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How New York City became "Gotham"  

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Vox producer Coleman Lowndes takes us through the etymology that made New York City Gotham before DC Comics ever did.
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@joermnyc
@joermnyc Год назад
I am vengeance, I am the night, I am GOATMAN! 🐐
@tinaloye2014
@tinaloye2014 Год назад
I would watch 😆
@KimdraStBiryukova
@KimdraStBiryukova Год назад
I think he owned a bridge or something at one point. Lost it in a duel to two American schmucks, though.
@PupiGarcia
@PupiGarcia Год назад
😂😂😂
@sadiaidrees969
@sadiaidrees969 Год назад
Literally an episode of the Gotham tv show is called the Spirit of the Goat
@kingkazma3246
@kingkazma3246 7 месяцев назад
The spirit animal that City Boy summons better be a goat when he goes to Gotham! 😂
@Haameme
@Haameme Год назад
GOAT CITY 🐐
@houseplant1016
@houseplant1016 Год назад
Nah, that would be Rome, the eternal city.
@chuunyeong
@chuunyeong Год назад
any city Messi is in immediately becomes goated 🐐🐐
@KurtIsFat
@KurtIsFat Год назад
​@@chuunyeong who asked
@liudmilabanks4359
@liudmilabanks4359 Год назад
Still today old York
@chuunyeong
@chuunyeong Год назад
@@KurtIsFat I did, cope
@rashad123us
@rashad123us Год назад
*NYC, GOATED. Ya herrrd?*
@sirfizz6518
@sirfizz6518 Год назад
Word to ya shepaad
@thelumberjack8838
@thelumberjack8838 Год назад
Yurrrrrr
@SamMan1776
@SamMan1776 2 месяца назад
Skrrrr
@liamastill6733
@liamastill6733 Год назад
Huh, always thought Gotham only referred to the gothic architecture of Gotham city
@bladerunnierjohn4866
@bladerunnierjohn4866 Год назад
Same
Год назад
In Spanish it was translated to Ciudad Gótica
@Fanciest-Hobo
@Fanciest-Hobo Год назад
I'm fairly certain that IS the in universe reason
@theragingrodent__
@theragingrodent__ Год назад
​@@Fanciest-Hobo I think I read somewhere that it was actually just named after a watch company one of the writers saw an ad for. Just a name that sounded good.
@Ivanhoe52
@Ivanhoe52 4 месяца назад
Same here.
@alexsamuels11312
@alexsamuels11312 Год назад
The New York Giants (Baseball) were originally the Gothams in 1883 and 1884
@RyokoAsakuraLastFan
@RyokoAsakuraLastFan Год назад
For Batman I always pictured Gotham as Chicago and Detroit due to High Crime Rates, Heavy Mod Ties, Corrupt Police, Building Architecture and the amount of old money
@methos-ey9nf
@methos-ey9nf Год назад
Depending on the year this fits NYC as well.
@shadowpat810
@shadowpat810 Год назад
This fits NYC as well wdym
@enraikow6109
@enraikow6109 Год назад
"heavy mod ties" Ah yes, truly, the brutal and wretched society of internet moderators were a people of unbounded veracity intertwined with the innocent lives of the good people of chicago and detroit. Bless those who are stamped under their heel and curse those who are willing to ignore it and even partake in their criminals acts.
@SolracCAP
@SolracCAP Год назад
New York used to be like that for a long time.
@sixe9095
@sixe9095 Год назад
​@@SolracCAPit still is a very corrupt place
@MrDavidMcNick
@MrDavidMcNick Год назад
Salmagundi sounds like Solomon Grundy, which is a DC character that lives in Gotham 🤔
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 Год назад
interesting how Gotham went from an insult originally to a symbol of praise and prestige later
@aerystargaryenii2565
@aerystargaryenii2565 Год назад
lol right. It's ironic
@cannonfodder15
@cannonfodder15 Год назад
For a long time I thought Gotham was based off Chicago
@ScootyPuffSr7
@ScootyPuffSr7 Год назад
They used Chicago in the first Christopher Nolan Batman movie.
@chickeNblood
@chickeNblood Год назад
Same
@nericdominguez6723
@nericdominguez6723 Год назад
@@ScootyPuffSr7 and in the The Dark Knight....and in Robert Pattinson batman...vox u ho's.
@rzpogi
@rzpogi Год назад
Batman's Gotham City is often described as a mix of New York City, Chicago, and Atlanta.
@chickeNblood
@chickeNblood Год назад
Lol atl
@ElGreco1541
@ElGreco1541 Год назад
Gotham (n.): "New York City," first used by Washington Irving in "Salmagundi" (1807), based on "Merrie Tales of the Mad Men of Gotham" (1460), a collection of legendary stories of English villagers alternately wise and foolish. There is a village of this name in Nottinghamshire, originally Gatham (1086), in Old English, "Enclosure (literally 'homestead') where goats are kept." It is unknown if this was the place intended in the stories. Related: Gothamite.
