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For people, who asked "why don't they just steal star destroyers and use them?" It's actually answered in the comics (canon), the Rebels doesn't have that many people to spare, Star Destroyers needs a lot of people to fully operate. Leia actually hijacked one, but only had a few thousands of workers, this makes the star destroyer a "ghost ship" because they couldn't even detect enemy ships.
The CR-90 Corvette and the Hammerhead Corvette are honestly the most efficient vessels of the Rebel Fleet. The CR-90 is faster, whereas the Hammerhead can take or give a beating. Stolen or purchased corvettes were, after all, what started the buildup of the Rebel Alliance.
Nothing about them is cost-effective though...because neither is of any practical use. CR-90's still can't get away from a fight, and Hammerheds can't accomplish anything. That said...NO ships in Star Wars are any good for what they're used to do.
The old Complete Guide to Ships had some of my favorite world-building in the description of the GR-75 medium transport. Apparently, the Alliance picked them up at steep clearance discounts - dimes on the dollar for a ship capable of rapidly loading, moving, and unloading as much sheer tonnage as the GR-75 can - because Gallofree Yards, the company that built the ships, was going out of business. However, the Alliance techs maintain that even with fire-sale prices, they were still _robbed._ Not only are the ships painfully slow and about as durable as a soap bubble, they also managed to be a maintenance nightmare, despite a pretty simple design. The Alliance fleet's techs ended up breaking down something like one in five GR-75s for parts to keep the rest running. Still, if you need a container ship on a shoestring budget, the GR-75's your man, so the Alliance keeps these deathtraps in service.
Pelta's wings arent added by the Rebels. Rather, it can fold back to the sides of the engine, as shown in the clone wars, thus making them harder to notice for most people.
It already does, Empire at War and its expansion Forces of Corruption. And that has both Space and Ground Battles. …or more specifically it mods. My favorites: Fall of the Republic(Prequel/Clone Wars era) Thrawn's Revenge(Post RotJ Legends era, NOT the sequel trilogy) Awakening of the Rebellion(Original Trilogy) Any of these mods turn Empire at War into an entirely new and much more fun experience than anything Disney can shit out.
@G Zachary Kid, you're just ripping off PragerU talking points. I'd like you to point me to a study that shows women are inherently less likely to want to study STEM. While I'm happy to acknowledge that there are fundamental differences between men and women on average, I haven't seen an iota of evidence that these differences extend to women simply not liking stem. I'm in a stem field and there are plenty of women. And I agree that it is a problem that less men are going to college, but again, I doubt you can show that "3rd wave feminism" is the cause. There are tons of complex economic and social factors. You are grossly oversimplifying complex problems. Grow up, fucking moron.
Used ship dealer to desperate rebels: "Well you see with the hammerhead, she won't be winning any beauty contests anytime soon, but she is solid. Ship like this, be with you till the day you die"
@@Eric-ch6gq yeah, I mean the VCX or the YT series is so well known, yet there are so many more potentials. I always thought refitting a YT 1300 as a heavy bomber would be better (better than what they used in the sequals), the Millennium Falcon is used as a gunship really. There are lots of pirate ships that get mentioned. It would be nice to fleshen that out more.
@@lukesearle1302 yeah, I've thought of a YT-1300 as a bomber, too. We could load a crate full of explosives, pick it up with the mandibles, and drop on target like the 2400 is shown doing here.
@@lukesearle1302 just remembered in Legends/Extended Universe that one time Chewie customized a bunch of bombs to fit one of the escape pod launchers. Then he left a trail of them like land mines. Space mines, I guess we should call them. For some reason, I've been fixated on looking up YT-1300 plans this past month. Even fan art. There's a dev art where someone put extra turrets by replacing the side docking rings. So that'd be four individual guns in addition to the launcher between the mandibles. 👍 I would pick the Stock Passenger version, so (most of) my small crew/family can get their own rooms, and still be able to take cargo jobs using the mandibles. If pressed into combat, we got more field of fire than average. Also, I've been considering a fixed blaster cannon mounted to the cockpit, giving even the pilot shooting ability.
