. Air defence computers must be up-to-date with the threat recognition during a conflict....

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Please, ship speed is not measured miles or kilometers, it is measured knots which is nautical miles per hour or 1.15 miles per hour. For example 10 knots is 11.5 mph.

Not fair comparison. Ukraine did not attack the Moskova during business hours.

It's the waves

An analysis done by USNI on April 13, 2024 states that "The review of images following the strike of the two Neptune anti-ship missiles from open-source naval analyst and retired Navy Capt. Chris Carlson told USNI News that the guided-missile cruiser did not have its fire control radars activated and could not see the threat from the two sea skimming weapons. In the photo of Moskva after the strike, the radars “are in their normal stowed position”. The OSA-M directors also appear stowed in the images. Ukraine used effective environmental factors and proper offensive jamming to conduct the attack.

Don't over think it. Apparently toilets on Moskva are simple holes in the deck. Growing up in Russia , I 100% believe it

Data was provided by usa satellite, how will u strike an enemy whose location is unknown that too with 2 missiles

For the Russian missiles would you please use the US DoD/NATO designations please.

Where da Russian trolls at???

The ChiComms have to be privately quite annoyed with the Houthis. Although their weapons shot at US ships probably aren’t as sophisticated as what the Chinese have, until now no navy has had to deal with such weapons in an actual combat situation. The US Navy is getting very valuable experience with dealing with ASBMs.

That title need editing.

Just more truth about the reality of Russian equipment quality. Not what they tell us.

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In reality, what matter is the ability of the Carney to detect antiship missile with its excellent AN/SPY-1D and AN/SPQ-9B radars. Furthermore, Carney does not have huge antiship missiles sitting on the deck in multiple launchers which if hit, would cause many missiles to explode consecutively causing huge fire that sinks the ship like the Moskva. So had Carney been hit by even 2 missiles, it probably would survive. The fire control system on Carney is highly integrated, which provide fast response time for defense. Arleigh Burke class destroyers had been hit by suicide boat and a larger commercial ship yet did not sink. Even the smaller American Oliver Hazard Perry frigate had been hit by sea skimming missile and mine an did not sink, clearly showing the effectiveness of their ship design. The Moskva huge 3D Top-pair radar rotated much more slowly and it is unclear how good it is at detecting sea skimming small missiles in sea clutter. It is also unclear how reliable are these radars and how good is the fire control system and how well train is the crew. It did not seem that Moskva even detected the 2 antiship missiles. The huge antiship missiles mounted on its deck made it an inferno once those were hit by the Ukrainian missiles. That plus the obvious top-heavy design ensure a very poor outcome eventhough it is a large ship.

Hamas is not a full-scale armed force, unlike the Ukranian forces, which is a completely armed force. This is also an additional factor that has worked in fair of the US ship.

From what I've heard, the answer is weapons on US ships are manned and maintained in an operational state 24/7. Russia can't even manage to accomplish that much in an active combat zone. So much easier to shoot down incoming missiles when you don't have to search for the guys onboard who operate the defenses and drag the all away from bed, meals, the latrine, etc.

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I believe this to be the most likely scenario being played out: US weapons, sensors and platforms both sea and air, are about 3 decades ahead of Russia's abilities and 1 to 2 decades ahead of the Chinese. Now think about this, when the next World War breaks out, likely soon, the US will then be deploying many new technologies that the Russians and Chinese will have no chance of contending with. Think about the UAP's you hear so much about from the Naval Aviators and radar operators on ships that have talked about them. These UAP's were developed and built by DARPA, they've not been talked about except for the last few years. These UAP's have propulsion systems based upon DARPA breakthroughs in the realms of gravitational and electromagnetic propulsion systems. They are being allowed to be talked about now in the hopes that our enemies will be deterred from starting another major war against the West, knowing we have this technology which would render all of their military obsolete the second they're used on the battlefield. Just as an FYI I base this prognostication about our new technology upon the persistent rumors I heard back in the late 1990's and early 2000's when I had a TS-SCI and worked at a secure facility in San Diego and later when I worked as a technical Tiger Team lead at AIRPAC. The most persistent rumors we heard about DARPA was that they had made huge breakthroughs in the miniaturization of Laser systems, and in the area of gravitational and electromagnetic propulsion. When I saw the first video from the Navy (Cmdr Fraver I think was the pilot) showing the TIc Tac UAP, the DARPA rumor was the first thing I thought of because an engineer once explained how that type of propulsion would work and how aircraft equipped with it would behave; and what he explained was exactly what I saw in those UAP videos.