@chickeNblood
@chickeNblood Год назад
Oh well it's Gotham aka New York City now and forever
@jordanp5469
@jordanp5469 Год назад
Thanks, i don't get why they didn't mention this in the video
@GentlemanLife-Beyotch
@GentlemanLife-Beyotch Год назад
Make sense for New York, especially thse days.
@calico9046
@calico9046 Год назад
Gotham translates back to the old English word: Gottam which means *HA GOT EM*
@jiminboo
@jiminboo Год назад
What about “The Big Apple” nickname?
@lucinae8510
@lucinae8510 Год назад
There were so many horses needed to draw carriages, that the city ship[ed in thousands of tonnes of apples often to feed them all. Therefore newspapers called the city "The Big Apple".
@papa_squat
@papa_squat Год назад
​​@@lucinae8510 Did you just make that up? The first instance of "the big apple" being popularized was due to horse racing, which was very lucrative in NY. Competitors and gamblers would come for "the big apple", as in, the large and appealing prize winnings. Then the phrase was brought back in the 1970's during a tourism advertising campaign.
@monicaenns9967
@monicaenns9967 Год назад
Oooh! That explains that short poem. 3 wise men from Gotham went sailing in a bowl. If the bowl had been stronger, my story would be longer.
@lululestat
@lululestat Год назад
The name “Gotham” is very fitting for NY state
@ninjasonmylawn25
@ninjasonmylawn25 Год назад
In the comics, Gotham City and New York City are two different places and both exist with Gotham City being located in New Jersey.
@the_pigeon.
@the_pigeon. Год назад
I thought I remembered that as well, thanks!
@callmeperch
@callmeperch Год назад
Oh cool. I thought Metropolis was supposed to be New York? Where is that at?
@Louis-si4ci
@Louis-si4ci Год назад
I've never ever heard of NY being known as Gotham either
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX Год назад
​@@Louis-si4ci it is always has been. The first batman comic was in nyc do some research
@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy
@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy Год назад
Any true Batman fan would know that DC's Gotham is located in New Jersey
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX Год назад
The first batman comic is in nyc stop the cap
@nemesis9514
@nemesis9514 11 месяцев назад
​@@METALFACEDOOMXXXXbro how is it cap when every source proves he's right😂 Look up where is gotham city for me
@anothermike867
@anothermike867 Год назад
So when Marshall won the election for Judge and he referred to Gotham in his acceptance speech, he wasn't wrong 🤣
@clickthing
@clickthing Год назад
It's actually named for a specific town in Nottinghamshire, UK called Gotham (pronounced Goat-h'm), Tom Scott did a video on this
@jbloun911
@jbloun911 10 месяцев назад
Its based on Washington Irving's novel about NYC. NYC has been nicknamed Gotham for over 150 years and the Batman comic is based on NJ & lower Manhattan with its Gothic/Art Deco skyscrapers.
@lordsiomai
@lordsiomai Год назад
I've always thought Gotham similar to New York because of the architecture, crime and stuff
@mfinland2767
@mfinland2767 Год назад
Literally my reaction in Dark Knight Rises: "THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THE MVP! THEY'RE THE GOAT! THE GOATTT!!!"
@TheFuryKnight
@TheFuryKnight Год назад
Now i can't stop laughing if anyone can say they like new york 🤣🤣🤣
@therealdarklizzy
@therealdarklizzy Год назад
Fun Fact: The name of Arkham Asylum comes from the place name of Arkham from a work by Lovecraft.
@SquattingxBear
@SquattingxBear Год назад
Learned something new today!
@zeahlessley6108
@zeahlessley6108 Год назад
Kinda awkward that Gotham City is typically depicted by DC Comics as being in New Jersey rather than New York. Apparently one of the co-creators of Batman said they flipped through a NY phone book and chose "Gotham" from a business in NYC because they wanted anybody in any city to identify with it 🙄
@Michael-js6gp
@Michael-js6gp Год назад
Source?
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX Год назад
The first batman comic was in nyc
@tily5939
@tily5939 Год назад
I'm a NYC native and I used to have a REALLY old substitute teacher in high school (back in the 90s) who used to tell us how a lot of the land wasn't developed and there were goats and animals running around where the buildings were now. I guess he was right lol
@srd1997
@srd1997 Год назад
Woah, I had no idea!
@DrOtto-sx7cp
@DrOtto-sx7cp Год назад
It's always been "Nieuw Amsterdam" to me. 😆
@DurvalLacerda
@DurvalLacerda Год назад
But the name Gotham from the comics doesn't come from a play on the word "Goth"?