You forgot about the YKL-37R Nova Courier & the Incom X-4. Hopefully you won’t forget the more Obscure ships that computer/video game players have piloted & such…
The CR90 has 6 added guns, including the 4 on top of the Escape pods. The 49 GR transports wasn't bought, they were given to the Rebel Alliance for free when the company went out of business. And if I remember the evacuation of hoth correctly one was converted to a medical transport, and another was transporting the airspeeds. They also had for extra engines added to make them a bit faster.
So when talking about the VR-75 medium transport, at least in Legends, the Rebels where able to get them for Pennie’s on the dollar. The company that made them went bankrupt and were pretty much just giving them away
YT-2400 Light Freighter, Like Dash Rendar's Outrider... from Shadows of the Empire, the REAL story of what happened between the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi... Yes, that is a great ship...
CR-90. One of my Imperial characters nicknamed it "the Rebel Ass-Hauler". He isn't wrong. And yeah, I doubt cost was much of a factor when they either stole a lot of their ships or picked them up at Crazy Jawa's Used Ship yard.
I use to play the old 6D only Star Wars rpg with some friends of mine and I use to love getting a GR-75 and making it a sleeper combat ship. Upgrade the hull armor, shielding and hyperdrive and leave the original as a backup that would be used normally. I would put fire linked heavy ion cannons on it and a fire linked proton torpedo launcher . IT had so much cargo space and that was all that was required for upgrading a ship in that game. We use to have 2 teams and would play against each other it was so much fun and the first time i did it such a surprise. Always wondered why the rebels didn't do something similar.. Like lots on ion cannons and torpedo ships..
Anyone else notice that the ship in TLJ was the Raddus? Great job disney keep trying to insist your characters are better as Ackbar gets air locked like a red shirt.
@@FieldMarshalYT The sad part is that puberty people ignore fact that Lucas Film was solely responsible for canceling Expanded Universe and producing Sequel movies. What should not be surprise as they didn't make good movie from the 80's. Disney is mostly responsible only for books (both canon and re-releases) and some TV shows (Mandalorian).
@@FieldMarshalYT That is what I said. It is just that people confuse which part. Lucas Film is a film/merchandise management studio. They never have book publishing wing, with "Expanded Universe" being licensed publications. It is why most stuff was so hard to get, until Legend's re-release.
The VCX-100 has an equivalent design in Elite: Dangerous. The Asp Explorer shares its distinctive shape and cockpit placement, is almost the same size, and is also known for its range and modularity. The Asp will get you anywhere, and it'll do it fast. It can also be outfitted as a light freighter, thanks to all that module space.
There has been several reasons given, though non I like that much. First, they were throwing everything they had at the ds2, even if they are worst than a kitchen sink. Second, they served as cannon fodder, though that doesn’t seem like the rebels strategy. And third, the alliance wasn’t willing to leave them alone in another system since they are defenceless, and the alliance couldn’t spare ships to leave behind to protect them. Non of those reasons seem good to me, and the real reason is the film makers already had the models and wanted to add some variety to the fleet at endor.
Freighters are the cheapest, most available, and easily adaptable ships to covert for combat/piracy/rebellions, it would seem. Regardless of the type, I'll bet there's a combat variant out there for any one of them.
Also there were 5 most common types of MC80. Most famous and overall powerful MC80 Home One type, that was a defensive behemoth and could almost go toe to toe with battlecruisers thanks to 10 squadrons of fighters aboard. MC80B that had more anti capitalship firepower than Home One but carried only 4 starfighter squadrons. Later bacame a more mass produced main fleet component and got modified to carry 8 squadrons of fighters. MC80 Liberty type that carried only 3 starfighter squadrons and couldn't really win against a star destroyer, even Imp-I but could absorb a lot of fire. Wingless MC 80 Liberty type that was cheaper but didn't carry any fighters on board and finally MC80A which was rather weak, barely going toe to toe with Victory star destroyers, but with 6 starfighters squadrons on board it was one of the better carriers Rebel alliance had.