The primary difference between these ships is simple. Crew morale, training, expertise and motivation are crucial factors. Moskva had been underway for how long? Ukraine had not used, such missiles early in the ship's deployment. Rather the Moskva's crew had time to fall into a routine of nothing much matters, nothing much happens. Only then, when two high performance missiles were fired. The ships defenses, were caught unprepared to defend the ship. Offline, unmanned, or poorly maintained makes, little difference. Moskva is a excellent example of why the mostly missile armed ships are fast becoming obsolete. Hits cause a fire fighting nightmare. Solid fuel missiles are very impressive in the air. Below decks, every part of the missile burns extremely well. Being nearly impossible to put out. So? A ship full of missiles burns out, or explodes at sea. This is far from the only reason mostly missile armed ships are going obsolete. The second is low cost drones can soon deplete the onboard supply of missiles. Leaving the ship, nearly defenseless from incoming missiles. At first glance, USS Zumwalt seems like a solution for some of these problems. Until one learns that the ship's 155mm guns were shackled to firing only 1 type of round. A rocket assisted guided munition. Little different than a missile in cost. Ships need multi purpose guns for a variety of reasons. Amphibious gunfire support is just one mission. Laser guided guns can be used for point defense. Energy weapons are an option. Until one considers the fuel needed to generate the power to operate them. An energy weapon equipped ship won't be very practical at sea, until fusion powered ships become available. Accordingly in addition to missiles at least two types of multipurpose guns are needed at sea. Weapons in the 40mm to 100mm range primarily for point defense. Weapons in the 140mm to 210mm range for longer range missions. Guns that can also be used against low cost armed drones. Such weapons should all be of at least 60 caliber barrel length.

Several years ago, when a US Arleigh Burke was in the Black Sea for the Sea Breeze exercises with Ukraine, Anatoly Nogovitsin, a Russian propagandist, remarked that the Moskva could sink every enemy ship in the Black Sea with a single volley. Lol. Ole Nogo. Its too bad he wasn't around to get his heart broken. I did 6 years as a cryptologist in the US Navy breaking Russian encryptions. I can tell you with certainty they are nowhere close to our level. Remenber, the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga, shot down a satellite. The satellite was traveling around 17,000 mph and tumbling on 3 axis'. The Aegis system not only had to hit the satellite, it had to hit it IN THE FUEL TANK in order to destroy the hydrazine fuel which is very hazardous. They used a modified Standard Missile and they modified the Aegis system and the AN SPY aboard the Lake Erie. Just imagine how complicated and intricate it would be to hit a satellite in a specific area that's traveling faster than a ballistic missile in it's midcourse phase and tumbling on 3 axis'. Not only that, an F15 shot down a satellite in 1985. The F15--undefeated in dog fights. Undefeated as in 104-0 undefeated. Thats 104 Russian planes burned without a single loss of an F15.

Say no more. Truth about the Arleigh Burke destroyers are not just mere hearsay

how? you gave drone boats and other to ukraine

In all fairness the Moskva makes a much better submarine.

You can not compare them as have different defense systems. all USS Arleigh Burke and US Carriers have a decoy rocket defense system, not many people know about it and you can not compare them because of it...

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3 words , russia is antiquated

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American is so cool. Russia is so not cool.

If It was RBS15(FMCW seeker with milliwatt level electric emission), the scenario could be a headache for USS Carney.

Because one is a fine amerikan high end ship, the other is a russian pile of trash...

Then how's the USS Bataan been hit by missiles in read sea can you explain it?

Great but what about that carrier that DID get hit? The Houthis got something through. The ship went straight to Saudi Arabia. This was recently. Our ships aren't invencible.

That was a great insight for the comparison of technologies 👌 It's very impressive how Russia can convert a conflict boat into a functional submarine on time & within budget 😃