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Год назад
If that was intentional, it's an apt coincidence
@shymalipaik4001
@shymalipaik4001 Год назад
Greatest of all time city
@hahano9586
@hahano9586 Год назад
Which is funny because I'm pretty sure Gotham City is in New Jersey in the comics. Not 100% sure but I remember hearing that somewhere.
@anthonyfrias5533
@anthonyfrias5533 Год назад
In harley quinn, that would make a great joke, and I hope they do that.
@Tom-pc7lb
@Tom-pc7lb Год назад
This is absolutely the style of Shelly Cooper’s satire/ passive aggressive how she describes people and whole communities.
@Nunya_Bidness_53
@Nunya_Bidness_53 Год назад
And here I thought it had to do with a prevalence if Gothic architecture 😶
@middleclassic
@middleclassic Год назад
I have to admit I had no idea that Manhattan was Gotham city. To me Gotham always represented ANY large city in the USA that had skyscrapers surrounded by a large metropolis.
@DeDarkVega
@DeDarkVega Год назад
In Belgium we have a small city near Sint - Truiden called Ghotem
@uzazi2043
@uzazi2043 Год назад
I mean the British town of Gotham is pronounced "goat em" so I believe it
@joaovs580
@joaovs580 Год назад
Spanish pigs eats acorns so their meat get black, thats the famous Goth Ham
@Gunslinger65
@Gunslinger65 Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@renatacantore3684
@renatacantore3684 Год назад
Thank you so much for your wonderful explanation of this name.🏆🌹👏🏽👏🏽
@Alusnovalotus
@Alusnovalotus Год назад
A name well earned.
@darkknight7545
@darkknight7545 Год назад
So what is Metropolis if NYC is Gotham?
@oldtechnobodycaresabout
@oldtechnobodycaresabout Год назад
Wait I thought it was named after the English town of Gotham?
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Год назад
It is, abstractly. The use of "Gotham" in British culture is equivalent to how Americans might refer to "Hicksville" ... Irving and his buddies were being sarcastic
@ginandromeda1618
@ginandromeda1618 Год назад
​​@@secularmonk5176 Wait, I'm not a native speaker, could you elaborate more? What's Hicksville? And why you think it was sarcasm? /gen
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Год назад
@@ginandromeda1618 Are you familiar with the idea of a "hillbilly"? ... a person who lives off the land, with little income, in a mountain region? A "hick" is like a "hillbilly". So "Hicksville" is a town full of people who aren't very educated or cultured. Now, New York City is NOT that, but Washington Irving was trying to insult other intellectuals by accusing them of acting like that, and sarcastically equating NYC with "Gotham" ... the traditional term for "Hicksville" (remember, in the early 19th Century, "cultured" people in US cities would still use lots of British phrases) Irving was very influential in American literature, so the term caught on as an ironic nickname for NYC. Eventually, American culture drifted far enough away from British culture that the original connection was lost, and "Gotham" was just thought of as a "nickname" for NYC, without many people knowing where it came from. Phew. I basically just repeated the information in the Short. Hope that helped.
@worldgroundnews4539
@worldgroundnews4539 Год назад
Facts like this makes the world go around!
@XenoRaptor-98765
@XenoRaptor-98765 Год назад
Actually that just explains a lot😮
@lucbloom
@lucbloom Год назад
Now we need a Goat Simulator Batman tie-in…
@davidrincon5299
@davidrincon5299 Год назад
The definition definitely makes sense
@monkeypie8701
@monkeypie8701 Год назад
It still is the home of the goats
@luisflores6780
@luisflores6780 Год назад
All makes sense now.
@siege2928
@siege2928 Год назад
Wait till someone tells him.that gotham isnt NYC... It's in Jersey 🤣
@assortedlunatics4381
@assortedlunatics4381 Год назад
Home of the goat 🐐
@lizziesangi1602
@lizziesangi1602 Год назад
They all kept their mistresses on the Jersey side - right across the river.
@AK47-666
@AK47-666 Год назад
Gotta get em all.
@latif87
@latif87 Год назад
Thank u from Germany! That was very interesting 🙏
@RiamCute
@RiamCute Год назад
Thank you for this info
@geeteshm4858
@geeteshm4858 Год назад
Strong tradition of new york still stays strong.
@ladyelainefairchild3546
@ladyelainefairchild3546 Год назад
Um Gotham is still meant as an insult that’s the whole point....
@sybilmcpherson2240
@sybilmcpherson2240 Год назад
Still fits...the original description of elitest culture...
@jordanp5469
@jordanp5469 Год назад
You missed a huge detail, the name Gotham comes from a specific English town that had a series of famous jokes about it
@BlessedWithLuck
@BlessedWithLuck Год назад
In Staten Island there’s a mechanic shop/scrap yard full of Gotham City Police Cruisers. Not sure if it was for one of the movies or if they just genuinely had them.