Well, as an economist/businessman I am a bit concerned about these price tags. I saw a vid not that long time ago, stating the republic/imperial credits can be converted to USD on 1:1 ratio ... sort of ... that seems to make ships of capital grade especially really cheap in my opinion - I do not want brag around (but I do) ... I am good for 1 CR-90 +100% operation costs per year (including crew salaries) ... ofc I assume I would make some incomes while operating such a ship; from the economic view I would prefer doing business with the Medium Tranports, for 180k credits you get a really big cargo hauler, vs. like the YT-1300s, which is a pick-up truck in this regard (or similar ships) ... moving upwards, a Nebulon-B is out of my reach, but I know some people personally who could buy and operate at least 1 or maybe more ... moving upwards, our customers (mostly multinationals) would not really drop a sweat for buying an MC75 or similar ships ... IMO these price tags should go up by 5x or 10x or more ... ofc you can steal pretty much anything, but thats another matter ...
I would take the CR-90 corvette, Hammerhead frigate, Nebulon-B escort frigate, Pelta class frigate, MC-75 cruiser, MC-80 cruiser, VCX-100 light freighter, And the YT-2400.
I always hated the design of the Nebulon B. The spindle middle section makes no sense at all. It wouldn't give that much usable space, but would make the ship ridiculously unsound stability wise.
Mon Calamari can breathe both air and water, but I agree there should be certain sections filled with water reserved for themselves and other aquatic species, it probably isn't healthy for them to go too long without water
I may state this late but for my Star Wars army clone troopers will be my riflemen with Isb troopers commanding squadrons first order heavy blaster for anti tank super battle droids as gunners commando droids as snipers and sith troopers as special forces and for praetorian guards for elite guards
Excerpt from the Star Wars The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels... ~ The Rebels' usage of the Nebulon-B was extensive enough that, during the Battle of Oovo IV, Imperial Admiral Hurkk once expressed irritation and pled that the Imperial fleet, if only once, could destroy a Rebel-owned starship that the Imperials did not originally pay for. ~
Pretty sure that most MC80 cruisers were 1200 to 1300m, bigger than the Vic at 900, but still rather shorter than the ISD at 1600m. Being converted freightors or civilian liners until mich later, I question the power output ability for the various shields and the weapons ability against an ISD, as well as the armor, internal structural strength and armored decks compared to a warship designed for such damage. They also cant carry either the troops or ground vehicles or as many small ships as an ISD. If an ISD gave up its ground troops for space attack craft then an ISD would crush any MC80 without ever firing its main guns. Ship to ship alone the ISD has twice the turbolasers on a flank that an MC80 does, and then has 30 heavy ion cannons before we add in the main battery turrets. I think that people who claim the Mon Cals are superior than ISDs are suffering from the "rebel" thinking and simply wishing and hoping the MCs into a class that they arent in, becuase plot armor. Loking at the shuttles an ISD carries the minimum number is 37 before counting the GAT-12, assault gunboats, Theta At-At barges, Theta shuttles, or 50+ ground vehicles. To play in a space superiority loadout in other words, an ISD could trade out shuttles and AT-ATs and have as many or more GAT-12 blastboats than a MC80 has fighters and shuttles combined. Then add the 72 TIEs. So no, the MC80 is noteably inferior and to rebuild an MC80 into a true warship would be twice as much as claimed and since as noted every MC80 is unique, then the cost would never decrease becuase economic efficiency is lost and the same mod would always have to be tweaked. Imagine the logistical nightmare trying to keep up with all of the different parts that had to be made for a single ship and then get those parts to the right ship as it constantly moves about the galaxy collecting more damage and breakdowns due to normal wear and tear? So no. The MC80 is just a bad warship in all categories and people are riding tinker bells dust on the MC80 being a "good" warship.
The GR-75 was crucial for the RA. It could be a starfighter carrier, fire ship, troop transport and med ship. It could carry 19k tons of cargo which could be worth in the tens of millions depending on the cargo. 200k credits plus maintenance costs is rather cheap.
Not a fan of the Nebulon's design. That skinny little bridge-looking structure connecting the two halves of the ship is just asking to be blown up by fighters -.-.
Though I do not wish to go over things that have been covered, just a thought. The Rebel Alliance came by the larger ships it used any way it could. Blockade runners were the ideal ship. As has already been covered, the Rebels could not go toe to toe with the Imperial navy. The Rebellion needed to move quickly & hit hard. Never staying in one area long enough for effective resistance to gather.
Why the hell are you saying bullshit about Nebulon B? Nebulon B was never intended to replace a star destroyer as a system's main defense capital ship. It was made as an escort frigate, usually on anti-starfighter duty. If a less important system needed a capital ship then a victory star destroyer or arquitens command cruiser was put there, maybe even an Acclamator.
It surprises me how cheap all the starships are. For a military vessel of that size on Earth, most of these would cost hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars (given the determined ~1:1 ratio of USD : credits)
@@JasperKlijndijk still it's strange though given that common goods scale 1:1 in price. The star wars market is weird. It's strange how starships would be priced so low and everything else so high. Are starships really that easy to produce and everything else that hard to produce in Star Wars? Otherwise the pricing makes no sense
well there are thousands of planet like there are thousands of towns in our world, so the market for space travel is huge wich makes specialisation and economie of scale easy for space ships. Just like cars or planes for us. You can buy an small airplane for 6000 dollars, its the fuel, storage and airport fees that make it to expensive for most, not the buying cost
Honestly i wish the rebels where able to fet their hands a small fleet of venetors. As the xeins is just a better version of the ark 170 and the venetors where able to hold hundreds of those for rapid deployment as well. As maintenance the rebels could hav we used a fleet of venetors as a movile repair yard for their fighters. Or even manufacturer new ones as the carriers had more than ample space. Yes theh wouldn't be useful in a dog fight against a imperial star destroyer. But.. their asset as a mobile reapir and refuel yard for snub fighters and possibly even corvets and gunships. Would be great for the rebellion who struggled to maintain a solid base. Plus the venetors have great long range sensors and have more than aple room to hold and train not just new pilots but also ground forces as u could retrofit some of the larger hangers into a combat school. Or just use them to store extra suplies and cargo over the gr75
This is my plan: first, I would get a YT-2400 and use it throughout the Galactic Civil War. After the war ends, I would start a shipping business. When I have enough money, I would buy a VCX-100 freighter, Yt-1300fp freighter, hammerhead frigate and a Pelta class frigate in order to expand my business.
The VCX-100 is smaller than the YT-1300? Really??? My impression from watching Rebels was that the Ghost seemed much larger than the Millennium Falcon on the inside and the outside. According to Wookiepedia, the VCX-100 is 43.9 meters long and 34.2 meters wide. The YT-1300 is only 34.75 meters long, so it is not only shorter than the VCX, but it is barely longer than the larger ship is wide.
That Hammerhead attack in R1 was the most Ridiculous, most absurd, most eyerolling plot armor l have Ever seen in All of star wars. A momentary (and total) departure from reality in an otherwise great movie.
How do toilets work in starwars? Just remembered the line "you think an average stormtrooper knows howw to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms" Wondered if canon or legends ever covered that 🤔 Also wonder if thats why Anakin didn't like sand. Could be that Tatooine bathroom customs are kitty style.
While not popular with the Galaxy at large because of the legacy, CIS ships would have been perfect for the Rebellion - as they had small crew requirements due to automation. A Lucrahulk could have made a ideal Mobile Command Base and Headquarters, moving from abandoned system to abandoned system, relocating ever so often so the Empire couldn't track them down … and jumping if the Empire did happen to stumble on them. It could fit as much as Yarvin or Echo Base. Just give it a few dedicated Scout and picket ships to keep patrolling for Imperials and to check for new locations. And the smaller CIS capital ships are also ideal, a lot of them are fast heavy hitters that would suit hit and run tactics. It's probably a good idea to modify their appearance somewhat; break up the lines with armour and modifications, and give them a new colour scheme … the old GAR lively seems appropriate. There is a certain irony in mixing and matching Clone Wars ships from both sides into a fleet.