@patcomerford5596
@patcomerford5596 Год назад
Most interesting. Thank you.
@juliestrickland7754
@juliestrickland7754 Год назад
Omg!!! That is freaking hilarious!
@Kenny_F91
@Kenny_F91 Год назад
It's funny that Gotham City in the comics in actually in New Jersey.
@Leg0456
@Leg0456 Год назад
Chicago is literally Gotham Bruh
@rashad123us
@rashad123us Год назад
Batman’s Gotham is based off New York, AND Chicago. That’s the only connection Chicago has to Gotham.
@bobbylee_
@bobbylee_ Год назад
Baa Baa Baa’man! 🐐🦇
@nerdlingeeksly5192
@nerdlingeeksly5192 Год назад
Like many things from history, insults soon become adopted as symbols of pride. Case and point the Scrap Iron Flotilla; what's the Scrap Iron Flotilla? Go look it up and learn the fascinating story behind it yourself, there's many videos on it here in RU-vid.
@TurusDJava
@TurusDJava Год назад
Gotham city is also a reference to New York City because it's a new York like city but it's meant to be the city with the highest crime rate and most corruption and it's got Gotham architecture the worst of the worst are in Gotham you don't have to feel bad for the criminals of Gotham
@MrMentalpuppy
@MrMentalpuppy Год назад
Bring back old name still true.
@ryanjones3043
@ryanjones3043 Год назад
Wow something good from Vox
@Laalaalaa10
@Laalaalaa10 Год назад
BRING BACK GOAT CITY!
@infernus..
@infernus.. Год назад
Can you ban the Arabic bot that wrote two comments?
@123kevinms
@123kevinms Год назад
There’s only one goat in Gotham 😎
@jackstorme3575
@jackstorme3575 Год назад
And not to forget most famous for Batman comics
@sorrel8003222
@sorrel8003222 Год назад
The Batman Gotham is supposed to be based in the state of Jersey not New York.
@DEATHBYJOKES01
@DEATHBYJOKES01 Год назад
Chicago be waiting over here
@officiallyawesome8585
@officiallyawesome8585 Год назад
Whoa, so interesting!
@droid2645
@droid2645 Год назад
Well we should rename Washington too.Gotham D.C.
@true_perplexeus
@true_perplexeus Год назад
Geissheim!
@elianaslivia4405
@elianaslivia4405 Год назад
Melbourne was once known as Batmania
@lunarmodule6419
@lunarmodule6419 Год назад
Fun! Thx
@suhainsomasiri4429
@suhainsomasiri4429 Год назад
I thought Metropolis was Newyork and Gotham was Chicago, Newark or Jersey city
@sussetanya
@sussetanya Год назад
Basically batman and spiderman living in the same city well strange
@reddcube
@reddcube Год назад
That explains the smell
@zidaryn
@zidaryn Год назад
Huh!? Didn't know Gotham was literally New York. I thought Gotham was just inspired by it.
@cjwms7279
@cjwms7279 3 месяца назад
There's a difference between Gotham, NJ and Gotham, NY. What's next, Gotham, NH?
@newgotham8105
@newgotham8105 Год назад
It's supposedly in New Jersey.
@adambahe9309
@adambahe9309 Год назад
I don’t care what anyone says, Chicago is Gotham. See: The Dark Knight. I rest my case.
@TheGuinever
@TheGuinever Год назад
The similarities between Goat Home and 2023 DC are disturbing.
@Scipio12232
@Scipio12232 Год назад
Greatest of all time - G.O.A.T. City 😀
@andandopalteatroconlospies8139
In Spanish it's actually pronounced like "Gottam" hehe
@comosediceesoo681
@comosediceesoo681 Год назад
I feel like Rhode Island is more like Gotham
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo Год назад
Wow... 🐐
@Willchannel90
@Willchannel90 Год назад
This reveals when Mafias got special plans for Hollywood.
@changowowowoezzy9617
@changowowowoezzy9617 6 месяцев назад
Gothmalk
@CriticalEatsJapan
@CriticalEatsJapan Год назад
What? Next you're gonna tell me Arkham isn't an original name either... ;)
@docop8926
@docop8926 6 месяцев назад
so the name suits the city
@tyjohn4779
@tyjohn4779 Год назад
Is that Donald Glover?
@DigitalSteel
@DigitalSteel Год назад
I thought Gotham was supposed to be in New Jersey
@edgarhack2042
@edgarhack2042 Год назад
Just like Gatwick Airport which is Goat Farm. Oh wait
@lhedralkhawya
@lhedralkhawya Год назад
Got em.
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